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Faith vs. the fear factor

How about choosing science and reality over faith and superstion? That would be more healthy.

Science is always fleeting, changing and evolving. Plus the world is full of junk Science. Just ask the FDA!(I used to work in that industry, so I have first hand knowledge of this) Science can't explain most of the things we observe on this earth or the universe. Even Charles Darwin said he didn't believe his theory of evolution could have ever created the human eye with all it's contrivances. Sir Issac Newton said that the magifnicent engineering of the human thumb convinced him there is a God. Albert Einstien used to debate the existance of intelligent design of the universe by asking his atheists collegues, "Who wound the watch", refering to the universe as a well running watch. So much for Science! Intelligent design works much better for me and it is more reliable explanation of everything!

True religion=true science. The problem is there are tons of false religions and false "scientific" theories. Examples are ubiqitous! In the meantime, we should search and test both holding onto truth wherever we find it, always knowing that God has not revealed everything yet and science has not discovered everything yet. That is why we need faith, which is defined as the evidences of things not seen, but that are true! I don't know about your religion, but mine does not require me to believe things that are not true, but does require me to accept the evidences of truth as my basis for faith! I like my religion a great deal because of that!

...but true knowledge is more beautiful than any religion.

What makes you think science is more healthy than faith? Ancedotal as it may be, my own experience has been that atheists seem more pessimistic and gloomy than the believers I know. Some studies have shown that regular churchgoers are happier than those who don't attend church. A simple Google search I just did found several summaries of such studies.

I guess I see science and faith as a false dicotomy anyway. I'm a lifelong science enthusiast and a person of faith. I don't see any contradiction.

Meke

Only idiots divide everything into two categories like that.

Simple minded fools.

More dishonest quote mining about Darwin and the eye. What Darwin said was this:

"To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree.."

But he then continued in the same sentence: "..Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real."

If you want to comment on Evolution, at least be honest about it. It is sad how creationists can't make their argument without false witnessing.

"False witnessing"! That is what it ALL is!

Good call!

Why is humans sprang from apes are there still apes? Very illogical isn't it?

My Typo..meant to say if not is.

Re: Steen, how does anything you quoted change what Darwin said in his previous sentence?

Great topic except that some of you cannot debate this without calling other who disagree with you "fools: idoits", etc. I wonder why that is? No one called any of you names. At the risk of being called a name, here is some "logic" for you. Lets assume the athiests are right. Life has no meaning,our existance is an accident; we live, we die, the lights go out and that's it, forever. What has my religion and my faith cheated me out of? I lived, I was happy (even falsely), I enjoyed my life. I win! On the other hand lets say the believers are correct. We are born, we live our lives, make choices and decision all of which have eternal consequences and profound meaning. The lights do not go out and we find ourselves face to face before God to be judged of our actions and faith and receive an eternal reward. What have atheists lost? You see, believers are in a win, win situation in either case. I choose faith! Call me stupid, idiot, whatever..you get to choose your course, just like I do. See you there!