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Anonymous | 5:03 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

We will have to wait until election year of 2012 before we have a season like this again. doing this every 4 years is better than having a 10-win season od mediocrity every year. BYU, don't forget to come up with a slogan for us in 2012.

Realist | 5:05 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

Utah fans are brain dead, you will lose eight games next year. You should stop talking all of this hot trash

Ute fan forever | 5:13 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

I watched the last two Ute games with a BYU fan. He was obviously disappointed in the first game but celebrated with me during the Sugar Bowl. I've got to say that if the roles were reversed I wouldn't have been as happy for BYU. Most BYU fans are better "state of Utah" fans than I am. Maybe I do have an inferiority complex.

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To Realist 5:05 | 5:32 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

Precisely what makes you think Utah will lose 8 games next year? Is that just BYU smack, or do you know something the rest of us don't? It would be optimistic to say that we'll go undefeated again, but I see us going 9-3 or 10-2 fairly easily.

Y Fan in Florida | 5:44 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

Iï¿½m a Y fan but glad to see Utah win. And I speak for South Florida in saying weï¿½re happy to see Nick Saban lose.

Didnï¿½t see much Utah coverage this year, so wasn't sure what to expect, but thought Alabama was beatable. These posts claiming Utah couldn't go .500 in the SEC just aren't looking closely. The SECï¿½s clearly a strong conference, and Utah dominated their 2nd best team. There are lots of perennially pathetic schools in the BCS, and every year some big names are also down. Alabamaï¿½s a good team, but these programs arenï¿½t in another world, even with the deck stacked in their favor.

Iï¿½m 100% in favor of Utah hanging a NC banner, but Iï¿½m sure they wouldnï¿½t want to make it a target of ridicule (look at the lightning rod that is BYU ï¿½84). But Iï¿½d love to see them take a stand.

However, the BCS won't go away because of controversy (thereï¿½s one every year). It needs to be seen as *illegitimate*. Hard to argue Purdue should get $millions because of PSU and OSU, while Fresno gets nothing because Boiseï¿½s left out (ranked higher than OSU and with 2 fewer losses).

DMH | 6:14 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

I am a huge Ute fan and I'm married to a huge BYU fan, however, he gave me a Utah Sugar Bowl shirt for Christmas, so I would have it to wear for the big game. I was watching the game when he came home from running an errand and expected him to turn around and walk out again, but he didn't. He sat and watched the game with me and even rooted for the Utes. He was so thrilled that they beat Alabama that I was in total shell shock. If this year's team can make a die hard BYU fan root for them, then the entire state of Utah needs to be behind these guys. They have had a great season and totally deserve a national title. We need to ban the BCS from College football and go to a playoff system. They do it in college basketball and the NFL. Why is it not good enough for college football? It is more fair to the fans and to the players. GO UTES!!!!

Ultimate Ute Fan | 6:49 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

To all you BYU fans talking smack about next years Utes look to the facts. Utah's defense is only getting stronger by adding a 5 star recruit from a tranfer college that all the BCS schools wanted, plus they are getting even more 4 star defensive recruits, on top of that they are getting Krugers little brother that is even better than Paul is. Next we are loosing Brian but we are gaining a 4 star quarterback from Texas as well as a 3 star quarter back from California, remember that Alex Smith was only a 2 star from Cal and Johnson was a 3 star recruit from Texas. This team is going to be a great team next year, mark my words.

GO....UTES

BYU fans--a dose of reality | 8:00 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

Were I a BYU fan, I would refuse to talk about anything but 1984 and 1996, the last time BYU did anything of national interest. BYU -- no BCS games in its history, lost 5 of 7 to Utah and were lucky to win those 2 games, horrible bowl record vs Utah's longest streak in the nation which include 2 BCS bowl wins and 2 undefeated seasons. BYU has not done anything noteworthy since Edwards left. And now, since our coach is not leaving after the BCS victory, we will reap the recruiting rewards. Face it, your team has given you nothing to talk about in the last decade. It is over. You had a nice run beginning a few decades ago, but nothing for years. You are now irrelevant on the national stage, and will be. Utah carries this conference. You just lose big games. BYU makes its season by beating Utah. Utah makes its season by playing in BCS bowls, and winning them. Good luck to you next year, little brother to the south.

Matt Connelly | 8:19 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

Whoa' fella...slow down a bit. Yes, the Utes feat was remarkable. But better than BYU's 1984 national championship? C'mon now. How can a big bowl win ever be as big as a national championship, especially for a school like BYU that annually must struggle to recruit talented players. I was impressed with the Utes' feat. But to say it's bigger than a national championship shows some seriously clouded (biased?) judgment.

Nick | 8:18 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

What the Utes did this year was more impressive than the 84 cougs. and they should be national champs. But the real question is would you rather have an impressive BCS season (or 2?) or a national championship, and i'll take a national championship anyday.

Get Real Matt | 8:32 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

The voters gave the national title to BYU that year, and it is contorversal to this day, for all the same reasons Utah likely will not win it this year. Who knows which team would win head to head, but to say the accomplishment this year is lesser shows clouded (biased?) judgment. Alabama was better than any team BYU played in 1984. BYU played the teams on their schedule, just like Utah did this year, so one cannot blame either team for that. But the fact is, the Utes this year were more impressive.

historic season | 8:39 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

yeah. It is historic.

Utah, the only team to go undefeated twice in the BCS era and never win a national championship.

national championships in football:

BYU 1
Utah 0

This record will stand forever.

No Mtn West team will ever EVER win the national championship.

Get used to it.

BYU will always have more football national championships than the U. Never gonna change.

1984 is all you have | 8:46 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

as long as BYU fans enjoy watching black and white replays of the 1984 team instead of recruiting and winning football games that mean something, you win, BYU is better. Enjoy your average football team for years to come, as you turn off the television after another humiliating loss and insert a beta tape of the 1984 season. That is your argument!!! If you say "1984" three times and click your heels together BYU will be a better team. Reality check here. Go to the kids table and come back when your team wins a game of national importance, this century.

Ute in Wisconsin | 9:12 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

Bust 'em Bama ! Having lived in Alabama back in '89, and being Utah born and bred and a Utah grad I am once again impressed by the folks down South. Y'all are class and the Tide is a good team that was caught maybe a little off guard by one tough set of Utah Utes. May the Utes rule the West and 'Bama can rule the South !

Seattleview | 9:20 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

This argument about BYU national championship in 1984 is silly. That was a lifetime ago. Yes, they have a great past but they need a great present and future. They wont get it doing things as they currently doing them.

Utah gets excellent LDS athletes at positions they match up well for. For the others, they get quality players that make this a complete team. It is interesting to note that 3 of BYUs best quarterbacks were nonmembers (McMahon, Sarkiesian, Detmer). Apparantly they wouldnt make the cut under todays guidelines.

Utah clearly has the stronger football program. Even still, remember that they got the chance to prove it by the slimest of margins (a missed field goal by the other team). Otherwise, all they would have been able to do is go to the Las Vegas bowl as BYU did two years in a row.

BYU fans should give due credit to Utah coaches and players. They are serious about football and have done it right.

If not for the certain percentage of fanatical anti Mormon fans, they would be even more popular. Utah loves winners.

Alternate | 10:29 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

This is one of those caught up in the frenzy stories. The 2004 team was a much better team. This team was 2 missed field goals and two poorly thrown passes to open receivers who the Utes did not defend from losing to TCU. OSU lost because of poor decision making by their coach, not the Utes defense. This stuff didn't happen in 2004.

Final comment, Utah all but one the game on the questionable face mask call that gave the ball back to Florida and cost Alabama the game. The Tide was a shell of a team compared to the team that played Florida.

It was a great year Mike, but good grief, you should be better than frenzy writing.

BTW, to all you 1984 haters, the AP and UPI and several other trophies are still on display in Provo. Bad mouth all you want, but stop by and see the trophies sometime. If you go back and research the final polls in 84, only Hugh Hefner's mag didn't vote BYU #1.

Perhaps the pro draft count is more impressive, like 2004 several players started long term NFL careers the following season.

re: Amnesia | 10:34 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree! Last year, I may have agreed with you, but I'm not drinking the "SEC is the greatest Cool-aid this year"! The two best teams in the SEC are Florida and Alabama. We know how well Alabama did against Utah, and I expect Florida would have the same problems. Florida has beaten two currently ranked teams this year (Georgia and Alabama), and they have a loss to Mississippi. Alabama had beaten two currently ranked teams as well (Georgia and Mississippi), and has lost to Florida and now Utah. People point to Utah's close calls, but Alabama had a close call with 7-6 Kentucky. I would also like to point out that Wy beat Tennessee at Tennessee! LSU almost lost to Troy. They were down 30-0! Alabama, had its toughest game against LSU with an OT win. Vandy lost to Tennessee, and is 7-6. SC lost to LSU, and is 7-6. Georgia and Mississippi are the two best schools after Florida and Alabama. Georgia almost lost to SC, and did lose to Georgia Tech. Mississippi lost to Wake Forest, Vandy and SC. The rest of the SEC wasn't bowl eligible. Utah still would've went undefeated!

'04 defense vs '08 defense | 10:51 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

I agree that the '08 D was better than the '04, but stating points allowed in games vs CSU, UNLV, etc is silly. The starters rarely played past the first series of halftime. The one game they played all the way through? Pitt in Fiesta and they only allowed 7 points and garnered 9 sacks. The CSU game was 42-3 at half. 28 of the 31 CSU points were scored in the second half with starters out of the game. That was a great Defense! This year's was phenomenal.

Re: Utes #1 | 11:04 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

All your points are true, except the point about the blocked Washington PAT...that would've only tied the game. But point well taken. These what ifs are stupid. The best BYU team in the last decade was the '06 variety...and they probably should've beaten Arizona and Boston College, but they didn't. You could woulda shoulda your way to a 9-4 Ute season this year. But guess what, it goes down as 13-0 in the record book, a top 5 ranking (which is a travesty that 4-5 is about all they'll get), and a special season overall with dramatic and gutsy wins along with a dominating defense. This team grew up before our eyes. Are they better than the '04 team? Hard to say...the '04 team played at its peak and remained there from kickoff against A&M until the final play against Pitt. This Utah team got better throughout the season and found their identity along the way. Would the '04 team has barely squeaked by the '08 Michigan team? Not likely, but they also may not have plastered this Alabama team any better than the '08 variety. Anyone doubting the greatness of this team is sadly misguided.

1984 | 11:14 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

So under your logic, the Chiefs are a better team than the Chargers becaues the Chiefs won a superbowl in 1970 and the Chargers have not. Idiotic. Again, if this is your only argument, it prove my point. Your team has done nothing noteworthy for over a decade. It is over. Deal with it.

Deseret Enquirer News | 11:50 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009

Like Kyle said, you can't compare unless they play, but I guess Sorensen knows way more than Kyle, or any of us who have been watching this State play football 60+ years.

If I had to compare Tiger Woods to Chi Chi Rodriguez, I would look at how many championships each has won, not that once he had a real good tournament. Bill Russell loved to show off his rings, not pictures of one night they beat the Lakers. It's about the ring, the trophy, the banner that hangs in the gym.

Utah beat Bama 31-17 = 14 points
AFA 30-23 = 7 points
Weber State 37 - 21 = 16 points
OSU 13-10 = 3 points
New Mexico 13-10 = 3 points. If that's the case, AFA, OSU, NM are all significantly better than Alabama.

Utah beat Weber by 2 more points, AFA by 7 less, OSU and New Mexico by 11 fewer points than the BAMA GAME.

Then you write a story that opens "We just witnessed the greatest season in the state's football history, yes, even better than the 2004 12-0 Utah season or the 13-0 BYU season of 1984."

The National Enquirer needs people like you...

Imagine | 12:06 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

Imagine 2004's offense and 2008's defense on the same team.

Urban said the 2004 team would have beaten anybody.

But I'm certain a combination of the 2004 and 2008 Utah teams could have throttled this year's Detroit Lions team.

Utah Fan | 12:46 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

I have to admit that in years past I have been more of an anti-BYU fan than I have been a Utah fan. However, since about 1994 my view began changing and I grew up. I would recommend the same for many of the Utah/BYU fans here.

I am glad BYU has the 1984 championship. Good for them.

I am glad Utah has the 2004 Fiesta Bowl Championship . . . just would like to have played a really good team.

I am REALLY glad Utah has the 2009 Sugar Bowl Championship by playing very strong against a formidable opponent (Alabama).

Next year, I will be cheering for every MWC team, especially BYU and Utah. If BYU and Utah both do well, then the November game is so much more fun to watch. There may be a very good rivalry building between Utah/BYU/TCU as well, which could be a lot of fun.

I am too old and life if too short to spend your time hating teams and fans. As many have adequately demonstrated here, BYU and Utah both have the few ignorant fans, but for the most part, we all enjoy some good-natured ribbing and a great rivalry.

Steve Bailey | 5:28 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

The only reason BYU won the national championship in 1984, under a different voting system than today,is they had won 25 games in a row. I feel Utah deserves the national title this year. If Utah can win twelve games next year, what then BCS?

BIG BAMA FAN | 7:02 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

Just wanted to tell all the Ute fans ya'll show a lot of class, and Utah played a GREAT GAME. I was really impressed with the Utes. Hope to see u guys in another bowl game or a home and home game. Good luck, you deserve the AP NC. I will be watching this site and looking next season to see how the Utes are doing.

Jim | 8:46 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

BYU's 1984 season was a, if not THE, major impetus for the implementation of the BCS system. Think about it: the pollsters got burned. They were FORCED to hand a national championship to an undefeated team who played no one during the regular season, and squeaked by a barely-over-0.500 Michigam team in the Holiday Bowl.

This Utes team would kill Texas and everyone in the country knows it. And I'd put big money on them to beat FL or OK. The AP voters should stick it to the BCS and award the best team in the nation -- the UTES -- with a most-deserved national championship.

Strained Logic | 8:46 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

Some Cougars (gratefully a rare minority) continue to taunt the Utes by saying "neener neener neener, we won a national championship, and you never will."

Besides focusing on the distant past, this is the equivalent of saying "neener, neener neener, I have brown eyes, and you never will." Taunting someone for something beyond their control is the epitome of childish logic. The Utes have molded themselves into a chiseled, well-conditioned athlete, who just set a world record in a demanding race - excelling in everything under their control - but the "you'll never have brown eyes" taunt continues.

Such an accusation says much more about the intellectual capacity, maturity and character of the accuser than the ability, status or talent of the accused.

re: Funny 4:41 p.m. Jan 5 | 8:51 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

"I think it is funny that the U has the biggest win in the history of their program and all they want to do is bash BYU. Shows that we are in your head at all times!"

The article compared '08 Utah to all other football teams in the state, including '84 BYU, as did the commentors. By saying '08 Utah was best, this implies any BYU team was not as good, but this is hardly BYU bashing. Thanks to Mr. Sorenson for an interesting read that spawned extensive discussion.

Born in Utah | 9:52 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

I cheer for BYU and Utah and enjoy their annual battle in football. I don't care much who wins when the two meet so here is my unbiased opinion. Most BYU fans are too emotional and tie in their religion at every opportunity when winning, thus presenting a target. When they loose they become so pouty and defensive that people can't fight the urge to hit that vulnerable target. Either remove that target or develop a thick enough skin that those digs won't hurt. Most Utah fans enjoy their victories but take greater satisfaction at hitting the fore-mentioned target any chance they get. Quit being so mean and realize that we really are family from the same state. What goes around comes around.

Anonymous | 10:09 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

to: Anonymous | 5:03 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
"doing this every 4 years is better than having a 10-win season od mediocrity every year."

10 win seasons are mediocre???

You don't follow college football, do you?

I Wish the Cougars Luck... | 10:36 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

...But this loyal Ute will no longer measure the football teams' success against BYU's success (real or imagined). In the same way, I have never measured the Utah basketball team's success against BYU's basketball success.

With 2 BCS victories in five years Utah has achieved a higher plane now. (Don't believe it? If you were a high school football player in the last five years, you had a better chance to go to and win a BCS game at Utah, than Penn State or Alabama or about 10 other 'powerhouse' teams.)

Maybe BYU will eventually make to a BCS game, maybe they won't. Maybe they'll finally win more than 2 bowl games in row maybe they won't. Maybe they'll manage to actually beat a ranked team for the first time in 10 years, maybe they won't. Whatever happens with BYU, I don't care.

BYU's a rival, no doubt about it. But with this post I'm officially past thinking about the BYU football team except in the third week in November.

Good luck, Cougars. Especially with the firesides.

Enter Name | 10:43 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

To:
"I Wish the Cougars Luck... | 10:36 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009
...But this loyal Ute will no longer measure the football teams' success against BYU's success (real or imagined)."

Then why do you continue to still compare Utah against BYU?

Are old habits that hard to break?

RE: it's still '84 | 10:53 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009

are you serious?? people will be talking about this one for a long time to come. remember boise state? people still remember them as the bcs busting darling and they'll do the same for this team. and the '84 team is not held in the same regard as Michigan, USC, Nebraska, and so on. they were and are a joke mostly responsible for our current bcs system and are still laughed at today by everyone but byu fans. yeah u guys sure are cool for beating 6-5 michigan woo hoo! utah would be national champions under that same system this year but they beat much better teams to do get there and finished with pride, toughness, teamwork and attitude. i'd put this team up against anyone including florida or Oklahoma. in the words of jim mora can somebody say PLAYOFFS?? or at least plus one?

re:RE: it's still '84 | 10:53 | 12:38 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

"yeah u guys sure are cool for beating 6-5 michigan woo hoo!"

yeah u guys are sure pretty cool for beating a 4-6 New Mexico team 13-10, that BYU beat 21-3. woo hoo! (You bring history, I bring this season).

Why the need to fight so hard to compare against BYU? This Utah Team had a GREAT Bowl Game, but all season long were inconsistent, mediocre at times.

They do not deserve a NC, something BYU has.

Inconsistent & mediocre | 2:04 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

To quote the great Tom Lasorda, it's not how, it's how many. I'll take an inconsistent and mediocre 13-0 over a more consistent 10-3 any day of the week!

Yes, we barely beat TCU, but hey, we beat them and BYU didn't (and it wasn't even close). So if that makes you Coug fans feel better to denigrate the quality of our 13 wins, have at it. But we still won more games than you, and we won the big games to boot, and that's something at which Bronco has been "inconsistent, mediocre at times" as well.

re: Inconsistent & mediocre | 3:14 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

Utah beat Bama 31-17 = 14 points
AFA 30-23 = 7 points
Weber State 37 - 21 = 16 points
OSU 13-10 = 3 points
New Mexico 13-10 = 3 points.

BYU beat AFA 38-24 = 14 points
UNM 21-3 = 18 points

BYU has gone 11-2, 11-2, 12-3.

What has Utah done? Oh, thats right, they have been "Inconsistent & mediocre" the past 2 years. I guess it's like Tommy Lasorda said -- "it's not how, it's how many."

Oh, and great game in the Sugar Bowl.

I tend to believe that the Utes went in with so much National lack of respect becase the past two years have been so "Inconsistent & mediocre". and even in many of the games you won this year, Utah was so "Inconsistent & mediocre"...

But once again, great Sugar Bowl.

Ute Troll | 3:17 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

Hey, Ute, not so convincing...

"BIG BAMA FAN | 7:02 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009
Just wanted to tell all the Ute fans ya'll show a lot of class, and Utah played a GREAT GAME. I was really impressed with the Utes. Hope to see u guys in another bowl game or a home and home game. Good luck, you deserve the AP NC. I will be watching this site and looking next season to see how the Utes are doing."

Yep, I sure the guy from Bama was was so impressed with "u" guys. I sure he really cares if Utah wins the AP NC.

Jarid in Cedar | 3:34 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

I would like to thank BamaGunny for the excellent comments and congratulations to his team for an excellent season. Good for Bama to be back in the national scene. At the game I had a good time with many of the Bama fans, classy group. I would love to see a home-home with them in the future.

HAHA Utes? | 4:26 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

Anyone who thinks the utes will be a better team than BYU next year has to be crazy. BYU has thery're 3 star offensive players coming back as well as a full seasoned coaching staff. Utah will lose most of their starters nest year and have already lost their offensive and deffensive coordinators.

So what if Utah went 13-0? they don't deserve a national chamionship or even a share of it. They beat on teams like wyoming colorado UNLV Weber state Utah State and Michigan. They barely pulled out wins against ranked opponents oregon state and TCU. Alabama and BYU were good wins. Deffinatly not the BEST team in the NATION, something that is a requirement for a national championship. (something BYU has)

To: re: Inc & Med. @ 3:14 | 5:00 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

You're right, BYU beat Wyoming and New Mexico by a larger margin than the U did. Woop-de-freakin-do!! We beat USU, SDSU and Colo St by more than you, and we beat our PAC-10 (OSU) team by 3, while you only beat yours (UW) by 1. Oh yeah, and don't forget about that little discrepancy with TCU, not to mention the head to head results of 11/22/08.

Unfortunately, you're missing my point. My point was, regardless of the comparative margins of victory and the white-knuckle 4th quarters we endured, at the end of the day, THE U STILL FINISHED 13-0!! We've done it twice in the last 5 years, and won both BCS games we've been invited to!

Exactly what has BYU gotten by going a consistent 11-2, 11-2 and 10-3? Consecutive trips to Vegas - way to go. The rest of the MWC thanks BYU for their contributions to their football programs. What's that, the Vegas Bowl doesn't generate any payouts for the other teams? Oops - my bad!

To HAHA Utes? | 5:14 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

Your facts are wrong about # of starters. We return 4 of 5 on the O-line, plus Asiata and Joppru (TE). On D, we return 9 of 11. 15 out of 22 returning does not equate to losing "most of their starters."

If I were BYU, I'd be less concerned about how many offensive starters return than how many defensive starters are back. I'm not sure I'd want any of those guys back, other than Jorgensen and Nixon maybe. Too bad Nixon's a senior.

Utah may not be the "best" team in the nation, but we ARE the only UNDEFEATED team in the nation, and we now have two BCS bowl wins, something BYU does not have, and wishes desperately that they did. 1984 was long enough ago that few Ute fans are jealous of that accomplishment for BYU. Can you BYU fans say the same about our BCS record? Doubt it.

parkite1970 | 6:36 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009

Based on the logic of every Cougar fan still clinging to 1984, THIS year's Ute team is ALSO the national champion of 2008. Because every one of them defensively reminds the critic that their team went UNDEFEATED when NO OTHER TEAM IN THE NATION DID. Those Cougs, like this year's Utes, did not play in a formal "national championship" game, so the only justification is that they weren't beaten while everyone else WAS.

200 years | 8:13 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009

If Florida beats Oklahoma on Thursday, the Gators would have defeated teams ranked (on the day of the game) Nos. 1, 1, 4, 6, 20 and 25. It would take Utah two centuries to match that.

RR | 8:00 a.m. Jan. 8, 2009

Clearly a biased reporter. This team was lucky, that is all there is to it, they weren't great. They were lucky that Michigan had its worst year in forever and had a new coach. They were lucky that OSU just beat #1 USC the week before and didn't have enough steam to finish off the utes. They were lucky TCU missed some field goals. They were lucky UNM made a few mistakes that cost them that game. They were lucky Hall threw so many INT's. People want to bash BYU's 1984 year when they had some lucky breaks, but this Utah team was far luckier, but the 'Bama win was no luck, that was amazing.
The writer forgets BYU's amazing years when they manhandled nearly every team. Sorry, but some of those one loss years were better than this Utah team. You can scroll back to other games, even the Weber game, when Ute fans were grumbling about their team and how bad they looked. Sorry, but I won't allow MANY lucky breaks to convince me this is the best team Utah has ever seen.

re: 200 years | 8:55 a.m. Jan. 8, 2009

. . . and Florida also lost at home to Ole Miss. Consistency matters. Just ask the Washington '84 team.

re: RR | 8:59 a.m. Jan. 8, 2009

Hard work, skill and speed create luck.

funkm22 | 7:51 p.m. Jan. 9, 2009

hey Amnesia, before you speak, get your facts straight! The Utes did not only win one big game. Almost all of the teams they beat went to a bowl game, and the Oregon State team they beat, previously beat USC. Utes also beat BYU,and TCU, all teams in the top 15, so get your facts straight ok.

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