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BYU football: Cougars hit a wall in final 7 games
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Remember yewts, there is no such thing as a "moral" victory. Losing by less than 21 points does not cut it.
You want to carry the banner for the MWC, then carry it. But be prepared to take the bad with the good, as BYU has done for the past 35 years or so.
Somehow I think the kitchen is going to be a little too hot for your liking!
And if Utes don't think it is worth it to see their team why would anyone else???
And if noone will pay to see Utah where do you think the $$$ for that big BCS payoff you've been lusting after comes from????
moochers
pretenders
It's going to feel great skinning your hides.
Just hope it shuts up the whining for a few months.
The first 6 games were again lowly teams --one that could not win even one game all season.
When they play good team (TCU), excellent team (Utah), they choked.
There was no explanation for the embarrasment against lowly Arizona though.
I think what Jan Jorgenson said does make a lot of sense. I think the article is quite correct as well. If you spend the first half of the season playing against poor competition you think you've got it made.
The biggest thing I saw in three games they lost (and the three others they easily could have lost) was a reluctance to adjust to the competition. They played more experienced teams the same way they played against the rebuilding teams and got burned. Now that they have gotten stomped three times I suspect they will get the message and will be more careful in their play selection both offensively and defensively.
There's always a lot of coulda, woulda, shoulda on these boards. But BYU's most dominate game woulda have been a lot different if UCLA would have held onto the those would-be interceptions.
You point to the Miami win 68 years ago. But who in the top 25 have you beat lately?
There's always next year and I think they're going to learn from this year and be really great next year. GO COUGARS.
Don't blame it on the players---the Cougars had as much talent as the other teams.
I hated to see us lose also as a team and as BYU. I have been an avid BYU fan for many years. I know we can win if we have the people, money, and resources.
I think Bronco needs to give up being both the Defensive Coordinator and the Head Football Coach. You can only do one or the other! I think Bronco also works under a lot of constraints imposed upon him by the church Board of Education.
But I think all of us can help Bronco and the BYU Team! We can all help convert great non member football players into the church!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Stay safe.
Sincerely,
A Utah Fan
As for the tough road schedule argument, c'mon, Washington and Utah State hardly are really both bottom 10 institutions this year, and BYU barely beat Washington. How would it have looked for the MTN WEST if BYU had beaten TCU and Utah and yet barely beat a Washington team that came in last in the PAC-10. Speaking of which, How is that Mid PAC-10 Arizona doing these days?
Methinks BYU fan is settling for mediocrity from Bronco by beating up on the bottom tier of the PAC-10 and the WAC instead of demanding meaningful success in bowl games against legitimate opponents.
Its hard to debate someone who knows nothing about sports. So yes you right Bama will roll my Utes just like you thought BYU would roll the Utes.
Win or lose I will see you on a Ute football thread in January... hmmm when was the last time there was a thread about BYU football in January?
GO UTES!!! Lets get rolled by Bama so the Zoobs can sleep at night, we all know this Zoob is having nightmares from 48-24. He might be having wet dreams about Utes getting rolled by Bama since he talks about it so much.
So why do so many Mormons think BYU football represents the Church? Lighten up people its only a game.
I am in total agreement with "Football SHOULD be 5th"! Unlike football factories like USC, Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma and Florida ...BYU prepares these young men to be responsible citizens. After all, there is life after football. Thank you, Coach Mendellhall!
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Notre Dame is a Roman Catholic School so you are basically saying their player's have NO VALUES like LDS players.
Now anyone else take that as offensive or is it just me?
No wonder BYU football is hated so much. Telling others they have less VALUES is just obnoxious and ignorant.
The players learned from the coach that football really wasn't all that important.
Under God, The Church, The University studies, the family the friends,and the fireside chats the night before the games were the most important and somewhere down the line from there, football is important. It's just a game. It's just something fun to enjoy.
This is what the team learned from their coach. They are good learners.
Hopefully next season, we can forgo all the cute sayings like "Totally Committed" "We will never run up the score for anyone-not even the pollsters, and all of those coaches, like the ones in the top ten, are just selfish".
Bronco is a great teacher and the team is a group of great learners.
Perhaps more time should be spent by the coach, coaching football and allow the missionaries and the churches and the University to spend more time teaching the the values of life.
The University, outside of the football team, and the Churches, and the Missionaries don't spend their time teaching the value of football. We should let each department be the master teachers of those things in their own department and stay out of the business of trying to teach outside of our own department.
For you to say your morals need to be higher than our opponents is the height of pride and arrogance. Pride is a primary source of evil in the world, and your statement exhibits toxic levels of it. For you to even raise the specter of 19th century persecution is not only bizarre but disingenuous (i.e., dishonest). Nothing we experience today compares to what the Saints endured in Missouri or Illinois. What �rears its ugly head on the field every Saturday� is competition between teams with zealous fans reacting to unthinking and insensitive remarks such as yours, LeGrand.
The fact is Legrand, my comparisons are just as nonsensical as yours, considering how modern football has so little to do with past history Mormon or otherwise. And I don�t know how you as a BYU fan can honorably claim the Mormon experience as the sole domain of BYU, considering Utah�s shared heritage.
So I can only hope you are a BYU troll � otherwise you must be serious! Scary thought.
Stop talking to yourself.
Think about your football team next year. You lose Johnson, Sakoda, a bunch of people. Now, don't get the wrong impression on this, i'm not saying that Your team is going to "stink" or that they're going to be a bunch of woosees. I'm just saying that you can't go around insulting the other team, when next year, yours won't be any better. But best of luck to Utah next season ;)
There is a lot to be said about praying in the closet.
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Wow! That is the best statement that I have read in 60 days of blogs. The hymn "Secret Prayer" is another.
I also like this quote (can't remember who said it though): "God will listen when you pray publicly and loudly, but he hears you better in the quiet of your bedroom"
Food for thought for all football fans and players who use religion as a flash point(for good or bad)
I even know of loyal BYU fans who are going back to the game and yes, they bought some of the "U" tickets.
BYU has students from all over the country and when they graduate they live everywhere. I'm sick of people saying they sell tickets in the wards!
I live outside of Utah and when BYU has played in our area the "groups" organized to go to the games are done by loyal BYU fans, cougar club members, and NOT at church!
I'm looking forward to going to the Oklahoma game in Dallas and I live in Calif!
If everything about BYU & Utah was equal and a decision had to be made on who to invite to a bowl, BYU would get the invitation. Filling stadiums regardless of who sits in the seats means everything to organizers!
For those who think Utah or TCU has more talented players you are grossly mistaken. I would put up BYU�s team man for man against any other team in the conference.
Admittedly this year BYU�s defense was lacking a little speed in the backfield. I�m sure Mendenhall will take care of that problem very quickly. It appeared that as the season went on this year, Max Hall began to be less able or willing to look at his 2nd and 3rd receivers and particularly the receivers underneath. It appeared that he was trying to force the ball into double coverage down field resulting in too may interceptions. Hall needed to go to Unga who was open much of the time underneath. Hall made Unga a non-factor this year and I don�t see that happening again. When Max Hall begins to spread the ball around next year like he did last year and Bronco fixes the defense, BYU will once again be the Mountain West Conference champions.
In the meantime GO UTAH!!!
I squarely place the blame on the BYU coaching staff. And please don't say we had a descent year. We fell well short of having a good year. Byu football was mediorce at best. Bring in coaches who have the knowledge and experience to shore up weak areas.
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