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TV | 11:02 a.m. Dec. 25, 2008
is only scheduled to play Alta and that might change.. the bingham game had to
be cancelled because UHSSA changed the regions again and added provo back in the
region.
but for now, Alta vs. Timpview is on...
but for now, Alta vs. Timpview is on...
UT County | 11:50 a.m. Dec. 25, 2008
It doesnt matter because PG will beat you both next year and you are both on
schedule. Returning 16 starters from a 10-2 team. Should be a good year and a
new, tough 5A Region!!! Anyway Alta, TV, Cottonwood, Bingham and PG will be
strong. Getting ready for a great year in football. Congrats again TV and
Alta. You are the favorites until beaten.
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RE UT County | 10:12 p.m. Dec. 25, 2008
Please tell me you're joking... I had to listen to smack from PG all
season. "Were going to own 5A" "were the darkhorse and we well
take state", "We barely lost to TV so were going to dominate, at the
end TV and PG will be holding trophies", "PG is going to roll Alta
then take out Bingham for state". Honestly when will you learn? PG is good
in Utah county and that's it. You lost to a team that Alta straight up
hammered the following week. You didn't make it to state. You didn't
make it to the semis even. Deal with it! You're not as good as you think!
You might be returning a bunch of starters but guess what, it doesn't
matter! Syracuse returned THEIR WHOLE TEAM! Plus Alta's JV got to play
almost half the season so were returning plenty too. I'm glad you're
proud of your team and you should be. They had an awesome record and an awesome
season but not good enough and it'll be the same next year.
Wrestling | 10:37 a.m. Dec. 26, 2008
How about Utah prep wrestling? Jason Chamberlain from Springville was the no. 1
high school wrestler in America. Several other Utah wrestlers were
all-americans. Mountain Crest High finished a three-peat, Viewmont won its 5th
title in 7 years, Wasatch won state again and Millard proved to be as good as
anyone. Wrestling is one of the top Utah sports and yet the local newspapers
snub it for the typical basketball and football stories. Wow! Haws is going to
BYU. How about Ethan Lofthouse of MTN Crest signing with Iowa? Now that's
big sports news.
soaptheman | 12:24 p.m. Dec. 26, 2008
I agree with the well stated wrestling fan. I have been a part of high school
wrestling for the past 7 or 8 years and rarely if ever do these young men get
the credit that they deserve. All of that goes to basketball and football as
previously stated. Our sport is by far the toughest of them all. Congrats to
Jason Chamberlain, Ethan Lofthouse and many other great wrestlers for the pay
off of their hardwork and dedication. Too bad nobody really knows about it
because of the lack of coverage given to the sport of wrestling. What a shame
that such great talent is overlooked by the general public.
Anonymous | 12:51 p.m. Dec. 26, 2008
no one cares about wrestling..
if you want people to notice, move to Iowa or Heber, otherwise don't worry about it-
it people ACTUALLY cared, then people would want to hear about it more..
if you want people to notice, move to Iowa or Heber, otherwise don't worry about it-
it people ACTUALLY cared, then people would want to hear about it more..
Wrestling Fan | 2:46 p.m. Dec. 26, 2008
To: Anonymous -- First of all, please write properly, spell words correctly and
make sense with what you write. Now---
Being involved with wrestling for over 30 years, I believe many people 'do care'. To say "no one cares about wrestling" is totally incorrect. There are many people who care and enjoy reading about wrestling. I enjoy reading about any high school sports. It just would be nice to read more about sports other than football and basketball.
Utah does quite well nationally in wrestling. We have had some of the best wrestlers in the country in the past years and Utah is represented well. An article on some of those outstanding individuals would be great. (Like the one on Ethan Lofthouse)
Congrats to all those high school football and basketball players who have received mention in the Trib and let's hope more articles will be coming on other sports and their athletes.
And, hopefully, comments on this site will be positive and upbeat toward ALL high school sports and get fewer comments from those who either don't know what they are talking about or those who love to see their negative comments in print.
Being involved with wrestling for over 30 years, I believe many people 'do care'. To say "no one cares about wrestling" is totally incorrect. There are many people who care and enjoy reading about wrestling. I enjoy reading about any high school sports. It just would be nice to read more about sports other than football and basketball.
Utah does quite well nationally in wrestling. We have had some of the best wrestlers in the country in the past years and Utah is represented well. An article on some of those outstanding individuals would be great. (Like the one on Ethan Lofthouse)
Congrats to all those high school football and basketball players who have received mention in the Trib and let's hope more articles will be coming on other sports and their athletes.
And, hopefully, comments on this site will be positive and upbeat toward ALL high school sports and get fewer comments from those who either don't know what they are talking about or those who love to see their negative comments in print.
Anonymous | 3:24 p.m. Dec. 26, 2008
no you don't get it - if the general public CARED about wrestling then the
Dnews would write about it..
but guess what the GENERAL public doesn't care about wresting, they don't care about Ethan Lofthouse or some kid from Springville.
that is not to take anything any way from those kids..
I use to ski race. there are a lot of great ski racers in Utah - does Dnews talk about them - no - should they - no - because the GENERAL public doesn't care.
but guess what the GENERAL public doesn't care about wresting, they don't care about Ethan Lofthouse or some kid from Springville.
that is not to take anything any way from those kids..
I use to ski race. there are a lot of great ski racers in Utah - does Dnews talk about them - no - should they - no - because the GENERAL public doesn't care.
RE: Anonymous | 6:27 p.m. Dec. 26, 2008
well actually your not paying a lot of attention the article you're
commenting on just mentioned how park city resident's put Utah skiing on
the map and for your information the "kid from Springville" is Jason
Chamberlain he's one of the best high school wrestlers ever he lost two
matches his entire high school carer so obviously you don't know a lot
Anonymous | 6:37 p.m. Dec. 26, 2008
jason who??
never heard of him...
never heard of him...
What?? | 7:14 a.m. Dec. 27, 2008
Anonymous
So I guess the DNews should just print football and boys basketball games from Salt Lake and Utah counties since that is what you think the "GENERAL" public wants. Utah is a great high school wrestling state and it deserves more coverage.
So I guess the DNews should just print football and boys basketball games from Salt Lake and Utah counties since that is what you think the "GENERAL" public wants. Utah is a great high school wrestling state and it deserves more coverage.
Anonymous | 11:05 a.m. Dec. 27, 2008
What about girls basketball?
Alta Alum | 11:33 a.m. Dec. 27, 2008
Update to all Alta football unbelievers:
Alta's only loss this year was to Grant High School out of Sacremento, CA. Grant just won the open division state high school football championship over previously top ranked Cal Poly from Long Beach. Not a bad loss for the Hawks!
With the football season now in the books, Alta has finished the season being ranked 31st in the nation by Max Preps. The next closest Utah team to Alta is Timpview who finished the season being ranked 63rd in the nation. That's right, Alta is the BEST high school football team from the state of Utah!!!
Way to go Alta for finishing a near perfect season!
Alta's only loss this year was to Grant High School out of Sacremento, CA. Grant just won the open division state high school football championship over previously top ranked Cal Poly from Long Beach. Not a bad loss for the Hawks!
With the football season now in the books, Alta has finished the season being ranked 31st in the nation by Max Preps. The next closest Utah team to Alta is Timpview who finished the season being ranked 63rd in the nation. That's right, Alta is the BEST high school football team from the state of Utah!!!
Way to go Alta for finishing a near perfect season!
Anonymous | 1:05 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008
ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Rivals, USA today and Scout have Timpview ranked in
the Top 25 in the country (which is ahead of Alta).
Alta players/coaches/fans need to get over this INFERIORITY complex and just MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
who cares if people think Timpview is the best/top program in Utah
Alta players/coaches/fans need to get over this INFERIORITY complex and just MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
who cares if people think Timpview is the best/top program in Utah
OH JEEZ!! | 1:07 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008
ANOTHER ALTA FAN WHINING ABOUT THE PUBLICITY TIMPVIEW GETS. ALTA WON THE 5A
CHAMPIONSHIP TWICE - YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM AND NEED TO STOP TRYING TO
TALK PEOPLE INTO THINKING YOU'RE BETTER THAN TIMPVIEW'S PROGRAM.
I'M A FAN OF NEITHER BUT GET SICK OF 4A AND 5A SCHOOLS SAYING WHO'S
BEST-
LET IT GO ALTA FANS...
LET IT GO ALTA FANS...
ALTAFAN | 5:28 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008
RE OH JEEZ!!,
I'm not going to say that one program is better then the other. I would love to see it decided on the field. When I talked to Les Hamilton at the state game he said TV refused to play yet again so hopefully the posts at the top of this page are correct. That being said, can you really blame the hawks? All year for the last two years TV fans have been running their mouths about how they're ranked higher and how they would roll us yet continue to refuse to play. Lots of smack with no action is going to get people riled up. It's the nature of the beast. We just want to see some action behind the words. Play an out of state team once in a while. Play a good 5A team once in a while. Beating one or two weak 5A teams doesn't mean you own the state. A little humility will go a long ways. TV should be proud of what they've done as should Alta. Until they actually play each other this will never end.
I'm not going to say that one program is better then the other. I would love to see it decided on the field. When I talked to Les Hamilton at the state game he said TV refused to play yet again so hopefully the posts at the top of this page are correct. That being said, can you really blame the hawks? All year for the last two years TV fans have been running their mouths about how they're ranked higher and how they would roll us yet continue to refuse to play. Lots of smack with no action is going to get people riled up. It's the nature of the beast. We just want to see some action behind the words. Play an out of state team once in a while. Play a good 5A team once in a while. Beating one or two weak 5A teams doesn't mean you own the state. A little humility will go a long ways. TV should be proud of what they've done as should Alta. Until they actually play each other this will never end.
Hey Anonymous! | 8:12 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008
Have you ever heard of that thing called the Olympics? Five Utah wrestlers
competed in the Olympic Trials in wrestling (Nathaniel Holt, Talon Knox, Bo
Beckman, Cheney Haight and Justin Ruiz). I was also wondering if you have heard
of Cael Sanderson, even made a wheaties box--best wrestler college wrestler
ever, won 159 matches without a loss, even won of those ESPY things--I'm
sure you have heard of ESPN--right! Educate yourself and learn to write!
And just because our newspapers don't have a clue doesn't mean the sport doesn't exist or that the sport turns out more nationally recognized athletes from out state in one year than basketball has in a generation.
And just because our newspapers don't have a clue doesn't mean the sport doesn't exist or that the sport turns out more nationally recognized athletes from out state in one year than basketball has in a generation.
sports lover | 11:36 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008
I'd love to hear more about Wrestling, Track, and Swimming. The good thing
about these sports are the kids participate for the love of the game. There are
no coaches deciding who gets what spots on any politics, just kids gutting it
out winning or losing. It's a real fair equalizer. Do your best for your
individual competition and help the team in the long run. Great individual
accomplishments adding to team effort. Hats off to the lesser published sports
and the great athletes competing.
UNTIL | 11:44 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008
Wasatch front area schools fill up their gyms for wrestling matches ..... then
the newspapers will not cover wrestling until the region & state meets. And
then will they only post the winners.
Newspapers have limited space and limited resources. It can not be all things to all people.
It's a life lesson, please learn it.
Newspapers have limited space and limited resources. It can not be all things to all people.
It's a life lesson, please learn it.
Wrestling fills up its gyms all | 11:08 a.m. Dec. 28, 2008
all the time...go watch Delta--Wasatch match next Friday, you won't find a
seat in the house. Saw more fans at a Spanish Fork--Springville wrestling match
than most basketball games, the Box Elder--Mountain Crest is standing room
only...I was also wondering whether girls basketball fills up the gyms, they get
plenty of coverage. The UHSAA wrestling tournament fills the rafters of UVSC,
the all-star dual has had crowds of several thousands, the Rocky Mountain Rumble
will bring in teams from several states and will boast a field of nearly 65
teams...again anonymous and UNTIL, just because our newspapers have their heads
in the sand along with you doesn't mean the sport isn't thriving in
participation, interest or fan attendance...,
Anonymous | 6:14 p.m. Dec. 28, 2008
oh my gosh. Just to settle this dispute, people care about wrestling. Big whoop
someone said nobody does. Get over it!
To Wrestling fills... | 1:53 a.m. Dec. 29, 2008
Personally, I wonder if there are any Delta, Wasatch, Spanish Fork, Springville,
Box Elder, or Mountain Crest fans that can read a newspaper. I don't blame
DesNews for not publishing articles about wrestling. Plus, all of the above
mentioned schools aren't exactly in population centers. I'm from
Southern Utah. Just get over it. If you want feature stories about local
athletes, talk to your local papers.
HS Sports | 1:57 a.m. Dec. 29, 2008
I think there should be a lot more in this article and in this paper about high
school athletes. I'm sure there are plenty of athletes who deserve a lot
more attention. There were a handful of swimmers who were All-American last year
and who went or are going on to Division 1 colleges (that people care about,
sorry wrestling--Iowa?). But what it comes down to, student athletes
shouldn't compete to try to win the eye of one of the big newspapers, they
should compete for the love of their sport.
But more coverage would be nice fans like myself.
But more coverage would be nice fans like myself.
Individual Sports | 2:04 a.m. Dec. 29, 2008
I'm with "Sports Lover", the sports that feature individuals are
the only sports where you can pick one true top athlete. All others make it too
difficult to compare stats when different teams play in different classes
against different opponents. I love sports like track and swimming where you are
the fastest, or you aren't. There's no arguments, and no excuse.
And to "soaptheman", your comment "Our sport is by far the toughest of them all" is inappropriate. I have no respect for athletes who dare belittle any other sport. Have some class.
And to "soaptheman", your comment "Our sport is by far the toughest of them all" is inappropriate. I have no respect for athletes who dare belittle any other sport. Have some class.
Gross | 8:43 a.m. Dec. 29, 2008
Wrestling is the grossest sport that could possibly exist. Sweaty guys grabbing
each other for 3 minutes at a time. The practice room stinks to no end. I
don't know how the coaches could stand being in there. No one watches
wrestling. Now wrastling, that's another thing.
FRiDAY NiGHT RiDER | 10:27 a.m. Dec. 29, 2008
Are you kidding me about the wrestling schools not being in population centers.
SF is 5A MC, Springville and BE are in 4A (Mtn. Crest is only a couple hundred
students from being 5A)and Delta and Wasatch are 3A. I have seen more people at
wrestling tournaments and matches than any girls basketball game. I have even
seen more people at wrestling events than some boys basketball games. And fans
of those schools can read, I am one of them. Perhaps you should take your
ignorance else where as your senseless rants just make you look uneducated.
Wrestling is a big deal in Utah weather you like it or not, Get Over It.
RE: Gross | 11:56 a.m. Dec. 29, 2008
I'm sorry we've offended you "gross" maybe you can spritz
some perfume on the practice room. I'm sure you have some in your purse. O
and I guarantee if you said that to the face of a wrestler you wouldn't
last "3 minutes"
Hey Jody: | 1:07 p.m. Dec. 29, 2008
Last I checked, Drill Team was a sanctioned high school sport. Lets get some
coverage on the Duchesne High School Drill Team that has won 5 consecutive state
titles, and will be going for a 6th this January. No other drill team in state
history has done this. It's news worthy. Get down to Orem at UVU on Jan 31,
and get a write up on these girls and their coaches. Thanks
Gross | 1:25 p.m. Dec. 29, 2008
By the sound of it you are very capable of spritzing all on your own. Sorry but
I have never met a wrestler who made me shake in my pants. Now boxing,
that's a real sport. Name two famous wrestlers? Now name two famous
basketball or football players. I rest my case.
RE: | 1:46 p.m. Dec. 29, 2008
the SLC guy | 12:21 a.m. Dec. 25, 2008
To answer your question:
"IF cottonwood and Tiumpview both show well against Alta and Bingham does that mean that 4A really HAS been the best classification the last 2 years?
NO- by the way what does 'show well' mean? If TV ends up playing Alta and beat then next year, it just gives some justification to all the TV fans that during their streak of UT county foes they can argue that they are or were the best team. The rest of 4A doesn't automatically become better than 5A.
GET A CLUE!!
5A is the better classification either way. 5A wins over 2/3 of the games every year in the head to head games. The all star games ---WOW--- talk about blowouts. The 3rd best 4A team got blown out by NR and beat a 1-9 Freemont team by 7 against their only 2 5A opponents.
To answer your question:
"IF cottonwood and Tiumpview both show well against Alta and Bingham does that mean that 4A really HAS been the best classification the last 2 years?
NO- by the way what does 'show well' mean? If TV ends up playing Alta and beat then next year, it just gives some justification to all the TV fans that during their streak of UT county foes they can argue that they are or were the best team. The rest of 4A doesn't automatically become better than 5A.
GET A CLUE!!
5A is the better classification either way. 5A wins over 2/3 of the games every year in the head to head games. The all star games ---WOW--- talk about blowouts. The 3rd best 4A team got blown out by NR and beat a 1-9 Freemont team by 7 against their only 2 5A opponents.
Grant HS | 2:24 p.m. Dec. 29, 2008
Another note. Alta could have pulled that game off like they did the year
before, but too many turnovers this year for the repeat.
Interesting notes:
Grant finished #14 in the nation and were the CIF champs and beat Poly/Long Beach. It was Poly's only loss. Poly started off the season with a blow out win over 2 time 6A Florida champ Northwestern. Northwestern was coming off a national #1 ranking in several polls. Northwestern lost in the 6A finals this year.
Why does this matter?
The Utah teams are not as far behind the so-called national power HS teams.
Interesting notes:
Grant finished #14 in the nation and were the CIF champs and beat Poly/Long Beach. It was Poly's only loss. Poly started off the season with a blow out win over 2 time 6A Florida champ Northwestern. Northwestern was coming off a national #1 ranking in several polls. Northwestern lost in the 6A finals this year.
Why does this matter?
The Utah teams are not as far behind the so-called national power HS teams.
OK | 2:56 p.m. Dec. 29, 2008
RE:Anonymous | 1:05 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008
ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Rivals, USA today and Scout have Timpview ranked in the Top 25 in the country (which is ahead of Alta).
ESPN had TV at #50, not in the top 25. btw- Grant was #10 and Trinity #9 (after Allen, TX #2 got payback from a earlier loss to Trinity and won 5A-region 1 in TX)-Good luck next year Bingham.
SI.com -Now there is a reliable source. Poly who was ranked #2 and finished ranked #13 after they lost to unbeaten Open CA St champs Grant. What did they rank Grant after beating their #2. They didn't-Go figure.
As a UTE fan I want to send a memo to the Bronco and his coaching staff. PLEASE....PLEASE.....PLEASE... keep recruiting TV kids. I love seeing them get smoked in big games and especially on national TV. Keep them coming, need more slow guys in the secondary.
ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Rivals, USA today and Scout have Timpview ranked in the Top 25 in the country (which is ahead of Alta).
ESPN had TV at #50, not in the top 25. btw- Grant was #10 and Trinity #9 (after Allen, TX #2 got payback from a earlier loss to Trinity and won 5A-region 1 in TX)-Good luck next year Bingham.
SI.com -Now there is a reliable source. Poly who was ranked #2 and finished ranked #13 after they lost to unbeaten Open CA St champs Grant. What did they rank Grant after beating their #2. They didn't-Go figure.
As a UTE fan I want to send a memo to the Bronco and his coaching staff. PLEASE....PLEASE.....PLEASE... keep recruiting TV kids. I love seeing them get smoked in big games and especially on national TV. Keep them coming, need more slow guys in the secondary.
Anonymous | 7:38 p.m. Dec. 29, 2008
american fork beat skyline in football... that should be up there
Wrestling | 11:14 p.m. Dec. 29, 2008
Guess these knuckleheads missed the Viewmont-Davis match. Packed house at
Viewmont. Last time I checked both schools are along the Wasatch Front. Problem
is, they aren't in SLC.
sports fan | 7:40 a.m. Dec. 30, 2008
I can't believe how some people talk so much trash about wrestling. If you
don't like it then that is fine, but don't talk smack about those
kids. Pound for pound I would say they are the toughest kids in highschool.
Also I encourage you to look at the average GPA of the wrestling teams.
Wrestling has more honor roll kids than football and basketball combined with
not near the kids. Don't talk smack about smart tough kids.
To sports fan | 7:52 a.m. Dec. 30, 2008
It's just typical for a lot people here. They still live in the 1950s.
RE: Gross | 3:16 p.m. Dec. 30, 2008
whatever man wrestlers are tougher than any other sports group. o and you want a
list of famous wrestlers how about: Dan Gable, Cael Sanderson, Rulon Gardner,
Pat Smith, Brian Urlacher, John Mcain, Warren Sapp and Ray Lewis were both state
champs in florida. Carlton Haselrig was a NCAA wrestling champ and a pro bowler
for the Pittsburgh Steelers.Yeah check the list it goes on and on O and for
those of you who don't know who Jason Chamberlain is check out the article
on Utah's top ten high school sport stories of the year
Anonymous | 2:24 a.m. Dec. 31, 2008
How about adding these to the list: Abraham Lincoln, Joseph Smith, Dennis
Hastert (former Speaker of the House), Tom Cruise, William Baldwin, Robin
Williams, Stephen Neal (New England Patriots--never played college football by
the way) and Utah NFL products Ryon Bingham (two-time state champ Alta HS with
Chargers), Haloti Ngata (second in state with the Ravens) and Chris Cooley
(state champ and All-American and all pro with the Redkins). Also add in Rondo
Fehlberg, much respected former AD for BYU and NCAA All-American. I hope some
of you out there have heard of these folk!
Monika | 9:58 a.m. Dec. 31, 2008
To Anonymous, Joe Smith is not famous, don't include him in your list.
Anonymous | 12:15 p.m. Dec. 31, 2008
We play sports because we love them!! Not for recognition. We shouldn't
expect to be covered and be appreciative when we are. All sports have
challenging factors and deserve respect. Our state has produced some very
talented athletes from every sport because those athletes work very hard to get
there.
Joseph Smith was a Wrestler! | 1:09 p.m. Dec. 31, 2008
Joseph Smith was actually nominated by former BYU coach Mark Schultz (Olympic
Gold Medalist) for the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. He was one of the best
"catch style" wrestlers of his area with quite a reputation. He was
also contemporary with another catch style wrestling legend of that
area--Abraham Lincoln.
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The schedule makers are listening.
Alta and Bingham both play each other AND Cottonwood AND Timpview.
Break out the popcorn, I'll be all over those games.
But one question. IF cottonwood and Tiumpview both show well against Alta and Bingham does that mean that 4A really HAS been the best classification the last 2 years?