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BYU football: Promising season ends in bitter disappointment
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RELAX | 10:50 a.m. Dec. 22, 2008
GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!! FOOTBALL DOESN'T MATTER!!!
T-ravis | 11:01 a.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Hey cougs, you're looking a little chubby after that third slice of humble
pie. GO UTES!!!
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Yewts/Zoobs - Slur? | 11:08 a.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Political correctness on a sports blog? Heaven forbid. I suppose a PETA fan
will write in complaining on behalf of all cougars, mountain lions, pumas and
cats.
Otherwise most of us ignore the those that use slurs "ywets", "war kittens", "zoobs" as an extension of their ignorant and generally stupid arguements - if you can call them that at all.
Otherwise, save the PC'ness for the political/church blogs. If your sensibilities are offended and can't take the smack find yourself a new source of entertainment.
Tarheel Ute
Otherwise most of us ignore the those that use slurs "ywets", "war kittens", "zoobs" as an extension of their ignorant and generally stupid arguements - if you can call them that at all.
Otherwise, save the PC'ness for the political/church blogs. If your sensibilities are offended and can't take the smack find yourself a new source of entertainment.
Tarheel Ute
MWC Fan | 11:49 a.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Please Utes... save some of our conference dignity on January 2nd...
Is it just me... | 11:55 a.m. Dec. 22, 2008
or are most of the comments here foolish enough to belong on the playground:
"my dad can beat up your dad" i can't even believe how ridiculous
some of you are acting.
U fans~ lets use some logic here- you're all crowing about how invincible the utes are and how embarrasing the Y is to the MWC, but what superior teams did the U play this year that the Y didn't? you basically had the same schedule minus a few teams and yes, you played superior, but some of you are acting like you've beaten teams like florida or oklahoma, so give me a break. yes, your team is great this year!, so why do you have to be so nasty and classless about it?
Y fans~ let's put things in perspective... yes, the losses stunk and byu didn't perform like they should have in 3 games this season, that is exactly why we love to watch football because the outcome is never certain. so why do fools always blame it on bronco or firesides or individual players? c'mon people. i will always be a byu football fan! just because we lose three games doesn't mean we're doomed!
U fans~ lets use some logic here- you're all crowing about how invincible the utes are and how embarrasing the Y is to the MWC, but what superior teams did the U play this year that the Y didn't? you basically had the same schedule minus a few teams and yes, you played superior, but some of you are acting like you've beaten teams like florida or oklahoma, so give me a break. yes, your team is great this year!, so why do you have to be so nasty and classless about it?
Y fans~ let's put things in perspective... yes, the losses stunk and byu didn't perform like they should have in 3 games this season, that is exactly why we love to watch football because the outcome is never certain. so why do fools always blame it on bronco or firesides or individual players? c'mon people. i will always be a byu football fan! just because we lose three games doesn't mean we're doomed!
same ole excuses .... | 12:28 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
with BYU it's the same ole excuses after they lose to a team with a winning
record - "we didn't execute". Let's change that a bit - you
actually DID execute to the best of your ability BYU but Arizona (like TCU and
Utah) CAUSED you to not execute better. That is what happens when you play a
better team - you just don't execute as well. BYU could practice for 6
weeks straight and the outcome would be the same as well as the excuses -"
we didn't execute". So how do you fix POOR EXECUITION???? Practice
harder??? Nope - how about getting BETTER PLAYERS!!!!! YES, BETTER PLAYERS will
solve poor execution every time. So Bronco, since you are so bold to stand up
and take the blame (which you should) it is time to put up or shut up. Either
stop all the nonsense talk about "quest for excellence" and accept
mediocrity OR go get some players that do do have some SPEED, and SIZE and that
can solve this "execution problem" that BYU seems to have when playing
good teams.
nate | 12:44 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Another loss in a meaningless bowl game! Oh Well! At least BYU is 1-0 in the
only bowl game that truly mattered when they won the National Championship in
1984!
Teams can rack up all the bowl wins they want, but if the bowl game isn't for the National Title, who really cares?
I think it would be funny to see Utah go undefeated again this year and yet only have an MWC title to show for it! Even if they beat 'Bama, it's just another meaningless bowl win with No National Championship to show for it!!
Teams can rack up all the bowl wins they want, but if the bowl game isn't for the National Title, who really cares?
I think it would be funny to see Utah go undefeated again this year and yet only have an MWC title to show for it! Even if they beat 'Bama, it's just another meaningless bowl win with No National Championship to show for it!!
In 1984 | 12:48 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
BYU beat a 6-5 Michigan team because Washington didnt want to play BYU (money)
and opted to play Oklahoma (ranked) instead.
Somehow in the end BYU became national champs by going undefeated and beating nobody...
By this logic wouldnt the 04 Utes be national champs?
Somehow in the end BYU became national champs by going undefeated and beating nobody...
By this logic wouldnt the 04 Utes be national champs?
nate | 12:51 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
A National Title is a National Title!! BYU won every game on their schedule in
1984 and deserved to win the National Title! Utah has yet to win a National
Title....close doesn't cut it!
re: Yewts/Zoobs - Slur? | 1:10 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
But you are missing the point. Terms like "Zoobs,"
"kittens," and the likes are very different. These two alterations
are not directed at a tribal name. "Yewts" is altering and mocking the
name of an established, recognized native american tribe. That's why it is
kind of spiteful and offensive.
Hey nate | 1:11 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
You werent even alive in 1984 were you?
"Meaningless" could also be applied to a trophy that is nearly 25 years old...
When the championship you won is older than most of your players, it loses a lot of credibility.
Way to beat a 6-5 Michigan team for the "title" though. That was REALLY impressive
"Meaningless" could also be applied to a trophy that is nearly 25 years old...
When the championship you won is older than most of your players, it loses a lot of credibility.
Way to beat a 6-5 Michigan team for the "title" though. That was REALLY impressive
Arizona Reader | 1:10 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
I'm a Cougar fan and I had to eat crow after such a poor showing from the
Cougs. Go back and watch the game if you have it on TiVo or DVR. They show a
clip of the two teams running out of the tunnel...that is all that they needed
to show. U of A was very excited to be there and BYU just jogged out like it
was another game. The game was over (mentally) from the beginning. These are
BYU's issues they need to fix next year to have any chance at BCS hopes:
* Cornerbacks that run faster than a 5.0 40-yard dash
* A running back that stops rushing like a pansy and powers it up the middle
* A kick return team that is worth a penny candy
* A defensive line that acutally gets to the quarterback
* An offensive line that isn't so huge they get in their own way. With our size, Hall should never be hit, and we ought to average 5 yards a rusn minimum.
* Hall to step it up in big games and not panic. He's 0-3 in games played against avg or better opponents.
* Cornerbacks that run faster than a 5.0 40-yard dash
* A running back that stops rushing like a pansy and powers it up the middle
* A kick return team that is worth a penny candy
* A defensive line that acutally gets to the quarterback
* An offensive line that isn't so huge they get in their own way. With our size, Hall should never be hit, and we ought to average 5 yards a rusn minimum.
* Hall to step it up in big games and not panic. He's 0-3 in games played against avg or better opponents.
Re:Nate | 1:34 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Wow, I would not have known the Holiday bowl in 1984 was tied to the National
Championship.
Wait it wasn't! Which means BYU did not play in an NC bowl game.
Not only that they weren't awarded the National Championship after they won the Holiday bowl. It wasn't until a few weeks later after everyone lost were they awarded(gifted) the NC.
So technically BYU has never played in a National Championship Bowl game *either*.
Wait it wasn't! Which means BYU did not play in an NC bowl game.
Not only that they weren't awarded the National Championship after they won the Holiday bowl. It wasn't until a few weeks later after everyone lost were they awarded(gifted) the NC.
So technically BYU has never played in a National Championship Bowl game *either*.
Re:nate | 1:35 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
They didn't *deserve* to win.. they were gifted it.
sunrise, sunset | 1:40 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
seasons come and seasons go. yes, it STINKS when your team chokes in a game.
yes, it's GREAT when they go undefeated! but BOTH Y and U fans need to stop
the neener neener name calling (at each other and at the coaches/players!) and
show some basic civility and respect. it is so foolish to finger point to just
one or a few reasons to why your team loses a game. just as MANY things
contribute to a win (coaching, players, and even circumstances) the same goes
for a loss. we ALL have our good days and bad days. the same max hall that
didn't play up to par in the arizona game is the SAME max hall that helped
us gain 10 wins. a 10-3 season is not something to be ashamed of. it stinks when
the last two losses were hard, but BYU is still a great football team! i fully
support bronco, the other coaches, and the players from this year and wish them
a Merry Christmas! GO COUG'S!
RE: Nate | 2:01 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Yes BYU did deserve a championship but that is the point look how jazzed you are
about 1984??? As a sports fan in general there is no other school that has fans
like BYU. 1984 that is a long time ago. In current terms BYU is one of the worst
bowl teams in college football. They lucked out with a 6-5 Michigan but yes you
won GREAT JOB.
Again GREAT JOB BYU YOU WON IN 1984 but back in current 2008 BYU is football garbage especially when they have to step outside LES.
BYU IS CURRENTLY HORRIBLE BUT YES YOU WON IN 1984. I wasn't alive yet but good work.
LAME BYU FANS CRACK ME UP:)
Again GREAT JOB BYU YOU WON IN 1984 but back in current 2008 BYU is football garbage especially when they have to step outside LES.
BYU IS CURRENTLY HORRIBLE BUT YES YOU WON IN 1984. I wasn't alive yet but good work.
LAME BYU FANS CRACK ME UP:)
yeah man | 2:16 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
BSU, undefeated National Champs this season and 2 years ago by the same
reasoning.
Constant Reminders of the Weak Mythical National Championship (split if I recall correctly) makes Cougar Fan appear desperate to hang on to long past glory. For those of you mathematically challenged folks, 1984 was 34 years ago. A Mythical National Championship 34 years ago means nothing. A Bunch of tired Sportswriters who didn't have the backbone to vote for the real best team in 1984 is the real reason for the 1984 BYU Mythical National Championship
Constant Reminders of the Weak Mythical National Championship (split if I recall correctly) makes Cougar Fan appear desperate to hang on to long past glory. For those of you mathematically challenged folks, 1984 was 34 years ago. A Mythical National Championship 34 years ago means nothing. A Bunch of tired Sportswriters who didn't have the backbone to vote for the real best team in 1984 is the real reason for the 1984 BYU Mythical National Championship
BYU Fan | 2:35 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Our Team has had a bad year and was not coached very well by Mendenhall and his
staff. However in spite of that the rest of the World still considers BYU the
team to beat in the Mountain like it or not!!! Other teams in the conference do
luck our once in a while. Like they say even a blind squarell finds a nut once
in awhile. We feel bad this year and now we know how all these other teams have
felt for the last 25 years. So enjoy your day in the sun. This too will pass.
what's embarrassing? | 2:38 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
it may be embarrassing that the Y didn't play well in the las vegas bowl,
but what's more embarrassing is how some Y (and U) fans act afterwards.
c'mon people. i know posting helps people to vent, but realistically the Y
had a good football season, even if the last 2 games were hard to swallow.
it's hard to end on a bad note, but we can rally. the blame game gets us no
where. coach mendenhall has and is doing a great job with the football program.
nate | 2:50 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
A national title is a national title! Utah has 0 national titles, BYU has 1!!
Utah can win all the meaningless bowl games they want, but if they don't
win a National Title, who cares!!
By the way, who did Utah truly beat this year or in 2004 for that matter?? Every Utah fan knows that TCU beat themselves, and Oregon State beat themselves. Utah only won 10 games this year.
By the way, who did Utah truly beat this year or in 2004 for that matter?? Every Utah fan knows that TCU beat themselves, and Oregon State beat themselves. Utah only won 10 games this year.
nate | 3:04 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
2008 - 1984 = 34 years??? Wow, you must have gone to school at the U of U!!
Impressive!!
A national title is a national title!! BYU = 1 vs. Utah = 0!!
Bowl wins that truly mattered: BYU = 1, Utah = 0.
A national title is a national title!! BYU = 1 vs. Utah = 0!!
Bowl wins that truly mattered: BYU = 1, Utah = 0.
Language | 3:14 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
I will use the word Yewt whenever I want, because yewt fans call me a zoobie!
Go back to your reservations, Yewts!! HA! I love the first amendment. Tell me again I can't say whatever I want, and I will call you unconstitutional!!
Go back to your reservations, Yewts!! HA! I love the first amendment. Tell me again I can't say whatever I want, and I will call you unconstitutional!!
Cougar | 3:34 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
I agree with Nate. BYU has never lost a game, they have only not executed.
Everyone Utah has ever beaten has beat themselves and BYU is the best football
program in the country. Don't beleive it, just ask them.
BYU fans | 3:46 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Better watch all your slams students. The admin will get you booted from campus
- faster than watching MTV.
He just didn't want them to win | 3:43 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
God didn't want BYU to win.
Re: Language | 3:52 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
No one said you can't say it. They just said that if you do then it shows
how classless and ignorant you are. Thanks for helping us out with that.
Nate LOL | 3:55 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
Nate your making us all laugh.
Still go your 8 track?
Still go your 8 track?
Chuck | 4:26 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
to:"re: Yewts/Zoobs - Slur? | 1:10 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
But you are missing the point. Terms like "Zoobs," "kittens," and the likes are very different. These two alterations are not directed at a tribal name. "Yewts" is altering and mocking the name of an established, recognized native american tribe. That's why it is kind of spiteful and offensive."
Nahhhh, dude, you are missing the point.
I always call the Utes, Utes, because I am not in second grade anymore.
When Utah fans use "Kewgs, Kewgies, War Kittens," you are disrecting BYU, and you know it.
Then to hide behind the "Sacredness" of the Ute Nation when it was the UofU who chose the name, and the names "Yeweties, Ewets, Yewts" come out, you continue to whine.
Grow up a little bit, Ute fans.
Don't forget it was just last year you got smoked at UNLV, and were third in MWC, Oh, and the year before.
Win with class.
Wait, Ive been in RES, Class and Utah Fans are oxymorons.
But you are missing the point. Terms like "Zoobs," "kittens," and the likes are very different. These two alterations are not directed at a tribal name. "Yewts" is altering and mocking the name of an established, recognized native american tribe. That's why it is kind of spiteful and offensive."
Nahhhh, dude, you are missing the point.
I always call the Utes, Utes, because I am not in second grade anymore.
When Utah fans use "Kewgs, Kewgies, War Kittens," you are disrecting BYU, and you know it.
Then to hide behind the "Sacredness" of the Ute Nation when it was the UofU who chose the name, and the names "Yeweties, Ewets, Yewts" come out, you continue to whine.
Grow up a little bit, Ute fans.
Don't forget it was just last year you got smoked at UNLV, and were third in MWC, Oh, and the year before.
Win with class.
Wait, Ive been in RES, Class and Utah Fans are oxymorons.
re: Language | 4:29 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
I'm the one who posted the comment about using the term "Yewt"
being disrespectful. Well, FYI, I don't need to go back to my reservation,
because I already LIVE ON A RESERVATION. It's your choice if you want to
be immature and disrespect my heritage, just because someone calls you a
"zoobie." You sound really grown up! If you want to hide behind the
1st ammendment, so be it. Just don't pay us a visit on the reservation.
Don't cry when people start calling you "MORONS" instead of
Mormons.
Re: Language | 4:50 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
As a very embarrassed BYU graduate, I want to make it clear that
"Language" must represent a tiny fraction of BYU fans and students.
Maybe you can say whatever you want, including racial and ethnic epithets but it
makes you, your school and the church that operates it look bad (mostly it just
makes you look racist). When I attended BYU religious instruction was
mandatory. Did something change? Just in case, I will refer you to Matthew
5:44 or 3 Nephi 12:44. I guess you also forgot that little admonition about
turning the other cheek.
479 posts | 4:52 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
400 from Utah fans whining about a myriad topics, from the game, to
disrespecting the "Ute Nation", to closing the doors at BYU.
I'm just curious. Utah beat BYU once in the past three years, but revel in the fact that BYU lost to TCU and AZ.
Do you Utah fans really have any type of life? Does this loss improve your income, your relationship with your family, your friends, co-workers? Utah was not even on the field when BYU played TCU or AZ, yet 479 posts?
Are you kids really that miserable?
It's sort of pathetic when you think about it.
Personally, I think BYU had a decent season, and I enjoyed it for the most part. I think that is the difference. I am a BYU fan. I don't hate the Utes. I wish them success.
Go and beat Bama, but if you lose, and really get your rears handed to you, do you really think all the negativity you have handed out this year won't come back to you through some sort of Karmic retribution?
I'm just curious. Utah beat BYU once in the past three years, but revel in the fact that BYU lost to TCU and AZ.
Do you Utah fans really have any type of life? Does this loss improve your income, your relationship with your family, your friends, co-workers? Utah was not even on the field when BYU played TCU or AZ, yet 479 posts?
Are you kids really that miserable?
It's sort of pathetic when you think about it.
Personally, I think BYU had a decent season, and I enjoyed it for the most part. I think that is the difference. I am a BYU fan. I don't hate the Utes. I wish them success.
Go and beat Bama, but if you lose, and really get your rears handed to you, do you really think all the negativity you have handed out this year won't come back to you through some sort of Karmic retribution?
Unbelievable | 5:11 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
The Native American mascot controversy has been with us since the 1970's.
It should be noted that while some tribes have requested that the use of their
tribal name as a mascot be discontinued, other tribes have supported the use of
their tribal names as a tribute to their heritage.
The Ute tribe approved the use of the name "Utes" for the University of Utah and the NCAA granted a waiver to allow the name to remain. (Several other schools have been granted similar waivers while, infamously, the University of North Dakota kept appealing to the NCAA to keep the name "Fighting Sioux" despite the failure of the Sioux tribe to approve the use of the name and as a consequence U of ND received some mild sanctions from the NCAA).
The "go back to your reservations" comment by "Language" is beyond belief. I can't even think of something more offensive to a Native American. I hate it when people refer to Mormons as "morons" but (and I say this as someone who is LDS), in the case of "Language", it is more than appropriate.
The Ute tribe approved the use of the name "Utes" for the University of Utah and the NCAA granted a waiver to allow the name to remain. (Several other schools have been granted similar waivers while, infamously, the University of North Dakota kept appealing to the NCAA to keep the name "Fighting Sioux" despite the failure of the Sioux tribe to approve the use of the name and as a consequence U of ND received some mild sanctions from the NCAA).
The "go back to your reservations" comment by "Language" is beyond belief. I can't even think of something more offensive to a Native American. I hate it when people refer to Mormons as "morons" but (and I say this as someone who is LDS), in the case of "Language", it is more than appropriate.
re:re: Language | 4:29 p.m | 5:14 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
"It's your choice if you want to be immature and disrespect my
heritage, just because someone calls you a "zoobie." You sound really
grown up!"
I really doubt you are a Native American living on a reservation. Ute trolls have a way of being dihonest on these boards. However, I would like to respond as if you are who you say you are.
I think you really need to grow up, and stop hiding behind the disrespect to your heritage. Dude, no one is disrespecting your heritage. They are disrespecting the U of U the same way Ute fandom disrepects BYU.
You spoke of choice. It's your "choice" to lend your name to the University of Utah. What, you are surprised that some fans are going to make fun of it.
Many college sports team have had their American Indian Mascots pulled. You chose not to. And, like the previous poster said, we have the first ammenment right to free expression in this country, no matter how offensive or repugnant it gets.
My advice, if you don't like it, pull the name.
And serious, "Morons" instead of "Mormons"? That's incredibly "fresh" and mature. What college team has a Mormon Mascot?
I really doubt you are a Native American living on a reservation. Ute trolls have a way of being dihonest on these boards. However, I would like to respond as if you are who you say you are.
I think you really need to grow up, and stop hiding behind the disrespect to your heritage. Dude, no one is disrespecting your heritage. They are disrespecting the U of U the same way Ute fandom disrepects BYU.
You spoke of choice. It's your "choice" to lend your name to the University of Utah. What, you are surprised that some fans are going to make fun of it.
Many college sports team have had their American Indian Mascots pulled. You chose not to. And, like the previous poster said, we have the first ammenment right to free expression in this country, no matter how offensive or repugnant it gets.
My advice, if you don't like it, pull the name.
And serious, "Morons" instead of "Mormons"? That's incredibly "fresh" and mature. What college team has a Mormon Mascot?
To: re:re: Language | 4:29 p.m | | 5:33 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
You, sir or madam, are the very definition of an ugly American.
I didn't see | 5:34 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
I didn't see any Arizona fans throwing beer in the faces of BYU players
like I did at RES! Proving once again, some Utes have no class! None, zero,
zip, nada!
RE: Language, etc. | 5:36 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
It is really scary that at the end of 2008 some readers of the Deseret News
would support ethnic insults. Maybe Utah is as backward as many outsiders
think.
re:re: re: Language | 5:57 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
I am neither a Ute nor a Cougar (nor a native of Utah for that matter) but have
followed both football teams somewhat since moving here about two years ago.
The back-and-forth between the fans of both schools often is quite amusing (and
juvenile) but in this case it's actually worrying me.
Let's see -- you are recommending that if a university doesn't want the name of its team mocked by racists it should change the name? Or, if members of the Ute tribe don't want their tribal name mocked that they should withdraw permission for its use? I think I get it -- no one should call on racially based insults to be stopped, we should just have the targets of those insults change their name if they don't like it. I guess the 1960's skipped BYU. Keep on exercising your first amendment rights -- it shows us all just how much prejudice, arrogance and hatred you harbor.
Let's see -- you are recommending that if a university doesn't want the name of its team mocked by racists it should change the name? Or, if members of the Ute tribe don't want their tribal name mocked that they should withdraw permission for its use? I think I get it -- no one should call on racially based insults to be stopped, we should just have the targets of those insults change their name if they don't like it. I guess the 1960's skipped BYU. Keep on exercising your first amendment rights -- it shows us all just how much prejudice, arrogance and hatred you harbor.
RE: Nate | 6:18 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
By the way, who did Utah truly beat this year or in 2004 for that matter?? Every
Utah fan knows that TCU beat themselves, and Oregon State beat themselves. Utah
only won 10 games this year.
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Hmm one team comes to mind... Hint a 48-24 thrashing.
That's funny, with your logic CSU and Washington beat themselves. So BYU is 8-5 this year but unlike you I don't live in the fairy-tail world.
I recall OSU and TCU could not stop a real QB from winning the game at the end. See unlike Max Hall BJ showed up in big games.
More facts for Zoobs to ponder:
2004 Utah beat a #19 8-4 Pitt vs.
1984 BYU beat no ranked team and beat 6-5 MI
2008 Utah team beat 3 ranked teams and with 12-0 made the 2nd BCS vs.
BYU lost to TCU 32-7, 48-24, and a lame UofA team that lost to New Mexico and was 7-5.
Given these facts its no wonder Zoobs have an elite program.
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Hmm one team comes to mind... Hint a 48-24 thrashing.
That's funny, with your logic CSU and Washington beat themselves. So BYU is 8-5 this year but unlike you I don't live in the fairy-tail world.
I recall OSU and TCU could not stop a real QB from winning the game at the end. See unlike Max Hall BJ showed up in big games.
More facts for Zoobs to ponder:
2004 Utah beat a #19 8-4 Pitt vs.
1984 BYU beat no ranked team and beat 6-5 MI
2008 Utah team beat 3 ranked teams and with 12-0 made the 2nd BCS vs.
BYU lost to TCU 32-7, 48-24, and a lame UofA team that lost to New Mexico and was 7-5.
Given these facts its no wonder Zoobs have an elite program.
Y Grad & Dad | 6:31 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
I think the misuse of the Ute name needs to stop. I would hope that all of
BYU's alum would speak out against the Insult directed to the Ute tribe.
Also Mr. Dick Harmon a lot of fans put stock into the things you write
here's your chance to speak up and do the right thing towards stopping this
insult.
RE: Nate | 8:20 p.m. Dec. 22, 2008
In 2004 Utah beat some very good teams: Texas A&M, New Mexico, North
Carolina, Wyoming, BYU (wait I said good teams), 2008 They beat Oregon State,
TCU, And Michigan in the BIG HOUSE(bad year but still had some good games), BYU
(woops another slip, I meant good teams) and they dominated all the other MWC
teams. 1984 National Championship Only teams BYU played were average Baylor,
Tulsa, and Pitt. Great year for BYU but National Championship is a JOKE
ECR | 7:43 a.m. Dec. 23, 2008
6:18 and 8:20 - It's been 24 years and you guys are still whining!
I'm a mild BYU fan and I love the Utes (I'm hoping and expecting them
to beat Alabama and show the over-rated SEC that they ARE over-rated. But I
must say this about the 84 Cougars - all they did was beat everybody on their
schedule. They were the only team in the nation to do that. What else can you
ask or expect fo them? We can speculate about a number of games - What would
have happened if they had played -----? But that's all it is -
specualtion. So get over it.
2004 utes | 8:40 a.m. Dec. 23, 2008
the utes were definitely good in 2004, but unfortunately for them got no
National Title to show for it. It's a disgusting college football system
that allowed a team like Pittsburgh into the BCS in 2004. It's a shame
Utah never had the chance to prove how good they were that year, by playing a
top 10 team or playing in a college football playoff. We'll never know how
good utah really was that year.
Go Utes | 10:28 a.m. Dec. 23, 2008
Go Utah and too bad Tabernacle Tech lost!!!!
Anonymous | 1:16 p.m. Dec. 23, 2008
I write this from a Tribal clinic where I work and can assure you that most
Native Americans take no offense when their Tribe is represented properly. The
main reason why Utah fans love to hate BYU is because of their utter
arrogance/ignorance. I believe this arises by being members of the "only
true church" and living in Utah forever. This makes you think that
everyone else's relgion is "not true" and gives you a slanted
perception of reality. When this is totally engrained in you, you also believe
your University is "true" and everyone else's is "not
true". Somehow, because you have class, nobody else does. FYI Cougars,
nobody likes it when others put themselves on a pedestal and look down on their
religion, university, etc. This is why UTE fans are passionate about trying to
knock BYU of that lofty pedestal!
Who cares about 1984... | 2:37 p.m. Dec. 23, 2008
I get so sick and tired of these BYU fans that bring up that faux National Title
in 1984. That paper championship was awarded when College Football had a worse
system in place than the current BCS. That '84 team played a weak schedule
with no ranked opponents and defeated a horrible 6-5 Michigan team. Not to
mention, like a previous poster, they played Michigan by default or else the
Washington team would have rolled BYU. I can tell you this BYU fans, along with
death and taxes, there is a third certainty, you will never win another National
Title. The bottom line is, you recruit subpar athletes. Your athletes are
slower, smaller and lack true D-1 talent. Football falls 5th on your goals list
and until you loosen up on University standards the top level athletes will
avoid the commitment. You may have the trophy in the case but it should carry a
huge asterisk or better yet- give it back to the NCAA with an apology. Utah fans
are giving it to you pretty hard after your embarrassing showing in Las Vegas
but please refrain from running your 1984 title smack.
Robo | 5:56 p.m. Dec. 23, 2008
Wow, the 10 teams that lost to BYU must really be embarrassed based on these
comments.
MWC Teams are winning | 9:44 p.m. Dec. 23, 2008
So far CSU and TCU are winners and BYU are the chokers. Way to represent the
conference losers
Ute Fan in Seattle | 11:55 p.m. Dec. 23, 2008
I'm a Ute fan, but I must defend BYU when I read comments like how bad
Arizona spanked them. Did anyone look at the numbers for this game? BYU had
more first downs, more passing yards, more rushing yards and the edge in time of
possession. They just made too many mistakes.
I certainly wouldn't give Arizona too much credit.
To the BSU fans, you're 12-1 now. Good season, but time to stop whining about the BCS and claiming to be better than Utah.
To TCU, Utah beat you. It was a close game, but you lost. You're not #1 in the MWC.
To Bama fans (including recent Bama converts who just want to see the Utes lose), go ahead and keep underestimating the Utes. You're playing right into our hands.
I certainly wouldn't give Arizona too much credit.
To the BSU fans, you're 12-1 now. Good season, but time to stop whining about the BCS and claiming to be better than Utah.
To TCU, Utah beat you. It was a close game, but you lost. You're not #1 in the MWC.
To Bama fans (including recent Bama converts who just want to see the Utes lose), go ahead and keep underestimating the Utes. You're playing right into our hands.
MWC | 1:46 p.m. Dec. 24, 2008
look i dont care if youre a ute fan or byu fan im neither but lets be honest byu
and the utes will never be able to beat Georgia, Bama, Or Florida they are to
big to fast and to strong. and Oklahoma doesnt count when Bosie beat them Big 12
has no D SEC has everything and Florida is ridiculous. Bama is HUGE and should
beat Utah by 21 easily and georgia has the best RB in the country (ask Hawaii,
and the CMU player he hurdled) these tiny schools that have USU and other
horrible teams on the scheduel will never and should never go to a BCS game it
is a waste of the SEC teams time.
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However, I do find offense to things like the tomahawk chop, the name "Redskins" and mocking the "Utes" name with the juvenile on purpose mis-spelling of "yewts" that attempts to demean your rival.
How would you like it if a team you played against was called the "Navuoo Mob" and made a shooting gesture mocking the murder of Joseph Smith?
Not too funny is it?
A little human decency goes a long way!
Go Utes!