concerned fan | 12:39 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
D-Will should sit and rest his ankle, let Price/Knight/Miles do the point guard job,we don't want to loose D-Will for the entire season along with loosing games with him,there's too much at stake.. yes I agree D-Will has the heart of trying to help his team, but you gonna use your head too!
Ryan | 6:13 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
I wouldn't mind seeing DWill take another week off to rest the ankle before trying to come back as close to 100% as possible. After all, that's what Boozer seems to be doing.
Ho Hum | 6:52 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
What's a Jazz?
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Lottery baby | 7:05 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
At this rate, I wonder who we will get in the lottery. We've lost 3 games at home to eastern conference power houses (Chicago, NJ, Miami). I can't wait to see what we do against the top teams in the east...
Here we go again | 7:22 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Starting to remind you of another season where boozer took the whole year of with a minor injury. We need to trade him before his value gets even worse. A mosquito bite and he is out for 2 months. Trade him to the Heat for Haslem.
Jazz looking like. . . | 7:27 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
"also-rans" in the Northwest Division. . .
TicketHolder | 8:01 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Whatever happened to the days of playing through the pain? Strained Quad, sore hip, hurt pinky, upset stomach and half the team is out for months. It's time to let the self centered, narcissistic, me first ego go and consider the fact you play for a team.
crowtonlover | 8:04 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
You people need to quit it with the negativity. We lost and you blame boozer for it? why don't we blame those players out on the court? Like Okur who played like garbage.

As for the person who suggest we trade boozer for haslem, you are stupid.
Mo | 8:10 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Koufos, Price, and Almond. Memo, D Will, and C.J. are killing us right now. It's a waste of a good Milsap. Go figure.
genius fans | 8:38 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Anyone still think the Jazz are better without Boozer? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller. Bueller. That's what I thought. The Jazz are not better without Boozer as the 3 home losses to subpar teams have indicated. Haslem for Boozer? No comment, I would not take him over Millsap let alone Boozer. Playing through pain? Some injuries cannot be played through especially a quad. Jazz fans are unbelievable. The Jazz will still win their 50 games, right now they are not healthy. 12-8 with all these injuries is not an emergency situation. Go Jazz!
Miles | 8:42 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Hummmmm.....So according to you "Mo" everyone is horrible on this team except Milsap. I guess I didn't realize that Milsap was so good that he could single-handedly get us within 4 points of victory. I thought I saw 4 other guys playing with him? Guess not........Ok now for the rest of you fans. In the NBA, different nights, different players step up. One night a certian lineup works and the next night it doesn't work. The problem is that Sloan is too limited with being able to change up things as everyone is in the ER right now. Maybe last night Boozer would have carried us (oh wait he didn't play) OK last night AK should have carried us (oh you say he didn't play either) hummmm OK Brevin came off the bench to give us a lift (Oh him too) Ok well the ever dependable Harpring gave us 12 points off the bench (him too). With the lineup we have right now, we couldn't beat a JR.Jazz team.
Koufos | 8:42 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Needs to be on the court. the last 3 games when he's in the game our deficit goes down. When Sloan takes him out the other teams lead goes up. This rookie does have a huge impact on the game in a positive way. Its time to break from the norm. Memo appears slow and over weight.

With Koufos in the line up the opposing teams do not make all those easy layups in the paint. He physicaly does something about it. The kid has got quickness and length. Lets use it. We need it.
Dapper2k | 9:00 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
To concerned fan: Did you not read the article? Brewer answered your question. Dwill is playing and helping more than he's hurting us. Playing will actually strengthen the ankle and the chance of hurting it are no better then if it was healthy. Sure he could come down on someone's foot and reinjure it but that has nothing to do with it being injured now.

If the Jazz want to be a contender they can't give up winable games. Dwill knows that and is trying to make a diference.

You've posted the same comment over and over. We get it, we all know how you feel.
Mo | 9:29 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
@ Miles
Mo (more) Koufos, Price, and Almond was the intended verbage.Memo, D Will and our man C.J.(taking early bad shots not within the flow of the offense.) are hurting us the past few games. D Will is about 50%. Maybe let C.J. play back up point so we can keep pushing the ball up the floor.
What do you think?
Anonymous | 9:41 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
For the person calling his post Genuis Fans, maybe you need to show a little more intelligence on the fact that it is not only your beloved Boozer not playing that is causing us to lose. Also, what Genuis Fans needs to understand that without Boozer, we are missing Milsap's points and rebounds off the bench. Give the Jazz another Millsap type player to back him up and we would be winning these close games, even with all the other players playing injured or not playing at all.
jazzrule | 9:45 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Uhhhhhhhh Dapper2k - Did you read the article?Brewer said that maybe DWill needs to take another week off and get 100% well before coming back like Boozer is doing
total joke | 10:01 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
If we let Milsap get away after resigning Miles, that will be the biggest joke in history.If Miles had half the heart as Milsap does that kid would be an all star.C.J., stop throwing up jumpers and take the ball to the rim.Total waste of 16 million!!!
Scram! | 10:02 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Go back to New Orleans! You should be ashamed of yourselves!
BoOoO | 10:03 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
We had plenty of chances to get back in the game. Can't always blame everything on us being as hurt as we are. We were shooting horrible last night. Not too mention all the offensive rebounds we let them grab. We are still a very capable team, even with all the injuries. We just need guys to box out and hit shots.
L.A. Jazz Fan | 10:05 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
I haven't been able to watch the Jazz this year except for two early-season Clipper/Jazz contests (which were on local TV). It pains me to see the box scores and the losses; but right now I think the key is to not make snap decisions (I'm talking to fans who seem to have lost their grip on reality). None of the teams in the West except for the Lakers look like a contender at the moment. Portland has shown flashes; Denver has shown flashes; but it's not like they're unbeaten. As banged up as the Jazz are, they are right there with all the teams. Remember that this team was 16-16 last season late in December.

I think the best part of this difficult situation (trying to look at it positively) is that players that would not get much time (Almond, Koufos, etc.) are getting considerable experience playing against NBA quality opponents. This will pay off in the long run. If we let morons who get upset over every Jazz loss run this team (morons=some of the bloggers) the Jazz would become the laughing stock of the NBA. You don't panic and make stupid judgements with every loss. Go Jazz!!!
genius fans | 10:30 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
You just confirmed my point, no Boozer= no Millsap off the bench. How many more Millsap's and Boozer's are around anyway. You just totally fit the typical fan profile.
Mo 9:29 | 11:12 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
If you are so high on CJ lets look at him for a Min.

CJ has played in 20 games with 22 minutes per game.
He is scoring about 10 points per game making 82 baskets out of 174.

However, most of his shots are dunks. Shoot a three pointer and he is .33%, shoot a 15 footer who knows.

The reason the Jazz lost last night is Miami made the Jazz shoot from outside. Very few Dunks and layups. Mean while the Heat scored more points from out side. As one commentator stated someone needed to step up. Miles sure didn't he had a whole 7 points.
Jazz fan (genius fans guy) | 11:13 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
The Jazz had 3 glaring problems last night:

1-Lack of rebounding- Marion and Haslem ate them up, or tipped them out to their guards.

2-Terrible defense- Memo had 2 key fouls late in the game which were stupid fouls, one in which the shot clock was winding down and it gave Miami free throws.

3-Poor on the offense end- They looked stagnant, the zone really bothered them. They did not look like they had a lot of energy and of course turnover.

That is why they lost the game. D Will has a lot of heart, he is trying to help the team, he obviously is not 100%. Injuries have bit the Jazz. Thank you for your post concerned fan I agree with you, instead of fans dissing our players for injuries, let's understand they are part of the game and they are not sitting because they are pansies or have no heart but this is a physical game, and I would rather them sit for 10-15 games then lose them for the season. Jazz will be fine, they will get healthy. Last year we were under 18-18. We turned it around. GO JAZZ! 50 plus wins for sure.
Jazz Stink | 11:37 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
They will be gone in less than 5 years, mark my words.

Then maybe we can hold our swap meets at the ESA.
Miles | 11:43 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
MO I don't want CJ at the point right now. I want him on the wing running for dunks. Cj has plenty of heart. You can't just run at the basket for dunks. Until you hit some outside shots, the middle is clogged up. Keep shooting CJ. The problem isn't Cj's jumper. It is the lack of playing together as a team due to all the injuries. When this team is healthy, we have a deep deep bench. Right now the bench is having to carry the team instead of playing their roles.
Why | 11:47 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Stockton will go down in history as better than D-Will is that he never got hurt. Until his final season he may have missed ten games in 19 years.

So before all Jazz fans go from hopeful to disgusted with how the season will likely play out (another disappointing play-off finish), consider just how good Karl and John were. They were consistent and they were in on the court about every single game of their careers. The new Jazz may be talented but are injury prone and any player that sits on the bench in a suit and tie is useless, no matter how good his skill are...
bozo | 11:54 a.m. Dec. 4, 2008
maybe bozo will just move to miami and quite the jazz then we can sign his brother round as a ball lyde I bet in the jazz system he would get 20 and 10 and then ignorant fans might think he is an allstar. Heres to bozo sitting out the rest of the year.
re: Jazz stink | 12:02 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
"They will be gone in less than 5 years, mark my words." One of the winningest franchises year in and year out will be gone in 5 years. Ok that makes a lot of sense. I can see the headline now "Jazz meaningless loss at home to subpar heat causes the Jazz relocation to another city, fullfilling the words of a wise man on deseret news." Get a clue, I have no further comment.
CP3O | 12:06 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Now can you all finally see that the Jazz should have drafted Chris Paul and not D.Williams?
National opinion is that Paul is better than Williams. Only in Utah are the opinions 50/50.
Bad draft! - will haunt Jazz for years to come.
(by the way, I think D-Will is very good, just not in Paul's league)
re: L.A. Jazz Fan | 12:07 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Amen brother.
Remain Calm | 12:15 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
I cant believe all the "experts" on this post are writing the Jazz off. We had stretches worse than this as recent as last year and that was with Boozer, AK, and Dwill. Okur had real bad stretches last year. CJ will play himself out of the lineup if his game doesn't improve by the time the injured players are back. Sloan has had many players over the years that were given the chance in the first quarter of the season to start, and played themselves out of the lineup. There is nothing you can do about the injuries. I'm amazed at the number of people who think a guy is going to play injured as well as when he is healthy (and then these same fans will complain when they don't). Sloan would be an alarmist if the Jazz had a ten game winning streak, thats just his coaching style.
Where's Deron? | 12:51 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Is anybody else wondering where D-Will's leadership is? I am glad that he is playing - even though he is clearly hurting - but I would like to see a little more vocal leadership. Not just on the court, but also in the media. I know that the Jazz players already see him as a leader, but I think he can step it up a notch. I want to see him with a little more fire and emotion. I think the Jazz would benefit a great deal if D-Will would take a page out of Millsap's book. I think that is the key to the future success of the Jazz. The young players seem to feed off of that...just my opinion.
Jazz rant | 1:05 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
At this rate, Almond will be replacing CJ in the line up despite Miles' posts about how great CJ is....Memo has really stunk it up when he was sorely needed these past two games. We need more Jazz players who play with the heart that D-will and Milsap play with every night. We had one in Fisher but we let him go. We have one in Price but he's just not a good point guard. Harpring, injured..It's hard to watch pampered millionaires who show no passion for their work!! I also think Jerry got out coached by a pup on the other bench. After the first quarter, we couldn't consistently do anything against their D-fense. Maybe we need a different assistant coach/some new blood to come in teach a new philosophy on defense. Boston did it.....why not us? I don't see us getting better on D. But you know we are the STATUS QUO state of the NBA!!
Mo | 1:08 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
@ 11.12

I never stated anything about being so high on C.J. however : What is wrong with 10 pts. on 48+% shooting in 22 mins.? Who cares if they are 3 pointers, dunks or in between?


risky | 1:20 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Everyone got spoiled with Malone and Stockton. They were the most resilient players in the history of the league.....probably in the history of pro sports. You will never see that again because no other team has ever seen it.

By the way, Sloan also said that Stockton set more (and better) screens than any guard.....ever. Watch the old video.

Those two guys were extremely tough but you also have to be lucky to go that long without, at least, twisting an ankle.
Miles | 1:38 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Jazz Rant.....Hold on I can't stop laughing to type..............OK Almond for CJ? That should make us a better team!!! CJ has been nothing but good for this team. Almond,well, not wasting my words on him. Miles does the most with his minutes. It's amazing that his stats are as good as Brewer's but you all hate on Miles. Who gave up the most points last night, Brewer!! What do you expect from Miles when he is playing with a bunch of scrubs? Hard to score when your teammates can't set screens or stop anyone of defense. We are as soft as butter.
Miles | 1:40 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Jazz Rant: What happened to your buddy Korver? He should be scoring 25 a night with this lineup. Oh I forgot, you only stand by your man when he is playing well!!
STEVE-O | 2:13 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
I remember watching Stockton twist his ankle so bad I could hardly watch the replay on T.V. I was sure he'd be out at least a month. And then 10 minutes later he came out of the back with a heavily taped ankle and not only played... but led the Jazz back to win the game! He didn't miss a game, or even a quarter with a badly sprained ankle.

I admit that it takes a special competator to grit it out like that, and I don't blame Williams, AK, or Boozer for sitting out with legit injuries. We just don't have any of those truly tough players left. It's just the way the league is now.
Hoosier Jazz fan | 2:17 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Ummmmm. So whats an Ice pick war, in or outside of the locker room? Never been in one, but apparently sloan is a veteran of one or two. I'm sure all of his young, wealthy, technology driven youngsters can relate to all of the Jerryisms.
Jumbo Slice | 2:25 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Yazz are pathetic...hope you Yewt fans are enjoying it.
Jumbo Slice | 2:36 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Jazz = Myopia
Re: crowtonlover | 3:02 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
From: Ho Hum

My point, my friend is made by your other friends who are posting their musings, and are apparently getting to you.....I am only trying to set it straight with the real Jazz fans....not to appease or gloss over all the ongoing problems the Jazz organization has. Most of my postings are being screened out by 'Joe' the anti-negativity censor at DMN censor office, so you regular readers cannot see where I am really coming from. This posting will undoubtably be trashed as well....we'll see. The Jazz, as I have previously indicated, are out of business; and anyone who is not looking through rose colored glasses....are just kidding themselves. Korver, Millsap, and all of the other backups are just that....backups. They cannot be expected to compete with any of the other .500 plus, or near .500 teams. The Jazz are a 'B' team currently, and are not keeping up with the 'Jones'es' around the league. This league is strictly a 'Have Gun Will Travel' league. It is all about the haves and have nots. New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago are the main cities, and these cities need to dominate the league because of TV.

GET/USED/TO/IT/PEOPLE
Shat | 3:18 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
I think Deron could compete, but he needs to pass first. His arms still work and he sees the floor as well as AK, he just needs to get the team in its offense to get results. Deron does not need to be 100% to use the majority of his skills, the others can get into the post and drive/kick while he is healing. Deron needs to be the general and not worry about dunking right now.

If we have to play a scoring point, they should let Brewer or Miles cover them so we can lock them down better.
Jazz Rant @ Miles | 4:19 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Miles thanks for taking the Almond bait..it's so easy to get to you!!..your love for CJ is unquestioned in my eyes!!...Jerry on the other hand didn't love Miles effort on the glass. Almond is starting to do the little things that will get him more playing time especially now that Miles thinks he is a star in this league and he doesn't have to rebound/play defense. P.S. don't you think Korver's shot/wrist injury is gettting better cause he is pumping in the 3's as of late? who do you think would win in a 3 pt contest between Korver and Miles?
The reason | 4:53 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
We are losing because AK is not playing. We miss having another passer on floor and especially a tall passer who can see over most of the defense. We are missing all his stats he brings--steals, tips, and deflections all result in several more possessions and higher % shots for his team mates. How much did we lose by? AK's stats easily make up the margin if he is on the floor.

AK makes other players around him better. Boozer does not. Boozer is a good offensive presence in the post and a liability every where else on the floor.

If Boozer was the only injury on this team we would be still winning at least 2 out of every 3 games and likely more. Millsap is averaging a double double in his starts (just 6-8 points less than Booz) BUT he is stopping/defending TWICE (at least) what Boozer does. Net pickup with Millsap.

Also Deron is still injured with his hip flexor AND his ankle issues. This compounds the need to get AK back.

All these injuries are sure frustrating for players, coaches, and the fans to have to deal with the when there was such high expectations.
Dont Worry guys | 6:37 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
The jazz will rally back strong to finish out the year. Yes I think we can all count on them to be slightly above the mediocrity. They will barely miss a top three seed. And barely loose to a contender in the play offs. But as long as they are a semi-good team we will be content. Who wants a title?
Miles | 6:38 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
A 3 point contest Korver would win. But who makes 3 pointers when being defended? Questionable who would win. CJ most likely.
Are Sea | 6:43 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Why is it that everytime the Spazz lose it is cause so and so was hurt....all it is an excuse and there is no reason for it.....i hope they keep losing the Laura Miller will finally see his Spazz need a new coach.....it is time for a change...
Mo | 7:45 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Would like to see a 3 pt. contest between Korver, C.J., and Almond.
Several | 10:29 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Problems but none of them are worth panic. The PG play is poor. DWill just can't do what he wants and needs to do. He tires hard and his health will improve with time. Price gets too deep (below the free throw line) before he makes decisions. That fouls up the offense and forces him into taking shots he should not. Knight is hurt but hopefully that fixes pretty quick.

Memo has had some great games and some poor ones. He does what he can and he did play hurt last year. CJ is still developing. Almond is young and inexperienced but improving fast. Ditto for Koufos. Some match ups are good for them and some aren't.

SAP is a horse but even he gets some difficult match ups. The fact that the Jazz are playing .500 ball with this line up is amazing. They are not bad players just very inexperienced or banged up. Korver, Brewer, Memo etc. can't hit shots if they do not get the right passes in the right place at the right time. That also causes turnovers. Further, no one can play well if the offense is not being executed right.


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