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Real Salt Lake announces 11 protected players
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Nazdar | 1:42 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
Who says the off season is boring? I am not surprised by who is on the list. It
is a nice problem to have so many good players that you can't protect them
all. Maybe Seattle will take Horst. Thanks for posting this so quickly.
francesco | 1:46 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
i like the players that are protected but certainly there is a risk that rimando
could be picked up as a very dependable back up to keller in seattle. also a
vet like andy williams could be a good addition for seattle but hopefully the
fact that he is older will keep seattle from taking him. i wouldn't be
surprised to see the sounders take deuchar making him a good striking partner up
top with freddie lundjberg.
francesco | 1:51 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
what about ian joy? he would be one of the unprotected players as well.
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Mathis Hater | 2:07 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
Seattle doesn't need Rimando, they already signed a goaltender so he's
safe. I don't think they would want Williams because of his family
situation and national team responsibilities. So I think they should get
Mathis. They need veteran (ha ha) leadership (ha ha). RSL, just do anything to
get Mathis out of here and give his minutes to Espindola or Russell...please!
Anonymous | 2:19 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
My only knock on protecting sturgis is the kid seems to be made of glass. When
he is healthy, he is outstanding
Thank goodness | 2:29 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
We didnt put mathis on the protected players list.. Whew i was thinking they
would. Well thanks for all the great years you have given us andy! And its about
time cutler got released.
jdog | 2:43 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
francesco, Seattle can't afford a backup GK that makes what Rimando makes.
He costs about twice what a backup GK should cost. So if Seattle takes Rimando,
it won't be with the intent of keeping him.
But Hater, they may still take Rimando to use as trade bait.
But I agree - I'm pleasantly surprised that RSL didn't protect Mathis.
But Hater, they may still take Rimando to use as trade bait.
But I agree - I'm pleasantly surprised that RSL didn't protect Mathis.
Rob | 2:52 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
Agreed williams is gone. I bet deuchar will get picked up as well. No rimando on
the protected players list? Wow thats surprising!
Someone is wrong | 3:05 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
The official team blog has rimando protected and sturgis left off the protected
list. Which is correct? The team blog also reported that joy, tennelle,
reiman, reynish, and nunez were also unprotected.
I wonder | 3:05 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
why we left Deuchar unprotected? Why not Wingert? He wasn't that good. Oh
well I'm praying Seattle takes Dema for us. Please Seattle, do us a solid
and take Dema. I wouldn't be upset if they took Rimando. I doubt we would
trade for him. I think next year they'll finally go to Seitz.
Thanks for putting this story up | 3:08 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
I've been wondering about this since our loss. I'm excited the only
person I wonder why we didn't protect is Dr Goals? Oh well
Anonymous | 3:30 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
It is simple Dr. Goals never played and Wingert did!!!
Anonymous | 3:37 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
RSL did a great job selecting. Every possible person Seattle could take will
either not have been a starter or there is a great back up to take his place.
Rimando leaves Sietz is there. Mathis, well should I even put that one down.
Andy Williams not even a starter but Sturgis could fill in nicely for him to
come off of the bench. Dr Goals with Espindola back wouldn't play much
anyway. On and on down the list. I would really like to see Williams and
Rimando stick around but if they take one of those guys we'll just have to
do with out.
RSL | 3:41 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
I would have liked to see Rimando protected. He has played really well for Real
and I think deserves to stay (even though Seitz is the future).
Poqui | 3:58 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
Rimando is now protected. Mr. Glass Hamstrings is no longer protected. I like
that better.
Guhh | 4:05 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
I like Rimando but as long as he's here Seitz will continue to sit. I
thought we were going for a long term plan and long term Rimando isn't the
answer. He is like when NFL teams have Jeff Garcia or Kurt Warner as their
starter. Yeah they do a good job but at what cost. Seitz will be a lot better
RSL ULty fan | 4:15 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
Good choices on the protected list. I really like Dr. Goal, but he fits in
another sytem where they will utilize his ability to win in the air. Dr. Goal
did more than any realizes though. As for Mathis, I think he worked very hard
and did make a difference on the pitch. I would, however, take Espindola over
Mathis. Can't wait for next season. I hope Any Williams comes back.
as;lds | 4:34 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
aren't you scared of losing williams!?
i love him. i have much much respect for him.
i love him. i have much much respect for him.
Enrique | 5:28 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
I'm nervous about losing Sturgis. I know he's fragile, but when
healthy he's a steady starter. I would have rather left Rimando
unprotected, giving Seitz a chance to step in. I'd also hate to see
Williams go. Hopefully they take Dr. No Goals.
if.... | 6:02 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
seattle has any brains they take andy. I'm super bummed Kreis thinks better
of wingert than williams. Hopefully they pick up Mathis or Kovalenko cause
I'm pretty sure they can only take one player from each team. If seattle
takes anyone from our team over williams they are up in the night...
If they do take him, I'm going to be really dissappointed, he was one of the funnest players on the team to watch, Javi is going to miss having his creativity and ball skills on the field to partner with.
If they do take him, I'm going to be really dissappointed, he was one of the funnest players on the team to watch, Javi is going to miss having his creativity and ball skills on the field to partner with.
wanaku | 6:17 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
espindola and deuchar were by far the best forward combination, when both were
healthy. deuchar brings a dimension to the team that rsl has never had.
unfortunately, the team doesn't have a player who is able to consistently
put a cross on target, so his goal scoring has been limited. hopefully he
sticks with the team and they can figure out how to use him (a top line with
deuchar, espindola, and movsisyan would be interesting to see).
Anonymous | 6:39 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
I'm also glad they didn't protect Matthis, but doubt Seattle will take
him because he's pretty useless. They would take Deuchar before Matthis.
Agreed, please please take Dema. He plays wing and can't cross the ball,
go figure. He's truly a defensive mid, and so is Beckerman, so why have
him around. Thank goodness they protected Espindola, they need at least one
forward who can finish almost anything. Lastly, I hope like hell we keep
Williams, he's the most unhearalded player on the team. Morales and co are
usually the beneficiaries off something Williams set up. Why he only played 20
minutes in the conference championship game is beyond me. Williams 20 minutes,
Matthis 90 minutes = RSL loss.
RSL'S biggest fan | 6:44 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
why did you put Andy Williams on the unprtected list im mean he is a good player
and a good guy but without him our team wouldnt do that good without him and ian
joy he is a good player also and they both are good influences to children and
our team will be nowhere without those two.........
RSL'S biggest fan | 6:46 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
im very nervous about losing williams and ian joy
Full90 | 6:59 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
Is there any way the DesNews could do a series of articles on Mathis'
massive contribution to the team, perhaps even pegging him as the reason for our
late run into the playoffs, in order to talk his value up? Then each of us could
drop 10 posts detailing Mathis' phenomenal work rate, bone-crunching
tackling, ability to win balls in the air, etc. Let's just make a deal
between us to give Mathis, say, 10 goals and 8 assists last year for RSL. Then
we hope Drew Carrey doesn't really check the MLS Web site and just beleives
the buzz.
At the same time, let's keep repeating the message about how Sturgis is crocked and useless at age 21, and how his first touch has gone to seed.
This is how markets get moved.
At the same time, let's keep repeating the message about how Sturgis is crocked and useless at age 21, and how his first touch has gone to seed.
This is how markets get moved.
Rimando? | 8:02 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
What list were you guys reading? Rimando is protected and of course your going
to protect wingert who was a steady defender and attacker out of the back which
is extremely rare in the MLS but a absolute must on the international scene.
Williams is great but it was obvious he was not Jason's favorite player.
mister sandwich | 8:40 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
even though williams is the sentimental favorite, this is an on the field
decision for moving forward and I think its a good one. andy is getting older
and they HAD to pick 3 internationals to leave unprotected and to let morales,
olave, espindola, johnson or movsisyan go unprotected would be nuts.
i feel they they needed to leave rimando unprotected. seattle has casey keller and they wouldnt have touched him. this would have allowed us maybe to protect andy or someone else. seitz is the future if we can keep him away from england.
all in all i think this was a decent list.....
i feel they they needed to leave rimando unprotected. seattle has casey keller and they wouldnt have touched him. this would have allowed us maybe to protect andy or someone else. seitz is the future if we can keep him away from england.
all in all i think this was a decent list.....
Big Rock | 10:17 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
Many of you sound like you don't quite understand the rules here. We
didn't just waive these guys, Seattle can possibly take one - only one.
They might not take any. The rest are still on the team, so we can't lose
Williams and Joy (RSL Biggest Fan). Also, if a player is selected, he still
might get traded to another team or even back to us (remember Jason Kreis a few
years back?). A deal may already be struck with that in mind.
Duechars gone | 11:52 p.m. Nov. 24, 2008
Duechars will be gone. People love big target forwards. If nothing else they
will take him to trade. I imagine the Seattle phone is already ringing with
someone scheming for Duechars. Don't worry Williams is going nowhere. I
love the guy, but teams don't trade for a guy like Williams. They want
youth, potential goal scorers, and physically imposing players.
Deuchar, not Deuchars | 1:10 a.m. Nov. 25, 2008
Why do people always put an -s at the end of Deuchar's name? It drives me
crazy.
Anywho, I think RSL made the right decisions. I'm with those that think it would be best for the team if Seattle took Kovalenko. Even though he is a tough player and someone you hate to see go, it will be nice to get rid of his contract.
Anywho, I think RSL made the right decisions. I'm with those that think it would be best for the team if Seattle took Kovalenko. Even though he is a tough player and someone you hate to see go, it will be nice to get rid of his contract.
mathis haters? | 5:47 a.m. Nov. 25, 2008
i have to wonder if any one in this forum actually plays or understands the
game. mathis is a complete soccer player. he has his share of attitude and
disciplinary problems but he is a true skill player that real needs to keep. how
many times do you see real salt lake players fumbling passes, losing their
dribble, unable to give a decent trop, or even trap the ball for that matter. it
is laughable at times to see the lack of skill at this level. mathis
doesn't score but that is not why he is there. he organizes the attack and
sees the entire field. he is a difference maker. if he were in better shape and
didn't have the disciplinary problems he would probably have been one of
the premiere american soccer players to play the game. that being said he still
has a lot of potential and value. i can think of a number of players we could
stand to lose. mathis is not one of them.
Anonymous | 7:29 a.m. Nov. 25, 2008
The reason everyone hates Mathis is because when Real started he was supposed to
be the savior of the team. The team wasn't good and Mathis was and is
still blamed. People can't see what he brings to the game because they
don't understand it enough. Why else would Kreis put him out there? Do
you think he doesn't care enough about his job that he will put someone out
there because they are friends even if that player is terrible? Gimme a break.
If Seattle takes | 11:47 a.m. Nov. 25, 2008
either of the following players I will hate them forever:
Mathis (probably my favorite American soccer player of all time)
Deuchar (he will be crazy good next year)
and I'll be upset if they take Andy Williams but I'll get over it. Unless we trade a draft pick to get him back. Then I'll hate them forever. The crazy thing is I hate more soccer teams than I do NBA teams and there are a lot less MLS teams. I'm really hoping they take Dema. Please Seattle.
Mathis (probably my favorite American soccer player of all time)
Deuchar (he will be crazy good next year)
and I'll be upset if they take Andy Williams but I'll get over it. Unless we trade a draft pick to get him back. Then I'll hate them forever. The crazy thing is I hate more soccer teams than I do NBA teams and there are a lot less MLS teams. I'm really hoping they take Dema. Please Seattle.
mathis | 11:55 a.m. Nov. 25, 2008
i hope mathis can help us out next year, i really do. he probably doesnt deserve
all the criticism he gets, he does have skill, but as a striker, you have to
score goals. I dont think its unfair to expect that. all of you out there saying
'well you just dont understand the game' would you please explain to
me how it is acceptable for a striker not to score goals?
Joy, not Dchr or Andy, will go | 11:56 a.m. Nov. 25, 2008
The fix is in for Nate Jaqua in Seattle, and they won't need the poor
man's Jaqua.
Plus, Seattle will also have Ljungberg, Nyassi (NE player's brother) and their USL MVP Sebastien le Toux in attack in addition to Jaqua. That's a lot of attack and no defense.
And since there aren't that many Ds in the draft who can give you good minutes, many of the predictions I've seen have them taking Joy, and I'm inclined to agree.
Plus, Seattle will also have Ljungberg, Nyassi (NE player's brother) and their USL MVP Sebastien le Toux in attack in addition to Jaqua. That's a lot of attack and no defense.
And since there aren't that many Ds in the draft who can give you good minutes, many of the predictions I've seen have them taking Joy, and I'm inclined to agree.
Mathis | 1:08 p.m. Nov. 25, 2008
Mathis was listed as a forward, not a striker. He plays forward of the mids,
but behind the striker, Yura. It is essentially a 4-4-1-1, with mathis diagonal
of Javi and Yura.
At least that is what I saw.
At least that is what I saw.
Re:Mathis | 3:59 p.m. Nov. 25, 2008
Great observation. It seems like most people that are on here a lot think all
teams play a 4-4-2 all the time. Really Javi is more of a striker than Mathis
even though Mathis is a forward and Morales is a Midfielder. Think of Mathis as
more of a CAM, he is a playmaker and distributor than a "striker".
I've already posted in other comments how much of an effect Mathis has had
on our scoring. Just from what I remember we only had like 2 games with more
than 1 goal and a negative GDF and after we had Mathis we had like 4 or 5 games
with more than 2 goals and a positive GDF. But he didn't score the goals or
get the assists? Yeah but our TEAM started scoring more. Sometimes stats
don't tell the whole story.
Correction | 4:00 p.m. Nov. 25, 2008
only 2 games that we score more than 2 goals before we had Mathis
Man U strikers | 6:04 p.m. Nov. 25, 2008
Man U, Chelsea or Liverpool would get rid of any striker who played 12 games
with no goals and no assists. Perhaps they don't understand soccer
either?
Forwards score, set up scores, or they are gone. And! They are expected to have all the "intangibles" Mathis has also. It's not either or. A defensive mid can have just "intangibles". Perhaps that's where Mathis should be playing as a backup for Beckerman.
Forwards score, set up scores, or they are gone. And! They are expected to have all the "intangibles" Mathis has also. It's not either or. A defensive mid can have just "intangibles". Perhaps that's where Mathis should be playing as a backup for Beckerman.
Rio Tinto Guy re: Mathis haters? | 2:28 a.m. Nov. 26, 2008
I saw 4 of the last 6 RSL games, wasn't able to catch much of the season
before then. In the games that I saw, the play seemed to be flowing through
Morales, not Mathis. Morales' vision leading to penetrating passes in the
final third was amazing. His creativity is what will take RSL to the next level
next year.
JOY IS GONE | 8:50 a.m. Nov. 26, 2008
I think it is great that we saved Nick Rimando. KC is going to lose there keeper
because LA needs a keeper so Seattle will take Hartman and trade him to LA. Dema
or Joy is gone I think
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