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LDS Church urges pro-Proposition 8 calls

...and I'm going to follow the counsel of my leaders. NOT because they're forcing me, but because it feels right.

It's troubling to see the LDS church take a risky gamble like this and blur the boundry between church and government. The stakes are pretty high. I wonder if its worth it to take such a risky gamble?

Prop 8 is going down. These efforts are a big waste of time.

Paperboy, I would say that the risky gamble is doing nothing. Want to save the economy? Protect the family. Want to reduce crime? Protect the family. Want to improve quality of life? Protect the family.

The outcome of Prop 8 will have a greater effect on our futures than the outcome of the presidential election.

"Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets."

Me and my partner despise all you people who vote against our rights to be together. Strait people will all pay. Some day it will be people like us who will own America.

I am grateful for leaders who guide us in decisions that are for the good of everyone in this country.
I am glad they have the courage to speak out in favor of or against things that effect all of us.

I really wish they would give more direction. I would be happy if they would tell me who is the lesser of two evils between Obama and McCain. I can't stand the thought of either of these two being President.

There is a misconception about the separation of Church and State. The separation only applies to the State. That is,the State cannot require Church membership or have control of the Church. (See England.) The Church, on the other hand, has a constitutional right to expression on political and social issues.

Michael - My friends Dan and Mark have had a lasting relationship for nearly 20 years. For some time, the laws of California granted them all the protections of marriage without calling it so until the recent court decision which simply said it can be called marriage. Nothing else changed. Only the label.

Now, explain to me how changing the label of their relationship will cause the disintegration of your family?

I am going to OPPOSE the "counsel" of my leaders, because they have no concept of individual liberty and the horrible tyranny that religious zealotry imposes on minority groups! You would have thought they would have learned a lesson from the religious persecution of our history.

Vote NO on Proposition 8!

Politely refuse to participate in forcing our moral beliefs down the throats of others and exploiting the amendment process to do so!

Just Say No!

At the root of this power play is the Gaystopo. The domestic partnership laws in California already give any two people to register their relationship and have full legal rights. They can do a ceremony with that or not.

Being able to put the word marriage on they're already legal arrangement gives them leverage to force their beliefs on others. No "hate" speech from a pulpit for instance.

This is a further power grab from the same folks who get a lions share of research money for AIDS when other more widely spread diseases get little.

It's not about rights, but consolidating the power grab.

Looks like many people choose to follow the council of their political parties over church leaders inspired by God. I refuse to be Republican or Democrat. Both parties have too many ideas that are contrary to gospel teachings. America is divided! What ever happened to the constitution and 1 one nation under God? I am ashamed of the amount of disrespect and apostate beliefs by church members here.

The Church's support of Proposition 8 is an offense to freedom-loving peoples everywhere. It is an affront to democracy. It is a step backward into the Dark Ages where religious authority ruled and ruined the lives of billions. It is an echo of the Nazi fascism of the 1930s, who used Christian theologians and philosophers to generate sophisticated propaganda against gays and lesbians as well as Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, and many other unpopular groups that did not march lockstep with the Nazi ideology. This is no different. I wonder if we will see a renaissance of the "toothbrush mustache" in Salt Lake City and Church Headquarters? In fact, that's a way to show your public support for Proposition 8: wear a "toothbrush mustache" if you support Proposition 8! We would love to see your fascism displayed in all its glory!

Bigotry from an individual or an organization is so sad and wrong.
One day they'll figure it out and be ashamed for their actions.

I think the LDS Church is awakening a sleeping giant: a population of people, both gay and hetero, who see the atrocity of this move and will despise the LDS Church and other religious fanatics for this foolish attempt to restrict the liberties of others. I am LDS. I am appalled by this attempt to force gays and lesbians to abide by our beliefs. Let them worship how, where, or what they may and allow us the same privilege! What ever happened to that? The Church is way off base here.

Okay, here's how I think. I think that what two consenting adults do behind closed doors is none of my business. It's not my duty to stand as their judge. The Lord loves them just as much as he does any of us. However, that doesn't mean I condone or agree with what they do. I'm not from California; I'm actually from Washington (going to BYU), but it's only a matter of time before other states follow suit. I do not want my children to learn about "alternative lifestyles" and how the relationship between two men or two women is the same as the one I have with their mother, because it's not, and accepting it as such will only contribute to the downhill decline of American society. I'll draw a lot of ire for saying that, I know. I can't deny, though, that the people I've seen most successful in my personal encounters have been those raised in a loving home by two parents, a mother and a father, still married living at home. Forget all this new-age liberal stuff. If we go back to traditional, conservative values, including traditional families, society will improve so much. Mark my words.

I love the LDS church. It has the brass to stand up for what is right. I applaud the LDS people who are involved in trying to thwart the advance of gay marriage and other immoral nonsense.

I'm a California voter, and we did the phone calling last time this proposition was on the ballot, and it passed 60-40. Thanks, though, for offering to help wtih the phone calls, in case we need that extra help.

The Bible says mariage is between a man and a woman.
You are the extremist here. The LDS church teaches to love gay people. Not hate them. You are in the wrong here. And your bitter hate is greater than any one elses blog here. Stop hating.

I understand marriage is worthy of defense. I am not especially pro allowing gays to marry, personally I think that they have all the benefits now.

However I fail to see the logic of how allowing them to marry is an assult on marriage. Will someone please explain this? How will allowing gays to marry affect my (or your) marriage?

This has nothing to do with the establishment clause but rather tax law. The LDS Church is jeopardizing its tax-exempt status with overt political actions such as this.