Pioneer Days is like holding a community event on the Fourth where only republicans would feel welcomed. Utah, isn't just Mormons any longer.

Most communities have some sort of founders day celebration: Anonymous 1:10 simply doesnt like the Utah version - but that is indicative of his own intolerance - not theirs. The annual anti-Mormon bash fest is tedious

Get over it:

Non-Mormons (or Gentiles as you like to call them) are growing and growing in numbers and will no longer sit still for any backwards, backwoods theocracy.

Get used to it.

I'm not LDS and never will be, but all Utah residents should enjoy the day. We do St. Patrick's Day stuff. We should be doing Cinco de mayo, Kwanzaa, etc. It's all part of life.

And, like it or not, we in Utah do enjoy a good life, to some degree.

I like the day because my company gives employees a holiday with pay!

Loving Utah . . .

What you've built is the state with the most bitter religious divide in the entire nation--bar none. Wear it with pride, all Utahns have earned it.

Yes, things are quite different from how they were for the Pioneers. Not necessarily worse. Some of these changes the pioneers probably would have resisted, but today we see these changes were benign or even good.

Maybe we should use that example of how we today, like the pioneers, don’t understand that change can be good and beneficial.

Perhaps if we spent less time worrying about things changing toward something we have never had or thought about, we could see maybe society won’t fall apart, but could benefit from change.

The smartest of Mormon pioneers kept going west and found that California was The Best Place.

“1:10 simply doesn’t like the Utah version - but that is indicative of his own intolerance - not theirs.”

My family knew JS. JS married one ancestor and was sealed to two others. My family entered Utah in 1847. I don’t hate my family and being raised Mormon gave me, if anything, more compassion for others. My family suffered because they weren’t included in the larger community. They were a minority. This made them easy to single out.

In the depth of your self pity, you apparently won’t receptive to my ideas, which is fine.

In my humble view, it’s time to view the pioneering experience, as something that doesn’t divide Mormons from the rest of Americans but, as something that sows Mormons in to this vast patchwork quilt that is America today.

Holidays; like the Fourth of July, Thanksgiving and others help unite our great nation by a common tread. Why not use the pioneering character that forged America as an opportunity to untie communities in Utah?

Feel free to point out the error of this thought.

Some of the ancestors of the Pioneers of '47 in Utah are absolutely NOTHING like the original guys.

Far too many in this valley today are full-blown jerks.

Sorry, but that's the general perception.

It is Pioneer Day not Pioneer Days.

no longer going to sit still
and not like their ancestors

Thanks for your example of "tolerance" (and proving my point)

It doesnt matter who is in the majority - it is a founders day celebration. Why cant you just enjoy the holiday and cut the venom?

Honestly people, I dont think wether or not the ansectors of the early pioneers are "full-blown jerks" is really relevant here. Pioneer Day is a time to reflect on the sacrifices of the early settelers and enjoy some time with family and friends, even if you arent LDS. And to tell you the truth, I have to agree with the above, if you are really offended thats your problem. Stay home and wallow while the rest of us enjoy the holiday.