What Beck needs is Jonny Harline to join him in Miami! GO COUGS! BCS or bust in 2008!!!

Most BYU fans would love to see Beck succeed but one has to believe if he doesn't produce this season he will be riding the beach as a backup the rest of his NFL career. This Cougar fan wishes that Beck was in a situation like Alex Smith in SF with Mike Martz. Beck is so much better than Smith in so many ways. He just wasn't drafted in the right season and is with the wrong team. Maybe the big tuna will have faith in him and let us all see how great this kid can be.

You are right on the money, I can't believe these NFL scouts aren't smart enough to figure out that the more BYU players you have on a team, the better your team is. They should get every cougar available. Now that's a recipe for success. Then they could win the national championship in 1984 too. The fact that Alex Smith is 10 times the athlete John Beck will ever be, probably had nothing to do with him going #1.

If John doesn't get the chance to shine at Miami and they end up shipping him out, I am pretty confident he will succeed wherever he ends up. He's obviously a very hard working guy and determined to succeed, and I believe he will.

Why is Alex Smith's name appearing in a comment about John Beck? There was a reason Smith was drafted number one and Beck went in the second round.

You arn't going to a BCS game again this season. Even if you win every game (you won't). You in the wrong conference they don't have to invite you and you don't bring in enough money if they do invite you.

as evidenced by his crying in the locker room. He was no good last year and I'd be surprised if he even gets a chance to prove himself this year. He will never amount to anything in the NFL.

Thank you for your sage words and for setting the record straight that BYU wouldn't get a BCS invite after HAWAII got one last year with their cupcake schedule and off-mainland fanbase. Fantastic critical thinking.

Are you kidding me? Alex Smith is awful. Huge letdown as a #1 pick. On Beck the jury is still out, but don't go telling me that Alex Smith is a good NFL player and worht the #1 pick. haha. Next you're going to tell me that Andrew Bogut deserved to be the #1 pick!!

To Sorry BYU Fans: if we win every game we will be in the BCS, and we have a lot more fans, especially fans who travel, than most of the BCS schools.

I've been a Dolphin fan since 1968 through all of their ups and downs. Now that they like seven LDS players on their team, and since Utah doesn't have our own pro football team, we should adopt the Dolphins as Utah's proxy team. A win by Miami is a win for Utah! Go Dolphins and John Beck!

Alex Smith is not that great of an athlete. He was simply in the right place at the right time and was #1 because Matt Leinart ended up staying at USC for another year. Had Leinart come out Smith would have dropped like a rock in the draft. He has been horrible at SF and and when he is benched this year will never start in the NFL again - bet on it. John will struggle early like he did at the Y and will be the better player between the two long term. Speaking of QB's in the NFL - how many has the Y had and can you name another one other than Smith?

I would like to see both (Smith and Beck) do well this year. But regardless, the 49ers should be the better team.

You make no sense at all. First of all, BYU has never gone to a BCS game, so how can they go to a BCS game "again" this season. Secondly, if BYU does win every game they will go to a BCS game. Thirdly, BYU does bring in a lot of money because their fans travel so well and many bowls would love to have BYU and its loyal fans attend.

GO COUGS!

He will have a Hall of Fame career. Mark my words.

Name one way in which Beck is better than Smith.
3 fumbles over the course of 5 plays is NOT a good thing so don't try and spin that as a possitive.

Beck is the real deal and will prove it this season with the fish. He is the best QB to come out of Utah in the past 10 yrs. Now before you Utah fans pounce on me about Smith hear me out; Smith was in an offense that inflated his numbers while John was a consistant producer and played for a better pro like offense than the 2004 Utah team. Alex Smith is a nice guy if the misled youth need to have someone to go bowling with but Beck is better and within two years Smith will be out of the NFL.

Alex Smith shouldn't even be mentioned here. But Beck and Smith haven't had a fair shot really. They both have horrible offensive lines to work with. To judge Smith and Beck isn't proper. They are doing what they can under very trying circumstances. Some people have to make everything a BYU, U of U thing which is plain stupid. It is hard to believe the naitivity of some of these posts. Wake up folks.

That had to be rough, driving around and seeing all those I-15 signs!

There was Scott Mitchell, who started out with the Miami Dolphins and played several years with the Detroit Lions. He was probably better than Alex Smith.

Doing grad school in Miami I watched Beck up close last year. I wanted Beck to do well, to reflect well on the MWC because down here in SEC/ACC territory, there is no respect at all!! But Beck was awful, 8 turnovers and 1 touchdown pass. True there was no line, no real recievers, but there were alot of teams with no line and no recievers that won more than one game. The issue with Beck began on draft day when the Dolphins passed on Brady Quinn in the first round, and got Beck in the second. The public thinks that Quinn is so much better than Beck.(I don't) But with Beck's turnovers, and not leading the team to a single victory, the local meadia killed him. (and the rest of team) It won't be easier this year, even with Jake Long, the O-line isn't anything special, and with out a decent reciver, look for a lot of Ronnie Brown and Ricky williams.
There is hope though, if Beck can win the starting job, win 4-6 games, then he can be the next Marino. Most situations in the NFL aren't fair, and nobody cares. Beck must make this happen.

To understand why BYU WILL go to the BCS If they go undefeated is really simple.

The BCS is a scam. It is pretty much a solid violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890. The only way that the BCS can keep Congress and the courts off their back is that any non-BCS team that goes undefeated will play in a BCS game. That could be BYU, Hawaii, UTEP, Utah State, doesn't matter. The moment an undefeated team isn't invited and all BCS slots go to BCS teams the gig is up.

The real advantage that Beck will have over Smith this year is The Big Tuna. Parcell realizes that the game is won or lost in the trenches. Everywhere he goes the first thing he does is beef up the offensive line. He takes a bunch of veteran journeyman and always gets more out of them than they are worth. Once he has the O-line outperforming their resume, everything else will improve.

Once the offense can sustain long drives, the defense gets a rest the defense will even improve. They may not win a Super Bowl but they will improve. And Beck is the beneficiary of this.

the former Toro will come through and do well. It's good to see the QB's from Mtn View do well wherever they go.

Class of '82

Beck will develop with time. It is asking a lot to throw a rookie QB into the end of a bad season and ask him to lead the worst team in the NFL.

Even if Beck does not get the starting job, he will compare well with whoever is QB for that team. Beck gets some national press. It is not all negative. There are questions about if he is ready. Most people recognize that he has talent.

Beck showed emotion in the locker room. Great to have some personal investment in your school. After smashing the ewe, they were the ones who were crying. Smith left his school early without a tear and has been a flop. As in "no good."

Try Henne playing by week 3 and Beck sits there with the clip board in one hand and a tissue in the other hand whipping the tears away from his face; crying once again!

The magic number is 1:
The number of times Beck beat Utah in 4 attempts!
The number of times Beck won a bowl game in four years!
The number of winning seasons in four years!
The NUMBER OF TIMES BECK CRIED ON TV!!!!!!!

What do you expect from a QB that fails in big games!! 1-3 versus your rival; isn't the rival game in where a player is suppose to shine?

How much is Beck's contract worth with the Dolphins?

For cryin out loud. Who gives a crap. Brett Favre cries and nobody says anything.

If i could i would hobble alex smith...he is a disgrace to the national football league! what a joke of a player and now thanks to alexis and bogut the bust you have every professional franchise stearing as far away from your athletes as possible!! what busts! pathetic pathetic pathetic pathetic, just like all of the pathetic utah fans and so called, student athletes! VIVA BRONCO Y ROSE

Alex Smith Stats 1st year: 1 TD/11 INTS/ Rating of 40.8.

John Beck Stats: 1 TD / 3 INTS / Rating of 62.

Neither player had even respectable seasons. Smith hasn't had a respectable season yet. I doubt he will get another chance. Beck probably as 1 year to prove he can play.

wow! you zoobs are real classacts...regarding mr YEWTS TAKE IT WHERE IT COUNTS i think insinuating that you want to hobble an athlete is a little over the top...your mother would be ashamed

You obiously dont know the national following BYU has. I lived on the east coast when they came to syracuse, there was a ton of byu fans. Look in the past whenever BYU goes to a bowl game, they sell their alloted amount tickets......even when they went to the Liberty or the Motor City Bowl

If the Utah Byu is where you are supposed to shine...Coach Whitt who is known as a defensive genius can play defense one more play 4th and 13 Collie and Harline are still open, I cant beleive he was our number one choice for head coach......get used to losing to the likes of UNLV. My brother played on the Fiesta Bowl team....on defense and he told me it was a mistake that they hired him

Firat of all, if you want to be a good football player, read about "GOLF".

Secondly, New Uniforms will make you run faster and jump higher.

Don't lead any end of game drives, and score on the last play of the game. Even if you win, it's still considered a loss. (I know, Elway, Montana, and Young did it alot, but it still doesnt make it a win).

Last of all, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT live your right on or off the field!!!

It really hit's peoples buttons (of course in the pro's they do mention and thank God, so maybe that's OK at the next level. It's just that a lot of fans in this State - I don't want to mention the school because this is a story about professional sports, and not a silly rivalry when you were in college) but they don't understand life outside of the state, and haven't had much experience with Football Players making at the professional level.

Oh, and it doesn't matter if you're held scorless by a weak-team, you can still be better than the winner of the Super Bowl by beating a team they lost to.

Good Luck!!!

re: Re: Beck needs to succeed | 4:55 p.m

Trashing BYU football players in the pros? Ty played 14 years, Gifford Neilsen, Marc Wilson, and wan't Steve Young a #1 rated QB and Superbowl MVP.

re: Sorry BYU Fans | 5:52 p.m

If you read the requirments, the highest rated team out of the lower tier conferences send their highest ranked team if they are ranked #6 or better and will play for the nc if ranked in the top 2.

I accept your apologies...

Maybe while John is in Utah he can barrow some tissue from Kryle Whittingham incase his emotions get the better of him again.

Didn't Todd Christensen play at BYU?

Chad Lewis?

Wasn't Kozlowski one of the few scabs to play in the NFL after the strike?

And didn't Jim McMahon also play for BYU? He threw the Hiil Mary against SMU to win the "Miracle Bowl". I think it was a last second TD pass to Clay Brown. (Beck threw a last second touchdwn to Johnny Harline if I remember right. It was just in front of the MUSS). Didn't he win a superbowl also.

What about Vai? Wasn't he in the pro-bowl?

Weren't there alot of Offensive and Defensive lineman that also cashed an NFL check (Former Outland Trophy winners? Didn't another school from Utah have an Outland Trophy Winner? Merlin Olsen at Utah State).

Yep, "re: Re: Beck needs to succeed | 4:55 p.m", sure has a ton of room to talk.

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Oh, and "yewts take it where it counts", what a moronic post. You don't "hobble" anyone. Whether you are a BYU fan or a Ute troll trying to make BYU look stupid, that was uncalled for, and moronic. Please, never post again. The board is for conversation, fun smack, but not Stupidity.
The post should go away.

"yewts take it where it counts"

Ute troll trying to make BYU look stupid.

But I do like the name, I was in a fraturnity up at the U, and ... they did.

"Maybe while John is in Utah he can barrow some tissue from Kryle Whittingham incase his emotions get the better of him again."

Emotions are part of the game at the higher levels.

I remember Derek Parra openly weep as he was awarded his Gold Medal for Speed Skating.

No more crying smacktalk please from the gymrats.

You've got a lot of fans back here.

Re: Anonymous

Maybe while John is in Utah he can teach you how to spell borrow.

Why the heck are all of you U of U fans even reading and commenting on these BYU articles? Are you really that pathetic? I mean get real and stick your coments vour Beck where thay belong which is in the toilet. He has struggled sure, but others have already mentioned before that though the quarterback is a key position it takes a team to win. Good luck Johnny Boy!

Wow all you Utah fans are rediculous! This article is about John Beck and if you don't like it then turn of your computer. Better yet, don't click on the article when it reads JOHN BECK on the freaking title! Anyways plenty of great QB's have struggled their rookie season and maybe he won't ever get the break he is looking for. For being a great QB a lot of it comes down to luck and being at the rgiht team at the right time. anyways, WHO CARES IF HE SITS ON THE BENCH THE REST OF HIS CAREER! HE BE BEING PAID LIKE NO OTHER AND WON'T EVEN HAVE TO RISK GETTING INJURED! I don't see any of you haters getting drafted. Besides I think he is going to do better.

PS I am an SF fan and everyone HATES Alex Smith down here. I don't critisize him because he came from Utah though. Once he is a 49er its different.

Glad that Utah fans have interest to gossip about John Beck. He's a great player, quality person and will do fine if he gets a team in front of him.

Don't bother to read about Cougar Sports and comment on the players. Go back to building your fallout shelter, you'll need it as year three of Bronco-dominance is rapidly approaching. Get out the crying towels again, you'll need them. This is going to be another disappointing year for the yewts and another great year, better than ever, for the Cougars!!!

Many men are great athletes; relatively few athletes are great men. Young was the most lethal player to play the position at quarterback, and was a great success in the NFL because he survived the pressure of following a great QB. The fact that he excelled at it, winning a SuperBowl, receiving two League MVPs, and establishing several NFL records, makes him the all time best quarterback to have played the game. The fact that he did so with class makes him one of the best all-time athletes in any sport.

Young came out a nobody, and backed up Joe Montana, but his college years prepared him.

When the Buccaneers selected University of Miami quarterback Vinny Testaverde first overall in the 1987 NFL Draft, Young was deemed a bust and traded to the San Francisco 49ers on April 24, 1987, to serve as a backup to Joe Montana. The Buccaneers received 2nd and 4th round draft picks in the trade, which they used to draft Miami linebacker Winston Moss, and Arizona State wide receiver Bruce Hill, respectively. Young would spend the final 13 years of his career with the 49ers.

Montana's Backup: 1987-1990
Steve Young played behind Montana his first several years, but shined as a backup. Subbing for an injured Montana early in the first quarter of a 1987 game against the Chicago Bears, he threw 4 touchdown passes in a 41-0 victory. In a 1988 game, the scrambling southpaw shredded the Minnesota Vikings for a 49-yard, game-winning touchdown run. He started the game out with a 73-yard touchdown pass to John Taylor, after Montana went down with an injury. The scramble for the game-winning score was highlighted by announcer Lon Simmons's reaction, "Young, back to throw, in trouble. He's going to be sacked. No, gets away...He runs...Gets away again! Goes to the 40...Gets away again! To the 35, cuts back at the 30! To the 20...the 15...the 10! He dives! Touchdown 49ers! Young is exhausted! He stumbled as he got to the 2. He could barely move. He dived into the end zone, and the 49ers have taken the lead with 1:58. A 49-yard touchdown run by Steve Young." Simmons stated later, "You won't see many better runs in your life than that."

In 1989, he displayed his potential to become the team's starter in the future. While Montana won the NFL MVP award and led the team to victory in Super Bowl XXIV, Young still had a good season, completing 69% of his passes for 1,001 yards and 8 touchdowns, with only 3 interceptions. In his four seasons as a backup, he had thrown 23 touchdown passes and only six interceptions. It seemed there was a good chance he would eventually become the team's starter.

He has the third-highest single-season passer rating at 112.8 (set in the 1994 season), next to Indianapolis Colts' Peyton Manning (121.1 QB rating in 2004), and New England Patriots' Tom Brady (117.2 QB rating in 2007). However, among quarterbacks with at least 1,500 passing attempts, Young's career passer rating of 96.8 is the highest of any quarterback in NFL history. Peyton Manning is second at 94.7; Kurt Warner is third at 93.2. Young's career completion percentage (64.3%) is the third-highest ever for qualifying quarterbacks, behind New York Jets' Chad Pennington (65.6%) and Arizona Cardinals' Kurt Warner (65.2%).

In 1999, he was ranked #63 on The Sporting News list of the 100 Greatest Football Players. Young was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame on February 5, 2005 and was enshrined August 7, 2005. His induction speech was given by his father, LeGrande "Grit" Young.

He peppered his name all over the Brigham Young record books en route to become the second-all time leading passer in BYU school history. That truly could end up being one of John Beck’s most impressive feats at BYU, becoming the second-all time leading passer at a school that is so tradition rich at the quarterback position. The likes of Steve Young, Ty Detmer, and Jim McMahon all have suited up for the Cougars in Provo and John Beck is lucky enough to say, in terms of total passing yardage, he’s second only to Ty Detmer. He also finished second in BYU history in total offense with 11,059 yards over his career in Provo. He plastered his name all over the Mountain West Conference record books, becoming the MWC career record holder in nearly every major passing category: total offense (11,059 yards), passing attempts (1,418), completions (885), passing yards (11,021 yards), and touchdown completions (79 touchdowns). Those are very impressive feats because legendary quarterbacks like Utah’s Alex Smith have recently come through the MWC ranks. BYU offensive coordinator Robert Anae said, "I can link him right up there with some of the best".

It is pretty funny because this kid was truly just a “natural born football player”. He began throwing spirals with a football at age two! So many members of the media and fans love talking about JaMarcus Russell’s arm strength, well here’s a tidbit for you, sitting on his knees from the 47 yard-line John Beck once tossed a ball through the uprights in BYU’s indoor practice facility! If that doesn’t demonstrate his freakish arm, then maybe the fact that he can throw the ball 75 yards regularly while standing on two feet does! His wrists must be made of iron, because he flicks the ball effortlessly across the field, placing it right where it should be, where only the receiver can make a play with the ball.

I could write a novel about John Beck and his immense football talent, but I’ll let him do the talking on the field after he surprises the so-called “experts” in the next few years. I have seen more people jump on the John Beck bandwagon lately, but trust me, I don’t think it is enough because this guy is much better than many people in the media are giving him credit for.