Yes, John McBush is better than Obama and the lesser of two evils.

But i'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils!!!

I will not throw my vote away in hope that Barrack Communist Obama doesnt win.

I will make a statement.
I will vote for a "traditional conservative."
I will vote for Bob Barr!

Ron Paul Revolution!

McCain isn't pro-life either. He wants to keep our troops in Iraq. Let's end this fictitious war.

Lower taxes have sure helped with our current economic situation, haven't they? With all these tax breaks to the RICH why are they not turning around and investing this money into our economy, creating jobs? Ridiculous argument. The current plan isn't working. I'm willing to try something different.

While I don't agree with much of what McCain has done in the past, I certainly don't feel Obama is the right person for the job because he lacks leadership experience, he hasn't accomplished anything of much significance, and he spews rhetoric like a bad infomercial.

So I will vote for the lesser of two evils...McCain.

McCain is a decent person, but he has one huge flaw. He would leave us in Iraq. Iraq has over $50 billion in American banks. Let them pay the Blackwater or others to defend and train their armies until they can stand on their own.

We need to get out.

I dont know if Obama will be a good president or not.

I absolutely believe that McCain will continue the destruction of the American society by the continued controll by the Military/Industrial forces in this country.

Where in the Declaration of Independence does it state " . . . liberty and the pursuit of happiness from higher taxes"? I've never seen that. As I remember the Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Of course, there is a statement critical of the imposition of taxes without consent, but that is far from saying to eliminate taxes altogether. There is nothing to infer a "pursuit of happiness from higher taxes". Nor is there a statement that says that it is better to run up the national debt through using a national credit card than to assume responsibility and pay as you go.

The writer must be delusional in the extreme to think that anyone in the United States is in support of aiding and abetting international terrorists and tyrants. However, it might be said that the current president has inadvertantly aided the enemy by launching a war that has increased animosity toward America and promoted the expansion of international terrorism.

I worry too much of McCain's recent flip-flops -- first, for addressing climate change, and then proposing more drilling of oil off our coasts and silly "tax free" summer gas proposals to boost oil consumption. Second, against the Bush tax cuts, but now an advocate for them. Third, against subsidies for wind and solar energy, but now an advocate for subsidizing nuclear power because Wall Street refuses (rightfully so from a financial risk perspective) to invest in the technology. Aside from his wanting to stay in Iraq for decades to come, what is his message of hope for fixing America's many, many crises? McCain even admits the economy is not his strong suit, so he plays up his war stance...

His desire to stay in Iraq is truly bothersome as it means more money pouring out of the nation's economy, along with our oil dollars, into the Mideast, which hampers our quality of life. We need a president who sees the nexus of our military and oil situation and pursue real change. Nukes aren't the answer, as we'll simply trade oil dependency for waste and national security woes. Obama's planned investment in renewables and innovation is far more promising!

To the obama papas and mamas:
obama doesn't have a chance in Utah and when the dust settles and people see what he hasn't done in his adult life, I believe mccain will win

McCain's view of safety:

"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran."

go nuclear! The reason Nuclear power plants have to be subsidized initially is because there is so much regulation involved that it drives the cost and time to build a reactor up astronomically. If we can get rid of the red tape then nuclear power doesn't need to be subsidized

If all men are created equal why are they taxed at progressively higher tax rates? Why doesn't the middle-class get the same tax breaks as the rich? Equality goes out the window when it comes to taxes. If we are all created equal, the rich man should pay no more tax than the poor man can afford. That's equality.

As for our massive national debt, we allowed the Central Bankers to print fiat money in violation of our own Constitution. It was ludicrous of us to believe the politicians would be responsible with our credit when Central Banks offered them credit without end. We would not be in this war if the government had to pay their bills like the rest of us, nor would we be in unfathomable debt.

I'm done voting for the lesser evil. I'll write in Ron Paul. He's the only Republican worth his salt.

McCain is the safe choice in a world where culturally, religiously and socially you really don't have a choice. You'd vote for a republican goat if it was anti abortion and vowed to stymie the lives of gay people at every turn.
We're moving ahead. I am voting Obama.

Yet another head-buried-in-the-sand republican. On what planet do you live on when you believe Bush has given us more freedoms? How can you possibly believe the enourmous deficit is just fine. McBush's plan would be to INCREASE the deficit to even greater numbers.
To date, the deficit created by Iraq, is costing every man, woman and child in the US over $300,000. If the war continues, as McBush would like it to, it will cost each of us at least $1,000,000.
How is that going to be paid for? Honostly repugs, tell us how the deficit can be paid, without raising taxes on the wealthy?

No one cares about right or wrong. People only care about political affiliation. Neither party is capable of doing anything good, according to the other party. That's just nonesense.

But it's worse in republican conservative neo-cons, because they tend to be so hypocritical. Bill Clinton had an affair - he is evil. Newt Gingrich is still lauded, despite his affairs. Obama's an elitist - he is evil. Rush is an elitist, a pill-popping, lying philanderer, so he's number one among the "moral" right wing. Bush, despite his adopted veneer, is really an Ivy League, New England elite.

So, once again, this letter writer will overlook all the faults of McCain, cheering for him because he is a republican, and hating Obama because he is something else. Obama is not perfect, but if people are honest, I think it is clear that he will do better than GWB and GWB part 2, John McCain.

Time for a democrat to turn this country around. Get out of Iraq. Lower fuel costs.

Yours and others consistent use of terms such as "repugs" explains why many of us view the "tolerant left" to merely be the hypocritical left. How does that differ from the Rush O'Hannity's you claim to abhor? (except that their over-the-top showmanship is a parody - yours is serious and therefore more scary) It is hard to take anything you say seriously.

When the dust settles what exactly are we going to find out about what Obama hasn't done in his adult life??

"No one cares about right or wrong."

Huh????

I absolutely DO care about it.

I voted for Bush in 2000 and, dear Lord forgive me, how I've come to regret that vote.

I'm voting for Obama in November.

If you truly believe that Obama is going to get us out of Iraq then you are either naive or completely foolish.

Even if they started today to pull troops out, it'd take well over a year to remove them safely from the country. Even then it will create an unstable situation likely to destroy any forward advances made there.

Regardless of 'how' or 'why' we are there...we are there and real Americans are not quitters. We have to finish what we started or we will make the situation worse. Who is the better qualified leader in that situation?

Easy answer for me...John McCain.

Hey McSafe!!!

The US is in dozens and dozens of nations like South Korea, Kuwait, Japan, Germany, etc.

Don't be such a a dolt and fall for the liberal mantra that McCain wants to fight the war in Iraq for 100 years. It cheapens your own intelligence to rely so much on the stupidity of the left. Nothing wrong with troops to keep the peace, and if there is, you should be raising a stink going back to the forties, not just Iraq. If you are gonna be that way, be consistent, and fair, not just taking cheap shots at someone when you know darn well, that is NOT what he is talking about.

Anonymous says "bomb bomb bomb Iraq" which is hysterical because the only bombs that have been used since the initial attack on Baghdad are the ones the terrorists strap to little children to try and kill American troops.

There is no bombing going on over there dude. Pay attention to the actual facts, and while you are at it, you might want to notice that the job is almost complete, and the number of AQ terrorists in Iraq can be counted even by people such as yourself. A form of stability has been created, and unless the liberal whiners get their way, success is not all that far off, but you have to search for the truth, you won't get it from the Desnews, CNN, Fox, and other newsless outlets. Try reading reports on the news from other nations, like England.

We are actually winning this war. Sorry to give you the bad news, and take the big stick out of your hand.......

Donated to Ron Paul.

Voting for Bob Barr because he will be the only candidate on Utah's ballot positioned to carry on the Ron Paul R3VOLution!

Why don't conservatives support our troops? Why do conservatives hate America? You talk supporting our troops but you refuse to act like responsible citizens and pay for the war you claim to support. Your lack of patriotism as caused you dollar to be devalued to the point fuel prices have doubled. America doesn't need sunshine patriots would just run around wearing their plastic flag pins. Conservatives are ruining this great nation with their fantasy that you can live on credit and not pay your bills. Money has trickled down, any more than money grows on trees.

The nation isn't Utah with its lowest enlistment and voting rates. Outside Utah, we realize what failure your values reap upon society.

Utah historical has taken more in federal aid than Utah as ever paid. Utahan have developed a air of entitlement. War is not an federal entitlement program to give Hill jobs.

Hey John. As soon as you said there is no bombing going on in Iraq you lost your credibility. YOU...should trying checking the facts yourself. And actually, anomymous said "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran". That happens to be a direct McCain quote.

Hey John!!

We may have a presence in those other countries but we are not spending near the amount of money or deploying the number of troops as we are in Iraq (which we had no business being there to begin with). We are still patrolling the streets of Iraq trying to maintain peace (which is not the case in Germany or any other of the countries that you cited as an example).

I'm surprised that no one so far has jumped on the writer for doing a very dishonest thing - quoting someone who spoke on a completely different subject, then cramming the quote into today's situation. Does he really feel Dr. King would be involved in the McCain campaign if he were alive today? Using his words to wrap together McCain supporters ("good people") as opposing Obama supporters ("bad people") is flagrantly dishonest, and the DN should not pass this garbage on to its readers.

It's sad when people comment on voting for the "lesser of two evils". It just goes to show that either way you go, it's like spitting in the wind.

And please...stop using the word "repugs". It's an insult to my dog.

John McCain as the much safer and wiser candidate? The reaper is right on his back, hes got one more term in him at most. Its all about his vice president, thats the real next president.

The Nuclear Power comment is “off topic” and should be removed from this Forum.

To: save the planet, you said "The reason Nuclear power plants have to be subsidized initially is because there is so much regulation involved that it drives the cost and time to build a reactor up astronomically. If we can get rid of the red tape then nuclear power doesn't need to be subsidized."

The nuclear industry has proven itself to be so safe that no regulation is needed, right?

Your premise appears to be - the industry will build safe reactors even if government red tape is cut on reactor design and safety regulations.

Well, the Three Mile Island, Tokyo and Chernobyl releases of radiaoactive products seem to prove otherwise.

So, are you ready to build a nuke plant at the point of the mountain? or will that be too close to your own back yard?

Oh, and while they are getting regulations cut, you can bet they also will not build unless they can get a law granting immunity from prosecution for damages caused by release of damaging radioactive waste.

This is OUR country. It doesn't belong to Senator Obama. It doesn't belong to Senator McCain. It is OUR country.

What WE want to do with it is up to US, not to Mr. Obama or Mr. McCain.

WE THE PEOPLE are in charge, not Mr. Obama or Mr. McCain.

Whoever wins in November works for US. We don't work for him.

It is impossible to move forward as a nation when we view the system upside down. Are we nothing but pawns who hope that a generous and gracious King will be appointed to give us the crumbs from his table, or are we Citizens of the United States, endowed with God given liberty who require Government to be subordinate to our collective will?

Slavery has been abolished in America. Why do we still act as if the Government is our Slave Master?

Either Mr. Obama or Mr. McCain is going to have to learn to approach the citizens on bended knee, for it is US, the citizens who rule in America, not the elected - temporary - President.

Both of the major parties have let us down. A vote for McCain or Obama is a vote for bigger, more unconstitutional government. Do you really want more of the same? That's all the two major parties are giving you.

Personally, I vote for the more Constitutionally minded candidate in the Primaries and do the same in the General election. This year it looks like I'll be voting for Bob Barr. We can turn this country around, but it will need to be a group effort. You don't need to vote for the lesser of two evils, you can and should vote your consience.

The folks bashing Obama supported Bush. Under Bush we have huge debt, a devalued dollar a credit crisis, declining incomes, a diminished middle class, dropping stock values and rising unemployment.

Would you take financial advise from someone who can't pay their bill or balance a bank account?

Not long ago McCain was bashed as being a RINO, for breaking with his party and not following the military code of conduct after his capture in North Vietnam. Conservative told stories of hoe McCain made deals with his communist captures for women and better treatment.

These folks are calling Obama a socialist.

Do conservatives have the capacity to learn from mistakes? Is there a bully they won't tune in?

If you all are against Obama, he must be the greatest thing since NPR came to FM radio.

Is there a thirt or even fourth party candidate I can vote for?? I don't want to waste my vote by voting for the lesser of two evils.

Ummmm...

Come on, you know that the State of Utah will go for the Republican. Even Charles Manson would win in Utah over any Democrat, just because he has an R after his name.

With this in mind, McCain will find no reason to come campaign even though Obama is setting up an office an putting paid staff in Utah. McCain will feel no reason to spend money on the most sure thing from the reddest state in the USA.

So, your vote is a waste in Utah anyway.

Compare the average income in SLC, Orem and Provo with San Francisco, Boston and NTC. Does conservatives politics bring economic prosperity?

This is why, as Utah goes the rest of America won't follow.

The politics in Utah show why like think has a multiplier. Utah Utah, you learn that you're rewarded for expounding expected phases. "We believe in the KJV of the Bible, in so far as it is translated correctly."

When rewards aren't driven by results there is little reason to compare and see. Comparing implies questioning the norm. You will be reward more by saying Jews came to the New World than by being a geneticist that proves they could have.

Why would you want to stand lonely after sacrament meeting because you said you support Obama? If you call Obama a socialist you will be rewarded with fellowship.

How can anyone in their right mind support McCain. If you have listened to his speeches in the last few months, you'll notice that he has changed his position on almost every issue. What gives with him? He is a complete basket case. And no, he would definitely not be the wiser choice. He says exactly what he thinks we want to hear---and it changes nearly weekly. Sheesh!!

The "eloquent diatribe" from GWB, "Even Charles Manson would win in Utah over any Democrat, just because he has an R after his name." shows that the Liberal Left will do anything, anything at all, to promote their agenda.

With a spokesman who spouts that kind of rhetoric, would anyone in Utah want to join his party?

This letter writer has to be pulling our leg with this letter. He can't be serious, can he? Not that I think Obama is a better choice, but wow, that's a pretty high opinion of a man such as McCain. Wise? Really, you think so? I don't know him personally, but nothing I've seen, read or heard about McCain makes me think him wise.

To 2:24,

You're equating money with success? How shallow.

Is that what they mean by, "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."?

I have been in Boston, San Francisco and NYC, many, many, many times, but I've chosen to live in Salt Lake valley, even though I could have earned more than double in any of those cities. My heart was centered on my family, not on my wallet.

You write about results. What results are you looking for? Money? Liberal laws? Socialistic programs?

You wrote that Obama supporters would be shunned by members of the LDS Church. What a bigoted thing to write. How dare you paint a religion to imitate your idea of that religion? How dare you classify its members to fit within the mold that you have made? How dare you even intimate that anyone within that religion is told how to vote? Is that what happens in your religion?

AGENCY is the word that you need to understand when you write about members of the LDS Church. Each member has his/her agency to do exactly as he/she wishes on everything, including politics.

To "The way things are": are you bitter or what?

The whole "if you dont think like me its because you are a mindless sheep" mentailty is worse than what you claim to oppose.

Some people certainly have an odd idea of what "safety" and "wisdom" are if they think McCain, who will keep us entrenched in Iraq and overtax our troops even more by getting us involved in an Iran conflict.

The idea of McCain chills me to the bone.

Well, GWB was right, wasn't he? You could run Satan himself with an "R" next to his name in certain areas of this state, and he would win in a landslide.

Ranger Gordon,

Even though you and I see Senator McCain from opposite viewpoints, it is refreshing to read a post where someone gives a concrete reason for his opinion.

Unlike you, I think that if our troops were pulled out of Iraq, that Iran would move into Irag immediately. With the U.S. out of Irag, do you think that other countries would even hesitate to move in and claim Iraq as part of their country?

Mr. Obama wants to remove the military and then discuss options with those other nations. Mr. McCain wants to leave the troops there until there is no danger of Irag being "captured" by a neighboring nation.

The cost is relative. Already the Persian Gulf states have shown that they will not hesitate to bankrupt other nations, including the United States. Do you think that they will suddenly have a change of heart when there is no military presence nearby?

Mike R. (12:31 p.m.)

Please tell me how the US was represented in the last 7 1/2 years by the Bush/Cheney cabal. From your comments, would you say that George W. Bush was a good steward of his office and responded to the American people in the policies he initiated?

Why do over 80% of Americans disagree with the direction the country has been taken? Or is this just a Liberal trick to distract the American people from the true nature of conservative ideology? Are conservatives (those of the Reagan, Bush I and Bush II variety) the saviors of mankind that you appear to imply in your various discourses?

Does the Liberal Left really do those things necessary to promote their agenda? How does this differ from the Conservative Right and the way they promote their agenda? Perhaps you can elaborate on the difference between liberal and conservative without resorting to scurious labeling and name-calling. And would you place these in the definitive context of the role of government (particularly when government is representative)unless you believe there is a secret group of saboteurs who have stolen government and established a dictatorship which doesn't respond to the will of the people.

I saw Iran, and thought Iraq. <shrug> There is no credible quote from McCain on "bomb bomb, bomb Iran" and its sad anyone would believe he ever said such a thing.

However, for the liberal folks who cry Bush lied, no WMD, note that according to the AP, on July 6th

"* Saddam Hussein had a nuclear program

* At the Tuwaitha nuclear complex just south of Baghdad

* Which included 550 metric tons (over 1.2 million pounds) of "yellowcake", or concentrated uranium

* And multiple devices that could be used in a nuclear weapon.

That's pretty big news, isn't it?" Curious that the Desnews missed that little gem......

Iraq had WMD capability, so once again, the left is wrong, and the right is right. Amazing how facts can get in the way of outright hatred of a man.

500 metric tons of concentrated uranium. How many nuclear weapons can you make from that? The answer is 142. No WMDs. LOL!!! You were WRONG and should apologize.

Search for it, and try the americanthinker web sight if you are too lazy to find it yourself

Of course Senator Obama will not stand a chance here in Utah, but as the election gets closer I am sure that more and more people will see through Mr. flip flop Teflon John McCain and vote for Senator Obama!!!

I didn't vote for the bunch we have in power today.
But those that did are having a problem with admitting it and taking responsibility for anything.

Oscar,

The President of the United States executes the laws passed by Congress. The President cannot legislate. He cannot fund anything. He cannot direct Congress to do anything.

We The People, elect a President to execute those laws that our Representatives have passed.

You give the President powers that are not Constitutional while you excuse Congress from their duties.

If 80% of American's dislike the President, then that also means that 80% of Americans dislike the laws that Congress has passed.

We do not have a King. We are a Republic. The most important person in Government to each of us is our Representative in Congress.

You remember how it works, don't you? The Senate represents the States, with each State having equal representation. The House represents the people with Representatives apportioned according to population.

Without funding from Congress, the President can only shake a stick and utter threats - even though he is the Commander in Chief. Only Congress can authorize expenditures.

The Liberal Left would like to confuse the duties of each branch of Government so that Congress can avoid responsibility. If there is blame, then blame the House of Representatives for failure to heed the People's wishes.

It is virtually impossible for neocon ilk like Mike Richards to make any sort of post without denigrating liberals.
It's all that shrinking counter-revolutionary group has left in their arsenal of hatred.