Reader comments: Some are pushing (literally) car mileage to upper limits
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Of course cars experience wear and tear. Just because your starter has lasted for an exceptionally long time doesn't mean it's okay for everybody to keep turning the car on and off all the time.
If you're that confident that there's no wear and tear on mechanical components how about running a test ... just sit in your car and start and restart in your driveway a couple of thousand times and see what happens.
If economy doesn't START to decline until you hit 60 mph then why don't you at least go 60 or 65 and quit being a hazard to the rest of us? Also, if you will recall, we had a 55 mph speed limit back in the 80's and it didn't do squat to save the world's economy or even improve traffic safety.
Having said that, I am not opposed to some of these hypermiling techniques. In fact, I've been doing it for years in one form or another and didn't realize until now what it was called. Sensible driving habits get me 33 mpg in my Buick Park Avenue.
We don't have those vehicles here yet Europe is 70% diesel. What is wrong with the US?
I have a 97 Hyundai Accent. It has 125000 miles on it. Recently I invested 2000 dollars on the car. I did 2 things: Put a cold air intake on the car. Upgraded the exhaust. I also started using the Mobil 1 Advanced Synthetic Oil, (the 15000 mile stuff.) and changed out my auto transmission fluid to the synthetic stuff as well. I drive the speed limit, 65, and out of my 10 gallon take I got 550 miles!!! Compared to 300 miles. I have more power and torque now as well. So the question that I have is why are the car manufactures not doing these easily implemented, cost effective upgrades to all new vehicles? The only down side is that the car is a little louder. (you remove the air silencer to install the cold air intake.) These upgrades wouldn’t really change the cost of a new car and it would upgrade the fuel mileage about 50%. We also could start to implement these changes tomorrow, Not have to wait 50 years for technology to catch up.
1. Properly tune/lube your vehicle's engine.
2. Proper tire inflation using radial tires.
3. Wheels should be properly aligned.
4. Don't buy/drive more vehicle (bigger) than you
realistically need.
5. Don't haul around junk in the trunk. Take out
that extra weight.
6. Smooth and even starts and stops are best.
7. Anticipate lights and adjust your speed
accordingly.
8. Turn your engine off if you are going to be
idiling for more than 30 seconds.
9. Keep windows rolled up at highway speeds, and
yes, you can use your AC in moderation.
10. If you are 10 lbs., 20 lbs., 50 lbs., or 100+
lbs. overweight, work to drop that weight.
Your vehicle's engine (and your heart) will not
have to work as hard to get you around. Also,
you will spend less time wasting gas in
fastfood drive thru lanes, and probably
improve your health at the same time.
Some stoplights are 2 minutes long.
And, if you only do it at the longest lights, and maybe only one or two times per commute, you are saving a good amount of gas, and your "wear and tear" as the AAA person talked about, is minimal (if there even is any to begin with). I tend to think it really doesn't matter. I have a Honda Civic 1994, and have never replaced the starter. How many times do you think I've started and turned off the car since it was made? We turn our cars off and on all the time. One or two more times per commute will do nothing to the car.
So, shut it off at long stoplights and we will save some gas and some pollution too.
Last year I drove to Idaho in the spring without using the air conditioning. I got about 35 mpg on that trip.
The GM 3.1 L is a pretty efficient engine.
Regarding why gas mileage has not improved since 1994 (in fact, it's gotten worse. Our 2007 fuel economy was actually 1.2 mpg LOWER than in 1981.). The answer is, somewhere during the era of cheap gas, we decided that a car had to be an "experience", not just a tool to get you from point A to point B. Case in point: The 2007 Honda Accord has better acceleration than any 70's muscle car.
Maybe the current (and I believe permanent) gas crisis will force us to re-examine our priorities about what a car really is. It's a tool, not a toy.
To Gary Moore: We have enough idiots driving over the posted speed limit and weaving in and out of traffic already. The last thing we need are comments encouraging more.
Now that the cost of energy (especially gasoline) has gone up considerably, the average consumer is going to start asking "how much power does this thing use?" and make their purchasing decision based largely on the answer. Once that happens, we will start to see lots more energy efficient devices (including cars).
1/5 of a gallon of gas per minute? No way. Maybe 1/5 of a gallon per hour.
I've always driven four cylinders. It gives me the freedom to drive aggresively and enjoyably. I'm almost 50 and haven't caused an accident since I was a teenager.
So buy a small car. If you feel brave use a scooter/motorcycle or bicycle. I love bicycling, but I'm scared to do it on the roadway. On the other hand I ride a 150cc Yamaha scooter on nice days and get 75mpg and will go 55 mph. It's a little risky too, but a lot of fun.
Probably the biggest gas saver not mentioned; consolidate trips and share rides.
We still drive too fast, sit and idle for long periods of time, make unnecessary trips, refuse to carpool, and drive bigger, more powerful vehicles than we need.
The tide is slowly turning, but it will probably take sustained $5 gasoline before good driving habits replace bad ones for the average driver.
1. I agree with Mahonri and James - why can't the U.S. manufactures implement these upgrades NOW? They have the technology! There's only one answer, they're in bed with "big oil".
2. Fix the stupid traffic lights! We've all experienced long and unnecessary delays.
We drove that Bonneville almost 300k miles before my brother gave it away...
Look both ways and save the planet!!!!
The fast lane needs to remain open for people who would rather sacrifice gas mileage than the profit lost by spending too much time in traffic.
My best advice: keep up with the car in front of you.
And I know semi-drivers who drop ball bearing out the window if they have a car tailgating - it is unsafe both ways.
To "Turn off Engine", do the math. 1/5 of a gallon for idling a 30mpg car for one minute? So idling for one minute uses the equivalent gas as driving at 60 mph (with all the wind drag) for 6 minutes at a higher RPM? Even with the increase oxygen intake at the high speed, your 1/5 of a gallon number doesn't work for a sedan. 1/5 of a gallon for idling for one minute is what about what a Semi-truck burns, not a 30mpg car.
Efficiency definitely needs to improve, but the biggest immediate gain can be had by driving much less. Without any improvement in technology, if we reduce the miles we drive by 50%, we would reduce our gas consumption by 50% as well. This is the biggest key to the gas price problem, USE LESS!
I get a good laugh when I see people accelerate quickly when the light turns green, only to see them hit the break and stop very quickly at the next stoplight. Sometimes the rate of acceleration & deceleration is so high that I can't help but think of the wear this induces on the engine, transmission, & brake pads, in addition to all the wasted gasoline. People need to realize that they're not getting to their final destination any faster just because they are getting to each red light faster. Coasting is our friend and minimizes stop & go traffic which is more frustrating to me than driving a little slow.
Lagging left turn signals result in fewer vehicles idling at intersections for shorter amounts of time. Two, rather than four, directions of traffic wait for the left turning vehicles. Because the left turners can turn on both the green light (if possible) and on a left arrow, more cars are able to make left turns on each cycle.
On the freeway, if there are 3 lanes the far right lane is not for driving in, it is for entering and exiting the freeway, the middle lane is for driving and the far left is for passing. If there are more lanes, then the middle lanes are for driving, the outside right and left are still used for entering/exiting or passing, respectively. If there are 2 lanes, drive in the right pass on the left, unless you see someone getting on, then move to the left until it is safe to get back in the right. Common sense.
Dude and others referring to the over 60 mph mileage reduction: This magical 60 mph number has no practical meaning. It is an EPA claim, but I've never been able to find a study. My optimum fuel efficiency is at 71 mph, and is 12 mpg lower at 60 than 71. All cars aren't the same aerodynamically, so wind resistance will change optimum performance from car to car.
Bob G, when was the last time you actually saw brakes overheat on a passenger vehicle? Brakes aren't going to overheat by using them a little to slow down while going down hill.
To those pumping LIMIT and chastizing the "law breakers". If you don't move right then YOU are breaking the law. You aren't the only one on the planet. Get out of the way. Have some courtesy.
Anyway, I live 6 miles from my work and would ride my bike everyday if I didn't think I'd get killed. We have about 4 bike lanes in the whole state, and most drivers don't even respect those.
For now I'll just start driving 60-65 and feel rebelious for driving in the "entering and exiting lane."
An interesting experiment would be for everyone to drive 55 on I-15. The intended vehicle capacity of I-15 would be quickly overwhelmed. And the Utah legislature would have to raise property taxes to make up for lost revenue.
Out of all the places I have lived Utah has the most problems with the left lane, and after reading some posters comments I understand why. People here dont seem to understand the concept of a passing lane. The lane is there so faster vehicles can pass slower vehicles. After the faster vehicle passes it is required BY LAW to return to the right lane. If you doubt the law then please explain all the traffic signs saying "Keep Right Except to Pass" or "Slower Traffic Keep Right"
It is amazing that in moderate traffic on i-15 there are always twice as many cars in the left lane than the other 2 or 3 lanes combined.
Left lane driving is a compulsion in utah. My BinLaw (a native Utahn) gets visibly frustrated with me if I dont get in the far left lane or carpool lane, even if the lane I am in is going faster.
It is really a strange phenomenon
If you don't like it, remember, you are a driver, not a judge.
If you are blocking traffic in the left lane, I hope you get a ticket.
And while we are at it, when are there EVER more people in the commuter lanes than in the other lanes? 1/10th the cars, with 2.5 people per car does not translate into traffic efficiency.
Utah Code Title 41-6a-702. Lists all of the restrictions Utah law recognizes for the use of the "left lane" - moving to the right for faster cars is not listed.
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If cars really "wore and tore" they wouldn't last more than a few miles. The parts of an engine do wear slowly over long mileages but are designed to last thousands and thousands of cycles.
Turning off, then starting your engine, is no significant stress on a vehicle. I have a mid-eighties Toyota with nearly 200,000 miles on it which is using the original starter. I sometimes turn the engine off at long traffic lights.
Most of the hypermiling techniques are worthwhile. I don't tailgate, or speed. I try to go with the flow. I get 31 mpg in city only driving.
I use Redline SI-1 Fuel System Cleaner and Mobil 1 Synthetic motor oil. NGK is the best spark plug for mileage. Otherwise my car is stock.
I guess I'm not impressing anyone with a shiny black Escalade, but I get around just fine.