Reader comments: Illegal immigration not simply a legal problem
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High among our values is respect for and obedience to the law of the land.
That value is also the foundation for a stable and just society.
The flood of illegal aliens brazenly flout our laws.
They flee countries where lawlwssnwss, corruption and injustice are endemic.
Intentionally or not, they bring those values with them when they enter our country illegally and live outside the law once they arrive.
Importing third world corruption values will not benefit our nation.
Those who find a lack of human rights and opportunity in their homeland should stay and work to make their homes better rather than breaking our laws and looting our social services.
"What would you recommend?"
Enforce the laws of the land.
What I worry about is what is happening to our schools and society. It seems a large amount of our local crime comes from two sources. People hooked on drugs trying to get a quick fix or immigrants looking for some fast money.
Schools in West Orem and West Provo are not speaking English as their primary language. I love the dual immersion schools but hope they will actually be DUAL language.
Respect for laws and respect for each other can go a long way on both sides of this issue.
While we wait for the federal government to develop a reasonable immigration policy, Utah should welcome people of good will, willing to contribute to society.
The unfortunate thing is that Congress is allowing this to happen because of not renewing laws that have expired. There were laws that helped seasonal workers enter the US and work.
We need to stop illegal immigration, not because of US businesses and trying to enforce laws, but to stop slavery.
We must insist Democrats endorse the Federal SAVE ACT(H.R.4088), by phoning (2022243121) There leaders are keeping it dormant, waiting for the new presidents AMNESTY.
I say we should enforce our borders with walls and more manpower and then increase LEGAL immigration for all Mexicans who want to escape that oppressive regime, and who can qualify as healthy non-criminals, and who are willing to learn English and function as integrated members of American society.
We should offer free no-questions-asked transportation to the Mexican border for all those who are here who want it, so they could apply for legal immigrant status. Already many illegals are returning to Mexico due to the more stringent employment requirements in some states. This would increase the exodus and LEGAL reentry.
How about those recommendations, Mr. Florez?
Since there are jobs that Americans don't want to do, I think I have a way of motivating them.
What you do is take the welfare recipiants, ship them and their families to an area that "depends" on cheap labor. You then charge the company/farm/factory $0.25/hr to have these people work there. Meanwhile they live in government provided apartments and receive welfare checks, the same as they currently receive. Then, you limit the amount of time that they can stay in the apartments and be employed by the company while on welfare. All positions would be limited to entry level positions with limited supervisory responsibility. Once their time is up, or if their employer finds them to be valuable, they can be hired using their new job skills and proof of ability to work.
Then, their kids would be taken care of by other welfare recipiants who are supervised by full time government employees that monitor the workers to ensure the safety of the kids.
Once you get that sytem up and running, the illegal immigrants would run for home because they can't compete.
Why do the laws exist? Not because God wrote them out, or because there is some great disembodied ethic we must all follow. The laws exist for our good. If a law ceases to benefit the people, it needs be changed. Whether a law should be changed, therefore, is a balance of competing interests with the ultimate goal of benefitting society the most, not a test of our obsequious compliance to the law.
We need to frame this debate on what is best for society, not whether illegal immigrants are criminals. Clearly the system has failed, so let's take a look at it. The immigrants aren't the problem, the failure of the system is the problem.
"The flood of illegal aliens brazenly flout our laws".
I whole heartedly agree that just because most of land the US has is as a result of broken treaties or taking land in wars of agression, this is no reason to not insist that others obey our law.
For example, if I steal your car, you can not come to my house and steal it back. Two wrongs do not make a right.
The answer is not to abandon our laws but to abide by and enforce them as they are there to protect us. Our laws are based on Judeo-Christian principles, so when our nation’s laws are broken so are God’s laws, i.e., thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not bear false witness, etc. When the rule of law is abandoned, civilizations fall. It’s that simple. Look at what happened in New Orleans after Katrina when lawlessness prevailed.
All of us, including illegal aliens, should seriously consider what will happen to this country if everyone becomes a selfish and greedy scofflaw.
and go back to history 101, you slept thru a lot
Providence gave this great land to America
Otherwise California and Texas would be third world stink holes
Watch "immigration gumballs" on YouTube for your answer.
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