Reader comments: Clinton wins in West Virginia

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sinking feeling? | 12:47 a.m. May 14, 2008
It is true that no matter how well Clinton does from here on she can't overtake Obama; thanks to the "winner gets squat" Democratic rules.

That's too bad for Democrats.

Obama is shrinking by the minute.

His appeal among working class whites was small to begin with and is non-existant now.

His peevish thin-skinned-when-challenged debate style is now apparent, but it is too late to stop him from the nomination.

His paper thin resume is looking thinner by the day (posters reduced to citing his college teaching as experience to be President, funny but scary)

SuperDelegates are committing to Obama to try to end the process before Clinton shows up more of his flaws.

Sorry.

November is a long way off.

Everyone will be seeing thru Obama by then.

Start practicing now; "President McCain"
shadow | 5:49 a.m. May 14, 2008
I think that the bigoted people fear Obama. Here is a Christian man, a graduate of the Harvard Law School, worked in the projects in Chicago, is a US Senator, and has a great looking family with a fiercely dedicated wife who is also a lawyer. Plus, he plays a good game of basketball.

And from a distance he looks, well, black? whoa nellie!!! Stop the presses!!! He is the product of two races; but aren't we all when we look at those DNA results?

And he talks about how we can't afford 4 more years of the GOP and Bush policies and Cheney's shennanigans. Wow, that is for sure!!!

If one of my children had his resume I would be so very proud. Wouldn't anyone?

The Shadow smells bigotry.
26% | 6:57 a.m. May 14, 2008
It is the future, Democrats.
Obama could only get 26% of Democratic voters in WVa.
His appeal is incredibly narrow demographically.
The support that guarantees him the nomination won't get him anywhere in the real election.
You throw Hillary out at your own peril.
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SSSSSSucking Sound | 7:23 a.m. May 14, 2008
The working class Democrats that can't bring themselves to vote for a Harvard lawyer/community organizer (just what is a community organizer?) will have little trouble casting their vote for a genuine hero like McCain.
The sound you hear coming out of West Virginia is Obama's chances slipping away.
Political Party Patriotism | 7:29 a.m. May 14, 2008
Obama digs his American flag lapel pin out of the trash. Not enough for WestVirginia, evidently.Won't be enough for America, either.

McCain serves our country bravely in the service and spends 5 years in Hanoi Hilton.

Harvard dandy vs Hero
America will decide.
SDT | 8:01 a.m. May 14, 2008
She's like the energizing bunny, she keeps going and going and going and going.......
sick of it | 9:06 a.m. May 14, 2008
I am so sick of being called a racist and a bigot because I don't like Obama. I don't care what color he is, I care he associates with racist pastors and men who bombed the Pentagon. I care he has the most far left record of any Senator, I care he has very little experience, I care that no one wants to question him for fear of being called racist. I care that when he is asked tough questions he avoids them and calls the questioner negative.
Smell again ! | 9:44 a.m. May 14, 2008
That's fear, desperation and Democratic PANIC you smell.
No racism here, and that tired old trick won't cut it anymore, sorry.
resume | 10:41 a.m. May 14, 2008
Tough choice this November;

vote for the resume
or
vote for the hero
"sick" is about right | 11:10 a.m. May 14, 2008
"he associates with ... men who bombed the Pentagon"!?! You fit right in with your cousin in West Virginia that said "I hear he's a Muslim"!

This primary makes it easier to identify the places in America where the sun still doesn't shine.
sick of it | 12:03 p.m. May 14, 2008
I have no cousins in West Virginia, and the suns shines pretty bright on me most days. There are serious questions about Obama, and it seems quite typical for people to name call and degrade anyone who raises those questions.
Steve - Re: Sinking Feeling? | 12:37 p.m. May 14, 2008
It's clear you're a Billary, excuse me... I mean Hillary supporter and it appears you're also buying into her dillusions of a Presidency come this fall. You and she need to face facts that her campaign is done, she won't be chosen as the Democrat nominee... Obama will and deservedly so, he's earned it.

Don't start practicing saying "President McCain" yet as I think you're quite wrong that Obama is on any sort of downward slope between now and November.

Hopefully Obama will win and be our next President... and that is coming from me, a life-long Republican only voter (I've never purposely voted for a Democrat before but just might vote for him).

McCain is not the right person for the job this time around.
Steve - Re: 26% | 12:46 p.m. May 14, 2008
There's a reason Obama got 26% yesterday in West Virginia, and it isn't because he's a poor candidate. It's because he didn't put any real effort into campaigning there... he purposely basically ignored the state and concentrated his efforts elsewhere (where they'd be better served).

Had he campaigned hard and heavy there he most likely would've still lost, but at a much narrower gap... something like in last week's Primary in which Hillary "won". Or who knows? Maybe he could've pulled out a VERY narrow win.

What some people fail to realize is that in the FEW places Hillary has won so far, that doesn't mean Obama is unelectable there... it just means that most likely if those Democrats didn't have an alternate choice they'd be behind Obama.

So when it comes down to just Obama vs. McCain, count on a much better showing for Obama in Hillary's "big states" and though the election might be close... I can see Obama beating McCain.

I don't believe Hillary is the right choice as that will cause her haters and Republican's to come out in droves voting "McCain" just to keep her out.
Steve - Tell me How | 12:58 p.m. May 14, 2008
Someone tell me how military service automatically makes someone the "best" candidate/person to be President. Seriously, how does it? Are you suggesting that simply because any average Joe on the street who signs up and serves with the armed forces it will make them the more "qualified" leader?

There's much more to running this country than being in charge of the military. And Obama is right, there are better ways to show your patriotism than wearing a flag pin or waving a flag... anyone can do that. But not just anyone can run the country.

Also, I don't think someone needs to have been in Washington for years and years... decades, in order to be "qualified" either. Having someone fresh and new who doesn't like to play the longstanding Washington games that get us nowhere sounds like something better to me... true change.

Obama, this time around, is the best person for the job. He is the first person to ever get me, a life-long Republican ONLY voter, to seriously consider crossing party lines in an election. He'd be the only Democrat I'll do this for.
Actually, Steve | 1:04 p.m. May 14, 2008
I'm a Romney supporter.
McCain wasn't on my top 3 list but he will be (marginally) better than a Democrat.
The longer the Obama-Hillary thing goes the better the chance for a GOP win in Nov (still slim, for sure)
Plus it's kind of a naughty thrill posting for Hillary.
Steve -26% and dropping | 1:15 p.m. May 14, 2008
I think you're analysis is off. Hillary has done better in the big states and in the swing states. Many of the states Obama carried are never voting for a Democrat in Nov.
Before Wright I thought Obama had the voodoo and nothing could stop him but he is seriously damaged goods and I really do think Hillary would have a better chance in November.
I am a Republican and don't want either Democrat to win but if one of them is going to get elected I would rather it is Hillary (never ever thought I'd ever say that) because Obama's total lack of experience totally terrifies me. (I see 4 yrs of Carter and malaise and Iran hostage type fiascoes if Obama gets elected)
However I don't think Hillary has any chance left to get the nomination and that is too bad for the Democrats and probably too bad for the country.
As for Hillary supporters going for Obama, the exit poll numbers for that are really getting scary for the Democrats, the blood is really getting bad over there.
Steve - Watch and see | 4:11 p.m. May 14, 2008
I disagree that Obama is damaged goods, he's weathering everything thrown at him just fine. And though some Hillary supporters right now say they'd vote for McCain over Obama... just watch and see, come November most of those will have changed their minds and will be stepping up behind Obama after all.

Don't even compare Obama to Carter... unless I'm mistaken, there's a big difference between the two... Obama is much more likeable. Look what he's done with me and other steadfast Republicans... he's managed to make us like him enough to vote for him. So if he can work both sides of the fence this well just in the campaign process, I have faith that he'll for the most part be able to transfer that same talent over into the White House and with Congress/the Senate.
Sam | 8:04 p.m. May 14, 2008
Gee, it's a little more civil than usual over here. The latest polls have Obama beating McCain by 6 points and no one has really even campaigned against McCain yet. There's your "Obama's unelectable".
To Shadow | 12:08 a.m. May 15, 2008
I think it is very bigoted to assume that people who don't support Obama are bigots. I guess you consider all the millions of people who voted for Hillary as bigots. I guess none of us can disagree with Obama because that would make us racists. I like how a candidate who is supposed to be beyond race benifited greatly by people labeling the Clinton's as racists and implying that the Clintons are playing race. I didn't see him stand up and say that is untrue but I do remember people telling Hillary to back off of poor Barack. The only people I see who pull the race card are Obama supporters.

The Democrats say their party can come together before November but I don't see how when you label nearly half of your party voters as racists. It is not just you, I have seen it on other blogs and implied in the media. Obama failing with white voters has more to do with Rev Wright and his god and guns comment than anyone being a bigot.
To Sam | 12:21 a.m. May 15, 2008
Polls mean little in my opinion. It will come down to the electoral map. Can Obama win in Mich, Ohio and Penn. Will he be able to steal any states in the south? Is the party broken beyond repair with the Hillary supporters. I just remember a lot of polls last election had Kerry leading most of the time and he lost. I think it was the same way with Gore but I can't remember that far back.

I think in this race the VP will be an important pick. McCain probably could choose Romney if Mich is in play or the Florida guy (Crisp?) to try and secure Florida. Obama may want to consider Ed Rendell. Even though Rendell is a Hillary supporter he can relax in Penn with Rendell. Just my opinion but feel free to point out any flaws. I like good discussions.
Carter Obama | 11:35 a.m. May 15, 2008
Carter was well liked when elected and seen as a breath of fresh air after Watergate and his "non DC insider" status was seen as a big plus.
His ( miserably disastrous ) presidency showed that being bright or decent or likable or turning a good phrase or having some good ideas is only about 1% of what it take to be an effective President and Leader.
And Carter had actually run a state.

Listen carefully; I am not trying to be rude or cute; Obama has NO practical experience that will be of any use at all should he be elected President.

His resume and career path to this point are, sorry, not that remarkable to begin with and in areas that provide no Presidential preparation.

It gives me no joy to say it because unless he blows it (a possibility I would not discount but also don't count on) he is going to be our next President and that is, literally,
terrifying.

I am a life long Georgia resident and was proud as could be when Jimmy was elected.
Four years later I voted for Reagan.

those who don't learn from history are doomed . . . .
Steve - Obama VP Choice | 12:11 p.m. May 15, 2008
As long as he doesn't pick Hillary I'll be happy... but I will agree that Obama's VP choice will be important. He needs to pick a respected person who appeals to all those in the areas he struggles with (white/older/"working class"/country-folk types). I say "country-folk" to be polite just as the media does when they use "rural" to describe a certain class of people. John Edwards who wisely (and finally) endorsed Obama yesterday just might fit this bill. Does Gov. Sebelius of Kansas fit this bill too? I'm not sure, but she'd be a great choice as well since like Obama she appeals to both Democrats and Republicans.
Steve - Re: Carter Obama | 1:14 p.m. May 15, 2008
Obama isn't Jimmy Carter. Just because the two men MIGHT be similar according to you, that doesn't automatically mean Obama as President will be the same as Carter... where Carter failed, Obama just might succeed. Don't just assume that an Obama Presidency is something to be worried about or terrified over.

I'd feel much better with Obama at the helm than Hillary. This time might be the first I ever vote Democrat as I just plain don't like McCain... but I'm still very much a Republican.

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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., acknowledges supporters after speaking at her West Virginia primary night rally Tuesday. Clinton won the primary and told the cheering crowd this is no time to quit. (Steve Helber, Associated Press)
Steve Helber, Associated Press
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., acknowledges supporters after speaking at her West Virginia primary night rally Tuesday. Clinton won the primary and told the cheering crowd this is no time to quit.