Reader comments: Utah Jazz: Boozer hasn't given up on his offense
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Jazzy Fan for Life | 2:16 p.m. May 6, 2008
Anybody else see a resemblance here: Malone/Stockton-Boozer/Williams. Fearless point guard who tries but can't do it all, All-Star power forward who can't "deliver" when it counts. Just a thought.
joshua | 2:29 p.m. May 6, 2008
Hi we all know they can do it they just to play there game.The got to pass the ball more dont let them drive to the pant.
Sokol | 2:30 p.m. May 6, 2008
When the shots aren't falling, the other power forwards in the league are not afraid to drive
to the rim...
I have heard the comment on Boozer going inside
a hundred times, but does he listen. For that
matter, can the media please ask what he is afraid
of....What Goofy (Gasol) Softie (Odom), or Mefirst (
KOBE and the rest of the Laker Dwarfs?
to the rim...
I have heard the comment on Boozer going inside
a hundred times, but does he listen. For that
matter, can the media please ask what he is afraid
of....What Goofy (Gasol) Softie (Odom), or Mefirst (
KOBE and the rest of the Laker Dwarfs?
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Carlos Snoozer | 3:27 p.m. May 6, 2008
Carlos,
If you are reading this I have a small piece of advice for you. When your mid-range jumpers are not falling TAKE IT TO THE RIM! Stop being a wuss! Use your God given strength and athleticism to drive to the basket. Heck, even Memo has added this to his game and has been fairly effective even though he looks like he has lead weights on his ankles. You are stronger and quicker and we desperately need an inside threat. Please take your game up a notch or ten and humble the Lakers and their insufferable fans.
Thank you,
Loyal Jazz Fan
If you are reading this I have a small piece of advice for you. When your mid-range jumpers are not falling TAKE IT TO THE RIM! Stop being a wuss! Use your God given strength and athleticism to drive to the basket. Heck, even Memo has added this to his game and has been fairly effective even though he looks like he has lead weights on his ankles. You are stronger and quicker and we desperately need an inside threat. Please take your game up a notch or ten and humble the Lakers and their insufferable fans.
Thank you,
Loyal Jazz Fan
Clark | 3:29 p.m. May 6, 2008
I agree. At the first of the game Boozer needs to be determined to take it to the rim. And if he does it fast, like as soon as he gets the ball and catch the defender off guard. At least this would force the refs to call some fouls and let them know we are aggressive on offense too.
magnus | 3:32 p.m. May 6, 2008
@ Jazz Fan for Life
I see the resemblance, especially from the mental aspect, but I think Karl was a better all around player than Boozer and Williams is a better all around player than Stockton.
Karl was twice the defender Boozer will ever be and Stockton never had offensive skills or physical ability like Deron has. That's actually one of the reasons I think this current team is better built for a championship than the Jazz of yester year, because of Derons ability to create offensively it is less of a problem when the big man/leading scorer doesn't deliver in crunch time.
I see the resemblance, especially from the mental aspect, but I think Karl was a better all around player than Boozer and Williams is a better all around player than Stockton.
Karl was twice the defender Boozer will ever be and Stockton never had offensive skills or physical ability like Deron has. That's actually one of the reasons I think this current team is better built for a championship than the Jazz of yester year, because of Derons ability to create offensively it is less of a problem when the big man/leading scorer doesn't deliver in crunch time.
Skeptic | 3:32 p.m. May 6, 2008
These are still YOUNG players facing a more, a much more, veteran team. The Jazz lost Game 1 on two days rest while the Lakers healed up. Big deal.
Boozer could and should play a LOT harder on defense but I don't have a problem with his offensive effort. The turnovers are of much greater concern than the missed shots.
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Boozer could and should play a LOT harder on defense but I don't have a problem with his offensive effort. The turnovers are of much greater concern than the missed shots.
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magnus | 3:43 p.m. May 6, 2008
Before every one thinks I'm bashing Stockton let me make something perfectly clear, I love Stockton, he was amazing and was amd is one of the greatest point guards of all time, we was an amazing competitor and was underated offensively. However, creating offense was never Stocktons game, whether by choice or ability he generally just took what the defense gave him and it usually felt like the only reason he scored was to make it easier for him to pass. Also Stockton was only 6 ft tall and maybe 170lbs if he was just leaving the Hometown Buffet. He didn't have the physical tools that Williams has, and that just makes what he accomplished that much more impressive.
TheHOYT | 4:02 p.m. May 6, 2008
Forget your jumpshot... work on you foul shooting Booz! Go hard to the hole, make em' pay - either from a posterizing lefty-dunk or from the line.
Man-up and punish the Lakers!
Man-up and punish the Lakers!
Reality | 4:08 p.m. May 6, 2008
If these ridiculous turn-overs continue by the Booze why doesn't Jerry bench him or send him to the lockeroom? I don't get it, whats good for the goose is good for the gander Huh! No more than another wasted favorite. Set the crossbar straight Jerry, not slanted--for all, including Harpring. And while I'm at it how about subsituting by how players are playing and not by the clock.
Re: Sokol | 4:24 p.m. May 6, 2008
How does it feel to lose to a bunch of dwarfs. Maybe the Jazz should try to play the Lady Utes.
RE: magnus | 5:40 p.m. May 6, 2008
You analysis is just plain wrong.
Boozer is a better shooter malone had work hard on it, and better rebounder, malone was rather poor rebounder considering his size and strength and boozers lack of size and strength.
I think defensively malone was only marginally better, yes I know malone was the annual nba defensive team a few time, mostly due to his physicality and slapping at the ball and size and strenght. Not on pure ability to defesive ability, but he couldn't block a ball or play defense above the waist. his hands were always down. most of the bigmen in his day more defesinve inclined and not offensive, but he few that were did just fine against him.
Stockton had plenty offensive talent, but he either chose not to use it, was not quick enough, or didn't have the confidence or sloan scared it out of him, who knows.
But size isn't an issue,. Isiah was only 5'11" yet I saw him score 12 points in the last couple of minutes of a game to make his team win. Some players are just goto guys but most just aren't.
Deron has yet show he is goto, just good offensively.
Boozer is a better shooter malone had work hard on it, and better rebounder, malone was rather poor rebounder considering his size and strength and boozers lack of size and strength.
I think defensively malone was only marginally better, yes I know malone was the annual nba defensive team a few time, mostly due to his physicality and slapping at the ball and size and strenght. Not on pure ability to defesive ability, but he couldn't block a ball or play defense above the waist. his hands were always down. most of the bigmen in his day more defesinve inclined and not offensive, but he few that were did just fine against him.
Stockton had plenty offensive talent, but he either chose not to use it, was not quick enough, or didn't have the confidence or sloan scared it out of him, who knows.
But size isn't an issue,. Isiah was only 5'11" yet I saw him score 12 points in the last couple of minutes of a game to make his team win. Some players are just goto guys but most just aren't.
Deron has yet show he is goto, just good offensively.
Enough | 6:28 p.m. May 6, 2008
Why is Boozer always the first Jazz player singled out for his opions by the media? Because he has a big mouth or the others are hiding or what? If this player would walk the walk instead of talk the talk I would be more impressed.
magnus | 6:36 p.m. May 6, 2008
Ok, fair enough.
But what you said and then how you backed it up are two different things. You said I was "dead wrong" but then in your analysis you basicaly only dissagreed with me a little.
I'm sorry but The statistics totally refute your claim that Boozer is a better rebounder than Malone and even before Malone had a decent jumper he was putting up 27 a game, when he started relying on the Jumper his average actually went down a little.
It's pretty clear you agree that Karl was a better defender, the question is just how much better, I say alot, you say a little...meh, how about we meet in the middle.
As far as Stock goes, your first point is pretty much exactly what I said in my second post and in basketball size does matter. Also, I was comparing Williams to Stock and not Isaiah, but Isaiah was also more physically gifted and offensively oriented than Stockton was if that's what you were getting at.
But what you said and then how you backed it up are two different things. You said I was "dead wrong" but then in your analysis you basicaly only dissagreed with me a little.
I'm sorry but The statistics totally refute your claim that Boozer is a better rebounder than Malone and even before Malone had a decent jumper he was putting up 27 a game, when he started relying on the Jumper his average actually went down a little.
It's pretty clear you agree that Karl was a better defender, the question is just how much better, I say alot, you say a little...meh, how about we meet in the middle.
As far as Stock goes, your first point is pretty much exactly what I said in my second post and in basketball size does matter. Also, I was comparing Williams to Stock and not Isaiah, but Isaiah was also more physically gifted and offensively oriented than Stockton was if that's what you were getting at.
PC Jazzfan | 8:11 p.m. May 6, 2008
I expect #5 to break out and hopefully tomorrow -- need that inside physicality. give him some credit he efforts to do all the little things while the shots arent falling. Cmon Booze lets go !!!
Die hard Jazz Fan | 8:45 p.m. May 6, 2008
Go Jazz!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOZER BOOZER | 9:21 p.m. May 6, 2008
boozer faithful here, been a fan since those days At Duke like most jazz fanzz are saying go to the hole u have the skills to get it done, do that and that will make the diff. in the score, and that would mostlikly bring home the Ring that malone mailman couldn't give to the jazz faithfull, and will set u part about the booz vs malone. STEP IT UP like u did at Duke Be the ALL-Star playa thats in U and Now a Few weeks away/closer to the NBA Champ. U as a leader of a great Greater team then that which 32/12 had. Look at this way booz the starting 5 r ALL Stars one way or other lets Get It Rockin GO JAZZ GOOOOOOOO . GO TO THE HOLE and DUNk the Shizzzzz out of the FAKERS
Tank | 9:23 p.m. May 6, 2008
You malcontents are all so perfect...........
Are you serious? | 9:53 p.m. May 6, 2008
First off I HATE THE LAKERS! secondly D-Will is the man. Boozer is a really good player but not great. Malone was the greatest power forward of all time! I can't beleive everyone has forgotten so soon. Did you even watch him play. Unbeleivable on the low block, great hands, great passer, great rebounder, marginal help defender, great position defender. Stockton was great, but Malone WAS the team. Don't ever forget it Jazz fans. The white, nice guy image endeared Stockton to Jazz fans, but Malone was the meal ticket.
jtm | 10:26 p.m. May 6, 2008
Did you say Stockton was nice, give me a break!.
RE: magnus | 11:15 p.m. May 6, 2008
First let me say I love the Jazz, and the new Williams/Boozer duo. However, how do you classify Deron as a better overall player than Stockton? Stockton is the NBA's all-time leader in assist and steals. If that doesn't make him the best "true" point guard of all-time, I don't know what does. He did exactly what a point-guard is on the court to do every game. Deron is far less reliable/consistant at this time than Stockton was every night on both sides of the court. I doubt Deron, or anybody else, will be catching Stockton statistically for a very long time. However, Deron is off to a better start than Stockton was during his first three years. Only time will tell how this debate will turn out I guess.
Much of the same goes for the Boozer/Malone comparison. The success of the current team will come from a deeper supporting cast I think.
It will be fun debate here for a long time, however I think it is too soon, and unfair to Williams/Boozer.
Much of the same goes for the Boozer/Malone comparison. The success of the current team will come from a deeper supporting cast I think.
It will be fun debate here for a long time, however I think it is too soon, and unfair to Williams/Boozer.
magnus | 10:40 a.m. May 7, 2008
RE: re:magnus
Now there is an argument I can buy into.
You are right of course about the big picture, what Stockton accomplished is absolutely amazing and he played at a high level for 19 years so IF anybody ever catches him it will take them their whole career to do so.
I had forgoten about the steals, that's an amazing statistic.
My thinking kind of started with what you said about Deron being a little ahead of where Stock was at this point in his career and I also think that Deron has a higher ceiling because of his athleticism and physical tools, but like you said, it's a little to early to tell if he will ever reach that ceiling.
As far as Boozer goes I think we are far enough into his career now to get a good comparison to Malone, so I'll stand by that one. Thats not to say I don't like Boozer, quite the opposite, I think he is one of the best (top 10) PF in the league right now and I am glad we have him and hope we keep him.
Now there is an argument I can buy into.
You are right of course about the big picture, what Stockton accomplished is absolutely amazing and he played at a high level for 19 years so IF anybody ever catches him it will take them their whole career to do so.
I had forgoten about the steals, that's an amazing statistic.
My thinking kind of started with what you said about Deron being a little ahead of where Stock was at this point in his career and I also think that Deron has a higher ceiling because of his athleticism and physical tools, but like you said, it's a little to early to tell if he will ever reach that ceiling.
As far as Boozer goes I think we are far enough into his career now to get a good comparison to Malone, so I'll stand by that one. Thats not to say I don't like Boozer, quite the opposite, I think he is one of the best (top 10) PF in the league right now and I am glad we have him and hope we keep him.
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