Reader comments: West Valley pair freezes after car gets stuck
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shadow | 6:23 a.m. Feb. 26, 2008
Oh, this is so sad and tragic. My condolences to all involved.
M.M. | 7:15 a.m. Feb. 26, 2008
??? WHY IS the DMN publishing this tragic event that happened a year ago.....Feb. 2007 ???
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CC | 7:47 a.m. Feb. 26, 2008
Read the date at the top. It was published last year.
Anonymous | 7:48 a.m. Feb. 26, 2008
This is very sad.....please any one who travels through remote areas and sparcely populated areas plan for any emergency and never leave the shelter of your car especially in bad weather conditions.....this can many times be the difference between life and death.
AS a minimum please take a metal pot or coffee can, matches, a small mirror, a pocket knife several bottles of water per person, a rolled up newspaper, two or three small candles, a small flashlight with extra batteries. Dried food items such as nuts, jerky, hard candy, dried friut, dried soup packets and packaged hot chocalate. These are easy and inexpensive items that do not take up much space but could easily sustain anyone for several days to a couple of weeks. Water is the most important item since you can go without food much longer. Nearly as important, especially in winter, is shelter. Never leave your car and walk if you have the means to sustain yourselve for two to three days or more. It's ok to scout your surrondings but don't wander far and only do so in good weather conditions.
To the Palmer family I am so very sorry for your loss.
AS a minimum please take a metal pot or coffee can, matches, a small mirror, a pocket knife several bottles of water per person, a rolled up newspaper, two or three small candles, a small flashlight with extra batteries. Dried food items such as nuts, jerky, hard candy, dried friut, dried soup packets and packaged hot chocalate. These are easy and inexpensive items that do not take up much space but could easily sustain anyone for several days to a couple of weeks. Water is the most important item since you can go without food much longer. Nearly as important, especially in winter, is shelter. Never leave your car and walk if you have the means to sustain yourselve for two to three days or more. It's ok to scout your surrondings but don't wander far and only do so in good weather conditions.
To the Palmer family I am so very sorry for your loss.
SLCgal | 7:50 a.m. Feb. 26, 2008
Um.. it was published a year ago. Why it's up at the top now, who knows? What a reminder about the need for cell phones...
Matthew | 7:57 a.m. Feb. 26, 2008
They published it a year ago, that's why. Look at the dateline. The computer posted it on the popular list because it was popular, meaning a bunch of people were viewing it.
Who knows why but it happens all the time. People post comments asking why the Deseret Morning News is dealing in old news all the time too. People just don't learn to read the whole article. When and who wrote it are very important pieces of information
Who knows why but it happens all the time. People post comments asking why the Deseret Morning News is dealing in old news all the time too. People just don't learn to read the whole article. When and who wrote it are very important pieces of information
Anonymous | 9:59 a.m. Feb. 26, 2008
'Anonymous' comments left out one of the most important, common-sense advise to the list mentioned. That the lack of
winter clothing and heavy blankets in the vehicle. I'm from Oregon and it always baffles me why so many people think the whole USA is florida year-round. They drive out in the wilderness areas, climb Mt. Hood, and you rarely see someone 'bundle up' during the winter season. Must be some vanity thing that doesn't serve them well when an emergency situation comes up. I really get frustrated whenever I read "They were neither one dressed for the very cold weather". Also not comment brought up this matter of wearing winter clothing in a wintry place Utah that could have given along with the other things mentioned a better chance for survival. I never read this article before so I'm glad they reprinted it perhaps to wake people up to the common sense realities that Mother Nature isn't to be made light of after long exposure.
winter clothing and heavy blankets in the vehicle. I'm from Oregon and it always baffles me why so many people think the whole USA is florida year-round. They drive out in the wilderness areas, climb Mt. Hood, and you rarely see someone 'bundle up' during the winter season. Must be some vanity thing that doesn't serve them well when an emergency situation comes up. I really get frustrated whenever I read "They were neither one dressed for the very cold weather". Also not comment brought up this matter of wearing winter clothing in a wintry place Utah that could have given along with the other things mentioned a better chance for survival. I never read this article before so I'm glad they reprinted it perhaps to wake people up to the common sense realities that Mother Nature isn't to be made light of after long exposure.
deseretnews.com moderator | 10:23 a.m. Feb. 26, 2008
As some of our readers have noticed, this is an archive story from Feb. 2007. It has not been reprinted. It is showing up in our most popular list because readers have found the story through email or other web sites links.
Mountain High | 9:11 a.m. Feb. 27, 2008
Ref: Anonymous from Oregon commenting on Anonymous.
Believe it or not, some people have common sense enough to dress for the weather, as I think was being implied and naturally assumed by the author. Must there always be a critic in the crowd, zealously willing to point out their own interpretations of every bloggers "assumed shortsightedness. I believe the author said, and I quote, "As a minimum etc. etc. etc. Wouldn't your input have been more refreshingly viewed if you had merely added the items you mentioned as part of a significant amount of other possible additons to the list. At least the other anonymous expressed some compassion to the Palmer family.
Believe it or not, some people have common sense enough to dress for the weather, as I think was being implied and naturally assumed by the author. Must there always be a critic in the crowd, zealously willing to point out their own interpretations of every bloggers "assumed shortsightedness. I believe the author said, and I quote, "As a minimum etc. etc. etc. Wouldn't your input have been more refreshingly viewed if you had merely added the items you mentioned as part of a significant amount of other possible additons to the list. At least the other anonymous expressed some compassion to the Palmer family.
Rich | 4:40 p.m. Feb. 27, 2008
Don't forget the cell phone, either. It might not have helped in this case -- I don't know the cell phone coverage in that area, but countless lives have been saved by someone's being able to call out on a cell phone.
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Hopefully their story combined with the recent GOOD news of the lost couple being found alive that ventured , like the Palmers , into UTAH's snowy wilderness in the winter helps others from making the same mistake .
We'll never know how many people will use better judgement in the future and be saved by this story.
GOD BLESS