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Well | 4:27 p.m. July 17, 2009
looks like it's time for Millsap to really show us what he is all about,
this coming season. Time to raise the bar Millsap.
STEVE-O | 4:34 p.m. July 17, 2009
@ Miles...
I agree with your assessment of Blair. He's playing cream puffs right now. Our boy Maynor (drafted well ahead of Blair) didn't throw up those numbers though. And he's playing the same crappy competition.
I do think San Antonio has a nack for drafting good players though. I guess time will tell us if Blair will hold up or not?
And I didn't ever say the Jazz would be much improved from last year. I simply said they will be fine.
I just don't go along with the people who act like the sky is falling because the Jazz still have some pretty decent players. We just gotta figure out how to dump CJ!!! 4 Million for 15 minutes a game and 3-10 shooting is not cheap.
I agree with your assessment of Blair. He's playing cream puffs right now. Our boy Maynor (drafted well ahead of Blair) didn't throw up those numbers though. And he's playing the same crappy competition.
I do think San Antonio has a nack for drafting good players though. I guess time will tell us if Blair will hold up or not?
And I didn't ever say the Jazz would be much improved from last year. I simply said they will be fine.
I just don't go along with the people who act like the sky is falling because the Jazz still have some pretty decent players. We just gotta figure out how to dump CJ!!! 4 Million for 15 minutes a game and 3-10 shooting is not cheap.
CJ | 4:53 p.m. July 17, 2009
We should know what should be changed by the middle of the season. I just hope
the Jazz have some flex at that point and can get what they need.
So far CJ is okay as a back up. However, his play last year was not good enough as a starter. He played good D sometimes. He shot well sometimes. He had flashes. He needs a break out year.
Millsap changes the dynamics of the Sloan system. More points have to come from the SG/SF.
Harp and his toughness is gone. Korver is not going to change much. Brewer is not likely to turn into Kobe. AK may have to back up or even play PF if Okur or Millsap get hurt.
CJ has to have a break out year. Or the Jazz need to get a real good SG/SF.
Koufos needs dramatic improvement. He will be the back up PF/C unless the Jazz get a PF/C. I think he can back up Okur. The Jazz need a decent back PF.
Koufos and Thomas's Eff40 and WP40s are very similar.
The Jazz lack depth, a go to shooter, defense and outside shooting.
So far CJ is okay as a back up. However, his play last year was not good enough as a starter. He played good D sometimes. He shot well sometimes. He had flashes. He needs a break out year.
Millsap changes the dynamics of the Sloan system. More points have to come from the SG/SF.
Harp and his toughness is gone. Korver is not going to change much. Brewer is not likely to turn into Kobe. AK may have to back up or even play PF if Okur or Millsap get hurt.
CJ has to have a break out year. Or the Jazz need to get a real good SG/SF.
Koufos needs dramatic improvement. He will be the back up PF/C unless the Jazz get a PF/C. I think he can back up Okur. The Jazz need a decent back PF.
Koufos and Thomas's Eff40 and WP40s are very similar.
The Jazz lack depth, a go to shooter, defense and outside shooting.
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Shaybo | 6:22 p.m. July 17, 2009
re: STEVE-O
I may be dumb but read my lips: Millsaps contract is the one that put us way over the Luxury tax Period. I'm glad your math is so good that the blame goes to the guys making 1 to 2 million per year yes this is all the fault of Fez, Price and Kuofus. Thanks for clearing that up.
I'm sorry but your idea of getting rid of an all-star for nothing to keep his backup at an inflated price doesn't set right with me.
I may be dumb but read my lips: Millsaps contract is the one that put us way over the Luxury tax Period. I'm glad your math is so good that the blame goes to the guys making 1 to 2 million per year yes this is all the fault of Fez, Price and Kuofus. Thanks for clearing that up.
I'm sorry but your idea of getting rid of an all-star for nothing to keep his backup at an inflated price doesn't set right with me.
Jazzsmack | 7:26 p.m. July 17, 2009
And the Jazz management CONTINUE to over PAY and OVER value, the talent on
their team,
and CONTINUE to give BIG CONTRACTS to role players, supporting players, complementary players at best,
leaving them no money and dependent on late first round draft choices,
to fill critical spots,
when they need the money for a star 2 guard who can shoot and handle the ball and make things happen,
or a true dominant big man that is tall, long, and can play defense.
that and lack of a system that actually USES the talents needed to win a championship,
it's no wonder they have NEVER won a championship.
and CONTINUE to give BIG CONTRACTS to role players, supporting players, complementary players at best,
leaving them no money and dependent on late first round draft choices,
to fill critical spots,
when they need the money for a star 2 guard who can shoot and handle the ball and make things happen,
or a true dominant big man that is tall, long, and can play defense.
that and lack of a system that actually USES the talents needed to win a championship,
it's no wonder they have NEVER won a championship.
JAZZFAN | 8:22 p.m. July 17, 2009
I remamber quite a winning streak last year we had just before the allstar break
and after with Milsap and how the Jazz fell apart when Boozer came back, Boozer
killed the chemistry,Boozer plays defense like a 9 year old girl, I'd take
Milsap anyday over Boozer, at least milsap plays hard and with alot of heart
somthing the Jazz seem to Be lacking, If he can get the other players to match
his intensity the jazz will be just fine, ronnie price was a great signing too
remember him in the last game against the Lakers? energy and heart. give me
players like that and not the premaddonas we see haow boozer was right? Milsap
was an excellent sign he is more than just a player he will be a beast, just you
wait
pastor88 | 12:13 a.m. July 18, 2009
Many still want to believe millys contract is fair.
I still want Santa to bring me a new Hummer with a redhead. But believing in that and the contract is just ridiculous.
Many better players were and still are available for less money. Most with better season long averages. Ariza, Artest and Odom are all superior. granted Odom wants 10 mil, but for 2 mil extra look at the difference in offensive and defensive abilities. Ariza and Artest both signed for less money, didn't they? What about birdman 5 mil per year and great defense, as well as some offense?
KOC simply got caught sleeping with his pants down.
Has KOC given us any real players since coming to Utah? What are his percentages? Maybe his pay should be based on performance
I still want Santa to bring me a new Hummer with a redhead. But believing in that and the contract is just ridiculous.
Many better players were and still are available for less money. Most with better season long averages. Ariza, Artest and Odom are all superior. granted Odom wants 10 mil, but for 2 mil extra look at the difference in offensive and defensive abilities. Ariza and Artest both signed for less money, didn't they? What about birdman 5 mil per year and great defense, as well as some offense?
KOC simply got caught sleeping with his pants down.
Has KOC given us any real players since coming to Utah? What are his percentages? Maybe his pay should be based on performance
STEVE-O | 1:25 p.m. July 18, 2009
Shaybo...
Boozer doesn't want to play here anymore!! He asked to be traded!! The other alternative to "getting rid of an all-star for nothing to keep his backup at an inflated price" is to let him leave as a free agent for LITERALLY nothing. So you either pay a bunch of luxury tax money to keep a player for ONE more year, even though he doesn't want to be here.... OR .... you trade him to get out of the luxury tax mess and get something in return. I understand Haslem, Tyrus Thomas, and other offers we've heard aren't equal value. But like I said... it's that or NOTHING at all. You tell me what makes more sense.
Boozer doesn't want to play here anymore!! He asked to be traded!! The other alternative to "getting rid of an all-star for nothing to keep his backup at an inflated price" is to let him leave as a free agent for LITERALLY nothing. So you either pay a bunch of luxury tax money to keep a player for ONE more year, even though he doesn't want to be here.... OR .... you trade him to get out of the luxury tax mess and get something in return. I understand Haslem, Tyrus Thomas, and other offers we've heard aren't equal value. But like I said... it's that or NOTHING at all. You tell me what makes more sense.
STEVE-O | 1:48 p.m. July 18, 2009
Pastor88...
Odom's ave numbers for last year are: 12.3 pts, 9.1 rebs, 1.6 assists
Millsap's numbers are 11.8 pts, 8.0 rebs, 1.6 assists.
Hardly worth another 2 million for an extra .5 pts, 1.1 rebs! And I didn't check the per minute stats but I'm sure it's gotta be similar. Odom is pretty equal to Millsap. Just 5 years older!
Odom's ave numbers for last year are: 12.3 pts, 9.1 rebs, 1.6 assists
Millsap's numbers are 11.8 pts, 8.0 rebs, 1.6 assists.
Hardly worth another 2 million for an extra .5 pts, 1.1 rebs! And I didn't check the per minute stats but I'm sure it's gotta be similar. Odom is pretty equal to Millsap. Just 5 years older!
CJ3 | 9:20 p.m. July 18, 2009
Oh yeah, Millsap is JUST like Odom...
Only much shorter, with a LOT less range, and can't stay on the floor for 36 minutes, due to to an egregious foul rate, like Lamar did 5 years ago.
Not a fair comparison to either one of em.
Millsap relies on his hustle and hard work to get it done, while Odom was blessed with a game that comes to him more easily.
Only much shorter, with a LOT less range, and can't stay on the floor for 36 minutes, due to to an egregious foul rate, like Lamar did 5 years ago.
Not a fair comparison to either one of em.
Millsap relies on his hustle and hard work to get it done, while Odom was blessed with a game that comes to him more easily.
Brandon | 10:00 p.m. July 18, 2009
Wow you guys are complaining about giving a non proven player 10 million dollars
a year.. pretty sure when we decided to give Boozer a Woppin 13 mill a year.. he
averaged 15 and 10 the year before... uh... Millsap averaged 14 and 9 last year
guys.. and for 10 mill the first year.. which is actually gonna turn out to be
8 mill a year.. Do your research before you make stupid comments
Meh | 10:07 p.m. July 18, 2009
Oh and the Dallas guy who commented a few days ago... "I use to value
Millsaps toughness, but between his agent reps and the signed Blazers
contract... I'm not a big fan anymore. He has a lot to prove and I
don't think he can do it." Are you serious? Your gonna take a couple
hundred thousand to play for the Jazz instead of 8 million a year for the
Blazers? That was the dumbest statemtent I have ever heard!!! Grow up and quit
talking sports
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