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Utah Jazz match Portland offer to Millsap

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King Black | 7:03 p.m. July 16, 2009
Gosh dang it people how many times do they gotta say its 32 million over 4 years whith 10 up front meaning the rest will add up to just about around to 6.5 to 7 million a year
Re: MK | 7:05 p.m. July 16, 2009
That's also why you're not GM, either. Teams saw how he did in the playoffs. He averaged 23/13. I don't recall him being injured in Cleveland, do you? Sometimes being under constant scrutiny makes you nervous, right? When you play nervous or tense then you do things that you don't normally do. If Boozer goes to a new team then there will be much less pressure.

We Jazz fans are pretty hard on players. Cavs fans have been really hard on him as well. I'm not sure how he'll ever fix that, unless he somehow goes back to the Cavs and they go on to win a title. ;-)
MK | 7:06 p.m. July 16, 2009
Ugh You are right about CJ Miles....UGGHHH!
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Same situation as AK? | 7:07 p.m. July 16, 2009
I love hearing people comparing Millsap's offer to AK's contract. Millsap won't ever be earning 16 million in one season. This contract will not hurt the Jazz in future years like AK's has. Like several have already said after the signing bonus, this contract is just under 7 million a year. The contract is front loaded not back loaded. I would much rather have Millsap's heart and skill for 7 million than Boozer's skill and injuries for 13.
Joe Cool | 7:08 p.m. July 16, 2009
Great news. I know all NBA players are over paid but Millsap is a big step away from sore hammy boozer. Now all they must do is get rid of Boozer for a suitable backup to Millsap.
BeauDak | 7:13 p.m. July 16, 2009
I am glad that the Jazz matched Portland's offer. I don't think the Jazz overpaid Millsap at all. Financially, he will hurt us next year.

As far as Boozer. The trade to get him out of town most likely will be based on finances, because of Millsap's bonus. I am fine with that, I just hope we get a young player, expiring contract and a draft pick or two.

I wouldn't be surprised if Miami landed him, because the Heat need Booz more than any other team (They want to resign D-Wade). I just hope we do get a Memphis or Portland involved with some young players coming here to SLC...I am not thrilled by Haslem and James Jones.

I guess, we'll have to wait and see!
goutes | 7:15 p.m. July 16, 2009
now go get hinrich, salmons, and tyrus thomas for boozer, miles and korver and maybe 1st rounder. what are your thoughts on this trade. we need defense and shooters which we would get in this trade and would get rid of boozer. i say some how we try to offer odom 5 yr 50-55 mil just what he wants and maybe he'll accept it. or i say we trade boozer and ak for a bunch of draft picks so we get young talent along with the knicks lotto pick. any other suggestions in where we get cap releif, shooters and defense so we can stretch the d for milly inside for years to come??
annonymous | 7:15 p.m. July 16, 2009
how long will it take for the jazz to pull off a carlos boozer trade i hope it is soon we need to get rid of him so millsap can start and get a back up

go millsap congrads you got what you deserve
Mike | 7:16 p.m. July 16, 2009
Hey Jazz fans Why don't we keep Boozer until after our December swoon when we need him in the on that long eastern road trip.

He will have to put up all star numbers as he knows he had no time left on the IR.

Then find some team stretching to get in the playoffs (New York) and drop Boozer and his contract on them. (He will be out with a hang nail within the first five games after the trade)

This will also help us with next years lottery pick because when Boozer lands in New York they will go on the longest loosing streak and not win another game for the rest of the season.

Get David Lee in return and leave New York with the Loozer's contract.

Millsap will be with us rested and ready for the reat of the season.
Chips n' Salsa | 7:16 p.m. July 16, 2009
I've heard the rumor for the Jazz-Heat trade is Boozer for Udonis Haslem and James Jones and then we will trade C.J. Miles later this summer (when his restriction is lifted) for the Heat's two Trade Exceptions, thus saving us some money.

It's not the best, but ya'll think?
Dick of the NW | 7:27 p.m. July 16, 2009
Here are the numbers: 32mil total - up front bonus -5.6 = 26.4 divided by 4 = an average of 6.6 mil over 4 years.
The ave. contract is within what is being signed around the league; not the lowest but not the highest. Now to get a good player back for boozer. Looks like a fun Summer to watch all the moves around the league. GO JAZZ!
@Chips n' Salsa | 7:27 p.m. July 16, 2009
I've heard the same rumor. I'd rather do a sign and trade with the Knicks for David Lee if the price is right. We might also have to take back Eddy Curry.

I won't be surprised if there's a three-team trade lurking around the corner. Portland and Memphis could help us shed some salary.

I don't know? Wait and see I guess.
Cam'ron | 7:39 p.m. July 16, 2009
We all knew this was coming so don't act shocked. Now we need to work out a deal for Booz and bring in Tyrus Thomas. That will be a solid backup of Millsaps and then we can move AK cause Thomas plays the exact same way. I'd even trade AK for Mcgrady and then we can make a move in 2010. T Mac can help CJ and Ronnie also and teach them the scoring ways and we will be solid. Tyrus Thomas also came up big and showed a lot in the playoffs against Boston and if hornacek works with him more often i think he could produce a solid jump shot and be great.
Cowboy Joe is right | 7:46 p.m. July 16, 2009
Cowboy Joe said it right. We do take a hit this year but the following years Millsap is a good bet to be a great value at under $7m/year. Agree we need to move Boozer but I am not so sure this is such a bad way to go...and I would bet the Jazz brass are thinking the same.
todd from santa ana | 8:00 p.m. July 16, 2009
Now we can trade Booz for Haslam and Kiri for McGrady. Lets experiment like the 95 Champion Rockets
Fernando Arias | 8:07 p.m. July 16, 2009
Once again, we see bad journalism in action in the report that it was suggested Millsap would rather not play in Utah.

Since when have the declarations of agents trying (more or less poorly) to represent their client to be taken at face value.

Does anyone really think Paul Millsap is so stupid he thinks the Jazz should have negotiated with themselves instead of letting the process play out?

Does anyone really think Milsap is not fully aware of how well the Jazz have done for him and how unlikely it would have been for him to progress this much with any other team?

This article descended into the usual "nobody likes Utah" paranoid nonsense and that's a complete shame.

But then again so is bad journalism.
Anonymous | 8:29 p.m. July 16, 2009
Milsap's agents are a bunch of knuckleheads. The only dissapointment from the resigning of Paul that I have is those two agents will somehow get paid.
re Camron | 8:35 p.m. July 16, 2009
Do you really believe Tracy will teach somebody? He is one of really bad selfish person. he';s team never been winning team. With AK any team will win but Jazz with jerry.
Anonymous | 9:00 p.m. July 16, 2009
what about the following trades for boozer.

Joe Johnson from ATL
Prince and Hamilton for Boozer, Harpring and Miles
Koufos | 9:06 p.m. July 16, 2009
Your time has come. Study Boozer's moves, particularly his quick first step and his left hand moves. You almost always go to your right and are way to predictable. That makes you easy to defend. Work on your jumper. It needs more arch. It is to easy to block.

The Jazz will need more playing time out of you at both C and PF. Okur is going to have some injury nights. Boozer will not be there to play C and Millsap is too short to play C most of the time. Millsap may also have a few injury nights at PF.

You need to pull a Brewer and really come thru early.

basketball legend | 9:09 p.m. July 16, 2009
take Hinrich. That's a good deal for Boozer.
jumpinjax!!!!!!! | 9:23 p.m. July 16, 2009
Brains People please!!!!!! If you look at his contract not the signing bonus Millsap is only making the mid-level exception basicly, and if the jazz would of been smart enough to offer him a deal first they probably wouldnt have to pay the signing bonus in the first place! A bunch of you are trying to say Millsaps contributions arent even worth mid-level exception money, (WOW). To bad they didnt draft the robounding machine known as Dejuan Blair to back him up.We really needed a third-string pg lol.
The real question is  | 9:28 p.m. July 16, 2009
not the Millsap signing, it is whether the Jazz are willing to upgrade the roster into a contender inspite of being in the lux tax.

The NBA has shifted. If you want to contend you pay the lux tax. Will Utah get the talent it needs or will we hear more continuity nonsense?

Boozer insures that there will be no real continuity. Will the Jazz get talent or cost cutting out of the Boozer trade?

Playing Millsap at PF changes the dynamics of the other positions. He is too short. He can't run the pick and roll (unless he learns fast the Jazz are hurt badly), he can't defend tall athletic PFs (neither could Boozer). Millsap will not open up the floor like Boozer.

The Jazz sorely need a SG who can shoot and create his own shot. They need a much stronger contribution from SF especially if AK has to play back up PF.

Price will lose games as the back up PG. Let's hope Maynor is a fast learner and Sloan is smarter than most of us think.

Sloan/Johnson are going to have to customize the system to Millsap. That has limitations.
Harry Carey | 9:32 p.m. July 16, 2009
The trade I like for Boozer is Hinrich and Jerome James for Boozer and Miles. The Jazz then ship James to Memphis for a future 2nd round pick and cash considerations.
Big Tommy | 9:35 p.m. July 16, 2009
Why would the Jazz pass on a proven high performer like Blair and take a high level unproven player in their first round pick. I like maynor, but Blair would have been an outstanding pick up even if he only can give you 20 minutes a night due to bad knees. I still can't believe the Jazz did not buy into the 2nd round and make the steal of the draft.
Who is the go to guy | 9:37 p.m. July 16, 2009
now? Not Millsap. The team defense has to be upgraded. That includes the exterior defense.

CJ needs to attack the rim, rebound and play more like AK only with a better outside shot. He is a real weakness at this point. He has to improve or he needs to be traded.

Korver is not going to get much better. He needs his own special plays. That is a serious coaching problem. Brewer needs to improve his shot.

The team is a lot more dependent on Okur now. He does not match up well with 1/2 of the Cs. Koufos or maybe Fez have to step up. Or Boozer needs to be traded for a very good PF/C and a shooting SG preferably young cheap talent the Jazz can afford to hang onto. Forget the salary problems. Pay to get a shot at a ring.

Maybe POR goes after Odom now. That will not help them much but will hurt LA a lot.

Forget continuity that is PR. Make the moves to get the talent to fix the problems. Continuity is gone now. It will never be the same team as before and will not function like it did.
OrlandoJazzFan | 9:41 p.m. July 16, 2009
KOC - Two words - Rip Hamilton
J-Slade | 9:51 p.m. July 16, 2009
This won't make the Jazz contenders this year (probably borderline playoff team), but hopefully it positions the Jazz to move up into serious contention in the next 2 or 3 years. With our without a healthy Boozer, the Jazz were still missing a strong wing scorer/defender and a strong low-post defensive presence. Those needs don't change in this resigning. Hopefully we see Koufos blossom to take care of at least one of those needs.
Stackhouse anyone??? | 9:56 p.m. July 16, 2009
If we can get a team to take Miles in with the Boozer trade, what do you think of going after Stack? He'd be cheap, a veteran in the locker room, and a real shooter.
everyone | 9:59 p.m. July 16, 2009
get rid of boozer quick, before he is hurt again!
Shaybo | 9:59 p.m. July 16, 2009
I told you so, people out there are not smart enough to add $10 mil + $10 mil luxury tax = $20 mil = $42 mil for the contract. Trading away a better player than Millsap for nothing to ease the Luxury Tax doesn't make things better.
Heath | 10:02 p.m. July 16, 2009
Mixed feelings here.

First--stop dogging the Jazz management. They have given us competitive teams year after year and they will continue to do so.

I agree with listening to Derron Williams. He is our franchise and our future. He is also a smart player who knows how to win. If he wants to keep Milsap, I do.

Yes it is scary to pay that much for Milsap, but I do believe he can be great. I am still crossing my fingers for Boozer to the Pistons for Hamilton.
JazzHater72 | 10:02 p.m. July 16, 2009
Mark Eaton, Greg Ostertag, Carlo Boozer, Etc......What a dumb Move!!!!!
jumpinjax | 10:02 p.m. July 16, 2009
Hey real question,I have to respectfully disagree but Price is the perfect backup and if I recall almost won game 5 for us, along with Millsap that is.I do agree about millsap not being able to guard taller pfs. Hopefully they can have Krilenko do some of that, you know he was an allstar at pf before boozer came. Brewer is the answer at sg. I dont have any faith in the jazz doing the right things either but there future relies on finding some young high draft talent that comes cheap for Ak and Booz we both agree there
Don't help Portland ... | 10:05 p.m. July 16, 2009
by including them in a 3-way trade! I agree Boozer for Rip is the best deal.
jwh | 10:09 p.m. July 16, 2009
Great Job Jazz Management. With the season ending the way it did for the jazz, it was evident that their were team problems (likely Boozer) that caused the 8 of 10 game loss at the end of the season. Team chemistry was not good. It was evident that Boozer was not a team player when he insisted he was a starter. Great to be confident, but with his injury and eventual come back, the team was made stronger for a while until his selfish attitude destroyed the team. Now Milsap can shine. His work ethic will make better than boozer when all is said and done. With the development of the younger talent and hopefully adding a few leadership quality veterans, they will compete just fine. I think the Jazz are getting off pretty cheap with Milsap's contract. No comparison to AK's. Go Jazz, they will be funner to watch now.
Boozer for Bogut | 10:24 p.m. July 16, 2009
I'm a BYU fan... but a BIG fan of Bogut. Sure he was banged up last year... BUT...He can pass, rebound, defend, and has the length to defend Gasol, Duncan, Howard ect. He would also probably enjoy a return to his college stomping grounds.

Not sure that the Bucks would do it... But if they are concerned about his back spasms of last year they might want to cut bait. We would have to be concerned as well... But if healthy at least he give us a fighting chance!
todd from santa ana | 10:27 p.m. July 16, 2009
If the Jazz take on Hamilton's contract, they woill putting themselves over the luxury tax for the next two years if they keep AK. The only way for this deal to work is to trade harpring and booz for hamilton, then harpring to Memphis for it to work with the Jazz giving up a 2nd rounder and cash considerations.
akk | 10:28 p.m. July 16, 2009
I like Milsap but this pretty much gaurantees us not getting any better. We needed to upgrade the 2 and add some legnth in the front court. Can't do it now... too bad. If we help Portland get Hinrich for just Thomas I will puke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm All For | 10:35 p.m. July 16, 2009
Bogut for Boozer. Great idea!
Anonymous | 10:43 p.m. July 16, 2009
hm too bad for Jazz. Portland did good job bluffing. Paul isn't worth that much.
Just Me | 10:46 p.m. July 16, 2009
Yikes! Overpaid! This isnt going to be good news for the future. We will always be an 8th seed until they make better changes.
jumpinjax | 10:57 p.m. July 16, 2009
Really guys Rip Hamilton? Do we really need another huge contract while we are trying to dump some? Why is everyone so down on brewer anyway so he doesnt shoot threes, we have Korver,Williams and Okur for that last time i looked.
Re: Todd from Santa Ana | 11:08 p.m. July 16, 2009
Actually, Harpring has already told the local media that he's considering retirement and would retire before the trade deadline to save the Jazz from having all of his salary on the books for the year. Boozer to Detroit for Rip saves $1.4 million. Harpring leaving before February saves $3 million (he'd still get $3 million). The Jazz get a kickback of $6 million from the players this month because of the collective bargaining agreement. There's your $10.4 million to cover Millsap for the year. The trade for Hamilton makes perfect sense from a competitiveness standpoint and leaves the Jazz only a few million over the cap if they can convince Harpring to retire.
Miles | 11:20 p.m. July 16, 2009
If Millsap is so good, why are trying to trade Boozer for another PF? Wouldn't it make more sense to trade Boozer for a shooter?
Reality Check | 11:21 p.m. July 16, 2009
The Jazz are at 81 Million in salary (includes Millsap). However, they played most of last year without Boozer (12.7 million) and Harp (6.5 million). They made the playoffs and would have had the 6th seed if Boozer had not come back.

Millsap counts 7.7 million against the cap this year.

The Jazz will have

PF Millsap/AK/Koufos
C Okur/Koufos/Fez
SF AK/CJ
SG Brewer/KK
PG DWill/Price/Maynor

KK/CJ/Brewer can rotate among SG/SF as needed.

The weakest links are Price and CJ. This is not an ideal team but it is a playoff team.

The Jazz have 19+ million in Boozer/Harp to fix the salary cap and get some better players.

The Jazz could go and get two 2nd/3rd year players at PF and SG/SF who can shoot and defend for reasonable and still get rid of much of the salary problem.

Or they could get a good vet at SG/SF. They could rent a Vet PF for this year. I would like for them to get the PF of the future during the next year or two. Someone who is younger and reasonable.

jumpinjax | 11:27 p.m. July 16, 2009
You must be thinking of the rip from 2 years ago because as of right now Brewer is a much better player
Harp is non guaranteed | 11:44 p.m. July 16, 2009
His full 6.5 does not count.

The Jazz have to decide if they want to contend. They can get under the lux tax and make the playoffs or they can go get the players they need to improve the defense, the road wins and the back to backs.

They really need a good young back up PF for insurance. Okur and AK are going to have minor injuries. What if Millsap gets hurt? He is not the PF of the future anyway. That needs to be fixed this year or next.

CJ needs to step up, or Korver needs to be traded for a shooter who can defend (or both traded).

The Jazz have 13 players now but without Boozer and Harp they will have to add back.

The Jazz are fully capable of stealing a young promising SG/SF who can shoot and defend and the PF of the future in the fire sales of Feb or in FA next year.

How are the Euro projects doing? Is one of them ready?

The Jazz are in better long run shape than thought. They are only overpaying Millsap 1.5 million.

Go get the talent at PF/SG.
Too Bad! | 11:50 p.m. July 16, 2009
Portland wanted to stick it to the predictable Jazz with no intention of actually getting or playing Millsap and the Jazz fell for it. Too bad we could not of had the guts to stick Portland with that inflated contract in a decreasing salary cap market!

Think about it, Kobey, Gasol, Odom & Bynum vs Williams, Okur, Millsap and Korver. NO COMPARISON! The Jazz have strapped themselves for years and guaranteed mediocre seasons. I could have lived with 1 down year and tested the fee agent market of 2010 for a hope at building a Western Finals contender but the Jazz could not see the big picture! Oh well, 6-8 seed here we come,(for years to come) YIPEE!
Pator88 | 12:49 a.m. July 17, 2009
Many want to discount the signing bonus after it is paid. Bottom line is it is included. so changing numbers to make it look better doesnt help.You add in the luxury tax @ dollar per dollar and this is a huge impact and if nothing is done that also needs to be included on Milsaps contract. Better players are taking less than MLE.Milsaps contract could cost as much as 15-20 million when you add the luxury tax.KOC lacks initiative to get the right personnel at the right price. I thought this was a business. Why are they letting players decide who comes and who goes. Plenty of players with like or better upside for half the price.

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