Milsap's backup | 12:13 p.m. July 16, 2009
"Udonis Haslem"? The Irony of trading Boozer for Milsap's backup, If you throw away value just because everyone is not completly happy you will never win a title. I always thought if we had kept Dantley and Green we would have had a couple of titles by now. I would like to trade Boozer for a quality two guard instead or not trade him at all.
If Boozer is injury prone why not bring him off the bench and cut his minutes down to 24 a game. I thought he would be productive in a more limited role, kind of like Matt Harpring. I know we are paying him alot of money but so is AK, and he came off the Bench.
Finally everyone focuses on the last 6 weeks of the season and seems to forget the great team chemestry and hard work they had the rest of the season.
Anonymous | 12:21 p.m. July 16, 2009
Boozer is a winner and will have a great NBA career. No one we can get will be better than him. We need to keep the Jazz together. We are all about team ball. If he is healthy we will be in good shape and this nonsense will all be forgotten.
make the trade | 12:28 p.m. July 16, 2009
as a miami heat fan im glad Riley is pursuing not one but two all stars to play along with wade. the starting lineup would consist of mario chalmers PG, d wade SG, lamar odom SF, carlos boozer PF , and jermaine oneal C, and micheal beasley SF/PF jemario moon SF coming off the bench. if these deal does get done i like the miami heats chances to win a championship.
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CBT | 12:29 p.m. July 16, 2009
Trade Booze for Beasley and cap space, then let Sap go to Portland and sign Big Baby as the back up for the MLE. Tons of cap relief, more money to deal with next summer, equal talent swap and the Jazz come out ahead financially and talent wise. Sap is overpriced. And not a guy to carry this load.
Anonymous | 12:31 p.m. July 16, 2009
I think that we all need to realize that it is going to take a whole season for this team to be better. Move Boozer, Haslem can play a backup role to Millsap. We may not even make the playoffs this year, but we will be in great shape to sign a big name player of some sort next year and immediatley put us back into contention. Just prepare for mediocrity this year, but next year this team will make a jump. Oh, and keep your fingers crossed that the Lakers mess up this Odom deal, we need him out of LA.
jazz fan in slc | 12:37 p.m. July 16, 2009
i agree that the jazz need to trade boozer but at the same time they need to trade AK as well. Get rid of both of these guys and get some people in here who can play defense. there is enough offense on this team but as we all know we need to have more tough defense to win games and go farther in the post season. I don't want to see another short season just because the jazz played poor defense.
todd from santa ana | 12:43 p.m. July 16, 2009
so he does not score like Boozer, who cares? Haslem is no bum, he has a short jumper, he has "a ring" was an instrumental part of the Miami Heat winning title, he is tough and physical.

Then you guys get Millsap and can rotate the 2 do it......
JazzSpazz | 12:45 p.m. July 16, 2009
I don't see why the Jazz are worrying about a backup PF if they're set on picking up Millsap. We have AK, Koufos, Fesenko, and Okur who can all play that position. Trading Boozer for a backup PF is inane, even if it allows you to sign Millsap.

Backup PFs can be had for darn cheap. The Jazz would be better trading Boozer into a trade exception for a second round pick, thus dumping all of Boozer's salary, and signing a free agent at $3-5 mill (Glen Davis or Drew Gooden) than picking up Haslem at that price.

No way this deal goes through.
Anonymous | 12:52 p.m. July 16, 2009
to all you guys that are screaming you want beasley..it won't happen..the heat would have to be nuts to trade a promising star like him for boozer....it won't happen...boozer doesn't have much value....other teams aren't stupid...12 1/2 million dollar contract....soft...injuries...ect...

Anonymous | 12:55 p.m. July 16, 2009
I wish they story was "Boozer goes to Heat, DWade goes to Jazz". That would be super awesome.
STEVE-O | 12:55 p.m. July 16, 2009
@ Make the Trade...

Take it from Cavs and Jazz fans! Boozer will only leave you with a bad taste in your mouth after the end of the season. He'll get hurt. He'll want his raise after next season. He'll do anything for Carlos Boozer and leave you wondering why you ever got excited about having him on your team.

P.S. Germaine O'Neal isn't very good, Mario Chalmers is a giant question mark, Odom isn't on your team yet, Boozer isn't on the team yet! And even if Miami got ALL those players they wouldn't stand a chance against Boston (with Rasheed & healthy KG), Orlando, and Cleveland.


STEVE-O | 12:58 p.m. July 16, 2009
Everybody lobbying for AK & Booze to be traded need to use common sense (if you have any)? You can't just cut guys from the team. And other teams aren't jumping at the chance to take overpaid players. Ak's contract is near IMPOSSIBLE to trade. Boozer is a little more feasable but it's still tough to do. We're not going to get equal value for either player.
JJ | 1:07 p.m. July 16, 2009
I would rather see the jazz with Millsap and Lee at PF. Haslem doesn't have the numbers of Boozer but he is a lot tougher. I don't think boozer will ever be a 20/10 guy again. He peaked two years ago and will be lucky to play a full season healthy with anyone. I agree that AK needs to go, he is the cap killer. At least the haslem trade would open up some more options for the jazz, maybe they could get a sg who could shoot.
Here's my pen | 1:15 p.m. July 16, 2009
Hurry and sign the deal.
Great deal | 1:20 p.m. July 16, 2009
Haslem is obviously not as good as Boozer, but look at it this way: Starting Millsap, with Haslem coming off the bench is a nice 1-2 punch, and better defensively than Boozer-Millsap. Haslem is also more durable than Boozer--he's played in at least 75 games in all but one of his 6 NBA seasons. Haslem's deal is only for one more year, so he gives the Jazz flexibility, too.

I'm a little tired of these Jazz fans who think that Jazz can go out and get Chris Bosh for Boozer. If it's that easy the Jazz would have done it already. I bet that equally lame-brain Knicks fans are saying their GM should be fired because he's not trading Chris Duhon for Deron Williams. Duh--no one wants AK's salary, and no one wants Boozer, his attitude or his fragile body very badly right now. You don't give up equal talent when you're dealing with a team that's trying to get out of luxury tax like the Jazz are.
Miles | 1:21 p.m. July 16, 2009
Keeping Boozer and making him play 40 minutes a night is the best thing the Jazz can do. Make him prove to other teams that he is worth 14 million a year. Then when the season ends we clear his contract off the books. Using him as a salary dump is not going to help us that much this year. Keep Boozer and let Millsap sit on Portlands bench along with his Uncle. We don't need either one of them in 2010.
shecky | 1:24 p.m. July 16, 2009
Looks like the Jazz are trying to find a way to keep Milsap.
Dear T-Buck: | 1:31 p.m. July 16, 2009
Why in the world did you title the article this way? It sounded like it was a done deal...

yeesh...
Boozer will play if he wants to | 1:45 p.m. July 16, 2009
Boozer will be healthy when he plays for a team he really wants to play for. He will show all you Jazz fans he can play. Just watch....when he's on another team!
Blauch | 1:45 p.m. July 16, 2009
After the Jazz resign Millsap their salary is 83 million + 13 million taxes - total payments 96 mil (including taxes)

The Jazz are looking to cut a minimum of 8 million in salaries (save 16 million). Haslim makes 7 so that means the Jazz will probably trade Miles and Boozer for Haslim. (2 separate trade of course) The other player will be shipped to another team. Net Savings 17.5 million

The Best Trade would be Harpring and Boozer for Heinrich, Thomas. This would cut 4.5 million in salaries, but after that, the Jazz match Millsap and trade Heinrich to Portland for a future first round pick. That cuts 9 million more off the salary. This is the same as the 3 way trade, but we cut Harp salary (net savings - 22 million)

third trade - is Boozer and 3 million cash for Mobley. This only cuts about 3 million of the salary, but Mobley has a heart condition so Insurance pays 70% of his salary (7 million of the 9.5 million.) The Jazz would still have to pay the Luxury Tax, just not his salary. (Net saving 16 million)
toredo | 1:47 p.m. July 16, 2009
im a jazz and miami fan i think they should do the trade,miami needs more fire power beside wade.boozer would be a perfect fit hope he doesnt get injured though.while jazz needs toughness/durable and haslem has both.but the hamilton/boozer rumor trade would be much better.
What makes you think? | 2:05 p.m. July 16, 2009
...that Millsap will be the starting PF when Boozer leaves?

AK is better offensively and defensively in the post than Millsap. He is also a better free throw shooter.

AK has got to be thrilled with the fact Boozer is finally going to be out of here.

AK's game has been decimated as long as Boozer was in the mix. If you pay attention, flashes of the old AK always begin to appear when AK gets more minutes back at the PF spot.

Why do you think AK has foregone playing for his Russian team this summer in favor of staying and "working on his body"?

Its no coincidence folks.

AK is a better PF than Millsap all day long.
settling to be mediocre | 2:13 p.m. July 16, 2009
If the jazz do this trade I am officially selling my season tickets. This shows the jazz do not care about a championship if these deal goes through. Haslem, are you serious? The guy is worthless! Ride Boozer he is what he is, you know you will get 20/10 each night if he's healthy. If he doesn't produce than trade him before the trade deadline. DO NOT RUSH A TRADE!! He knows he will have to produce to get a deal for next season. Also sign Millsap, the first year will hurt, but after that it is a bargain for his hard work. Yes, AK is killing us, but what team is going to take him? We doomed ourselves with his contract. Am I saying we are championship caliber? No, Until management decides to pull trades like the big boys (LA, SA, ORL, & BOS) they will be settling to be mediocre.
I agree | 2:21 p.m. July 16, 2009
When AK is on his game he sure has a better shot of drawing a double team than Millsap that is ESSENTIAL in Sloans system.

Millsap is a banger and a worker but offensively he is pretty weak.

If AK gets some meat on them bones he could draw more attention than Millsap in the post.

If we don't find someone to draw a double team soon then everyones field goal %'s are going to drop.

All those open looks for Memo outside because of boozers post presence? Gone.

Hope somebody "shines up" a post game real quick or we are going to get spanked!!
Dear Ignorant Jazz Fans | 2:27 p.m. July 16, 2009
Boozer is the best player available, unless we get 2 decent players in return - or a good SF or SG in return then we are getting ripped off. Keep him on the team until February and let him play - he is a great player, an all-star who when healthy helped us to the WCF... if you've already forgotten. You loved him when he played - imagine the fact he got hurt... how dare he! Jazz fans get credit for being some of the loudest in the league, that's because from the comments on this article you can see 50% of them lack any good bball knowledge thus just yell out of ignorance - thus booing any call no matter the correctness - and are just all about people that love Utah - unless it's a Utah lifer they're gone... no wonder people don't want to play here. Please learn that it's a business for them and entertainment for us. Go Jazz! Boozer we need you in order to be good this year, or we need you're equal value in return on a trade - otherwise Millsap is gonna be AK in 2 years... too expensive!
Listen People | 2:32 p.m. July 16, 2009
This is Miami pushing a deal--just like Chicago and Portland did before them.

If we have learned one thing we know the Jazz WILL NOT TRADE unless they believe they are getting a decent deal.

Exhibit A

AK

They had some chances to trade him but did not and Marion and McGrady would not have been that bad..but they did not go for it.

The Jazz have until the February trade deadline to unload Booz. With every passing day that big expiring Boozer contract becomes more and more valuable.

Don't be surprised to see Boozer in camp.

Ak tried to escape by unloading to the media and the public. Didn't work for him.

It would be kind of funny if they brought him back and set Boozer on the bench and rotated Millsap and AK at that position.

Payback can be a.......well you know!!
Beeasley | 2:32 p.m. July 16, 2009
Is the only way I do this trade.
This is a salary dump | 2:34 p.m. July 16, 2009
It does not make the Jazz better.

Wait for Miami to get desperate. They are not going to get Odom. Why would he give up 4 million a year to play for a loser? Wade will be begging for Boozer late in the year. They will be desperate to get help about mid season.

Boozer will not shaft himself (not on purpose). Wait for a better deal.
SJ | 2:46 p.m. July 16, 2009
As usual, some so-called fans (those who criticize the Jazz's every move) seem to know a lot more about professional sports managemenr than all of the GM's and coaches combined. My question is why aren't you running a team somewhere with all your wonderful insight and knowledge? Huh?

Exactly!
Jonathan A | 2:51 p.m. July 16, 2009
Hey i agree with what jason said. Why would we want another boozer anyways. just so we can trade him like we did boozer. I think that millsap has pontential to be as good as boozer in fact better than boozer especially since his better on defense than boozer. I think all we need is good back up powerfoward who can come and help out the team on the defensive side.
Ryan | 2:52 p.m. July 16, 2009
Haslem is a very underrated player. He is money with the 15 to 18 foot baseline jumper and he does something no one else on this team does....play defense! Better to get him than nothing. And I'd much rather have him backing up Millsap and Okur than Kosta Kufous.
Fireman | 3:02 p.m. July 16, 2009
I've read tons of these posts and have yet to see anyone mention the one trade of real value out there. The Jazz have 2...count them 2....players that are 7 feet tall and riding the bench or the D-league. Let's start developing their talent.

Now to the trade. Detroit has interest, money, and space for Boozer. Get Hamilton for Boozer. We get the experience, championship minded, TRUE shooting guard in Hamilton. Suddenly Williams has a true threat in the back court and makes his job easier. Now we have plenty of time and men to cover the PF position and suddenly have a back court that requires heavy attention making ALL jobs on the court easier.

Don't forget...we couldn't compete with the Lakers due to our size, not talent. Funny how that happens with two 7 footers riding the pine.

Yes I know they need work...but "D" league experience doesn't result in NBA caliber players. Let's get results from all the picks we've wasted money and time on over the years.
Please No | 3:16 p.m. July 16, 2009
This is a terrible trade! Why can't the Jazz see that? Please do not trade Boozer for Haslem. If O'Connor pulls this off he should be fired. We need to get rid of Boozer, but come on, be patient and earn your fat pay-check as a GM. Unless, OJ Mayo is in this from Memphis or Beasley, The Jazz will be lucky to make the playoffs. O'Connor, you are smarter that this...get creative.
Bob in line | 3:20 p.m. July 16, 2009
Can they do this in time to keep Milsap?

If not, we would lose both power forwards.
Ridiculous | 3:24 p.m. July 16, 2009
DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be patient. Don't take trash for Boozer. This is another deal in which the Jazz get nothing in return. If the Bulls are willing to move Tyrus Thomas, continue to work with them.
STEVE-O | 3:26 p.m. July 16, 2009
@ Dear Ignorant Jazz fans...

Some fans can be clueless, but those fans exsist on any team in any sport. Luckily most Jazz fans will go and make a bunch of noise, which may help explain why the Jazz have been so successfull playing home games over the past 20 years.

As for Boozer; He doesn't want to play here. He's asked to be traded. He's not in the plans. He makes too much money. It may not be his fault, but he DOES get hurt a lot. He may be a good player but if his heart isn't into it there's no point in keeping him around.
Clueless | 3:26 p.m. July 16, 2009
Everyone on these boards wanted Boozer to opt out which left the Jazz with nothing(fine with me) Now everyone is complaing that we're getting hosed because Boozers so much more valuable than these potential trade imports. Get a clue everyone. The Jazz don't want Boozer and pretty much have to send him to anyone that will have him without getting saddled with long term contracts in return. If Boozer had the value that most on this board perceive then he would have opted out on his own
Jazz Need To | 3:29 p.m. July 16, 2009
Trade Boozer to Phoenix for Amare Stoudemire!! He is coming off eye surgery and the Suns are weary about giving him an extension.
banoone | 3:37 p.m. July 16, 2009
Horrible trade. Haslam isn't going to help us and worst of all Boozer gets to end up in Miami where he has wanted to be all along. Ship him to Memphis and let him "DOMINATE" there.
Bad Deal | 3:41 p.m. July 16, 2009
Trading Boozer, good idea. Dumping Boozer without getting something in return, plain nuts.

The Jazz would be better off keeping him this coming season. Faced with an expiring contract Boozer will show (cuz he knows he won't get paid after this season if he doesn't). Will he bolt once his contract is up? Sure. Who cares? Use the salary and go after a free agent next year.

Will the team chemistry be a little off? Maybe (but maybe not if he shows and makes the team better).

Match Portland for Millsap, sure, but keep Boozer unless you get equal value. Haslem isn't equal value, period.
Anonymous | 3:48 p.m. July 16, 2009
Fire KOC immediately. Wow. Haslem for Boozer? I'm in shock.
UnsecuredBizLoan.com | 3:50 p.m. July 16, 2009
What this team needs is a great shooting guard! If we keep Milsap, then we don't need another power forward. This deal only works if we don't keep Boozer and Milsap. Then we would still need to get a better starting shooting guard!
Anonymous | 3:51 p.m. July 16, 2009
Its hard to be a Jazz fan with a joker like O'Connor running the show.
Carlos Loozer | 3:59 p.m. July 16, 2009
Haslem? Come on. The Jazz would be better off trading Boozer for the Heat's mascot and the rights to Pat Riley's sense of style.
Beasley Only | 4:02 p.m. July 16, 2009
Haslem is not what we want. I only trade with Miami if I get Beasley in the deal. Otherwise I match Milsap's deal and revisit the Tyrus Thomas deal with Chicago and Portland. We don't need Haslem.
Anonymous | 4:04 p.m. July 16, 2009
Boozer is an olympian, and Haslem is a journeyman role player. Its not even close to a fair trade.
agreed, ak bye bye :) | 4:09 p.m. July 16, 2009
"i agree that the jazz need to trade boozer but at the same time they need to trade AK as well. Get rid of both of these guys and get some people in here who can play defense. there is enough offense on this team but as we all know we need to have more tough defense to win games and go farther in the post season. I don't want to see another short season just because the jazz played poor defense."
Miami Heat | 4:13 p.m. July 16, 2009
In reponse to "This is a salary dump"
It does not make the Jazz better.

Wait for Miami to get desperate. They are not going to get Odom. Why would he give up 4 million a year to play for a loser? Wade will be begging for Boozer late in the year. They will be desperate to get help about mid season.

Boozer will not shaft himself (not on purpose). Wait for a better deal.

In case you didn't know, there is no state income tax in FL so the deal is far off from what Jerry Buss offered odom and he said he specifically needs to live by the beach. Can you say 5peat miami heat
Iverson/Chalmers
Wade/Cook
Odom/Moon
Boozer/Beasley
O'neal/Anthony
Shaybo | 4:22 p.m. July 16, 2009
Haslim is horrible, if the Jazz end up doing this it's a give up move to save money and I for one will not be in attendance this year.
Nobody wants to here this | 4:24 p.m. July 16, 2009
but the best thing the Jazz can do is let Millsap go and replace him with a mle competent back up, keep Boozer until he can be replaced by better PF.

I was just reading JazzBots and they actually agree with what I have been posting.

I don't care about Boozer and his off court mouth. I care about what Boozer does on court. He is likely to play well as long as the Jazz are not going to dump him into a bad situation.

Anyone who claims Millsap is as good as Boozer is not dealing with reality. Millsap is a little better on D but fouls more. Both are in trouble against tall athletic PFs. Boozer is twice the offensive player of Millsap.

The Jazz have to be patient and get the right PF. 4 years of Millsap will doom the Jazz to mediocrity. If they are serious about winning they will get the talent needed to compete. The NBA world has shifted. There are teams in the lux tax who are competitors, and teams shedding salary. The teams in the middle have to decide which way they are going.

Do the Jazz contend or pretend?

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