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@Miles | 7:30 a.m. July 15, 2009

I agree the Jazz should have gone in a different direction. However, the primary problem is Sloan. Nobody crosses Sloan, KOC is just the rubber stamp on anything Sloan wants.

This team will always be mediocre as long as Sloan runs the whole organization. Sloan is not qualified to do that. He does not have the education, background, experience nor capability to do that.

CJ will have to step up this year. Harp will be gone. AK may be at PF at least part of the time. CJ should be getting lots of minutes. His game has to be a lot better or the Jazz are in trouble. He has to rebound and attack the rim. He has to play D and improve his 3 point shooting.

Korver's role will also expand. Korver's D is shaky at best.

The Jazz need a SG/SF out of the Boozer trade besides the PF of the future.

When Millsap gets signed there will be no money to fix the other problems.

Sloan is a cancer that insures this team will never be great. He simply will not replace players if they work hard. He overpays.

Get enough talent.

Knowwhat | 7:35 a.m. July 15, 2009

Could someone tell me where in the article it said that he signed a one year contract? Or is this information a rumor like a lot of the other ones going around.

rslfaaaaaaaaaaan | 8:11 a.m. July 15, 2009

Good price is a reliable backup. In my opinion better than hart and not as expensive.

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You Know it | 8:58 a.m. July 15, 2009

Dont worry about Price not getting minutes as it seems we are going to have a void at PF. KOC is pitching Boozer under the bus. Millsap is only 4 inches taller than Price and Price can outrun him. So there should be lots of time for him.

Houston is looking for offense and we could use Battier.

The Jazz are immensely | 9:31 a.m. July 15, 2009

stupid if the match Millsap's offer. The NBA anticipates a cap of 45 to 50 million next year and for years to come. If the Jazz match Millsap they will have to fire sale something. Good luck on unloading AK. 70 to 80 % of the NBA will be dumping to get under the the lux tax in 2010.

It looks like Odom may sign for the mle? Maybe the Jazz might be wise to let POR overpay Millsap and get a really good PF.

The Jazz seem to be a team who are simply incapable of cap and player management. They will pay the luxury tax for years to please Sloan while making the team weaker and putting the franchise at risk. This will happen if the Jazz keep over paying hard working (not talented enough) players while the cap drops dramatically.

Instead of getting the cheap talent needed for a championship they will risk the franchise on mediocre continuity.

Anonymous | 9:43 a.m. July 15, 2009

Yay!!!!!!!!

Ronnie Price is fun to watch. This is great news!

Finally a rumor that | 9:53 a.m. July 15, 2009

makes a little sense. The Jazz are supposed to be looking at signing Gooden. I am hoping that he is a replacement for Millsap and it is a 1 year contract.

If the NBA cap drops to 45 million as Stern anticipates there will be all kind of fire sales later this year and next year. It would be financial and playing suicide to get locked into 50 million in long term contracts to a handful of players (AK 17, Okur 10, DWill 15? Millsap 10).

The Jazz had better let POR trap themselves into the lux tax and not sign Millsap. He is not financially viable for the Jazz and he is not the PF of the future.

The Jazz can get the players for a championship if they don't sign Millsap. They will foul up the financial future of the team if they do.

Gooden is good enough until Boozer can be moved. Boozer's contract is worth blood as the cap drops. Get real value. Set the Jazz up to be a contender instead of overpaying to weaken the team in the name of continuity.

Fire Sloan if he can't handle change.

Continutity is a lie | 10:37 a.m. July 15, 2009

and a deception. With Boozer gone (he will be gone) there is no way that Okur/Millsap are going to be 5 games better based on continuity. That team is 5 or more games weaker.

Trading Boozer for Millsap in the name of continuity insures a bad team for the a luxury tax price.

Millsap needs to be replaced with Gooden or another player who can be rented until a real replacement for Boozer can be gotten for cheap later.

The Jazz need to two things

1. they need better players
2. they need a better salary structure

The bad economy is trying to hand both to them and they are doing just about everything they can to shaft the team in the name of continuity.

If Sloan can't adapt to the environment that is shifting in the Jazz favor he has to be replaced.

It is not just Sloan. The whole organization is out of touch and step with the current shift in the environment. They over pay at the exact time they should drop costs and improve talent.

Anonymous | 11:31 a.m. July 15, 2009

I like coach Sloan. Sloan is the Jazz.

Many teams would love to have him as a coach (I read many other team blogs). It seems like only the Jazz "fans" don't know how to appreciate him. Actually many of you "fans" don't really appreciate anything. A whiny bunch you are! Portland fans are currently commenting on how you guys are totally ready to toss away Millsap (after reading a few of these articles with the toxic comments). No loyalty whatsoever! They'd love to have him.

I've been a dedicated Jazz fan for over 15 years now, I rarely miss a game. But, I'm really going to have to stop reading these comment sections or cross my fingers that many of you just latch onto some other team since you dislike the Jazz system so much.

Miles | 11:32 a.m. July 15, 2009

Keep Boozer and his expiring contract. Next year we can buy players much cheaper than this year. Salaries for players in coming down. About time. With Boozer, Korver and Harpring off the books, we will have 20 million to buy some quality players. Please Please Please keep Boozer for one more year.

Anonymous | 11:44 a.m. July 15, 2009

I agree with keeping Boozer one more year. (Unless some really fantastic trade opportunity comes up) I don't see how trading his large contract for another player's large contract helps unless they are a star. The Jazz can shop next summer when his contract expires.

JazzHater72 | 12:06 p.m. July 15, 2009

It does not matter who the jazz sign, who the Jazz trade the Jazz are losers....they were born losers from there days in orleans...they were losers when they came to utah....and as long as they are here they will always be losers.....Go Lakers way to win it all...something the jazz will never know( how to win it all that is!)....Fire Sloan, Dump KOC, and 10 -12 players on this team and they may have a chance against the Lakers in about 10 years!!!....Go Lakers!!!!

List of 2010 cap teams | 12:37 p.m. July 15, 2009

"How many of those remaining teams currently would have room to add a max player, say $13 million or more?

Five: Atlanta, Miami, New Jersey, New York, Oklahoma City" (Hoopsworld).

The NBA free agent market is crashing. Boozer's contract is worth a lot don't waste it. It is best to let POR overpay Millsap.

An Okur/Millsap lead team is a much weaker team. Boozer has to be traded for much better for the Jazz to be competitive.

The NBA free agent market will be weak for years. The Jazz can be a contender with great players if they are wise with their cap management.

Don't blow the future on Millsap.

STEVE-O | 1:10 p.m. July 15, 2009

If there were any problems for the Jazz last year it was the injuries. If there was another problem it was too many players that were in need of minutes. Not enough minutes to go around. Millsap was only getting 20-25 minutes a game at times. Same with Ak (who I feel needs to get at least 30 minutes).
If Boozer goes and we keep Millsap there will be more minutes to go around to those quality players. The team moral will improve and yes... the continuity will be better when compared to last year. I am not throwing in the towel on next season. The Jazz have a decent group of players. Just gotta stay healthy and gain confidnece during the season.

STEVE-O | 1:13 p.m. July 15, 2009

Miles you're probably right, but Boozer and the Jazz organization have already burned that bridge. Carlos is telling everybody he's expecting a trade, the Jazz aren't shy about the fact they're shopping him around. Deron Williams says he hasn't talked to Boozer at all. Carlos has already mentally checked out from this team so if he came back I feel like it would be a wasted season for him and the Jazz.

@Kruge | 1:44 p.m. July 15, 2009

he's already "HAD" stints in the NBA...

@I like Sloan | 2:45 p.m. July 15, 2009

I was reading the POR threads a couple of days ago. They were just starting to realize that Millsap was going to replace Aldridge (not back him up). They were not happy.

POR knows how to manage players and the cap. Whatever they pay in bonus to Millsap will be offset by lower salaries to other players. Aldridge want a max contract. POR is basically saying "that nice" Millsap can replace you for less and you can go find another team. Aldridge is slightly better than Millsap but Millsap is a better value. That frees up money to upgrade other positions.

POR is constantly trying to get the best combinations of total talent on the floor that they can. They have not problem replacing players who are unreasonable in salary or who under produce.

POR will win a championship long before Utah even realizes it's business model is flawed.

Sloan is a primary reason (but not the only one) why the business model is flawed. He would have been fired 16 times before now if he coached for any other team.

@ Steve-O | 2:56 p.m. July 15, 2009

There are always injuries. Okur/Millsap were not as efficient or proficient on offense as Okur/Boozer. Their defense was not much better. The team without Boozer is weaker and it showed all season. Leaving Boozer out of the injury equation, the rest of the injuries were about a normal amount.

Your premise is that the Jazz have to much talent. That is wrong. The Jazz only beat one playoff team (DET) last year on the road. They are a fundamentally weak team. They lost badly on the road and even had bad games at home.

Losing Boozer and not changing anything else will not change the back to back, road and defense problems. All it does is weaken the offense.

Continuity is a Jazz PR myth designed to cover up Sloan/KOC and the whole Jazz organization's biggest weaknesses. Mainly they can't and do not want to deal with change. They want to do what they always do and pretend it will be better.

Talk about delusional and in denial. I have seen alcoholics who are in better shape psychologically than the Jazz.

@ the one who spoke@ I likeSloan | 2:58 p.m. July 15, 2009

Millsap was not going to replace Aldridge. I don't know which articles you were reading. I live in Portland and the only thing close to that that I saw on any Portland sites and papers was that Millsap's agent said that Millsap was told that he had the potential to start if they play small ball. They were talking about Millsap playing with Aldridge.

And if you think that Portland is good with cap that is just silly. They love to spend "Uncle Paul's" (Paul Allen) money. Do you not recall when they were spending 115 million a year?!? They will be luxury tax payers again VERY soon (once all the contracts are redone).

STEVE-O | 3:37 p.m. July 15, 2009

To: @ Steve-o

You're right. On paper losing a guy that gets 20 pts and 10 rebs 60% of the time... every time doesn't look good!

I do feel like the Jazz had a VERY talented team last year. Many experts were predicting the Jazz to win the West. That wasn't by accident.
I think many Jazz players felt like Boozer coming back from injury would solve all their problems. Like they'd magically start winning road games. Then when he came back and they continued to struggle they lost confidence in the team.
Denver, Houston (injury depleted), Atlanta all got further than the Jazz in the playoffs with less talented teams.

Point is, we can all debate and predict all summer but we won't know what impact Boozer (or possibly Millsap) will have on the team moral untill the season starts. Only time will tell.

I don't agree with your injury assessment last year. Boozer was out half the year, Deron missed games (and wasn't 100% for most), Ak missed a few weeks, Matt couldn't play more than 10 minutes a game. It was a ROUGH season to say the least.

STEVE-O | 3:40 p.m. July 15, 2009

cont...

You take Kobe off his team for half the year, Gasol for 3-4 weeks, Odom for 3-4 weeks and see if that team would have had such a good regular season record.
Boston lost ONE great player on their team (KG) and they couldn't pull it off. Injuries are a big part of team success and the Jazz were plagued with it.

2009-2010 season could be the same for the Jazz. Or maybe they have a reletively healthy season and end up surprising some people.

Miles | 3:53 p.m. July 15, 2009

@Steve-O.......Boozer has no choice but to play hard. The Jazz have him right where they want him. He can't afford an injury. He has to prove he is worth a big contract from someone else next year. He found out this year that he is not really wanted by anyone who had money to spend. There is no way that Boozer will not be anything but a great player for the entire year if the Jazz keep him on the team this year. Maybe Kevin doesn't understand it, but he is in the driver's seat not Boozer.

Wow--Crazy comments | 4:27 p.m. July 15, 2009

People act like we just signed Lebron James!!

Who we signed is a very athletic shorter backup PG who naturally plays a position of 2 guard for which he is too short to play in the NBA.

Price could only get a one year deal here. He could not get anything better anywhere else. Based on that how good do you really think he is?

He struggles to run Sloans system and get his team into the sets and get them the ball in the desired spots.

One of you nitwits said "I hope Price and Maynor get lots of minutes".

Are you serious?

If they do it means d-will is injured and we will be losing alot more games.

Get a grip. He is marginal NBA d-league talent.

Love the guy but he is not someone who is making our team alot better.

For some of you it is like you are trying to pick roomates to live with vs. players to win games in the NBA!!

Miles | 4:52 p.m. July 15, 2009

Lost in all this is that fact that Dwill, Brewer and CJ will all be better players next year. They are all extremely young. Add Memo, Boozer, Korver and AK and there is a good mix of young and old. Don't know much about Koufus and Fes as to their improvement and ability to contribute next year? But overall we can afford to let Boozer stay and Millsap walk and still have a very very good team. If Boozer, AK and Korver are healthy for the year, this could be as good a season as when John and Karl were in their prime. I think everyone wants to fix too much when there isn't that much to be fixed. Just let Millsap go and pray that Boozer holds up for a whole season.

Anonymous | 4:55 p.m. July 15, 2009

I agree with Steve-O and Miles.

It was the injuries that killed a fantastic team last year.

And Boozer WILL play well this year. He has to if he wants to land that big contract that he wants. Whoever has Boozer this season (I hope it is the Jazz) will be happy with his effort. I predict that it will go up quite a bit. I think KOC is trying to be a nice guy to Boozer by trying to trade him since Boozer wanted out once he was told he is not in their long term plans.

TidalWave Coming | 6:37 p.m. July 15, 2009

Boozer is fun.

Injuries | 6:48 p.m. July 15, 2009

last year was a really bad year. On paper the Jazz had a great team. However, SA is now the strongest team in the West, LA still has it's core, DEN is much improved and POR will be a year and a couple of trades better. DAL is also improving.

Boozer will be gone. Millsap is not as good offensively. He fouls a lot more and is a little bit better on defense. Brewer went backwards last year as not having Boozer changes his opportunities. CJ went backwards and I am not sure why. Koufos should be better. Fez is a big question. AK and Okur tend to be injury prone (usually minor).

The Jazz should be about the 6th to maybe the 4th best team in the West. About where they always have been but now cost luxury tax.

That is why I would like to see some upgrades. Boozer is leaving. His contract can provide the extra talent that might make the Jazz a contender.

I do not think the Jazz will win a championship without the ideal PF (not Millsap).

I am hoping for enough change to get the talent for a championship.

CJ3 | 9:16 p.m. July 15, 2009

How's it Steve-O? :-)

Millsap averaged 30+ min a game last season. Slightly more in the playoffs, rather than the 20-25 indicated.

Even on the rare occasions all three primary bigs (Okur, Boozer, and Millsap) were sharing time it wasn't uncommon to see Millsap come in for Okur (generally foul trouble) and have Booz slide to the 5-spot.

Millsap had ample playing time here in Utah. I can't help bit think he really will gat only about 20 min a game in Portland.

-C33

JStocks | 12:18 a.m. July 16, 2009

BigBaby Davis??? say No to that One O'Connnor, Jazz have enough useless Big Boys

Ro | 7:22 a.m. July 16, 2009

I like RP's game! No need to celebrate the signing if we're not going to give him minutes.He was better than Hart and backed him up... He was better than Knight and backed him up... he should get minutes at the point and two spot. CJ Miles also has potential if we give him the ball and tell him to take it to the hole. I'd let Brewer start at the 3 and bring CJ of the bench. He plays not to mess up, he should play to win. Again, Boozer is a great offensive player, and ok defender. We lack a defensive center which makes boozer's D go from bad to worst.

Continuity is NOT a lie | 7:47 a.m. July 16, 2009

It's what got the current champs their rings this year.

Phnehme | 10:06 a.m. July 16, 2009

RP was a good signing.

1 - he brings in a lot of energy and a change up in styles when he enters the game.

2 - We needed a 13th player anyway to reach the league minimum. Why not someone that knows the system and can actually log a few quality minutes.

Better than Hart | 10:34 a.m. July 16, 2009

is not a recommendation. Knight was actually better at running the team on a daily basis. However, his shooting was a major weakness.

The Jazz need someone better than Hart, Knight and Price. They lose games because of weak back up PG play. They have so much salary going other places they are shorting an important function.

It will be a while before Maynor beats Price out.

Price is not a good SG and he is not a PG. He is okay as a cheap practice player and 3rd PG.

DEN and POR | 10:46 a.m. July 16, 2009

can make a case for continuity. NO will try to use continuity. If CP gets hurt they are in trouble even with Pargo back.

SA and DAL made moves. LA seems to partly reject continuity. Adding Artest is a mistake. Losing Odom is priceless. LA still have Kobe, Gasol and Bynum and a checkbook.

Point is that Utah will not have continuity because Boozer will be gone and that changes everything.

That effects a lot more than the PF position. It changes the way the Sloan system is run. Sloan had to move away from Boozer's plays because Millsap could not run them. Okur's numbers went up because Millsap is not Boozer.

Brewer and CJ's numbers went down without Boozer. Korver struggled at times.

Losing Millsap is small compared to losing Boozer. Yes, Boozer needs to be replaced. But he needs to be replaced with a PF who can run the system better than Millsap.

The Jazz have no hope of continuity. They have chaos. What they need are smart adjustments at PF and SF/SG. They have to have more outside shooting and defense. They need to do that over the next 2 years.

THEeyepatch | 1:10 p.m. July 16, 2009

What? Is it too late for Malone to come out of retirement?

OldSchool in Augusta | 1:11 p.m. July 16, 2009

I wonder if WORD can be sent by one J-D HS grad to another J-D HS grad (of another era) via this media.
If Carlos reads the comments section of the D-News, he should know that using the word "dominate" to describe one's game clearly implies more than "contributing" at BOTH ENDS of the court.
I don't believe there are many knowledgable BB folks that would agree with him using that word.
Having your "glass 1/2 full" is nowhere near "full, or running over".
He needs to leave his penchant for a "cool" demeaner for off the court.
He could learn a lot (and therfore become better) from watching Ronnie Price play.
Exerting yourself a little bit more on both ends of the court (moving your feet) will not diminish "your cool" Carlos.
It will only enhance your essence with those that know the game, and know about people.
I've "watched" you..and thought that "being under Karl's wing" would have been good for you, and the Jazz - now I just wish you well - and wonder about "who's available with more desire".

Shaybo | 4:44 p.m. July 16, 2009

How about we forget about Millsap, he doesn't want to be here or he wouldn't have signed a deal that was set up to discourage the Jazz from matching, let's offer the 40+ million to Lee on a backloaded contract that would discourage the Knicks from matching, he is a much better player than Millsap.

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