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Anonymous | 11:25 a.m. July 13, 2009
I wasn't around for all this. Thanks for the history! Can't wait for
Sept. 5th!
match em up against | 11:29 a.m. July 13, 2009
the 13-0 ute team and they wouldn't have a chance be like 2a vs 5a ,
you'd have to call 911.
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YtxPat | 11:47 a.m. July 13, 2009
Great Article. I have watched both games over and over and continue to enjoy
them. Thank heaven for the classics on the BYU channel. I even get to see the
Utes once in a while. My parents were Ute season ticket holders.
I was at the Miami game when we won and they were the defending National Champions. I see this article as possibly inspiring our 2009 team, that it is possible to beat Oklahoma. I will be there also.
For those who don't like the past, don't tell your grandpa, but for those of us who lived through and watched the fall of 1983, it was great and it was the National Title at the time. The same thing that the Utes, Texas, Washington and Oklahoma all coveted, but did not obtain.
I look forward to the remainder of the articles. I will be in Dallas for the Oklahoma game. I will be in New Orleans for the Tulane game. I will be in Provo for the win over Utah. Go Cougars!
I was at the Miami game when we won and they were the defending National Champions. I see this article as possibly inspiring our 2009 team, that it is possible to beat Oklahoma. I will be there also.
For those who don't like the past, don't tell your grandpa, but for those of us who lived through and watched the fall of 1983, it was great and it was the National Title at the time. The same thing that the Utes, Texas, Washington and Oklahoma all coveted, but did not obtain.
I look forward to the remainder of the articles. I will be in Dallas for the Oklahoma game. I will be in New Orleans for the Tulane game. I will be in Provo for the win over Utah. Go Cougars!
Rebuttal to the 11:29 | 11:59 a.m. July 13, 2009
"match em up against | 11:29 a.m. July 13, 2009
the 13-0 ute team and they wouldn't have a chance be like 2a vs 5a , you'd have to call 911."
Yeah, except it would be the Utes that would be taken out on a stretcher.
Nice try, though...
the 13-0 ute team and they wouldn't have a chance be like 2a vs 5a , you'd have to call 911."
Yeah, except it would be the Utes that would be taken out on a stretcher.
Nice try, though...
Cougazul | 12:08 p.m. July 13, 2009
I hesitate comparing BYU to the Yankees but I will for the sake of demonstrating
a point.
The Yankees are still well-known as a consistently great team, however there are always those people that refer to the "good old days." Is it wrong to remember those days? Babe Ruth is still one of the most recognized names in sports. Should we just forget him and "move on"?
Again, BYU in no way has nor will ever have the same rep as the Yankees but even after a century of time I think it's still safe to say that "the good old Yankees" still matter. The 1984 Cougars and other remarkable glory years at BYU still matter and I will not be convinced otherwise.
The Yankees are still well-known as a consistently great team, however there are always those people that refer to the "good old days." Is it wrong to remember those days? Babe Ruth is still one of the most recognized names in sports. Should we just forget him and "move on"?
Again, BYU in no way has nor will ever have the same rep as the Yankees but even after a century of time I think it's still safe to say that "the good old Yankees" still matter. The 1984 Cougars and other remarkable glory years at BYU still matter and I will not be convinced otherwise.
Anonymous | 12:15 p.m. July 13, 2009
Why are there so many "True-Blue Zoobs" who think the '84
"why?"-Michigan game occurred in 1983?
Good thing the tdS played Pitt in their season opener. If they played them later in the season I doubt they would have vaulted to #13 by week 2, nor have reached #6 by week 3. Pitt only won 3 games all year.
Good thing the tdS played Pitt in their season opener. If they played them later in the season I doubt they would have vaulted to #13 by week 2, nor have reached #6 by week 3. Pitt only won 3 games all year.
awesome | 12:46 p.m. July 13, 2009
I was at the '84 Holiday Bowl for BYU's win over Michigan. I love
reading these articles about that season and the recaps of some of those great
plays. One series that I'll remember was the Cougar's goal line stand
against Pitt where our guys kept them from punching it in from about the 1 yd
line. After that defensive stand I had a feeling that was going to be a very
special team & season.
GO COUGARS!!!!
GO COUGARS!!!!
Re: Scoobie | 12:49 p.m. July 13, 2009
Not sure where you're getting your information, the Miami Hurricane beat
the Nebraska Cornhuskers for the 1983 season championship.
The 1984 National Championship was awarded for games which occured during the 1984 football season. Which BYU won fair and square after beating Michigan in the Holiday Bowl on December 21, 1984.
Google and Wikipedia are your friends.
The 1984 National Championship was awarded for games which occured during the 1984 football season. Which BYU won fair and square after beating Michigan in the Holiday Bowl on December 21, 1984.
Google and Wikipedia are your friends.
RE:RE:RE:Knowwhat | 12:53 p.m. July 13, 2009
I misread your comment, my bad.
Knowwhat | 1:37 p.m. July 13, 2009
As a described Ute troll, I went trolling today and caught my limit. Go Utes.
"whenever i go anywhere | 2:35 p.m. July 13, 2009
like the golf course, or the movies," people are constantly asking me about
my personal achievements, too! WOW! they say "you graduated high school,
and then college, and then got married and had kids, and have a fulltime
job!?!"
"NO WAY!"
get over the ego, boys.
"NO WAY!"
get over the ego, boys.
Ute fans or politicians? | 2:50 p.m. July 13, 2009
Its terribly funny how so many Ute fans come out to trash on BYU in articles
exclusively about BYU. Some of you are so obtuse you can't see the bright
color of your own hypocrisy. There are statements made about how inconsistent
BYU is while it seems you try to ignore the fact that Utah football has not been
the poster team for consistency....ever!
You make snipes at BYU's 1984 NC (not just this article but others) claiming it was not legitimate because in that season they barely beat a relatively lowly team like Hawaii, in Honolulu. I might add they also struggled with an even worse Utah team in SLC. And yet you would seemingly obscure the fact that Utah, last season, had two near death experiences of their own.... at home!!
So as the BUN (boys up north) reclaim their normal status in the middle of the pack this season, gearing up for another BCS run in 4 years.
Just know: (1) BYU has historically been more consistent in the W column than Utah. (2)There is NOTHING you can do to wipe that NC out of the NCAA books.
Go BYU!
You make snipes at BYU's 1984 NC (not just this article but others) claiming it was not legitimate because in that season they barely beat a relatively lowly team like Hawaii, in Honolulu. I might add they also struggled with an even worse Utah team in SLC. And yet you would seemingly obscure the fact that Utah, last season, had two near death experiences of their own.... at home!!
So as the BUN (boys up north) reclaim their normal status in the middle of the pack this season, gearing up for another BCS run in 4 years.
Just know: (1) BYU has historically been more consistent in the W column than Utah. (2)There is NOTHING you can do to wipe that NC out of the NCAA books.
Go BYU!
really? | 2:52 p.m. July 13, 2009
Do we really need an 8 day continuing story to describe something that happened
25 years ago?
Get over it and show up for a good football season in the PRESENT time!
Get over it and show up for a good football season in the PRESENT time!
to really? | 3:41 p.m. July 13, 2009
You don't have to read the stories about the '84 national
championship. I for one enjoy reading about it, seeing where these guys are now.
There's not a lot of college football news right now so this is a great
time for such filler stories.
TO: really? 2:52 | 4:11 p.m. July 13, 2009
1. Yes.
2. Sorry, no college football in the "present time". It is the summer after all.
Blue son of a Ute
2. Sorry, no college football in the "present time". It is the summer after all.
Blue son of a Ute
mythical | 4:11 p.m. July 13, 2009
yewt fans are so ignorant. They think their mythical #4 BCS ranking last season
is somehow better than BYU's mythical #1 ranking in 1984. Cry yewt fans,
cry! WAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Living in the past | 4:39 p.m. July 13, 2009
Talk about living in the past. This story takes that to new heights. Alema
Harrington must be pumped!!
Has the Utah football program risen to such heights that the only thing left for TDS to do is have stories written about their team from 25 years ago? Seriously? This is all you got?
Has the Utah football program risen to such heights that the only thing left for TDS to do is have stories written about their team from 25 years ago? Seriously? This is all you got?
cougarman | 5:09 p.m. July 13, 2009
i always wonder why utah utes fans are reading byu articles. i would never in a
million years read a utah article, why would i. its nice to know that utah fans
really care about us cougars
too much information | 6:55 p.m. July 13, 2009
Come on...an eight article series is a bit much. We have two wars, trillion dollar deficits, a recession, rising unemployment, and the Deseret News spends resources and space covering a story from 25 years ago.
Another UTE | 7:22 p.m. July 13, 2009
What I remember was 2 things... BYU having to beat Utah at the end of the season
to get into their "National Championship" game,
and
Robbie Bosco in the Holiday Bowl, putting in the performance of his career, playing on a hurt leg, hobbling around but still making plays. He did awesome, really.
Now, back to the present... UofU 48 BYU 24
Goooooo UTES!
and
Robbie Bosco in the Holiday Bowl, putting in the performance of his career, playing on a hurt leg, hobbling around but still making plays. He did awesome, really.
Now, back to the present... UofU 48 BYU 24
Goooooo UTES!
Sun Tzu | 8:07 p.m. July 13, 2009
re: cougarman | 5:09 p.m. July 13, 2009
Its called Know Your Enemy.
Its called Know Your Enemy.
Sweet | 8:31 p.m. July 13, 2009
18 to 13 victory over Hawaii...
and to think all these years I've been thinking that byu's national championship was questionable.
and to think all these years I've been thinking that byu's national championship was questionable.
Thanks for the patronage! | 8:52 p.m. July 13, 2009
I'm just glad the ewts are interested enough in this series to read it.
Thanks guys!
I admit I cheered for the ewts all the way thru that bowl game last year, but if DN writes an 8-part series about it next week or 25 years from now, I will not be interested enough to read it or comment on it, but I will not deny them the right to enjoy it.
What's good for BYU or Utah is good for the MWC and the state - until late November. That one gets decided on the scoreboard. Get a life.
I admit I cheered for the ewts all the way thru that bowl game last year, but if DN writes an 8-part series about it next week or 25 years from now, I will not be interested enough to read it or comment on it, but I will not deny them the right to enjoy it.
What's good for BYU or Utah is good for the MWC and the state - until late November. That one gets decided on the scoreboard. Get a life.
Forrest | 9:23 p.m. July 13, 2009
BYU got at least a piece of the national championship for the 1984 season,
despite the experts. I suppose Anonymous must have believed the sports
commentators back then, to think it is insane to regard BYU as national champs.
Most recently, the "experts" included the retired football coach on
ESPN who said, just prior to the Utah/Alabama game, that not one Utah starter
would even have been drafted by Alabama. That proved to be just funny! And so
is Anonymous.
#1 Kyle Morrell Fan | 10:03 p.m. July 13, 2009
I appreciate the interest and support of the die hard BYU fans. '84 was an
extemely unbelievable time because of the National Championship and Kyle's
amazing play against Hawaii, along with many others on the team that season.
What impresses me the most however, are the accomplishments these players have
made since then in the world. They are successful businessmen, fathers and
husbands and continually contribute much to the community. They are products of
the environment of BYU and great leaders like Lavell Edwards and Dick Felt who
have instilled these values in these men during their time at BYU. How do I
know this? Because I've been married to Kyle for the past 14 years and see
this first hand every day. Go cougs!
BYU '84 Freshman | 10:33 p.m. July 13, 2009
Thank you for the article. I was a freshman on campus during that special
'84 season. I listened to the Hawaii game on KSL late on Saturday night,
driving my dorm roommate crazy. We didn't have live ESPN and the Internet,
so the best we could do for this game was listen to it. I was trying to picture
in my mind exactly what Kyle did on this play as Paul James explained it and was
excited to watch the replays. The athletic ability required to pull of this
play is incredibly high and that is why you don't see others trying this
today, because you can easily end your career if you do this wrong.
The reason why the '84 team was so special was the defense. This was only one of many times that other teams had the ball inside BYU's 5 yard line and came away with less than a touchdown. You could argue that there were a lot better offense units over the years, but this was the best defensive unit and that is why they won the national championship. The whole team played as a cohesive unit and they were special.
The reason why the '84 team was so special was the defense. This was only one of many times that other teams had the ball inside BYU's 5 yard line and came away with less than a touchdown. You could argue that there were a lot better offense units over the years, but this was the best defensive unit and that is why they won the national championship. The whole team played as a cohesive unit and they were special.
MN Cougar | 10:46 p.m. July 13, 2009
Kyle Morrell was a great player. Blowing out his knee while a Minnesota Viking
was his undoing. The fragile status of the Ute fans comes through in the blog,
as usual. Not having read any Utah stories, I hope that BYU fans don't make
fools of themselves like this on Ute articles. Utah fans certainly don't
need any outside help making themselves looking shallow.
For Kyle Morrell's "#1 Fan" | 11:36 p.m. July 13, 2009
Ref: your 10:03 post
Kyle is currently married?
THAT'S GREAT!!!
I hunted down a 10-year anniversary 1984 BYU NC article about a year ago in which it said that Kyle had been married and then divorced. I had no idea he married again.
Ask him if he remembers he and some of his football pals lip-synching Kool and The Gang's "Celebration" during one of our VHS assemblies when he was a senior! LOL! I NEVER thought he had THAT in him.
He wouldn't know me from a hole in the wall but in some ways he has always been a hero of mine. Your husband had a swagger in high school and college that I remember to this day. I'd bet a hundred bucks he still has a certain air of quiet confidence about him even now.
God bless you two and I wish you all the best!
Warm Regards - Dan Maloy
Kyle is currently married?
THAT'S GREAT!!!
I hunted down a 10-year anniversary 1984 BYU NC article about a year ago in which it said that Kyle had been married and then divorced. I had no idea he married again.
Ask him if he remembers he and some of his football pals lip-synching Kool and The Gang's "Celebration" during one of our VHS assemblies when he was a senior! LOL! I NEVER thought he had THAT in him.
He wouldn't know me from a hole in the wall but in some ways he has always been a hero of mine. Your husband had a swagger in high school and college that I remember to this day. I'd bet a hundred bucks he still has a certain air of quiet confidence about him even now.
God bless you two and I wish you all the best!
Warm Regards - Dan Maloy
Setting the Record | 11:41 p.m. July 13, 2009
As a loyal fan, I have watched every BYU game that I was able to since the early
80's. We could not get all games televised in those days, even though many
were free on KSL.
To my point: I remember this game and this play from '84 very well. BYU was up 12 to 10 with just a few minutes left. Morrel made the big goal line play on third down, so instead of getting a touchdown and going up 17-12, Hawaii had to settle for a field goal, going up 13-12. BYU later scored 6 to win 18-13.
To make a long story short, aside from shifting momentum, the play did not really help BYU win that game. Example, if Hawaii scored a touchdown, BYU wins 18-17, but if they only get a field goal, BYU wins 18-13, which they did.
Not to take away from that great play or from Kyle, but am I the only one who remembers the details from that game and is aware of this?
For years, announcer Paul James referred to that play as a "game-saving tackle", but it wasn't.
To my point: I remember this game and this play from '84 very well. BYU was up 12 to 10 with just a few minutes left. Morrel made the big goal line play on third down, so instead of getting a touchdown and going up 17-12, Hawaii had to settle for a field goal, going up 13-12. BYU later scored 6 to win 18-13.
To make a long story short, aside from shifting momentum, the play did not really help BYU win that game. Example, if Hawaii scored a touchdown, BYU wins 18-17, but if they only get a field goal, BYU wins 18-13, which they did.
Not to take away from that great play or from Kyle, but am I the only one who remembers the details from that game and is aware of this?
For years, announcer Paul James referred to that play as a "game-saving tackle", but it wasn't.
BleedCougarBlue | 11:53 p.m. July 13, 2009
"Setting the Record", while your facts are correct, no doubt
Morrell's play reeeeeally took the wind out of Hawaii's sails.
Besides that, it just looked FREAKING AWESOME!!!
Besides that, it just looked FREAKING AWESOME!!!
Laughing | 12:15 a.m. July 14, 2009
Oh man, people here are funny. Look, I'm a big ute, have been since birth,
but I am still proud that the TDS got this national title. It gives them a great
sense of pride. I honestly hope they get as close as my utes have been the last
few years to getting one. I think, that the more attention we get on either one
team or the other, brings the focus on how strong the feelings are for both
teams in this state. I honestly believe that this is the BIGGEST rivalry in the
country. I just wish we would all stop bickering like children and try and
convince others. Leave the bickering to that week in november and afterwards,
the looser hangs his head, and the winner brightly awaits for next season. This
was big for BYU. Let them celebrate any way they choose. And when we do our 12
and 13 part series about our 2 undefeated seasons, then we can laugh at
ourselves. lol
Blue in '84, Red Now | 12:45 a.m. July 14, 2009
Every time I hear a Coug go on about how lucky Utah was 2008, I remember Kyle
Morrell in that Hawaii game in '84.
I wore blue back then and everyone other Cougar I saw that game with knew what a stroke of luck it was that he timed it so perfect
I wore blue back then and everyone other Cougar I saw that game with knew what a stroke of luck it was that he timed it so perfect
Excellent Journalism | 12:45 a.m. July 14, 2009
I want to commend the DN staff for this series. Not only is it quality writing,
but great investigative reporting. I bet it took a long time for them to
identify all the individual nursing homes and assisted living centers where the
people involved with this event surely live now. It was probably even more
difficult to find the hearing aid event at which Lavell Edwards must be
lecturing (surely they will feature a lot about him in this series).
Maybe, for an encore, they can track down the surviving team members of the great 1941 NY Yankees World Championship squad. DiMaggio's dead, but maybe some of the other guys are still around and could share their memories.
Maybe, for an encore, they can track down the surviving team members of the great 1941 NY Yankees World Championship squad. DiMaggio's dead, but maybe some of the other guys are still around and could share their memories.
Dear Naysayers. | 3:55 a.m. July 14, 2009
Wow, who in the world has put a gun to your head and said they are going to blow
out your brains if you don't read this article?
God gave us agency, to make our own decisions. You must get up in the morning looking for the negative things in life!
You come on here and complain, and complain and complain and complain. Then you take a breath and continue your whining, your sniveling, your churlish comments, your immature rants and your snide remarks.
How about a novel approach, which apparently it is new to you. IF YOU HATE BYU DON'T READ ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. IF YOU LOVE BYU AND THINK THIS IS TOO MUCH, THEN DON'T READ IT. Why do you insist on making yourself miserable. No one else can do that for you. It is your choice.
Love to read about Utah in the future on their two undefeated seasons in a 5 year period and what went on with those players.
GET A LIFE. BECAUSE FROM YOUR COMMENTS THERE IS NOW LIGHT IN YOUR LIFE, ONLY DARKNESS.
God gave us agency, to make our own decisions. You must get up in the morning looking for the negative things in life!
You come on here and complain, and complain and complain and complain. Then you take a breath and continue your whining, your sniveling, your churlish comments, your immature rants and your snide remarks.
How about a novel approach, which apparently it is new to you. IF YOU HATE BYU DON'T READ ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. IF YOU LOVE BYU AND THINK THIS IS TOO MUCH, THEN DON'T READ IT. Why do you insist on making yourself miserable. No one else can do that for you. It is your choice.
Love to read about Utah in the future on their two undefeated seasons in a 5 year period and what went on with those players.
GET A LIFE. BECAUSE FROM YOUR COMMENTS THERE IS NOW LIGHT IN YOUR LIFE, ONLY DARKNESS.
Dear Naysayers | 3:56 a.m. July 14, 2009
ooops, that should be THERE IS NO LIGHT IN YOUR LIFE ONLY DARKNESS.
Re: Living in the Past | 8:30 a.m. July 14, 2009
So does this mean you Yoot fans are going to finally shut up about your 1944
NCAA basketball championship?
Re: Living in the Past | 8:57 a.m. July 14, 2009
"So does this mean you Yoot fans are going to finally shut up about your
1944 NCAA basketball championship?"
We've let that go aeons ago. Only zoobies bring up our '44 title, and only so they can "justify" clinging to '84.
48-24
GO UTES!!!
We've let that go aeons ago. Only zoobies bring up our '44 title, and only so they can "justify" clinging to '84.
48-24
GO UTES!!!
The Wyoming Game | 9:55 a.m. July 15, 2009
was also another close call where BYU TE David Mills made a miraculous catch if
I remember right with a severe eye injury to preserve victory. The score was
41-38 and the only thing that kept Wyoming from winning is that it botched an
early extra point and went for two a couple of more times and didn't get
it, both teams actually scored six touchdowns.
THEeyepatch | 12:36 p.m. July 15, 2009
Looks like a HORSECOLLAR tackle, but I guess it was legal back then. 25 years of
positive reinforcement. The only shinning moment in BYU history, 1984 YEE-HAW!
? Knowwhat | 8:27 a.m. | 8:40 p.m. Aug. 3, 2009
Whatever ute.
opie | 9:09 p.m. Sept. 12, 2009
When was the last time U of U won a national football championship?
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