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Utah Jazz: Millsap's contract causing concern
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arch | 1:46 p.m. July 12, 2009
Sound like millsap was in it for the money. See ya milsap sitting on the bench
in portland when you could have been a starter in utah
Portland fan | 1:53 p.m. July 12, 2009
This is a lousy situation for you guys. You must just HATE Boozer now!
So....are you all going to boo him on opening night? He has just done everything
he can to hurt your team. What a double-crosser.
I wouldn't blame your management if they don't match this offer.
Not to be a total jerk, but I think Portland should make a tiny offer to Brevin Knight, too.
I wouldn't blame your management if they don't match this offer.
Not to be a total jerk, but I think Portland should make a tiny offer to Brevin Knight, too.
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Portland fan again | 2:14 p.m. July 12, 2009
There's not much underhanded about this. BOOZER is the one holding you
random. Portland signed Millsap to an offer - Millsap signed on the dotted line
- because we want him.
Calling us bullies and underhanded - really? We suffered for YEARS with awful teams because we overpaid some shady guys. Now you're dealing with that. It was our mistake then (Randolph, Darius Miles) and its your management's fault now (though they must feel really double-crossed by Boozer and I don't blame them).
The only way it's underhanded is if Portland doesn't really want Millsap. In that case, this would be leverage to force Utah to agree to Portland's terms in a 3-way trade to unload Boozer. (My guess is Utah had a chance BEFORE the signing, if this is the case, and tried to call Portland's bluff.) If Portland is happy to do that but ALSO happy to have Millsap, then sorry, it's not underhanded.
Certainly not more underhanded than Utah's original acquisition of Boozer, ironically. A little karma maybe.
Calling us bullies and underhanded - really? We suffered for YEARS with awful teams because we overpaid some shady guys. Now you're dealing with that. It was our mistake then (Randolph, Darius Miles) and its your management's fault now (though they must feel really double-crossed by Boozer and I don't blame them).
The only way it's underhanded is if Portland doesn't really want Millsap. In that case, this would be leverage to force Utah to agree to Portland's terms in a 3-way trade to unload Boozer. (My guess is Utah had a chance BEFORE the signing, if this is the case, and tried to call Portland's bluff.) If Portland is happy to do that but ALSO happy to have Millsap, then sorry, it's not underhanded.
Certainly not more underhanded than Utah's original acquisition of Boozer, ironically. A little karma maybe.
Doesn't matter | 2:39 p.m. July 12, 2009
Doesn't matter if it was underhanded or not.. Pritchard hasn't shown
himself, yet, to be that canny a gamer. Over paying players just because you
have the money results in teams like the much feared Isaiah Thomas Knicks. Paul
Allen isn't a billionaire because he's stupid. Sooner or later
Pritchard will have to show real results..not just high profile but meaningless
moves
It doesn't make a lot of difference if you have a whole busload of quality role players unless you also have a couple of legitimate franchise players to lead the way. Right now, Portland is already in a much better competitive position than the Jazz.. Assuming you can get your talented players on the same page with management and coaches. ed in az
It doesn't make a lot of difference if you have a whole busload of quality role players unless you also have a couple of legitimate franchise players to lead the way. Right now, Portland is already in a much better competitive position than the Jazz.. Assuming you can get your talented players on the same page with management and coaches. ed in az
ed in az | 2:51 p.m. July 12, 2009
Oh, and the Jazz did nothing underhanded in signing Carlos in the first place.
The Cav's allegedly asked him to do something that was clearly against
league rules and against his own self interest.. Just so he could stay with
LeBron.. Surprise! He signed with Utah for a few tens of $Millions more than
the potential Cavs offer.. There is no one who says that the Jazz knew anything
about a WINKY WINKY arrangement between the Cavs and Carlos...
If it actually ever happened, it speaks to Carlos character, and not to the Jazz breaking or bending any league rules. He may have broken his word, but we'll never know.
Karma has yet to play a punitive role for Carlos or the Jazz
If it actually ever happened, it speaks to Carlos character, and not to the Jazz breaking or bending any league rules. He may have broken his word, but we'll never know.
Karma has yet to play a punitive role for Carlos or the Jazz
Jake | 3:09 p.m. July 12, 2009
The Millsap deal is probably about right, of course the Jazz could have offered
him earlier instead of allowing him to play for such a disgraceful (under $800k)
pay compared to other players in the league. I'd be feeling very little
love from the Jazz too if I were Millsap, but the bottom line is he's a
talent worth having for sure. Also if we look back to our 12 wins in a row, as
Boozer came back watch his numbers go up and Millsap's numbers go down, yet
the loss's started piling up with Boozer back. It's an easy and clear
decision to move Booz. The upside to this is if we can make a move with Chicago
for Tyrus Thomas, we are into Milsap and Thomas for about the same money as
Boozer, which means we get offense and defense that far out ways Boozer.
jake | 3:13 p.m. July 12, 2009
However I think some of the key problems start from the top.. Sloan is a good
45-55 wins per season coach, but it takes 60+ to really show you are ready for a
finals. Look what Adelman did to Houston this last year without t-mac. Watch
what happens to Artest this year after being coached by Jackson, Jackson knows
how to get into players heads and get them thinking the right way. Next, stats
only show a portion of a players abilities, which if you see what Milsap has
been able to do, he fills the shoes of Boozer easy, and also is a teammate you
want with his workhorse approach vs Boozer's half effort.
jake | 3:14 p.m. July 12, 2009
Part 3
Look at Boozer in the Olympics... every time he was on the court it hurt the team and showed how much better talent there is in players like Bosh and Wade... We need D-Will to go to work in recruiting Wade and Bosh, move Boozer the cancer, trade AK for Tmac to clear having to pay AK 17 mill next year, then we have options, resign TMAC on an affordable contract if he does well, or take that 23 million plus Hapring's 6.5 mill, and go after Bosh and Wade!!! Deron, Bosh and Wade gets us a ring for sure!!!
We won't be able to change the stgma of this market without getting some big names and thats what it's going to take to get rings.
Look at Boozer in the Olympics... every time he was on the court it hurt the team and showed how much better talent there is in players like Bosh and Wade... We need D-Will to go to work in recruiting Wade and Bosh, move Boozer the cancer, trade AK for Tmac to clear having to pay AK 17 mill next year, then we have options, resign TMAC on an affordable contract if he does well, or take that 23 million plus Hapring's 6.5 mill, and go after Bosh and Wade!!! Deron, Bosh and Wade gets us a ring for sure!!!
We won't be able to change the stgma of this market without getting some big names and thats what it's going to take to get rings.
jake | 3:15 p.m. July 12, 2009
Part 4
Look at Boozer in the Olympics... every time he was on the court it hurt the team and showed how much better talent there is in players like Bosh and Wade... We need D-Will to go to work in recruiting Wade and Bosh, move Boozer the cancer, trade AK for Tmac to clear having to pay AK 17 mill next year, then we have options, resign TMAC on an affordable contract if he does well, or take that 23 million plus Hapring's 6.5 mill, and go after Bosh and Wade!!! Deron, Bosh and Wade gets us a ring for sure!!!
We won't be able to change the stgma of this market without getting some big names and thats what it's going to take to get rings.
Look at Boozer in the Olympics... every time he was on the court it hurt the team and showed how much better talent there is in players like Bosh and Wade... We need D-Will to go to work in recruiting Wade and Bosh, move Boozer the cancer, trade AK for Tmac to clear having to pay AK 17 mill next year, then we have options, resign TMAC on an affordable contract if he does well, or take that 23 million plus Hapring's 6.5 mill, and go after Bosh and Wade!!! Deron, Bosh and Wade gets us a ring for sure!!!
We won't be able to change the stgma of this market without getting some big names and thats what it's going to take to get rings.
Miles | 3:27 p.m. July 12, 2009
OK dreamers, we are not going to get Bosh or Wade unless we do a sign and trade
for them this year with Boozer. As free agents they are not going to come here
and play. Tmac has not proven to anyone that he will even be able to play in
the future. He might be done. The best thing the Jazz can do is play out the
season and free up as much money as possible while the youngsters on the team
get experience. If Jerry could develop CJ, Brewer and Koufus and even Fez into
being better players then we could use Boozers, Millsaps, Harprings and Korvers
money to fill in the gaps for 2010. We wouldn't have to rebuild from
scratch but for one year. Save the money now, pay for better players next year.
Keep Boozer for the year. Let Millsap walk, retire Harpring and keep Korver
for the year. Who cares what our record is this year, we are not going to win
the championship.
Cody | 3:42 p.m. July 12, 2009
You have to Match Millsap. After this year, he gets 6 to 7 Mil a year and that
frees up money for a shooting 2 or 3. We're going to loose Boozer anyway
and besides, he wants more than $12,700 per year. Look at what other players are
making and you'll see Paul's worth it. AK's contract will be off
the books after next year and the Jazz will reload.
SJ | 3:47 p.m. July 12, 2009
Too many idiot fans posting that the offer is too much. I thought the same way
until I read the details. Remove the signing bonus and the contract IS the 6
million mid-level range. The Jazz need to match the deal, trade Boozer for two
other mid-level players, and rotate Millsap, Okur, AK, and Koufas at PF
depending on the opposing line-up. The Jazz should consider the bonus back pay
for getting Millsap at a bargain the past 3 years.
inthewilds | 4:15 p.m. July 12, 2009
the jazz will pay 20.6 mil. with the luxury tax. they have to unload boozer in a
lopsided deal, and the only team left under the limit is OKC. they don't
want boozer. any other trade and the jazz still pay the tax.
Miles.
the blazers finished with 54 wins the second best record in the west tied with the nuggets and spurs.
they were the forth seed due to the tie breaker. thier also the second youngest team in the league, and with milsap, well lets let the chips fall as they may.
good luck SLC
Miles.
the blazers finished with 54 wins the second best record in the west tied with the nuggets and spurs.
they were the forth seed due to the tie breaker. thier also the second youngest team in the league, and with milsap, well lets let the chips fall as they may.
good luck SLC
Stupid Management? | 4:46 p.m. July 12, 2009
What is the point of saying you will match any offer for someone you want to
keep. It just encourages a team (IE Portland) to try to figure out a contract
that is to painful to match. It did not work the last time they tried it (Mo
Williams). They kept their mouths shut with CJ and he got a reasonable offer
which they matched.
It seems the Jazz Management either are stupid if they really wanted Millsap back or if they did not then they were trying to get someone to overpay.
I do not get the strategy here??
It seems the Jazz Management either are stupid if they really wanted Millsap back or if they did not then they were trying to get someone to overpay.
I do not get the strategy here??
Todorojo | 4:49 p.m. July 12, 2009
The loss of this young man is going to come back to haunt the Jazz. Boozer
doesn't even want to be here. Sure, he says he does when other teams pass
him over because he's a classic hold-out type of player. But Millsap is the
sort of role player every team would love to have. Jazz have another
non-championship round year ahead of them and many more to look forward to after
that. Sad.
RE: Blazer Fan Predictions | 4:50 p.m. July 12, 2009
You can have Milsap and the contract that goes with it. We're not going to
pay him 10 times what we paid him last year and pay him $20 million in effective
cost next year. As for your predictions they are accurate until the Suns and
Rockets are shown above the Jazz. They are both rebuilding and have lost key
players (Shaq and Yao) The Jazz will be in the playoffs next year and have a
chance to win it all with Boozer, if he sticks it out for the year.
blazerfan | 5:03 p.m. July 12, 2009
Correction as far as standings,, if u take a close look,, blazers finished tied
for second place in the western conference, Utah finished 8th.
bla, bla ,bla | 5:17 p.m. July 12, 2009
Suck to let go Paul from the Team, He is a lot better than CJ Miles, also
Kirilenko doesnt deserve the giant paycheck just being a "backup"
player, what's wrong with the organization?????!!!!!!
Please keep the good ones, AK 47 is over, he is not the all star we have years ago, Boozer...he is just a basketball pimp and CJ...go back to highschool!!!
Please keep the good ones, AK 47 is over, he is not the all star we have years ago, Boozer...he is just a basketball pimp and CJ...go back to highschool!!!
matt | 5:48 p.m. July 12, 2009
just say no to millsap. i love paul but for not the money. if you are going to
pay 10 mil then at least try and get odom or try to get lee for 7. keep
booz/williams/okur long term
Miles | 5:59 p.m. July 12, 2009
Inthewilds....Thanks.....My point is the Blazers did not sign Millsap to stick
it to the Jazz. They signed him to get better and compete with the Lakers,
Spurs and Nuggets. We are not the ones to beat out west. I still believe that
for luxury tax issues we trade Boozer and let Millsap walk. Bottom line is
Boozer didn't keep his word and now we are going to lose both PF's.
In the long run, I believe it's the best thing that could happen to the
Jazz as AK's contract is gone in 2011. Just play Koufus, Fez and AK at the
4 and tell Jerry to change his offense. Or let Memo and Dwill play the pick and
roll and everyone else stand around.
Jake | 6:01 p.m. July 12, 2009
Bosh has already expressed interest in playing with Wade, and walked off the
court with D-will after the game in Toronto, also playing with D-will in the
Olympics, so it's without doubt something possible, especially when D-wade
has expressed that money isn't his biggest concern, winning is. And since
neither team would part with Bosh or Wade in a trade that's a joke to even
mention it. The only way those players become available is on their terms,
meaning after their contracts are up and they choose to go to a team they feel
will get them a ring. As far as TMAC, (Miles) your right he may be done, really
it doesn't matter who we trade AK to just as long as it's expiring
contracts to make room for some new big players next year. The Jazz need to
rebuild for sure they can't compete unless they get a ton better the moves
other teams have made... I think D-will has more pull then many people think,
Lebron won't leave Cleveland so what other all stars would they want to
pair with? Utah's a good choice.
Carseman23 | 7:20 p.m. July 12, 2009
I think that the reason that portland wanted Milsap because he is good and
avalable. I think that they should get boozer back to Cleveland, and then sign
milsap back to the Jazz and Everyone would be happy:) un less Boozer can really
show that he wants to stay w/ the Jazz in this season.
to blazer fan | 7:29 p.m. July 12, 2009
I'm glad you're so excited about possibly signing Milsap and finishing
your predicted 3rd in the conference. No one will beat LA so you'll be out
in the first or second round....if thats something to be excited about then good
for you!!!!
oh and Greg Oden a BUST!!!!!!
Didn't Portand draft Sam Bowie before Jordan!!!!
oh and Greg Oden a BUST!!!!!!
Didn't Portand draft Sam Bowie before Jordan!!!!
TNJAZZFAN | 8:04 p.m. July 12, 2009
BROTHER!!!! I believe that some of the people that post on here have no concept
of the game of basketball.
Just because you pay AK too much doesn't mean you overspend again. Quit complaining about his contract..it's done...history..finished!!
Milsaps has great energy and is a very strong rebounder for his size. He is a below average defender, has below average jumpshot and cannot create his own shot off the bounce.
I have been a jazz fan for 20 years believe me when I say Milsap is a product of system. Remember Shandon Anderson..Byron Russell..Deshawn Stevenson..to name a few. All thought they would find success somewhere else..all were wrong. Antoine Carr, Danny Manning, Donyell Marshall, Calbert Chaney had good solid years playing in jazz system.
Wish Milsap the best but he will never be more than a role player in the NBA. He needs to find out what his agent is smoking because Portland only targeted him after they were rejected by 3 other players.
I too hope they find a way to move Boozer. I find it very difficult to watch him play. Go Jazz!!
Just because you pay AK too much doesn't mean you overspend again. Quit complaining about his contract..it's done...history..finished!!
Milsaps has great energy and is a very strong rebounder for his size. He is a below average defender, has below average jumpshot and cannot create his own shot off the bounce.
I have been a jazz fan for 20 years believe me when I say Milsap is a product of system. Remember Shandon Anderson..Byron Russell..Deshawn Stevenson..to name a few. All thought they would find success somewhere else..all were wrong. Antoine Carr, Danny Manning, Donyell Marshall, Calbert Chaney had good solid years playing in jazz system.
Wish Milsap the best but he will never be more than a role player in the NBA. He needs to find out what his agent is smoking because Portland only targeted him after they were rejected by 3 other players.
I too hope they find a way to move Boozer. I find it very difficult to watch him play. Go Jazz!!
pdxfy | 8:29 p.m. July 12, 2009
TNJAZZFAN- Besides Turkoglu who was Portland rejected by?
Portland fan | 8:33 p.m. July 12, 2009
BTW don't confuse me with the more confrontational "Blazers
fan."
What THREE players did Portland target first???
What THREE players did Portland target first???
Blazersfan | 8:54 p.m. July 12, 2009
PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS only want to better themselves and not giving up anything
by offering Milsap a contract. They don't want Odom because he is not right
fit. They needs a PG or PF who can defend (Milsap). By offering contract to
Milsap they will accomplish one of their goals without giving up anything.
1) If Utah decides to match the offer keeping Milsap, Utah has to trade Boozer. One possibility (maybe the only one)to trade Boozer is to Chicago and that will gives Trail Blazer Kirk Hinrich, a PG.
2) If Utah decides not to match the Trail Blazers will get Milsap.
So no matter what Utah does, the Trail Blazers will get what they want. Are they bully? Stand up to them, match the offer.
It is a smart move, the Jazz only have themselves to blame for. The Trail Blazers simply takes advantage of the Utah's cap situation.
Now Utah only has only one decision to make Milsap or Boozer, either way the Trail Blazers will have the player they want all along.
1) If Utah decides to match the offer keeping Milsap, Utah has to trade Boozer. One possibility (maybe the only one)to trade Boozer is to Chicago and that will gives Trail Blazer Kirk Hinrich, a PG.
2) If Utah decides not to match the Trail Blazers will get Milsap.
So no matter what Utah does, the Trail Blazers will get what they want. Are they bully? Stand up to them, match the offer.
It is a smart move, the Jazz only have themselves to blame for. The Trail Blazers simply takes advantage of the Utah's cap situation.
Now Utah only has only one decision to make Milsap or Boozer, either way the Trail Blazers will have the player they want all along.
BLAZERS FAN | 8:59 p.m. July 12, 2009
What's funny, is all the Smack Talking that I have heard from Jazz fans
over the years; about how much better Utah is than Portland. This puts a nail
in that coffin. Portland will win the NBA Championship next year, GUARANTEED!
OrlandoJazzFan | 9:17 p.m. July 12, 2009
How about instead of matching the "Toxic offer" by the Blazers.. the
Jazz put in their own "Toxic offer" for Lamar O or the Lakers. The
Lakers are only offering around 5-6 mil which is the same contract as
Paul's w/Portland. Lamar is three times the player as Millsap.. Something
to at least consider.
Appreciate | 11:03 p.m. July 12, 2009
I appreciate what Paul did for the Jazz and his work ethic. It was refreshing to
see. Were we watching someone intelligent enough to know that was the way to the
big ticket or is that really who he is? Once the big money comes, we'll
find out, whether he's in a Jazz or Blazer uniform.
Looking at the dollars, I don't see how the Jazz can take the hit. Long term it will only force their hand on future deals. I'd hate to lose out on players in the future because of something they do to fix a small problem.
I dislike Boozer even more for sticking the Jazz for one more season. He absolutely needs to put up All-Star numbers, and perhaps he will with a new contract looming.
Perhaps the team can learn to set contracts so they don't expire at the same time, if that is even possible.
Looking at the dollars, I don't see how the Jazz can take the hit. Long term it will only force their hand on future deals. I'd hate to lose out on players in the future because of something they do to fix a small problem.
I dislike Boozer even more for sticking the Jazz for one more season. He absolutely needs to put up All-Star numbers, and perhaps he will with a new contract looming.
Perhaps the team can learn to set contracts so they don't expire at the same time, if that is even possible.
The worst thing that could | 11:29 p.m. July 12, 2009
happen is for Utah to match this deal and keep Millsap. If they do they will
swallow a poison pill this season. They will also be in the Lux tax for the next
2 years. That means they will not be getting good deals on great talent.
They will be stuck with an undersized PF who can rebound but who can't create his own shot, will not draw a double team and defends slightly better than Boozer.
Is that worth 2 years of lux tax and 5 years of mediocre results?
Let Millsap go to POR! Make a 2 year offer to Lee. If he does not take it get Gooden or another vet for 1 year. If all else fails trade Harp's expiring contract for a young promising PF. Harp will get released and come back.
Sometime this year trade Boozer for the PF of the future and also get a shooting SG thrown in.
That really helps the team. If the Jazz get the right SG they can let Korver go to save cap space and Harp if not already used.
Go get the talent that is needed. The next 2 years are great opportunities.
They will be stuck with an undersized PF who can rebound but who can't create his own shot, will not draw a double team and defends slightly better than Boozer.
Is that worth 2 years of lux tax and 5 years of mediocre results?
Let Millsap go to POR! Make a 2 year offer to Lee. If he does not take it get Gooden or another vet for 1 year. If all else fails trade Harp's expiring contract for a young promising PF. Harp will get released and come back.
Sometime this year trade Boozer for the PF of the future and also get a shooting SG thrown in.
That really helps the team. If the Jazz get the right SG they can let Korver go to save cap space and Harp if not already used.
Go get the talent that is needed. The next 2 years are great opportunities.
Millsap's agents | 12:16 a.m. July 13, 2009
There are some agents that certain teams refuse to deal with. Most agents have
working relationships with most teams. It is a two way street that works for
everyone involved.
Millsap's agents do not understand relationship marketing. They are sending clear signals that they are clowns. They had nothing to do with Millsap getting this offer. In the long run the Prichards of this world will deal with them and take their fingers. While the decent organizations will avoid them.
Millsap's agents do not understand relationship marketing. They are sending clear signals that they are clowns. They had nothing to do with Millsap getting this offer. In the long run the Prichards of this world will deal with them and take their fingers. While the decent organizations will avoid them.
please | 12:35 a.m. July 13, 2009
do not sign paul.
Anonymous | 1:09 a.m. July 13, 2009
If signing Milsap means keeping Williams happy. it's absolutely worth it.
Apollo Sun | 5:31 a.m. July 13, 2009
I wish the Jazz management read some of these posts and took the fans view into
account. Clearly the general consensus is that as much as we (Jazz fans) all
liked and appreciated Paul Millsap's effort as backup to Boozer... we also
have the intelligence and Bball knowledge to realize that he is not worth the
crazy money being offered by our rivals Portland. As many have already said
Portland made this offer to put the Jazz in a difficult position and force them
over the luxury-tax to please their fans.
WELL CALL THEIR BLUFF! Let them have their backup for all-star salary. Turn the tables. Shame to lose Paul, but not worth financially crippling the Jazz for years to come. We all know the right move here:
LET MILLSAP GO. PATIENTLY LOOK FOR TRADE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOOZER THAT MAKE LONGTERM SENSE. AND IN THE MEANTIME, PLAY OUR EXISTING PLAYERS ON THE ROSTER THAT WILL BE AROUND FOR YEARS TO COME! GIVE KOUFOS, BREWER AND CJ THE CHANCE TO DEVELOP. START AK AND TRY AND GIVE HIM HIS CONFIDENCE BACK.
WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE HAVE A BAD SEASON, GET TWO LOTTERY PICKS AND SALARY SPACE NEXT SEASON
WELL CALL THEIR BLUFF! Let them have their backup for all-star salary. Turn the tables. Shame to lose Paul, but not worth financially crippling the Jazz for years to come. We all know the right move here:
LET MILLSAP GO. PATIENTLY LOOK FOR TRADE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOOZER THAT MAKE LONGTERM SENSE. AND IN THE MEANTIME, PLAY OUR EXISTING PLAYERS ON THE ROSTER THAT WILL BE AROUND FOR YEARS TO COME! GIVE KOUFOS, BREWER AND CJ THE CHANCE TO DEVELOP. START AK AND TRY AND GIVE HIM HIS CONFIDENCE BACK.
WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE HAVE A BAD SEASON, GET TWO LOTTERY PICKS AND SALARY SPACE NEXT SEASON
ed in az | 12:20 p.m. July 13, 2009
It's been posted elsewhere in this thread, but remember that Paul got paid
around $800K doing Carlos job for him this season while Carlos sat in the Armani
shade cheering him on getting his $12 mill.. If you average Paul's first 3
years at 800K with the next three years at 10 million... average is..what
5.4millions... High, but not an extravagant amount for what he's
contributed and can in the future. Basketball, unfortunately is not a
sentimental or very fair business.
jumpinjax | 2:06 p.m. July 13, 2009
people please use your brains!!!!! the contract for Milsap is not to much. Look
at the money players make that are somewhat equal to him. Ariza,Mcdyess,come to
mind but there is a bunch more.Besides if korver is worth 5 million then milsap
is adleast worth a couple million more.Or has everyone forgot the last game of
the year and milsaps 12 or 14 pts. in a row.Where was Boozer? oh ya, thats
right, on the bench for the whole 4th quarter while Price and Milsap almost
brought us back. To bad the Jazz arent smart enough to offer him a deal
first,They could of made it back heavy instead of front!!!!!!!!! Then if you
knew this might happen how about drafting Dejuan Blair to fill the need. A
backup pg after how Price finished the season? unbelievable!!!!
Do or do not | 3:00 p.m. July 13, 2009
"But bullies the Blazers are trying to be."
Thanks, Yoda.
Thanks, Yoda.
TNJAZZFAN | 4:07 p.m. July 13, 2009
3 players that blazers coveted much more than Milsaps are Odom, Lee and of
course Turk. So for Paul's agent to be out there telling everyone how
Portland targeted him is a bunch of bull.
The only player in recent memory that Jazz should have kept is Williams. Jazz made right decision concerning rest. So if they let Milsap go I have to assume they do not see him as power forward of future as so many of you do.
He truly is a scrappy guy but he lacks the quickness to guard small forwards away from basket and he just doesn't have the size to slow down the good pf's in the league. Namely Gasol, Duncan, Amare, Dirk, Garnett, Howard to name a few.
The only player in recent memory that Jazz should have kept is Williams. Jazz made right decision concerning rest. So if they let Milsap go I have to assume they do not see him as power forward of future as so many of you do.
He truly is a scrappy guy but he lacks the quickness to guard small forwards away from basket and he just doesn't have the size to slow down the good pf's in the league. Namely Gasol, Duncan, Amare, Dirk, Garnett, Howard to name a few.
SoCal | 6:12 p.m. July 13, 2009
I live on Socal. ESPN radio reported down here, that the Jazz have told Milsap
that they (The Jazz)have matched Portalnds offer. ESPN isn't always
correct, but the do seem to know things before anyone else.
Jazzfann11 | 12:14 a.m. July 14, 2009
I think I speak for every jazz fan when i say, i just want the jazz to do
something. There has been tons of talk of them doing something, and they have
been trying to make a move, but until they actually do something, and make a
move i will be upset. If the jazz waiting and not actually doing something then
there will be nothing left for them to do, cuz all the free agents will be gone,
and all the teams that have cap (detriot, NY, Portland, OKC) won't have any
more cap so we wouldn't be able to dish off boozer. So just do something
jazz! please! and do it quick before there is nothing more to do!
Milsap too expensive | 9:36 a.m. July 14, 2009
Milsap is a double double guy only because of the structured system the Jazz
use. The Jazz should let him go and he will soon find out he is not worth
36M....no way. Reconcile with Boozer and give one time all-star AK the ball more
so he can show us some skill with the 16M in compensation. The shots need to go
more to D-will and AK and forget about Milsap. Create space for the following
year to even possibly resign Boozer or a better player.
Blaze the Blazers | 10:41 a.m. July 14, 2009
The Blazers are just trying to tie us down fo the future! Millsap is good
because he is in this system. I want to keep him here, but I honestly
wouldn't mind letting him go and forcing Portland to pay him while he sits
on the bench and does nothing for them! PROFESSOR: Are you Kidding? Did a
Portland fan really just say that? this might be a news flash for you but...even
if SLC isn't the hottest NBA city...Portland draws even less starpower...
the sole reason you have any quality players is because you were so bad for so
long that you got a bunch of good draft picks that have panned out OK for you.
Portland is about as attractive to NBA players as a fat chick with a mustache is
to Brad Pitt! But keep dreaming bro....keep dreaming! GO JAZZ!
no one is worth it | 12:13 p.m. July 14, 2009
Lets get this stright........no one absoultly no one is worth this kind of
money. I wont care if he is gone, nor do I care if the jazz ever wina title, not
if it costs this kind of money.
Boozer can go right along with Millsap. The Jazz should put a team on the floor that wants to play, have fun and love the game. Go away cry babies. The rest of us are having financial issues in these times. People that play games for a living should suffer along with the rest of us.
Boozer can go right along with Millsap. The Jazz should put a team on the floor that wants to play, have fun and love the game. Go away cry babies. The rest of us are having financial issues in these times. People that play games for a living should suffer along with the rest of us.
Paul, Fire Your Agent! | 12:15 p.m. July 14, 2009
Hiring your Uncle as your Agent is about the WORST choice ever. He almost ruined
any chance Paul had at getting a contract demanding more than $10Mil, gets lucky
when Portland tries to stick it to the Jazz for spite otherwise Paul is looking
at mid level exception money. Then, with the Jazz supporting Paul and singing
his praise his entire career, his agent bad talks the Jazz organization and Utah
to offend the fans & organization that WAS likely to match an overpriced
contract and make Paul the Long Term STARTER, not bench player!
PAUL, NEVER HIRE FAMILY! FIRE THIS CLOWN! He obviously has no experience as an agent and even if he did, he can not separate good business and over zealous family support!
PAUL, NEVER HIRE FAMILY! FIRE THIS CLOWN! He obviously has no experience as an agent and even if he did, he can not separate good business and over zealous family support!
Travis | 1:51 p.m. July 14, 2009
DON'T MATCH. The Jazz are not considering their options carefully if they
match. I know we love Milsap, and he is awesome, but he's not
$10-million-right-now awesome. There are other guys on the market that can give
you what Milsap gives at a much lower cost. Why don't the Jazz make a push
for Odom, spend less money, and actually have some length on defense?
we need paul | 6:40 p.m. July 14, 2009
ah heck no, i know you guys don't seriously mean that. you guys can
seriously tell me that letting paul milsap go is a good decision. so let me get
this straight, first we chase booz out, and now pauls leaving, and now your
sitting back and saying, "don't spend the money, hes not worth
it." wow, this is why you guys don't run the jazz, thank goodness we
have o'conner
Overpaid? | 1:01 p.m. July 16, 2009
Give me a break. You've got a team that pays Andrei Kirilenko as much as
Lebron James and pays Carlos Boozer 12 million per year and some fans are
calling Millsap overpaid? Paul Millsap is probably wondering why he worked his
butt off but his team might not pay what the market will bear. Why? Because
the Jazz overpaid other guys while Paul was still in college. What were
Boozer's numbers in Cleveland? About the same as Millsap's now.
Millsap's getting much less than what Boozer got, and the contract is only
for 4 years. What's more, you know Millsap plays well in the Jazz
system--we didn't know that with Boozer. If this is a rip-off, it's
no where near the kind of rip-off that Boozer and AK were.
How about we admit all NBA players are overpaid? Sign 12 scrubs to the league minimum so the Jazz can go 0-82 while we all cheer on the Miller family bank account! That's something to root for!? Thankfully the Millers don't run their team that way.
How about we admit all NBA players are overpaid? Sign 12 scrubs to the league minimum so the Jazz can go 0-82 while we all cheer on the Miller family bank account! That's something to root for!? Thankfully the Millers don't run their team that way.
Fact! | 2:32 p.m. July 16, 2009
Milsap was drafted in the 2nd round and therefore recieved a minimum rookie
salary in the neighborhood of 3/4 mil per season for 3 years. The guy worked his
butt off and made a contribution his 2nd & 3rd years to the success of this
team. He has been drastically underpaid for 2 years now, I believe it's
time he was rewarded with a decent contract that is front loaded just to pay him
back for the 2 years he was underpaid, and then after that you only have a
contract that is basically 20 mil for 3 years, and that isn't over paying
for his value. Bite the bullet Jazz your still not over extended with Paul. Bye,
bye Booze. Go Jazz!
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Let Sap walk, trade Booze and AK to Houston for TMac's crappy expiring contract, Landry or Scola, and a first round pick. Develop Koufos and let Memo play the 4. Let the team be scrappy and entertaining while losing and keep our pick in the lotto. If we're good, we'll lose our pick to Philly.
Next year, 2 picks in the lottery and possibly a good 3rd pick from the trade. 3 first round picks and a lot of money to throw at Wade, Joe Johnson, Bosh, etc. We'd be good in 2010 and for years after that.