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Utah Jazz: Millsap's contract causing concern

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Newbie | 4:56 p.m. July 11, 2009
See ya later Paul. Have fun in Portland making way too much money.
Blazer fan | 5:09 p.m. July 11, 2009
It's going to be nice to have Millsap come off the bench and back up Aldridge.

Jazz fans, stop assuming that the 3 team deal between POR, CHI and UTA is still on, it is not!

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Jazzfan | 5:10 p.m. July 11, 2009
Way way too much money. Let him go!!!! Especially after his agents comments about how they were offended by the Jazz's offer, it sounded greedy
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Well | 5:14 p.m. July 11, 2009
I do hope that you would be a lot more appreciated for your excellent work ethics in Portland. Unlike Utah, where the Jazz and the fans still think that you should be under valued. The best of luck and enjoy your well deserved opportunity.
Anonymous | 5:16 p.m. July 11, 2009
If I understand correctly, that comes to 7.6M against the salary cap (6.2 plus 1/4 of the signing bonus), so the question is one of immediate cash flow. If the Jazz have the 10.3M in an account ready to pay up front, the rest of the contract is really not as bad as expected, especially in terms of cap room for the future.
bc  | 5:16 p.m. July 11, 2009
see ya time to become anther no name shannon anderson, vaghan , russell,eisle and the list goes on.
Mark A. in Logan | 5:17 p.m. July 11, 2009
I love Millsap as much as anyone, but I think the Jazz would be making a mistake paying this permanent backup player starter's money. I say you make Portland eat the contract they tried to trick the Jazz to match with.
Alexy | 5:23 p.m. July 11, 2009
Hahahahaha, there is no way we would match it. Boozer screwed us last season by playing poorly and now by opting in. I bet you D-Will is livid.
Anonymous | 5:24 p.m. July 11, 2009
Love Millsap, but not worth that much money.
LOTTERY OR MILLSAP! | 5:25 p.m. July 11, 2009
The signing bonus is to make Utah go deepper into the luxury tax. However, the Jazz need to make this move. It will hurt now but payoff or Playoff later however you want to look at it. When Loozer leave we'll need the better Millsap. If Portland gets Millsap the Jazz will behind Portland for years to come. Make my words Millsap will continue to work on his game and become better every year. He's not afraid of hard work.

Take your pick MILLSAP OR LOTTERY!

LOOZER IS TERRIBLE
AJ SOFT
CJ TERRIBLE
BREWER CANT SHOOT

WE NEED MILLSAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a Joke! | 5:29 p.m. July 11, 2009
Each person has their strengths, talents, and chosen profession. When more and more hard-working men and women are loosing their jobs each day, it shows the audacious selfishness of "Professional" athletes to demand enough money to provide multiple lifetimes of comfort to hundreds, if not thousands, of people as a signing bonus.
Observation-ist | 5:32 p.m. July 11, 2009
It's times like this that are a blunt reminder that the NBA is a business. Fans think of it as entertainment. Greg Miller, KOC, etc don't think of it that way.

It would be helpful DMN if you would help us fans understand how signing bonus money counts against the salary cap.

Paul's spokespeople can get off their high horses about how the Jazz under-valued Paul and how Portland really understood. That fact is that Paul was Portland's second (at best) choice after Hedo Turkolu. Had Hedo signed with Portland, Paul may not have such a lucrative offer.

As a fan, I love Paul. He's everything I desire in an NBA player: Tough, Hard Working, Unassuming, Productive. As a business owner, it will be interesting to see how the Jazz respond. Paul is certainly worth 6-7M per year long before AK is worth 16-17M per year or Boozer worth 12M.

I would still try and trade Boozer for Rip Hamilton. Salaries are comparable.

Certainly the Jazz can't complain about a front loaded contract. They did it to Cleveland to get Carlos.
David | 5:33 p.m. July 11, 2009
David Lee anyone?
Anonymous | 5:34 p.m. July 11, 2009
I love Paul, but I'm sorry, those numbers are obscene.
Groundhogday | 5:39 p.m. July 11, 2009
Millsap is a great high energy reserve, and perhaps can develop into a viable NBA starter. But given his lack of either size or a jump shot, he will never be an offensive force. Defensively, he hustles but has trouble defending quality bigs. I love Millsap, as a quality role player. But you just don't give this kind of money to a role player.
NO MILLSAP EMPTY ARENA | 5:44 p.m. July 11, 2009
Those number are not high. AK 16M are high. MILLAP is worth every penny+.
just me | 5:51 p.m. July 11, 2009
just friggin match it!
rcc | 5:52 p.m. July 11, 2009
Are you trying to tell me the Jazz don"t have it??? That is just crazy!!! They havent paid luxuary tax ever, You dont think they aren"t making millions over the years?? Pay up for once. Maybe you could take it from your medeorcore coach. He can"t ever seem to win a big one. Maybe he needs to learn how to moviate good players to become great and not choke in real game situtations!!!!!They never make a trade that means much so just pay up.
Zac | 5:59 p.m. July 11, 2009
Re: Blazer fan
Keep dreaming. The Jazz will make the playoffs next year even without Millsap. I hope you are stuck paying a backup at PF starter money for the next four years. Plus, we have the Knicks' pick next season. Here's hoping for 60 losses. I guess for Millsap it really is all about the money. He'll be in the same situation in Portland as he is here, backing up an all-star. Good luck Paul. It was nice having you on our team. I hope we kick your butt all four times we play.
Groundhogday | 6:09 p.m. July 11, 2009
Questions to ask:
1) Crunch time, can feed the ball to Millsap in the post and count on either a score or double team that opens up opportunities for someone else?
2) Crunch time, can you count on Millsap to make a key stop against a top-level big?

The evidence suggests a negative response to both questions. Millsap earns his stats by playing hard when other players are slacking. This is exactly what you want out of a key reserve or a complementary starter. But how much money can you really afford to give to a guy who can't make the key stop defensively or the key basket offensively?
SHUT UP Blazer Fans! | 6:16 p.m. July 11, 2009
I'm tired of these Oregonians coming in here shooting there mouths off! SHUT UP! The Jazz will match Millsap's offer and get something for Boozer, their not going to risk losing 2 PF's in 2010. As far as comparing the Jazz to the Blazers. The Jazz are still the better team, there deep, and the Blazers don't have a point guard; and until they do, they may get closer to the Jazz, THAT'S RIGHT I SAID "MAY GET CLOSER"!!!
George | 6:17 p.m. July 11, 2009
Prichard is stupid. Portland culd have signed Odom who is a lot better than Milsap and weakened the Lakers at the same time. Milsap's numbers will decrease playing along side Oden. With all the shooters on Portland, there will not be many plays run for Milsap. Also, Milsap's uncle is stupid.

If Boozer had not been injured, the contract never would have happened.

Let's get rid of Milsap and Boozer. Harpring will retire next year then we will have cash to find bargin players like Gooden and Wilcox. Every time Wilcox played against Utah. we didn't have anybody big enough to stop him.

After Milsap leaves, let's replace him with Josh Duncan or Koufas. Koufas will make Jazz fans forget Milsap in a hurry. In case you missed he news Koufas has already put on 20 pounds.
Chuckles55 | 6:26 p.m. July 11, 2009
Too bad Snoozer opted in. It's a shame that the Jazz couldn't have taken his "I quit" back he tendered it. Paul Millsap is a quality player who will continue to develop into an NBA star. I'll be sad to see him go.
todd from santa ana | 6:43 p.m. July 11, 2009
I was wondering if everyone's love child, Eric Maynor made a basket in the 5 games in Orlando?

Just asking..
Northstar | 6:58 p.m. July 11, 2009
The Jazz already have a couple of other PFs they can use: Okur is really a PF, IMHO. People say AK is really a PF that has been playing out of position. Kofous looked last year like he could handle either the 4 or the 5 spot.

So trade Boozer for a defensive 5, let Millsap go, and the Jazz are in great shape. Goodbye to both Millsap and Boozer.
if it really is a 32 million | 7:00 p.m. July 11, 2009
dollar contract and he is getting 10 million this year than he will only be getting paid around 6 or 7 the rest of the contract so it is only painful this year.
OPTIMISTIC | 7:01 p.m. July 11, 2009
let Milsap go, I relize he may be one of 4 people on the team with heart, get rid of the soft Boozer with no defenseive ability, clear up that cap room and sign D-Wade next year, D-Wade, D-Will, Okur,Brewer, and AK would make us great contenders
Gotta Love it | 7:07 p.m. July 11, 2009
But certainly way too much. Have a good ride in the Rose City, Paul. Best in luck to you and your family.
kanaka818 | 7:12 p.m. July 11, 2009
Worst case scenario: Jazz let Milsap go and cannot unload Boozer. Then Boozer is hurt most of the year. Duh, what do we do then?



















Miles | 7:20 p.m. July 11, 2009
Why does everyone think that Portland signed Millsap to hurt Utah? Makes no sense. If my memory serves me correctly, the Lakers, Nuggets, Houston, Spurs, Hornets all finished ahead of Portland and Utah. So is Portlands goal to finish 7th next year? That's just crazy talk. Their goal is to better themselves to beat the Lakers. Not the Jazz. Sorry Guys but we are not the big boys on the block, the Lakers and Spurs are.
Given the economy for the next | 7:22 p.m. July 11, 2009
2 or more years, Millsap is not worth more than the MLE. If you look at the FAs who have been signing for the MLE many of them are proven and better than Millsap.

Since the Jazz are in the tax anyway, would they be better off spending 10 million on any other player they could trade for? Of course.

Millsap is not the right player at PF. He was a very good back up who stepped up but that is all.

The only reason POR is offering that is because they are hoping that signing Millsap for an extra 4 million this year will save them more than 4 million in their negotiations with Aldridge.

This is a business. If the Jazz can get more for 10 million, like a decent back up PF and a shooting SG then they should.

Forget Millsap. This is a simple easy decision. Why is it so hard for the Jazz to rotate role players?

Is the problem Sloan? KOC? Miller? This problem needs to be fixed.

Good thing POR is forcing the Jazz to rethink the PF or the Jazz would be stuck with Millsap starting for years.
Jeff K | 7:34 p.m. July 11, 2009
Please let him walk and pick up D Lee before its to late!
Hurt? Millsap was never  | 7:40 p.m. July 11, 2009
the same after he got his knee hurt. Millsap is just as prone to injury as Boozer. Further, Boozer is harder to stop on offense. Millsap is a little better on defense but fouls a lot. Neither can defend tall athletic bigs. Millsap can't really play C or SF he is just a back up PF. He is a rebounding specialist.

In this economy he can be replaced for the MLE. Don't replace him, get someone more talented and versatile. Whatever you do don't match the offer.

The Jazz are already stuck with an unconventional C. They can't afford to have an unconventional PF. Unconventional means major weaknesses.

Trade Fez for Landry or someone like Landry making 3 million. You will get just as much production and upside as with Millsap at 10 million. This is a really easy decision.

The Jazz could have had Blair by moving up in the second round. He does everything Millsap does only better. How dumb does letting SA get Blair look now?

Why are the Jazz so passive and non proactive? They wait until fate forces decides for them.

The Jazz are mismanaged.
John P | 7:50 p.m. July 11, 2009
Millsap is a great backup, and might be worth about 6 mil a year, but 10.3 million and the luxury tax hit.. (does signing bonus count as salary? Does it count for lux tax hit??) Not worth it.
I sincerely hope Jazz management don't let their egos decide this. It was great having him, but let him go.
doc | 7:52 p.m. July 11, 2009
Why does it seem like Portland was desperate to sign a backup power forward (to a 10 million dollar contract no less) who is only going to play 12 to 15 minutes a game? It seems like after being rebuffed a number of free agents, the Blazer felt compelled to sign someone, anyone.

Unless the Jazz can unload Boozer, I think they will let Millsap walk, and considering the salary cap penalty for signing Millsap, who could blame them?
Bob in line | 8:06 p.m. July 11, 2009
Not like I'm an expert but it seems the Trailblazers front office really pulled off a smart move.

If you look at year two and beyond they are paying a very reasonable rate for a very solid backup powerforward: Around $6 million a year. The Jazz offered him something like $5.5 million a year.

What the Trailblazers did is put an extra $4 million up front to chase the Jazz out. Not bad of a bonus to pay a reasonable rate for a backup player of his caliber.

Also, the Jazz under Larry Miller have had a very good reputation for living within their means. Miller refused to go into debt/luxury tax. Smart on his part. I guess we all get to find out what the next Miller thinks of debt. Is it debt or an investment? I don't know. That's their job to decide, just wondering.

Smart for the Blazers. Now what are we going to do?

It seems about unanimous that Boozer is a bust. Can we burn his contract and sign him for the $5.5 million? How about $10 million but prorated for games he actually plays in?

Just dreaming.
Easy Call | 8:08 p.m. July 11, 2009
Math the offer, the sooner the better. Then, look for a matching piece from the Boozer bait, a Hamilton or Thomas.

Boozer's paycheck is the obscene piece here, not the much smaller pot for Millsap.
Phnehme | 8:11 p.m. July 11, 2009
Let him go....Keep in mind this is really a 22 million dollar contract. Unless we can completely dump Boozers contract on someone, which not only would be stupid, but highly unlikely. We will pay Milsap 10 mil plus dollar for dollar for being about 12 mil over the cap...years 2-4 are reasonable, but 22 million for a back up PF that breaks down putting up starter minutes is not worth it. I still say trade boozer for Hamilton, and go with what we have. I am willing to bet AK will relish being back at the 4. Signing Boozer was a mistake when we already had a all star PF even though a little light, he still played a lot better defense the Boozer ever did.
Henry Drummond | 8:25 p.m. July 11, 2009
Do it. You need to think more than one year. You'll drop 18 million next year and another 17 million the following year. Let's build a team of people who want to be here.
If Millsap leaves | 8:35 p.m. July 11, 2009
the stands will not be empty, the Jazz will not miss the playoffs, POR will be a little better off but not much (they are already better than the Jazz for less money), The Jazz will not have a worse record (it may be better depending on who they get).

The Jazz are not going to miss Millsap if they get a decent back up PF for the MLE (Gooden can produce Millsaps numbers, so can a lot of young cheap players). The Jazz will be better if they trade Boozer for a very good PF and a shooting SG by Jan. There is no hurry.

Millsap was not that great as a back up before or after Boozer's injury. Koufos can put up Millsap's back up numbers as the new back up!

It is time to move on. Go get a really good young tall, athletic PF. You can trade Harp for one easily. In due time trade Boozer for cap, a SG and any other needs.

In my opinion the Jazz should have got some insurance in the 2nd round by moving up. Why expect the players to play defense when the organization does not?
Anonymous | 8:37 p.m. July 11, 2009
Please let him go. I don't care about the money, it isn't mine. Please don't commit to mediocrity at the power forward position for the next 4 years. I'd rather take a risk on a draft pick than be locked into a guy who has never run the pick and roll, and doesn't appear to have the skills to run it.
Buy a Car for Millsap | 8:39 p.m. July 11, 2009
Everyone that is in the market for a car should buy from a Larry H. Miller Dealership...Luxury tax done! Keep Shoppin' Boozer...there are alot of teams that want his talent and contract for one year (about all you can trust him for).

KEEP PAUL!!!
jbra80 | 8:43 p.m. July 11, 2009
It's really not that bad of a deal, we can take that hit for a year and then the rest of his contract will be fair. Other than offense, he is better than Booz. He isn't the best defender but hustle and the willingness to actually try to compete on defense makes him valuable. People point out that he fell off after his injury and some idiot even suggested that he is as injury prone as booz. I point out that he still played 76 games and played hurt the last quarter of the season, plus the playoffs. So yeah, he probably fell off a little bit, but he still hustled the whole way. You need tough guys on your team. If Harp retires, we'll have Deron and Brewer as the only guys not scared of contact.

One other thing...I can't believe people keep saying that Koufas is a possible replacement for both Booz and Millsap. Who will his back up be? Souton or are we bringing back Collins? We'll be in the lottery for sure if that happens.
Justice | 9:14 p.m. July 11, 2009
There are so many lazy slugs in this league getting top dollar, it is nice to see a hard woker like Milsap getting a decent contract.
Plain pathetic | 9:33 p.m. July 11, 2009
It is very sad for me to see Jazz fans, apparently the ignorant fans, claim that this salary is too much for Millsap but then defend what Boozer has done.
Anonymous | 9:36 p.m. July 11, 2009
Way too much money - LET HIM GO.

Koof is adequate | 9:41 p.m. July 11, 2009
as a back up to Booz if Millsap is gone. He is also adequate as a back up to Okur. Koufos can not replace Boozer as the starting PF.

Koufos will buy some time to trade Booz for the right PF and maybe a SG. He has to develop his left hand, just gain more experience and develop range on his shot. He will need another year or two before he can start but he can play back up now.

@8:37 just made the compelling argument for losing Millsap. He can't run the pick and roll. Koufos can. Millsap can't run a number of the Boozer plays. Koufos may learn and is taller. Koufos is a better defender than both Millsap and Boozer.

However, C is the best position for Koufos. He is 280 now same as Bynum. He will beef up more.

If Fez has his act together he can back up C while Koufos backs up PF.

When Boozer goes the Jazz have to have a developing modern PF, tall athletic, quick, good shot and defender. That is not Millsap.

With Okur at C the Jazz have to have a great PF.
Ryan | 9:44 p.m. July 11, 2009
Bye Bye Paul, nice knowing you.
jason | 9:47 p.m. July 11, 2009
The Jazz will match. Millsap will prove in time he is worth every cent of the contract.
Professor | 9:56 p.m. July 11, 2009
Listen up Jazz fans - SLC is a second tier NBA town. The only way you can renovate your downtown is through contributions from the church. SLC is a nice place to visit, but let's face it, NBA stars really don't want to see any one way tickets to your town since it's a dead end for anyone who wants to be a champ!

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