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Millsap's contract causing concern
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Jazz fans, stop assuming that the 3 team deal between POR, CHI and UTA is still on, it is not!
$$$$$$$$$ BABY!!!! Whoo Whoo!!!! :D
2009-2010 western conference predictions:
1. Lakers
2. Spurs
3. Trail Blazers
4. Nuggets
5. Mavericks
6. Hornets
7. Rockets
8. Suns
9. Jazz
10. Warriors
11. Clippers
12. Thunder
13. Grizzlies
14. Timberwolves
15. Kings
Take your pick MILLSAP OR LOTTERY!
LOOZER IS TERRIBLE
AJ SOFT
CJ TERRIBLE
BREWER CANT SHOOT
WE NEED MILLSAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be helpful DMN if you would help us fans understand how signing bonus money counts against the salary cap.
Paul's spokespeople can get off their high horses about how the Jazz under-valued Paul and how Portland really understood. That fact is that Paul was Portland's second (at best) choice after Hedo Turkolu. Had Hedo signed with Portland, Paul may not have such a lucrative offer.
As a fan, I love Paul. He's everything I desire in an NBA player: Tough, Hard Working, Unassuming, Productive. As a business owner, it will be interesting to see how the Jazz respond. Paul is certainly worth 6-7M per year long before AK is worth 16-17M per year or Boozer worth 12M.
I would still try and trade Boozer for Rip Hamilton. Salaries are comparable.
Certainly the Jazz can't complain about a front loaded contract. They did it to Cleveland to get Carlos.
Keep dreaming. The Jazz will make the playoffs next year even without Millsap. I hope you are stuck paying a backup at PF starter money for the next four years. Plus, we have the Knicks' pick next season. Here's hoping for 60 losses. I guess for Millsap it really is all about the money. He'll be in the same situation in Portland as he is here, backing up an all-star. Good luck Paul. It was nice having you on our team. I hope we kick your butt all four times we play.
1) Crunch time, can feed the ball to Millsap in the post and count on either a score or double team that opens up opportunities for someone else?
2) Crunch time, can you count on Millsap to make a key stop against a top-level big?
The evidence suggests a negative response to both questions. Millsap earns his stats by playing hard when other players are slacking. This is exactly what you want out of a key reserve or a complementary starter. But how much money can you really afford to give to a guy who can't make the key stop defensively or the key basket offensively?
If Boozer had not been injured, the contract never would have happened.
Let's get rid of Milsap and Boozer. Harpring will retire next year then we will have cash to find bargin players like Gooden and Wilcox. Every time Wilcox played against Utah. we didn't have anybody big enough to stop him.
After Milsap leaves, let's replace him with Josh Duncan or Koufas. Koufas will make Jazz fans forget Milsap in a hurry. In case you missed he news Koufas has already put on 20 pounds.
Just asking..
So trade Boozer for a defensive 5, let Millsap go, and the Jazz are in great shape. Goodbye to both Millsap and Boozer.
Since the Jazz are in the tax anyway, would they be better off spending 10 million on any other player they could trade for? Of course.
Millsap is not the right player at PF. He was a very good back up who stepped up but that is all.
The only reason POR is offering that is because they are hoping that signing Millsap for an extra 4 million this year will save them more than 4 million in their negotiations with Aldridge.
This is a business. If the Jazz can get more for 10 million, like a decent back up PF and a shooting SG then they should.
Forget Millsap. This is a simple easy decision. Why is it so hard for the Jazz to rotate role players?
Is the problem Sloan? KOC? Miller? This problem needs to be fixed.
Good thing POR is forcing the Jazz to rethink the PF or the Jazz would be stuck with Millsap starting for years.
In this economy he can be replaced for the MLE. Don't replace him, get someone more talented and versatile. Whatever you do don't match the offer.
The Jazz are already stuck with an unconventional C. They can't afford to have an unconventional PF. Unconventional means major weaknesses.
Trade Fez for Landry or someone like Landry making 3 million. You will get just as much production and upside as with Millsap at 10 million. This is a really easy decision.
The Jazz could have had Blair by moving up in the second round. He does everything Millsap does only better. How dumb does letting SA get Blair look now?
Why are the Jazz so passive and non proactive? They wait until fate forces decides for them.
The Jazz are mismanaged.
I sincerely hope Jazz management don't let their egos decide this. It was great having him, but let him go.
Unless the Jazz can unload Boozer, I think they will let Millsap walk, and considering the salary cap penalty for signing Millsap, who could blame them?
If you look at year two and beyond they are paying a very reasonable rate for a very solid backup powerforward: Around $6 million a year. The Jazz offered him something like $5.5 million a year.
What the Trailblazers did is put an extra $4 million up front to chase the Jazz out. Not bad of a bonus to pay a reasonable rate for a backup player of his caliber.
Also, the Jazz under Larry Miller have had a very good reputation for living within their means. Miller refused to go into debt/luxury tax. Smart on his part. I guess we all get to find out what the next Miller thinks of debt. Is it debt or an investment? I don't know. That's their job to decide, just wondering.
Smart for the Blazers. Now what are we going to do?
It seems about unanimous that Boozer is a bust. Can we burn his contract and sign him for the $5.5 million? How about $10 million but prorated for games he actually plays in?
Just dreaming.
Boozer's paycheck is the obscene piece here, not the much smaller pot for Millsap.
The Jazz are not going to miss Millsap if they get a decent back up PF for the MLE (Gooden can produce Millsaps numbers, so can a lot of young cheap players). The Jazz will be better if they trade Boozer for a very good PF and a shooting SG by Jan. There is no hurry.
Millsap was not that great as a back up before or after Boozer's injury. Koufos can put up Millsap's back up numbers as the new back up!
It is time to move on. Go get a really good young tall, athletic PF. You can trade Harp for one easily. In due time trade Boozer for cap, a SG and any other needs.
In my opinion the Jazz should have got some insurance in the 2nd round by moving up. Why expect the players to play defense when the organization does not?
KEEP PAUL!!!
One other thing...I can't believe people keep saying that Koufas is a possible replacement for both Booz and Millsap. Who will his back up be? Souton or are we bringing back Collins? We'll be in the lottery for sure if that happens.
Koufos will buy some time to trade Booz for the right PF and maybe a SG. He has to develop his left hand, just gain more experience and develop range on his shot. He will need another year or two before he can start but he can play back up now.
@8:37 just made the compelling argument for losing Millsap. He can't run the pick and roll. Koufos can. Millsap can't run a number of the Boozer plays. Koufos may learn and is taller. Koufos is a better defender than both Millsap and Boozer.
However, C is the best position for Koufos. He is 280 now same as Bynum. He will beef up more.
If Fez has his act together he can back up C while Koufos backs up PF.
When Boozer goes the Jazz have to have a developing modern PF, tall athletic, quick, good shot and defender. That is not Millsap.
With Okur at C the Jazz have to have a great PF.
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