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Utah Jazz finances not quite so bleak

utah needs okur they also need to play kosta kufas next year he is to good for the d league i wish boozer would get out of utah the jazz wanted him to go but no one wanted anything to do with him. no teams want to pay the luxery tax but they have to tokeep milsapp aka the future power forward of the jazz . boozer has one more year and hes out of here. no more injurys and poor atitude in the locker room. peace out booz. jaz pay milsapp asap

NY all of the lux tax payers were contenders.

There is no strong correlation between busting the cap and being a contender. Many teams are unwise in cap management.

Some teams tend to use extra money as a way to compete.

It's not necessary for Utah to over pay it's role players. It is necessary for Utah to get sufficient overall talent.

It is encouraging to see that Greg is willing to flirt with the luxury tax. He seems committed to winning. There are several bad practices that need changing before Utah can move forward and compete.

SA offers the best model. They give only Duncan a max salary. Utah needs to get it's franchise players in place and then rotate other players if they can be replaced by better.

I am not sure who has caused the fear of change in this organization but it tends to be very mortibund.

There are reasons why players do not play defense or on the road. When was the last time a veteran got replaced for playing poor defense? The veterans know if you stay out of Jerry's dog house you will "get a raise" (Boozer).

because there corporate culture is soft. That softness permeates down to the players.

The Jazz made themselves vulnerable to POR. It is poor cap management. Resigning Okur may also be.

The Jazz is a great place to work for Veterans. It is like a frat. Younger player get harassed but once a Vet there life time employment if you don't tick off Sloan.

The key core values seem to be work (when younger) and loyalty. Don't disagree with Sloan.

The problems are higher than Sloan. Winning teams reward winning. Utah rewards work as a rookie and seniority.

It is not necessary to over pay now the next 2 years. The Jazz are spendaholics on individual players but cap total team salary.

They would have to change the corporate culture to a performance based culture. Collins is probably the perfect example of results of the Jazz culture. He had limited talent but had job security.

That culture tends to infect veteran Jazz players with more talent.

The have to have more talent to win, they need better game management and a lot better cap and player management.

Until they get a defense they will not contend.

Instead of wasting that money.... that is exactly what Lamar Odom is looking for...this is a message from heaven..ignore it at your peril Jazz

recently is a good example of cap management.

Talks with Aldridge have snagged. Eventhough he is a great player they are willing to let him go next year and replace him with the cheaper Millsap.

POR is a very talented team which is under the cap because they are aggressive astute traders. You perform at POR or you are gone. Even if you perform you are gone if there is a better value available.

SA is another example of a performance culture. OKC is developing a performance culture.

The Jazz on the other hand run a rest home for vets and a frat for everyone who is not a rookie or who does not give Sloan grief. Stick, stay, get your pay (raise).

Change the corporate culture. Actually manage instead of letting Sloan run everything and things will get better.

get some players and cut the BS

To imply that seniority is any substitute for effort under Jerry Sloan is unsubstantiated and ludicrous. Let's look at which players had problems with him: Ostertag? His "seniority" certainly didn't buy him any leeway when it came to work ethic. Giricek? And Kirilenko- an overpaid prima donna whose psyche is as delicate as Carlos Boozer's health.

Boozer is injury prone and possibly a locker room cancer, Kirilenko's contract was a terrible mistake, and the CJ Miles experiment didn't pan out. They've got to rectify those situations and bring in some defensive talent if they want a real playoff run.

Part of the Jazz culture is the Sloan system. The system is both good and bad. It consistently provides enough regular season wins to make the playoffs.

On the other hand,in the last 20 years, how many teams have won a championship with the Sloan system?

It is not just Sloan, the very system itself has limitations that prevent championships. How many rings could he have had if he used a different system?

The system requires years to learn well. It is costly and inhibits changing role players who know the system, which causes over payment. It discourages making trades for better athletes because they don't know the system.

The system is optimized by types of players who have trouble defending modern "run and gun" and "inside out" offenses.

The Jazz will probably never win a championship until (after Sloan retires)the system is replaced and the corporate practices that are encouraged by the system are ended.

Large entities are managed mainly by corporate culture. The Jazz in their current form like alcoholics are not able to change enough, that would require a reform of the culture.

Perennial playoff status is preferred over necessary change (and winning).

how profitable would your dealerships be if you allowed your sales managers veto power over your general managers' decisions?

Effective control has rested in Coach Sloan for too many years. His informal power greatly exceeds his formal position power to the detriment of the team.

You know enough about management to know there are problems in your organizational structure. You have the power to change that. If you are serious about winning you will need to make organizational changes not just change out players or people in positions. You are going to have to evaluate the function of each position and how it relates to every other position.

The environment is shifting and that require new strategies. New strategies require a different structure to be effective.

A few of the other owners are some of the best business minds in the world. They understand management, culture, structure, adapting to changes in the environment and being proactive to the point of writing the rules of the industry in their favor for the next decade.

The Jazz are 20 years behind and can't figure out why they can't win or why they get mugged by POR.

Jerry's system doesn't win championships. Phil's triangle Offense does. 10 to 0.

Miles, the problem is people complain here but when i ask for this same emotion to go to the front office I am ignored

AGAIN IT IS OBVIOUS LET ME MAKE THIS VERY VERY CLEAR

1) JAZZ ORGANIZATION CARES ABOUT THE 14K SEASON SEATS

2) THEY WILL KEEP POPULAR GUYS (SEE MILLSAP)

3) THEY CARE ABOUT IMAGE, ENTERTAINMENT AND LITTLE MAINTENANCE

4) LET SLOAN RUN EVERYTHING

they are not serious about winning titles.

no coach in pro sports now except for the Broncos punk coach has the power Jer and his "holics

blame small market

NO SIGN OKUR TO AN EXTENSION WITH STILL NO CENTER

IF NEW ORLEANS MAKES A MOVE BEFORE FALL THE JAZZ WILL LIKELY BE BATTLING PHOENIX AND THE CLOPPERS FOR THE LAST PLAYOFF SPOT