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Utah Jazz: Trade rumors have Jazz discussing Boozer to Bulls
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Chadders | 5:03 p.m. July 9, 2009
DO IT!!! Thomas is a genetic freak. He is a huge upgrade defensively and would
produce here. His offense is up and down but he is only going into his 4th year.
If he puts it all together watch out. The upside on this kid is unreal.
Matthalen | 5:04 p.m. July 9, 2009
Great, trade one malcontent for another. Sloan will Kill Thomas...
Miles | 5:04 p.m. July 9, 2009
If that is all we get for Boozer, keep him and let him walk at the end of the
season. Thomas has been a complete disappointment since leaving college early.
Athletic but not a well rounded basketball player. I hope Kevin comes to his
senses soon.
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Another rumor? | 5:07 p.m. July 9, 2009
Hey I want the truth. The media never seems to have any of it. Just more rumors.
Cowboy Joe | 5:12 p.m. July 9, 2009
Hey Miles here is the trade. The Jazz send Boozer for Thomas and cap space. I
think the Jazz can find a better trade. Do a block buster not a sleeper KOC
Miles | 5:13 p.m. July 9, 2009
It would be safe to say that the Jazz organization is tired of Boozer's
dance. I would appear that he will never put on a Jazz uniform again. It
scares me that if Boozer is gone that we will way overpay Millsap to keep him
around.
STEVE-O | 5:20 p.m. July 9, 2009
The Jazz would only do this to get under the cap. I guess you do what you gotta
do, but I think they could do better than this. Just glad to know they're
gonna dump Boozer. I just don't like watching the guy play basketball, or
talk afterwards.
jazzman4evr | 5:22 p.m. July 9, 2009
Why would the jazz make a trade that would benefit a division rival? Why
don't we send boozer to chicago for heinrich and someone other than thomas
and leave portland out of the equation? Heinrich would be a much needed back up
pg way better than price and the rook.
Dude | 5:23 p.m. July 9, 2009
Boozer will bring a lot to the Jazz this season if he stays. Fans need to let
things go. If Boozer stays this season and is gone after the season, then things
would probably work out better.
Brandon | 5:23 p.m. July 9, 2009
At least Thomas plays defense.
no | 5:25 p.m. July 9, 2009
If the jazz trade boozer away and we keep paul we better be in the mix of
trading Ak for a scorer.. if we lose booz then i dont know who will do the
scoring? okur and D will cant do it all? come on jazz
Hinrich to POR and Booz | 5:28 p.m. July 9, 2009
makes sense for them. What is in this for the Jazz? Ty Thomas only makes 4+
mill. What else are the Jazz getting? Thomas is 6'9", soft, slight, so
so on defense and 11/7 or less. Do the Jazz really want him all that bad? If so
why?
Lets Make A Deal | 5:28 p.m. July 9, 2009
A.K., Booze & Miles to Chicago for Miller, Hindrich, & Thomas. Throw
Maynor & Suton in on the deal & or Price. Sign & trade Milsap to
Portland, Portland sends Outlaw to Sacramento, who sends Nocioni to Utah.
sending Maynor, Suton, Price and Harprings expiring contract in to make the deal
go.
Chadders | 5:28 p.m. July 9, 2009
Are you serious Miles? Thomas is not a bust at all. He is up and down but with
Thomas and AK it would be very, very difficult for anyone to score in the paint
(our biggest weakness). He has a very, very high upside and still preforms
decently. Our team athleticism would go waaaaay up with Thomas on the team.
Thomas | 5:30 p.m. July 9, 2009
Well if this is true the Blazers sure get a great deal. Why is it that Portland
doesn't have to give up anyone? I don't like the trade for the reasons
that we aren't getting enough back. Tyrus Thomas is an athletic freak but
he is a tweener and doesn't have a defined position. Should have traded AK
for T-Mac...
It makes more sense | 5:34 p.m. July 9, 2009
to resolve Millsap's contract first, one way or the other.
Is this a smoke screen by Prichard? or is the rumor about Millsap a smoke screen? POR wants Hinrich. They don't really need Millsap.
Boozer is worth a lot more than Thomas and cap space. We need the PF of the future out of this trade and that is probably not Thomas.
Will the Jazz get a 8+ Mill credit like DEN did on Camby? They can use that credit to trade for anyone they want since it came from the Clips who were under the cap. Since this is a 3 way would the Jazz get a credit they could use to get any player they want from any team?
Is this a smoke screen by Prichard? or is the rumor about Millsap a smoke screen? POR wants Hinrich. They don't really need Millsap.
Boozer is worth a lot more than Thomas and cap space. We need the PF of the future out of this trade and that is probably not Thomas.
Will the Jazz get a 8+ Mill credit like DEN did on Camby? They can use that credit to trade for anyone they want since it came from the Clips who were under the cap. Since this is a 3 way would the Jazz get a credit they could use to get any player they want from any team?
STEVE-O | 5:36 p.m. July 9, 2009
Some of you are missing the point! Yes... the Jazz only get Thomas and his
measly $5 Million contract. They also avoid the luxury tax. They are just
hoping to dumping salary knowing that it's not the best deal in the world.
Cowboy Joe | 5:39 p.m. July 9, 2009
Hey Thomas Portland is giving up cap space for the Jazz. So another way to think
about it is Portland is giving the Jazz an over priced Paul Millsap. Slown will
put Thomas in the Dog POUnd in the first Month guaranteed.
The Upsides ... | 5:39 p.m. July 9, 2009
are to get the CANCER (Boozer) out of the locker room; make cap space to keep
Millsap; and to get a defensive minded player.
Awesome | 5:41 p.m. July 9, 2009
Portland would need to give up another player to the Jazz to make this work. It
would probably end up being Boozer to the Bulls, Heinrich to the Blazers and
Thomas and either Blake or Outlaw to Utah. In order to make the money work. I
love this trade. Get rid of Boozer, save cap space, and get us one of the
things we need, an athletic shotblocker. The Jazz are doing this mainly for cap
space so that we can re-sign Milsap. Otherwise Portland may sign him to a
contract we can't match.
Portland Gives UP | 5:44 p.m. July 9, 2009
What Portland has to give up is a player and their cap space. They are
essentially giving the Jazz a player (not yet named) and signing Kirk Heinrich.
This takes their cap space so they cannot sign Milsap.
STEVE-O | 5:51 p.m. July 9, 2009
And if the Jazz don't retain Millsap, this trade allows them some money to
go get Drew Gooden or maybe even the great white hope from New York.
todd from santa ana | 5:53 p.m. July 9, 2009
i would like to get more for Snoozie...However if this brings chemistry think
about Thomas size defense it would help the surrounding players, could help
Okur. We have enough offense. I like it if that means giving up salary do
it..Yes I would like more....But O Connor still has to not get "wet
feet"
nick | 5:55 p.m. July 9, 2009
jazz get:
john salmons
travis outlaw
tyrus thomas
nicholas batum
bulls get:
miles
boozer
blazers get:
steve blake
1st round pick
it works, what you think, we get more athletic, better shooters, better defender, and save money in long run. then we get rid of kirilenko just for a terrible expiring contract along with korver and harpring and we have much better small forwards and salmons start at 2 and brewer w/ firepower off the bench
john salmons
travis outlaw
tyrus thomas
nicholas batum
bulls get:
miles
boozer
blazers get:
steve blake
1st round pick
it works, what you think, we get more athletic, better shooters, better defender, and save money in long run. then we get rid of kirilenko just for a terrible expiring contract along with korver and harpring and we have much better small forwards and salmons start at 2 and brewer w/ firepower off the bench
What I'd like to see! | 5:56 p.m. July 9, 2009
Portland gets Hinrich from Chicago and Fesenko from Utah.
Chicago gets Boozer from Utah and Steve Blake from Portland.
Utah gets Tyrus Thomas from Chicago and Joel Pryzbilla from Portland.
Both Portland and Chicago get the players they want. We get rid of a locker room cancer in Boozer and a goofball in Fesenko. We add athleticism in Thomas and toughness and shot blocking in Pryzbilla.
Kevin O'Conner needs to snap this trade up before Boozer is on the IL again with a hangnail.
Chicago gets Boozer from Utah and Steve Blake from Portland.
Utah gets Tyrus Thomas from Chicago and Joel Pryzbilla from Portland.
Both Portland and Chicago get the players they want. We get rid of a locker room cancer in Boozer and a goofball in Fesenko. We add athleticism in Thomas and toughness and shot blocking in Pryzbilla.
Kevin O'Conner needs to snap this trade up before Boozer is on the IL again with a hangnail.
Frank | 5:56 p.m. July 9, 2009
What I like about the potential trade is you'd have to assume Portland will
give something up - we just don't know who it is yet. And I'd also
have to assume that the fourth player would go to us - after all, Chicago is
already getting the best and most expensive player of the deal.
If so, it might be someone like Martell Webster - another young guy with upside with solid (and improving) defensive skills who can create his own shot. Rudy Fernandez might be a bit more enticing, but that's probably not going to happen. Still, a potential Thomas/Webster combo - plus the flexibility to re-sign Millsap - is a decent haul for a player who we were going to lose next summer anyway.
If so, it might be someone like Martell Webster - another young guy with upside with solid (and improving) defensive skills who can create his own shot. Rudy Fernandez might be a bit more enticing, but that's probably not going to happen. Still, a potential Thomas/Webster combo - plus the flexibility to re-sign Millsap - is a decent haul for a player who we were going to lose next summer anyway.
todd from santa ana | 5:56 p.m. July 9, 2009
Blake will give the jazz another needed 3 point threat, therefore helping Korver
and Okur
The truth is... | 5:57 p.m. July 9, 2009
The Jazz need a defensive presence and they need to get rid of Carlos Boozer and
his excessive price tag and his fragile body.
Those of you who think the Jazz will not be able to score with out Boozer- think back to the half of last season C-Booz missed. Jazz still ranked near the top of the NBA in scoring.
Reason for this is Millsap picked up the slack.
Reason for this trade is to bring Thomas, a good defensive, shot blocker to the team and to offer the Blazers Heinrich, who they really want. This will hopefully turn them away from Millsap and without anymore suiters the Jazz are going to get Millsap back for a cheaper price tag then his rediculous uncle/agent is dreaming up.
Those of you who think the Jazz will not be able to score with out Boozer- think back to the half of last season C-Booz missed. Jazz still ranked near the top of the NBA in scoring.
Reason for this is Millsap picked up the slack.
Reason for this trade is to bring Thomas, a good defensive, shot blocker to the team and to offer the Blazers Heinrich, who they really want. This will hopefully turn them away from Millsap and without anymore suiters the Jazz are going to get Millsap back for a cheaper price tag then his rediculous uncle/agent is dreaming up.
yes!!! | 5:58 p.m. July 9, 2009
THis is a great move. Thomas is great at defense and Millsap needs more playing
time. Last season, the Jazz were better when Boozer was riding the pine and
Millsap was starting!!
Anonymous | 6:02 p.m. July 9, 2009
JAZZ NEED TO MOVE BOOZER, BECAUSE HE WILL WALK AT SEASON'S END AND THEY
NEED TO RESIGN MILLSAP WHO AS A STARTER AVERAGED 16/10. ALSO MILLSAP IS NOT
INJURY PRONE AND WILL PLAY DEFENSE. JAZZ NEED TO SHAKE UP THINGS, BECAUSE THEY
WONT BEET THE LAKERS OR SPURS BRINGING BACK THE SAME TEAM. ATLEAST WITH TYRUS
THEY GET LONGER AND MORE ATHLETIC, SOMETHING THEY HAVE STRUGGLES WITH WHEN
PLAYING THE LAKERS.
A person that want defense | 6:05 p.m. July 9, 2009
Carlos Boozer is a scorer with no low post defense. the Jazz will find a way to
score. Ronnie brewer is getting better. I think what we need is defense. Tyrus
Thomas is extremely active and can block shot.
PREEKEY | 6:13 p.m. July 9, 2009
Boozer needs to pack his bags and go stink up another team. He is by far one of
the softest defenders for his position in the league. tyrus thomas would be a
great asset to the Jazz due to his ability to block multiple shots per game and
his uptempo play would ignite Williams and this season would be the one to watch
if the trade went through. this way we could keep Millsap and have some
flexibility to maybe work in the free agent market to pick up some key role
players to support our beloved D-Will.
COME ON JAZZ MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND RELIEVE EVERY JAZZ FAN OF THE WOES OF HAVING BOOZER. ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT NEEDS TO GOOGLE THE POLL ESPN DID ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE WERE HAPPY BOOZER OPTED IN HIS LAST YEAR IN UTAH. OVER 70% WERE UNHAPPY AND WNATED HIM GONE. KEVIN O'CONNOR MAKE IT HAPPEN AND DO LHM PROUD!!!!!!!!!!!
COME ON JAZZ MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND RELIEVE EVERY JAZZ FAN OF THE WOES OF HAVING BOOZER. ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT NEEDS TO GOOGLE THE POLL ESPN DID ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE WERE HAPPY BOOZER OPTED IN HIS LAST YEAR IN UTAH. OVER 70% WERE UNHAPPY AND WNATED HIM GONE. KEVIN O'CONNOR MAKE IT HAPPEN AND DO LHM PROUD!!!!!!!!!!!
PREEKEY | 6:17 p.m. July 9, 2009
PS THOMAS AVERAGED ABOUT 20 POINTS PER GAME AND JUST UNDER 10 REBOUNDS AT THE
LAST HALF OF THE SEASON! DO THE DEALAND MAKE IT HAPPEN KEVIN O'CONNOR! GREG
DO YOUR DAD PROUD AND GET SOME EXCITEMENT AND HARD WORKING PLAYERS THAT ACTUALLY
WANT TO PLAY LIKE THOMAS. LET BOOZER BE A BABY AND CONTINUE TO BE A DISHONEST
PERSON.
james | 6:18 p.m. July 9, 2009
Tyrus Thomas is a freak athlete...the area above the shoulders is his biggest
weakness. He has a low basketball IQ and according to Chicago writer Sam Smith,
has one of the worst dispositions of any young athlete he has covered.
Thomas is long, quick, a good jumper but is relatively weak (Milsap handled him like a ragdoll in their matchups and will struggle is Sloan's system.
Kirk Hinrich is the player the Jazz covet..and if Chicago really wants Boozer, trade Booze for Thomas and Hinrich.
A trade I would like is Boozer, CJ for James johnson, Kirk Hinrich and Thomas..
Thomas is long, quick, a good jumper but is relatively weak (Milsap handled him like a ragdoll in their matchups and will struggle is Sloan's system.
Kirk Hinrich is the player the Jazz covet..and if Chicago really wants Boozer, trade Booze for Thomas and Hinrich.
A trade I would like is Boozer, CJ for James johnson, Kirk Hinrich and Thomas..
Anonymous | 6:21 p.m. July 9, 2009
this is nice to hear, at least we know that the Jazz are really trying their
best to trade Boozer, I just hope that the teams involved will be cooperative so
this trade will come to reality
Virginia Jazz Fan | 6:24 p.m. July 9, 2009
Why doesn't the Deseret News do any original reporting on this? It's
like they can't do anything except read ESPN.com and tell us what it says.
Hey, I know how to read ESPN.com - the local paper should add some value.
please... | 6:28 p.m. July 9, 2009
Make it happen! I love the trade
Not Hans | 6:28 p.m. July 9, 2009
John and Hans had this story all morning long on 1280 The Zone from 6-10 AM,
thanks for "breaking" the story ESPN.....
Ron Burgundy | 6:31 p.m. July 9, 2009
THIS IS IT !!! This deal will surely help the Jazz beat the Lakers in the years
to come.
Yeah... Riiigghhttt.
Jazz fans are always good for a laugh.
Yeah... Riiigghhttt.
Jazz fans are always good for a laugh.
GoodGuyGary | 6:32 p.m. July 9, 2009
No matter what, boozer will only be here for another year the most.
Thomas is not consistent, but his numbers are not bad last season: 10.8 pt, 6.4 reb, 1.9 blks per game for 27 min a game when he is not the major player in the Bulls team. And he was making only 3.7M last year. Boozer: 16.2 pt, 10.4 reb, 0.19 nlks (ouch) per game with 32 min and making 12M this year. Boozer played 37 games and Thomas played 79 games last season.
If I am KOC, I will take this deal for sure. Remember, with the salary cap problems and the risk of Boozer just sit for his last season in Utah, it will be a good deal for Jazz. I am GoodGuyGary, and I approve this deal.
Thomas is not consistent, but his numbers are not bad last season: 10.8 pt, 6.4 reb, 1.9 blks per game for 27 min a game when he is not the major player in the Bulls team. And he was making only 3.7M last year. Boozer: 16.2 pt, 10.4 reb, 0.19 nlks (ouch) per game with 32 min and making 12M this year. Boozer played 37 games and Thomas played 79 games last season.
If I am KOC, I will take this deal for sure. Remember, with the salary cap problems and the risk of Boozer just sit for his last season in Utah, it will be a good deal for Jazz. I am GoodGuyGary, and I approve this deal.
Hoopsworld is basically | 6:36 p.m. July 9, 2009
saying this deal is mostly smoke. It does not make much sense based on the
current details. Boozer is worth a lot more than this. Utah is slow and
conservative but they are not dumb like MEM.
POR is not parting with Blake.
The Jazz are not desperate for cap space. You have been brain washed by years of L Miller. Greg can handle the lux to get the right team in place. He wants to win.
Don't give resources away just to get under the tax. The Jazz can afford and have to afford to get the right players.
Stop worrying about the cap. They have months to fix the cap.
Make a trade when you can get the right deal for the right players. You don't have to do a deal for the sake of a deal.
DAL is still dealing and doing a great job of it. They will get an SG next.
They will rival SA when done.
Utah has to be very careful here or they will make trades and be not better off.
POR is not parting with Blake.
The Jazz are not desperate for cap space. You have been brain washed by years of L Miller. Greg can handle the lux to get the right team in place. He wants to win.
Don't give resources away just to get under the tax. The Jazz can afford and have to afford to get the right players.
Stop worrying about the cap. They have months to fix the cap.
Make a trade when you can get the right deal for the right players. You don't have to do a deal for the sake of a deal.
DAL is still dealing and doing a great job of it. They will get an SG next.
They will rival SA when done.
Utah has to be very careful here or they will make trades and be not better off.
JOHNNY | 6:37 p.m. July 9, 2009
let's make a deal chicago and portalnd. soounds almost too good to be true.
i forsee this not going through. the bulls wont part with thomas . del negro
loves him and sees the potential that he has. the bulls will be getting the
shaft in taking boozer. he is a waste of space and is only concerned with
scoring and being a baby with his papercut injuries. i see boozer's career
headed downhill in 2 to 3 years anyway. he is a offspring of shawn marion,
without the defense and skills. so basically his mentality is that of a little
leaguer or worse.
Cowboy Joe | 6:37 p.m. July 9, 2009
By doing this trade the Jazz are helping the Trailblazers the Most. Chicago and
Portland are the winners in this trade. For the last time Portland is not giving
up anything, but cap space for the Jazz. Another way to think about it is the
Jazz are trading Boozer for THOMAS AND MILLSAP TWO UNDER SIZED POWER FORWARDS.
Hold out for something better
The Human Eraser!!! | 6:43 p.m. July 9, 2009
Thomas is great shot blocker. I love his intensity and determination in every
game.I hope that other player will involve in the trade is Rudy Fernandez. He is
a great shooter and can be threat to other teams.
Chadders | 7:07 p.m. July 9, 2009
todd has the right idea, we trade Boozer to Chicago, Chicago gives Portland
Hinrich and us Tyrus Thomas, and Portland gives us Steve Blake. According to the
ESPN trade machine that would help us win 2 more wins and the Blazers would lose
5 more. I would be ok with anything that doesn't make us lose more games
and doesn't make POR better. And if it helps us win more and POR lose more
we are set.
NATE-O | 7:10 p.m. July 9, 2009
honestly, i don't give a rats about who the jazz get in return. just dump
the guy. boozer is a dweeb. however, he'll probably have his best season
next year, seeing as how its a contract year for him and all.
Jim Naisium | 7:14 p.m. July 9, 2009
Trade CJ Miles and Boozer to Toronto for Chris Bosh. Then trade Okur to the
Hornets for Tyson Chandler. Those would be two great trades for the Jazz,
provided the Raptors and Hornets would be willing to deal. Boozer is soft on D,
Bosh plays both ends of the floor. Okur is another soft, offensive minded
player. The Jazz don't need a center who hangs out at the 3 point line.
They need a defensive minded center who will guard the paint area and can also
put the ball in the basket if called upon. Chandler would fill the need.
Anonymous | 7:18 p.m. July 9, 2009
I hope I'm wrong, but I have this sinking feeling that a commitment to
Millsap is a commitment to cost effective mediocrity, for the foreseeable
future. Not a comment on Millsap, who is a good player, but on the financial
decision-making process. Are they committing to a cheap "competitive"
team? It sure looks like it.
page | 7:21 p.m. July 9, 2009
tell me if i am wrong idk for sure but if you are over the salary cap then you
have to take that much in money back. so we would have to take 12.7 back in
contracts some way so we would not get relief now. i say go for can't stand
loser
BLAZER FAN | 7:27 p.m. July 9, 2009
You all are missing the point, what Portland is giving up is their ability to go
after Millsap. Oh, I forgot and a challenge from the Jazz on the court!
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