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Jazz payroll is $3.1 million over tax

POR is supposed to be | 12:29 a.m. July 9, 2009

making a poison offer on Millsap. In which case the salary cap is not that much of a problem.

Add a couple of cheap minimum salary players. If one of them is an athletic taller PF that would be nice.

Sometime this year a trade will need to be made for a PF who will be the starter of the future. That trade will probably get the Jazz under the cap.

If necessary Koufos can play back PF and Fez can play back up C until the Jazz reload via trades.

Anonymous | 12:59 a.m. July 9, 2009

D-Will deserves his payroll, he should be happy with that, I just hoped he wont turned into an AK attitude in the future.. we should be proud we have D-Will on our team

Too Much Cash | 1:18 a.m. July 9, 2009

Williams is good, but not worth that amount. These amounts are ridiculous. They are ruining the game. It is sickening that individuals have 8 digit yearly salaries to play basketball, while the rest of us take an economic paycut and have a tough time paying for medical insurance for our families. The corrupt BCS, the doped-up baseballers, and the money grubbing NBA players and owners all make it tough to want to continue being a sports fan.

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IdahoJazzFan | 7:01 a.m. July 9, 2009

WOW!!!!!!!!!!

That kind of money to play a game!

Millsap can be replaced | 8:01 a.m. July 9, 2009

and the luxury tax will not hurt Utah if they have to pay it for a year. However, they will probably get under it by the deadline.

Utah is making the team of the future this year and it is important that they let the right players go and get the right players back at the right price.

We know this team is not good enough to compete with the elite teams as it is defensively challenged. It can't win until it gets players who will play defense. It probably can't win until it gets more athletic players and better outside shooters at more positions. It is also weak on rebounding.

Continuity is the worst thing that could happen.

KOC and Sloan have a bias toward not changing. They play it safe all of the time and that is guaranteed to create a loser in this environment.

Management and philosophy has to change or the Jazz are going nowhere. Now is the time to make much needed changes.

re to much cash | 8:47 a.m. July 9, 2009

Absolutly right!
Completely beyond control yes.
All you AK busters are nuts?
Look at what he has done for the team while starting and then coming off the bench then starting then coming off the bench, WHICH MOST NBA MORONS WOULD DO AS FAST AS THEY WOULD FLY TO THE MOON.
WE WIN WHEN AK PLAYS WELL AND WE DONT WHEN HE DOESN'T,PERIOD!
TRADE HIM AND WE ARE BACK TO 40 WINS A YEAR.
AND BY THE WAY THE JAZZ AND OCONNER KNOW IT!
KEEP HIM AND WILLIAMS WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH CONTRACTS.
THE JAZZ ARE SMART AND SAVIE ORGANIZATION AND ALL OF YOU WITH YOUR BASKETBALL IQ'S OF 3 OR 4 ARE UP IN THE NIGHT.
THAT IS TWO GUYS YOU CAN BUILD A TEAM AROUND AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
DO YOU REALLY THINK IF JERRY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT HE WOULD TRADE HIS BEST ALL AROUBD PLAYER?
NO CHANCE!

akk | 9:29 a.m. July 9, 2009

D-Will deserves that money... he will continue to get better... he is a stud. There is no hurry in making a move. He has until next year to shed some money. I wish we could trade Boozer or Kirlinko for Maggette and Turiaf.

Duh!! | 9:58 a.m. July 9, 2009

How many times must it be said?

SALARY CAP LESSON!!

You can not just trade away salary without taking it in return. League rules stipulate you must take at least 75% of the value of the contract you are trading.

Translation:

Unless you plan to trade several of our players for other players with EXACTLY 75% of the value of their contract...there is no way the jazz are getting under the cap.

Example:

Boozer @ 12.7 million....one of our biggest salaries besides AK.

Hypothetically you have to find a player with a contract that is exactly a 9.5 million contract to get the absolute maximum salary dumping affect. Make the Booz trade and you have only reduced your salary by 3 million.

We have not signed Millsap or our 3rd PG yet.

As the article states we will be 9 million+ over if we sign Millsap to a conservative deal.

Much easier said than done.

The Jazz WILL be paying luxury tax--it is just a matter of how much.

The other obvious factor is what kind of players/team do you have left after "stepping down" in value for all these trades?

Diddly and Squat!

todd from santa ana | 10:07 a.m. July 9, 2009

re: re too much cash

"sloanaholic"

I love this "championship squad"

Unless.......Sloanie and His holicsie allow get the ball become Loyola Marymount get off a shot in 6-8 seconds.....

At least go down entertaining maybe we win 140-138

todd to above | 10:13 a.m. July 9, 2009

WELL WHOSE FAULT IS THAT

DUH AND DOYYYY

What problem? | 10:46 a.m. July 9, 2009

"I love the smell of Napalm in the morning".

Blow the Jazz up and start over!

But | 10:56 a.m. July 9, 2009

Paul signs with POR and an 13th player also, then trades Utah for Boozer - Millsap becomes our starter and we unload Booz and get under the cap.

Boozer's salary still could go | 11:26 a.m. July 9, 2009

From Yahoo! Sports NBA website:

Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:20 am EDT

Pistons-Jazz still talking about Boozer for Hamilton swap
Talks continue between the Detroit Pistons and Utah Jazz about a Carlos Boozer(notes)-Rip Hamilton trade, according to the News-Herald in Northern Ohio.
Hamilton didn't fit with Allen Iverson(notes) this season, and he won't fit with newly acquired Ben Gordon(notes). In fact, Gordon has become Iverson. He has no conscience when taking shots.
Source: News-Herald

What is KOC doing? | 11:37 a.m. July 9, 2009

What has Kevin O Connor done in his tenure other than mismanage the salaries of this heartless team? His only saving grace has been Deron Williams. Other than that, blunders in the draft, bad FA's, clinging to guys who shouldn't be in the league(Collins, Knight), and his inability to pull the trigger on a trade.

Fire Kevin!

Mort | 12:05 p.m. July 9, 2009

I say let Milsap go if Portland gives him a big offer. There are other F we could get for less have very similar numbers when you calculate them that out. Chris Wilcox, Drew Gooden have as good or better production (Gooden) when you plug in equal time and they are 6-10. Both are unrestricted and should be available around for under 1/2 of what Portland is taking to Milsap about. I love Sap but if he goes he goes.

It's al about the Benjamin's with these guys. No loyalty. Considering a back-up role from a divisional rival is brutal.

If we are going to spend the money I would go for Lee over Milsap without thinking twice about it. If we are going to spend BIG then make sure we get the best bang for our buck. Get Lee.

Dave | 12:23 p.m. July 9, 2009

Fire Kevin? What are you smoking? He's one of the most respected GMs in the league.

Because the game of bball is at least 50% mental toughness and attitude, you get unpredictable things like AK getting a huge contract and almost instantly starting downhill fast, Boozer getting an injury here and there and letting his fears and ego get the best of him, and so on. You can't blame Kevin for not foreseeing those things.

On the other hand, picking Williams over Paul has, I think, proven to be the right move. Getting Okur was smart - Okur does great things for the Jazz and has a great attitude. Drafting Millsap and Brewer were smart moves.

Kevin's doing just fine, and will continue to make smart moves. Just let him do his job - which is tough enough without having morons offering contradictory advice thinking they could do better.

Thoughts | 2:18 p.m. July 9, 2009

Getting under the cap is easy.

If Millsap goes replace him with a cheap back up PF or let AK and Koufos cover and pick up a couple of minimum practice players to get to 13 players.

Buy out Harp or trade him for picks. His contract is non guaranteed.

Make one trade before the dead line that includes a non guaranteed contract coming back.

KOC is not the problem. The problem was L Miller and maybe J Sloan and his system's need for continuity.

The Jazz need a culture change (it is starting now).

They need to model after POR who has a better team and is under the cap. That means trading when a good trade opportunity exists instead of doing nothing hoping continuity will improve the team. The Jazz also need to get more 2nd round picks (cheap) and keep the best.

They also need to model after SA. Get the franchise PF (not Boozer or Millsap) and then build around DWill and the PF. Rotate role players whenever needed.

Miles | 3:24 p.m. July 9, 2009

Kevin can not do anything more cause he is out of money. Now he has to see what happens with Millsap before he can move Boozer. If Millsap leaves we have to keep Boozer until we find a trade to replace him. That takes time to do.

todd from santa ana | 3:50 p.m. July 9, 2009

drew gooden would be good if possible if someone can be moved. Chris Wilcox is a talented underachiever as tore the hair out of what he had left of mr Pj Carleismo. No on Wilcox.

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