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Anonymous | 3:30 p.m. July 6, 2009

I think the wimgers are confusing losing an election with tyranny. Cry me a river, then build a bridge and get over it.

RedShirt | 3:49 p.m. July 6, 2009

To "Anonymous | 2:50 p.m." who do you want the people to listen to? Do you want them to choose whatever radio personality they want to listen to? Or do you want them to only listen to the government?

Simple question, can you answer it, or are you afraid of what the answer will say about you?

Anonymous | 4:05 p.m. July 6, 2009

If I Spent as much time as conservatives spend crying, I would have died of dehydration years ago. If more conservatives had joined the military they might have learned:life isn't fair. You lost because of your failed leadership. grow-up ans get over it.

The irony is I'm glad I didn't have to carry these whiners while I served America.

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God and Family then country | 4:22 p.m. July 6, 2009

Ironic,

"I find it hilarious that the same people who were calling anyone who didn't agree with President Bush "110%" during time of war a traitor who should be tried or shot are now the same people calling for armed insurrection and overthrow of the government. The same people screaming about lost "freedoms" want to negate the votes of those they don't agree with via armed force. It's beginning to look more and more like playground bully style thuggery and less and less like patriotism."

These people aren't patriots except to themselves and their families. They don't care about others in this country or around the world. Their only concern is how every law will benefit them. They ignored the consanguinity that binds us as a nation in favor of their political ideology.

My family didn't advocate revolution when Bush was President even though he and those who voted for him attempted to harm my brother instead we hoped that he would survive long enough for us to vote Bush out of office. He fought and defended his country even even though Bush voters betrayed us.

time for some R&R | 4:59 p.m. July 6, 2009

Redshirt's been listening to Rush O'Hannity a bit too much.
I'd take a vacation if I were this poor neocon.
He's sounding nuttier and nuttier each posting.

Paul Sharp | 5:10 p.m. July 6, 2009

Had to go to work to help pay for Washington spending.... Now, reading again, I'm amazed at the vitriol. Most who disagree seem to think it's nothing more than election results. It's not right or left, conservative or liberals, and the election is beside the point. The point is what's going on. More here are taking sides and shooting at one another than contributing intelligent thoughts. I do agree with one detractor, however, who said there is already a revolution underway. Seems more of a coup, though: turning the country upside without regard to law or the Constitution.

The Founders were leery of government and did their best to limit it. Why have a Constitution if you don't abide by it? There are obviously many who find that wonderful. If those people value freedom FROM government so little, they deserve to be ruled BY government.

Anonymous | 5:28 p.m. July 6, 2009

The only changes that were made from Bush to Obama is the money changers in the temple. Bush was bought and so has Obama been bought just by different people. People don't want or like what he is doing but a small group of rich people and companies paid big money for him to get elected and now he has to pay up. This is the system we have lobbyist buying them and every few years they come back and get re-elected by us stupid people that think they represent us. Vote them out often is the best choice.

Mike Richards | 5:32 p.m. July 6, 2009

Mr. Obama's defenders fail to site policies with which they agree. They fail to explain how the government can take private property without payment. They fail to explain how Mr. Obama can fire CEOs of private companies, yet they have plenty of sarcasm when others use their right of free speech to point out that Mr. Obama needs help - because he is in way over his pay grade.

I especially enjoy the posts from those that claim that Mr. Bush ruined our financial future while they ignore the fact that Mr. Obama has already spent more than all the Presidents from George Washington to George Bush - combined!

The more they write, the easier it is to see that the liberals are either ignorant of the facts or that they see themselves as part of some elite group that deserves special rights and special favors at the expense of the rest of us. Mr. Obama has done a magnificent job of brain-washing the easily swayed.

Those of us that have spent even a few minutes reading world history can see that he is following a path that has led other nations to financial ruin.

Anonymous | 6:00 p.m. July 6, 2009

Mike Richards talks about:
"Mr. Obama's defenders"
He must be referring to the hoards of people who
first registered Democratic (in droves)
and second those who overwhelmingly voted him into office.
You really ought to confine your ridiculous comments to your fellow Limbaughites Mike.
You're sounding like a buffoon.

Hypocrisy | 6:10 p.m. July 6, 2009

"I especially enjoy the posts from those that claim that Mr. Bush ruined our financial future while they ignore the fact that Mr. Obama has already spent more than all the Presidents from George Washington to George Bush - combined!"

Then you should especially enjoy that while Bush threw billions of dollars into foreign affairs and "tax cuts" Obama is using billions of dollars for our own construction, infrastructure, and economy.

Yes, they both used a lot of money. However, each one used money quite differently. Joining them together and assuming that Obama is spending in the exact same way that Bush did is incredibly ignorant.

I love the ignorance of Neocons!

Progressive | 8:31 p.m. July 6, 2009

I have to disagree with you again Mr. Sharp only some of the founding fathers were leery of government, some prefered a strong central government. Ever heard of the Federalist papers and that whole discussion. Seems as though the topic is still not settled and that is the point to this whole discussion.

RedShirt | 9:21 p.m. July 6, 2009

To "time for some R&R | 4:59 p.m. " the funny thing is I don't listen to Rush or Hannity, and am lucky to hear 15 minutes of Beck on any given day.

Since you obviously listen to them more than I do, what else did they say recently on their shows?

To "Hypocrisy | 6:10 p.m." you are correct "assuming that Obama is spending in the exact same way that Bush did is incredibly ignorant." Obama spends money much faster.

RedShirt, did you really | 12:03 a.m. July 7, 2009

write:
"I think that if we could have a theocrisy headed by somebody who spoke directly to God, that we would be in a much better condition than we are in right now."???

Egads, man. What are you huffing?

RedShirt | 8:15 a.m. July 7, 2009

To "RedShirt, did you really | 12:03 a.m." yes I wrote that. Think about it, if God (through a mouthpiece) was directly guiding things in government, we wouldn't have to worry about a housing bubble. He would say, "here comes a housing bubble, and this is how to get through it quickly." There would be no need to worry about corrupt politicians, he would know if they are corrupt. You would never have to worry about businesses "buying" the leaders time.

J. Lennon | 11:53 a.m. July 7, 2009

You say you want a revolution?

You mean the kind that got Boss Limbaugh a 2nd place finish on Worst person in the word last night. "If we had any good luck, Honduras would send some people here to help us get our government back.”

Limbaugh is now a Che Guevara wanna be... oh the irony.

Joyce | 3:27 p.m. July 7, 2009

What a great letter, Paul! I am curious about one thing, however: Did the Deseret News edit any of your letter? They edited mine so badly on Sunday that it TOTALLY distorted my message.

Hear Hear! | 12:06 a.m. July 9, 2009

We the People need to take back the government by throwing out the corrupt ins and replacing them with good and honest people. Problem is, few who are good and honest run for office.

Dear Paul | 10:36 a.m. July 9, 2009

Time to do a little research, my friend. The country was corrupt from day one. Read about the Revolutionary War: while the Continental Army was starving at Valley Forge, Congress was living it up. Civilians wouldn't give food to the soldiers because they were selling it to the British and making tons of money. Nothing has changed. The world is the same as always: bad.

Wanna talk about confiscating land? Read the Supreme Court's interpretation of eminent domain to build strip malls in New England during the Bush era. Wanna talk about corruption? Think Nixon and Watergate.

The US has been a cesspool for a long time. Obama has only changed who benefits from the corruption, and that's why you don't like him. Admit it.

What a silly letter.

Re RedShirt 8:15 am | 10:50 a.m. July 9, 2009

That response regarding a theocracy, which you can't even spell, is wrong. Nauvoo was more or less a city-state, with Joseph Smith being both prophet and mayor. Yet God didn't tell them people would die of ague when they built over a swamp, nor did he tell them not to bother building a house or a temple because they were going to move 6 years later, etc. God did tell JS he would die, but nobody listened so he went to Carthage anyway.

That's not how life works. What's the point of coming to earth if we are going to just have God tell us how to do things? God doesn't care about housing bubbles, but fat cat Wall St investors do.

I think your point shows a shallow understanding of gospel principles.

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