kearney | 6:49 p.m. July 4, 2009
I'd bet the guy with the 'I am not your atm' sign in the photo will be the first in line when his insurance tanks on coverage of his next malady.
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Dolts | 6:59 p.m. July 4, 2009
I gotta love an ex-soldier protesting against creeping socialism. This guy has had great taxpayer-funded health care since the beginning of his career and will continue to have it until he dies. Why should I be paying for his health care when he doesn't pay a penny for mine?
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StokeyBob | 7:05 p.m. July 4, 2009
Did you ever wonder where the money for things like the subversion of the world's immigration laws may come from? Also, recently I’m seeing an ad campaign, using money we don’t have, to sell us on a new health plan.

It seems to me as long as we allow people to print up fiat money there will be no place in the world where freedom can flourish.

If the Globalist oppose your efforts, paid for with real hard earned money, all they have to do is fire up the presses and shovel the money to any group that will oppose you.

Not only that but it seems they do it in such a way that the money to achieve THEIR goals is borrowed from them. Then we pay interest to a group outside of our country, like the Federal Reserve, on the creation and borrowing of OUR OWN money.

IN ESSENCE THEY BEAT US WITH OUR OWN STICK!
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No win situation | 7:12 p.m. July 4, 2009
They would have to raise my taxes significantly to equal the astronomical amounts I'm now shelling out for private insurance. My snarky smarmy agent told me I should be happy since my premiums hadn't gone up as much as some other peoples and then he refused to switch my coverage to catastrophic. I had to call his boss to get the changes I want. It infuriates me that that smarmy oily tick makes money off me. They raise my coverage rates twice a year to cover the expenses of other people in my pool, and charge me extra every month for not using the 3rd party (apparently Barbados based) autopay system to make my payment. I loathe them. How exactly would government coverage differ from the bad treatment and paying the bills of others I do with my horrid for profit private insurance now? Not saying either is ideal. But private insurance in Utah has some truly bad apples in the business.
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I want to know | 7:15 p.m. July 4, 2009
when the next tea party is so that I can join
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JB | 7:17 p.m. July 4, 2009
Liberals want health care because they are compassionate. But it is not compassionate towards our children and grandchildren who will have to pay for the bailouts, socialized healthcare, cap and trade, etc. Their future will be ruined by this crushing, unpayable debt.

Why do people not understand that we are not born with guaranteed nannies, just the freedom to try and create opportunity...unless social agendas like cap and trade shackle those future opportunities.
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Cats | 7:53 p.m. July 4, 2009
Dear JB, liberals are the ultimate example of emotion passing for logic.

I hope the American people are beginning to wake up and realize what a terrible mistake we, as a nation, have made. I fear the Constitution truly is hanging by a thread.
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patriot | 8:04 p.m. July 4, 2009
Interesting how we don't like government involvement in our health care system, yet our beloved Mitt Romney as the former Massachusetts Governor had the inadvertent good sense to create the "universal" health-care program that the White House and Congress now want to inflict on the entire country. It is proving to be instructive, as Mr. Romney's foresight previews what President Obama, Max Baucus, Ted Kennedy and Pete Stark are cooking up for everyone else. This grand experiment Mr. Romney is so proud of is now bankrupting the state!

If you want constitutionally limited government, RON PAUL is the only true option. Romney supporters come to the reality that he supported the 1rst set of bailouts, wanted Washington to be a partner with Detroit before deciding that maybe he didn't, is for increasing Amercian forces policing the world etc..ad nauseam
Take the red pill!
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KJB | 8:06 p.m. July 4, 2009
Remember back in April when people said that the July 4th tea parties would attract ten times as many people? So much for this "mass" uprising; it looks we're just seeing the same hardcore (and statistically insignificant) right-wingers turning out again...
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@ Dolts 6:59 | 9:53 p.m. July 4, 2009
Because your country (you) promised you would pay for his health care for the rest of his life in exchange for asking him to do ANYTHING the country needed him to do for 20 years up to and including the sacrifice of his own life! How dare you question keeping the promise of health care to our service men and women. If you want the same promise then get your self down to the recruiting station and quit your griping!
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JB | 10:24 p.m. July 4, 2009
re: Cats

That is so funny you said that. Right before coming on here, I noticed some liberal comments on another thread and thought how interesting that most liberals throw nasty insults with no substance instead of seriously debating the issues. They figure if they call conservatives embarrassing names, then people will be afraid of those labels and quickly move left.

Research, documentation, history, substance...these things tell a story because not everything is relative. There are a few absolutes out there and our founding fathers did the research to discover what those are for political balance and freedom.
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Milt Lausten | 11:27 p.m. July 4, 2009
I admire these folks. At least they're doing something. Why are so many of us doing nothing while Obama prepares to declare himself King? My excuse? I've been lazy. Time to get busy.
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Tea Party Holiday | 11:31 p.m. July 4, 2009
The tea party occurred during a big holiday. It should have been held the following weekend, then more people would have showed. We're all about fighting taxes, but not on the 4th of July!!! Think, people!!!
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re: Kearney | 1:02 a.m. July 5, 2009
Hey Kearney, I bet you don't know that fellow who is holding the 'atm' sign. So how is it that you know this person so well that you can tell us what this person will do in the event of something that you cannot forsee, but are willing to make up.

I would imagine that you yourself do not like it when people assume things about you, yet you yourself make a very grand assumption, thinking you can just embarrass people into shutting up so you can get your free stuff.

You really think that socialism will work? Please, tell me WHERE IT HAS EVER WORKED???

It has NEVER WORKED... ANYWHERE..

Every country that has tried it has failed and either fallen, or gotten their act together.

You seem to think that we will go quietly into the night, however you are very wrong. We will not be silenced by the likes of you, spending money that does not exist to solve problems that also do not exist.

Just because someone wants something, does not mean it is a problem for everyone else. It is THAT PERSONS PROBLEM, and no one else. That is freedom baby!
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Anonymous | 1:34 a.m. July 5, 2009
Some of the church taxes need to be evaluated. We're all paying for BYU students whose tuition is subsidized by all tithe payers. This isn't fair either. Every time we turn around there is a new fund. Perpetual education, humanitatian fund, missionary fund, etc. in addition to tithing. With al the billions in the bank, why are members asked to come up with increasingly more. Lots of the money goes toward shopping centers, apartment complexes, and other commercial enterprises. Its a difficult time and I think some of this is excessive.
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Anonymous | 1:36 a.m. July 5, 2009
300 people out of a state of over 2 million. This is impressive.

"You really think that socialism will work? Please, tell me WHERE IT HAS EVER WORKED???"

Where has capitalism worked without regulation? Remember the Long Depression of the 1890's and thirty years later there was the Great Depression? Before these there was the Trusts, robber barons, slavery, child labor, sweat shops, inflected meat, government troops shooting workers and Joe Hill.

You teabeggers. This single American has to pay more taxes to rise your kids and to support your marriages? Did you whine about the 3.2 billion the rest of us paid for Utah's 15 mins. of fame in 2002?

We Americans outside Utah; let welfare ranchers graze below market value. We let mining companies take our ore without paying royalties and we pay to fight wildfires. Utahans get $1.28 for each dollar you pay in federal taxes. Us Californians don't get back a dollar for a dollar.

Cry me a river.

Back to socialism. Did Fox New tell you than the Japanese auto industry's research and development was and is government founded? Did government work?
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The Aggressively Stupid | 1:51 a.m. July 5, 2009
These protesters (and many of these posters) sound like the convention of the aggressively stupid. Their views are not rooted in reality or a basic understanding of the issues. I am guessing the vast majority were raised by republican parents, and are therefore republican without actually thinking for themselves. They will simply oppose everything President Obama does because he is a Democrat. Stop merely repeating what the conservative Christian extremist media tells you to believe. They are not telling you the truth. Think for yourselves!!

The truth is, Reagan, Bush, and Bush expanded government spending and created record deficits. Clinton balanced the budget. Obama's stated goal is to balance the budget before he leaves office. Those are the facts the Christian conservative extremist media does not talk about. Which is the fiscally responsible party of the past 30 years?

PS. Has another conservative christian extremist who preaches to Americans about morality cheated on his wife yet this weekend? Check the local parks, I'm sure you will find several.
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re: Dolts | 2:09 a.m. July 5, 2009
He helped purchase your freedom. Unless you served in the armed forces you haven't paid a penny for yours or his. I happily pay taxes to help pay healthcare costs for ex-soldiers- but not for deadbeat losers.
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Recent article | 4:06 a.m. July 5, 2009
A recent article quoted that only 49% of americans have any patriotism for the United States. I guess that means the other 51% are socialist and want the government to continually be their God Fathers and provide for them.

If so many want socialized health care then why are they willing to waste their money on an insurance premium that does not guarantee socialized health care?

We can blame the news media for lack of turnout because they too want socialism. The news media never once published any information about a 'Tea' party rebellion. And only limit their story to humiliate and call them dissenters. Remember people, it was those dissenters that died for our freedoms and wrote our constitution.

In writing our constitution they left out socialism and its programs for a reason, to allow all to earn their keep. Like Hitler, Obama is using the poor and the word free to further the cause of socialism.

The real problem with american people is they are not organized to fight for what they deserve, and they deserve better pay and wages so they can afford to pay for their own health care and food.
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J Rett | 5:24 a.m. July 5, 2009
Dolt, what a great name. Why should you pay for a soldier's health care? Did you really ask that stupid a question? I guess their is no hope for some.

PS: The total debt is 99 Trillion, with all the government programs...ALL, So stop pointing fingers at who did what...We need to Stop Spending...figure out how to get out of this mess...before we loose our country.
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