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We tend to ignore their actions because of their politial beliefs. To me this is some what hypocritical. Many times our response is limited by the political party of the offender.
How many of our conservative political leaders were critical of former President Clinton while at the same time doing the same thing themselves?
Didn't some one once say let him that is without sin cast the first stone? That does not seem to be the case.
rights. Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR were progressives. Hillary Clinton stated that she was an early 20th century progressive like teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
"However, unlike the dems, the republicans usually get rid of or ostracize, or take away their seniority position."
Ah, yes, and that's why we've heard so little from Newt Gingrich recently, and why Bill "Pass the Loofah" O'Reilly is so unpopular, and why Rush Limbaugh's ratings fell after he got caught in Carribean with a stash of Viagra, and why Sarah Palin dropped out of the VP race when her teenage daughted got pregnant. Oh, wait...
Republicans: At least take the heat and admit their passion for sex and they don't deny it or kill for it.
I see a difference!!!
Democrats: Deny it, take the heat, and the punishment, while never preaching they are the perfect humans.
Yes, I see the difference!!!!
Like Warren Harding who used to sneak whores into the White House as well as fathering an out of wedlock child? Or Strom Thurmond's love child?
"The dems keep putting them in office - leaving the girl in the car to drown and not report it Teddy Kennedy;"
Kennedy was not accused in a sex scandal. It was leaving an accident and failure to report it. Whether he could have saved the girl cannot be known. He was not exonerated. His re-election was a decision of the Massachusetts voters, not the Democratic Party. Yes, his behavior was reprehensible but he admitted it. Compare that admission with Dick Cheney's shooting episode. He went to a friend's house and started drinking to cover up the fact that he was drinking before the incident. Nothing happened to him, did it?
" gov of New York; and I could go on and on and on."
Spitzer resigned ... or did you not know that?
The rumors. The gossip. The record shows that significant members of the Party of Family Values seem to deviate from their stated purpose. Forget Bill Clinton. He never said he was the leader of the Party of Family Values.
Unfortunately, there is no Party of Family Values. The Republicans are a joke! They say they are of high, moral standing, but they are like all the rest of us: imperfect!
Grist for the rumor mill. George Bush is accused of paying for an underage girl to have an abortion. Also, there remains the unanswered question of Margie Schoedinger, a Texas woman who filed a rape lawsuit against George W. Bush in December 2002. The only problem is that she later died from an apparent suicide.
It is well known that Bush was a Randy Dandy in his youth. However, his youth extended until his early 40s. But it is not clear if his Come to Jesus moment completely redeemed his errent behavior, but he soon became the leader of the Party of Family Values.
"Brandon, Brandon. Should we aspire for goodness and morality or should we just succumb to the baser side of life, or even celebrate debachery, like the good libs do? Sure the conservatives have there problems, but they don't embrace dirtbags the way the dems do. These characters that you speak of have been shown the door, in the dem party they are glorified."
What a childish thing to say, obviously you do not know many liberals, but like a child you believe things just because others have told you they are true. You believe in fairy tales. Cute in a way.
Maybe if you actually knew liberals you would find out they are good people that raise good families.
They have been shown the door? Really? Sanford and Ensign are still in office and the GOP leadership has put no pressure on them to leave.
Philanderer Newt Gingrich is back, even being talked about as a presidential contender; criminal Limbaugh is revered; pet of FOX News Dick Morris, john with tax problems; convicted felon Oliver North; perjurer Mark Fuhrman; Philanderer Rudy Giuliani, GOP presidential hopeful.
The Supreme Court is who determined that abortion was legal, not the Democratic Party. The last (Republican) president appointed two so-called conservative justices and what has changed?
1- don't kill the unborn members of your family.
2- recognize that God is great, and man is nothing.
3- keep the commandments - don't cheat on your spouse.
4- love others.
I'm sure there are many more family values that could be listed, but this is a start...
No matter what level of hypocricy their leadership arrives at, the followers will continue to be dragged down with the weight of the "do as I say don't do as I do" crowd.
Then I realized what a very sad list of "family values" it is.
"The stench of hypocrisy coming from this letter is unbearable. What nonsense! What rubbish!
"The Demoncratic Party is complicit in the murder of countless unborn babies every day..."
You and the Republican Party are both complicit in the deaths of pregnant women. You believe that you know everything and that no woman is intelligent or moral enough to make the right decision so why try persuading them when you can forbid these inferior women to do as you say.
If they die because Republicans are wrong then God will bless the Republicans and demand that their murder victims forgive them for their votes killing them or burn in hell. Those women really have two choices. Forgive those whose votes killed them or burn in hell because God will not punish those who murdered them. God bless America where strangers get to vote on the life of our loved ones.
Isn't it great to live in the land of the free (free to vote). We get to read such wonderful posts from a nobody who thinks they have the say on my wife's health and life.
"You know KM, I could not figure out what was bothering me about your little list of "family values", aside from the obvious god is great shtick, and then it hit me, you say nothing, directly, about living children, not a word. The closest you come to saying anything about children is to "love others."
Then I realized what a very sad list of "family values" it is."
He doesn't care about living children.
They don't mean anything to him and the life of the unborn child is more valuable than that of the woman who may die if she's denied an abortion, her living children's becoming orphans or her husband being a widow means nothing to him.
Of course KM has a say in the matter. The mother, her family, doctor and religious leaders must be forced to debate with other voters and prove to them that her life is threatened before being granted permission to have an abortion. IF THOSE VOTERS ARE WRONG AND SHE DIES they will get to return home to their family while their victims grieve their votes killing their loved one.
I understand what you are saying, I hear you. But being a guy I try to stay away from the abortion issue, except for saying that I, being a guy, will never have to make the decision of whether or not to have an abortion personally, and also to say that if it were men that gave birth then abortion would not even be an issue.
About KM's list: I do believe that KM must care about living children, but it is very telling that the top things he names as "family values" does not include raising, nurturing, teaching, and loving children. Very telling indeed.
It says, "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine."
So, I looked up mischief meaning at the time and it means additional harm. So, translating this to current time I took it to mean If a man does something to cause a woman to lose her unborn baby, but the woman does not suffer any additional harm, the punishment shall be only what the father wishes and the court allows.
So, if the father approves of an abortion and wishes no punishment for the person perfroming the abortion, doesn't mean that the woman is free to have an abortion?
Seems that the hebrew laws of the Old Testament (you know the same ones as Leviticus that talks about homosexuality) clear the way for abortion.
I'm confused.
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