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Good news is coming | 10:04 p.m. July 2, 2009
If your data is correct and the interpretation correct -- good news is coming.
Many are pointing to 1998 at the end of our previous warming cycle and which
means we are only in the beginning of the next cooling cycle since weather comes
in cycles. Jupiter, Mars and Earth have experienced the warming pattern not due
to cars American drive but to changes in the universe. So - perhaps in time if
this has been the cause -- it will start to self correct. Best wishes and good
luck!
Bender Rodriguez | 10:21 p.m. July 2, 2009
With Global Warming, we won't need wool sweaters anyway.
Pulling the wool over our eyes | 10:29 p.m. July 2, 2009
I don't fit into some of the sweaters I wore two years ago. After reading
the article I now know why. I believe in global warming (and warm donuts).
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Research Scientist | 11:14 p.m. July 2, 2009
This is garbage science at its best... or worse. Like most "global warming
propaganda, the subjective "research" was designed to support a
preconceived result... these researchers were SLOPPY!
The "article" says that the sheep are 5% smaller than they were in 1985. What the article FAILED TO MENTION is that the actual juvenile survival of these feral sheep, which are isolated on a 250 acre island, is highly associated with resistance to levels of intestinal nematodes (parasites). With lower levels of parasites you get higher survival rates of genetically inferior, smaller sheep. This article fails to address research by Paterson et al (1998) that concludes that "parasites are likely to play a major role in the maintenance of diversity in this population of sheep" (Yes, the same herd of sheep). Also, over the years, many of the sheep have been treated with anthelminic drugs (that kill parasites). Kill the parasites and you get smaller sheep.
Bottom line is that there are far too many variables to conclude that so called "climate change" has anything to do with the claimed results.
Sound science is tough on liberals with agendas.
The "article" says that the sheep are 5% smaller than they were in 1985. What the article FAILED TO MENTION is that the actual juvenile survival of these feral sheep, which are isolated on a 250 acre island, is highly associated with resistance to levels of intestinal nematodes (parasites). With lower levels of parasites you get higher survival rates of genetically inferior, smaller sheep. This article fails to address research by Paterson et al (1998) that concludes that "parasites are likely to play a major role in the maintenance of diversity in this population of sheep" (Yes, the same herd of sheep). Also, over the years, many of the sheep have been treated with anthelminic drugs (that kill parasites). Kill the parasites and you get smaller sheep.
Bottom line is that there are far too many variables to conclude that so called "climate change" has anything to do with the claimed results.
Sound science is tough on liberals with agendas.
Truth Confuses Liberals | 11:37 p.m. July 2, 2009
"Research Scientist | 11:14 p.m. July 2, 2009
This is garbage science at its best... or worse. Like most "global warming propaganda, the subjective "research" was designed to support a preconceived result... these researchers were SLOPPY!
The "article" says that the sheep are 5% smaller than they were in 1985. What the article FAILED TO MENTION is that the actual juvenile survival of these feral sheep, which are isolated on a 250 acre island, is highly associated with resistance to levels of intestinal nematodes (parasites). With lower levels of parasites you get higher survival rates of genetically inferior, smaller sheep. This article fails to address research by Paterson et al (1998) that concludes that "parasites are likely to play a major role in the maintenance of diversity in this population of sheep" (Yes, the same herd of sheep). Also, over the years, many of the sheep have been treated with anthelminic drugs (that kill parasites). Kill the parasites and you get smaller sheep.
Bottom line is that there are far too many variables to conclude that so called "climate change" has anything to do with the claimed results.
Sound science is tough on liberals with agendas."
Nice post!
This is garbage science at its best... or worse. Like most "global warming propaganda, the subjective "research" was designed to support a preconceived result... these researchers were SLOPPY!
The "article" says that the sheep are 5% smaller than they were in 1985. What the article FAILED TO MENTION is that the actual juvenile survival of these feral sheep, which are isolated on a 250 acre island, is highly associated with resistance to levels of intestinal nematodes (parasites). With lower levels of parasites you get higher survival rates of genetically inferior, smaller sheep. This article fails to address research by Paterson et al (1998) that concludes that "parasites are likely to play a major role in the maintenance of diversity in this population of sheep" (Yes, the same herd of sheep). Also, over the years, many of the sheep have been treated with anthelminic drugs (that kill parasites). Kill the parasites and you get smaller sheep.
Bottom line is that there are far too many variables to conclude that so called "climate change" has anything to do with the claimed results.
Sound science is tough on liberals with agendas."
Nice post!
Pacific NW | 11:43 p.m. July 2, 2009
I can tell you that here in the NW, we've had our 2 coldest years on
record. That's not opinion, you can go look it up. It was so cold in
Alaska last year that the salmon didn't run - they were confused because
the rivers were iced over in mid May.
So I don't know where all the polar bears sitting in hot tubs are that Gore keeps talking about, but it's not here. I don't know why these people think they can tell us what we can see and feel is not real.
So I don't know where all the polar bears sitting in hot tubs are that Gore keeps talking about, but it's not here. I don't know why these people think they can tell us what we can see and feel is not real.
Cold winters | 3:47 a.m. July 3, 2009
Mean nothing. It's not unusual for wild shifts in weather. It's the
average temperature that is used to determine global temperature.
Perplexed in UT | 4:14 a.m. July 3, 2009
"I can tell you that here in the NW, we've had our 2 coldest years on
record. "
Good for you. Do you know the difference between global climate and local weather?
"I don't know why these people think they can tell us what we can see and feel is not real."
That's not what's happening at all. What "these people" (climate scientists) _are_ saying is that as an entire system, Earth is warming.
From a NASA 2005 report on Global Mean Surface Temperatures:
"The highest global surface temperature in more than a century of instrumental data was recorded in the 2005 calendar year in the GISS annual analysis. However, the error bar on the data implies that 2005 is practically in a dead heat with 1998, the warmest previous year."
Or how about this from the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia:
"The year 2008 was tenth warmest on record, exceeded by 1998, 2005, 2003, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2001, 2007 and 1997."
Globally, the last decade is the warmest on record. That's a fact, and it has zero to do with "liberal" agendas.
Good for you. Do you know the difference between global climate and local weather?
"I don't know why these people think they can tell us what we can see and feel is not real."
That's not what's happening at all. What "these people" (climate scientists) _are_ saying is that as an entire system, Earth is warming.
From a NASA 2005 report on Global Mean Surface Temperatures:
"The highest global surface temperature in more than a century of instrumental data was recorded in the 2005 calendar year in the GISS annual analysis. However, the error bar on the data implies that 2005 is practically in a dead heat with 1998, the warmest previous year."
Or how about this from the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia:
"The year 2008 was tenth warmest on record, exceeded by 1998, 2005, 2003, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2001, 2007 and 1997."
Globally, the last decade is the warmest on record. That's a fact, and it has zero to do with "liberal" agendas.
AL GORE | 6:30 a.m. July 3, 2009
Will save us all!!
Mad Scientists! | 6:32 a.m. July 3, 2009
All science is a crock! We should just go with our gut feel like George Bush
did!
It is kind of chilly this morning -- no global warming in Utah today!
It is kind of chilly this morning -- no global warming in Utah today!
re:perplexed | 6:52 a.m. July 3, 2009
"Globally, the last decade is the warmest on record. That's a fact,
and it has zero to do with "liberal" agendas." But hysteria
does.
Anonymous | 7:12 a.m. July 3, 2009
No, no, no ... you miss the point. Of course the researchers' conclusion
is nonsense, but the researchers satisfied their goal of collecting a paycheck!
Linking the study to global warming provides an avenue for funding that these
'studiers-of-sheep' would never get otherwise.
Follow the money.
Follow the money.
that explains... | 7:27 a.m. July 3, 2009
...why the sweater that fit me five years ago is too small now!!!!
Another Research Doc | 7:45 a.m. July 3, 2009
Data discovered on NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS)
website revised recorded temperatures for the United States. This information
was discovered by Steve McIntyre of Climate Audit on Wednesday (8/8/2007). No
NASA press release, no James Hansen (head of GISS) announcement, nothing. Could
it be because they don't want anyone to see it? The data is certainly
devastating for the Al Gore camp which has based much of their Carbon Credits
sales pitch on recent temperatures (e.g. claiming that 1998 was the warmest on
record).
Other aspects of the data are just as stunning.
Out of the top 10 warmest years half occurred before 1940.
The years 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004 were cooler than the year 1900.
1996, just two years before what Al Gore called the hottest year in the history of the planet, was actually cooler than average.
1921 was the third warmest year in recorded history (behind 1934 and 1998).
It is obvious that in just the past 125 years there have been other periods just as warm, or warmer, than what we are now experiencing.
Other aspects of the data are just as stunning.
Out of the top 10 warmest years half occurred before 1940.
The years 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004 were cooler than the year 1900.
1996, just two years before what Al Gore called the hottest year in the history of the planet, was actually cooler than average.
1921 was the third warmest year in recorded history (behind 1934 and 1998).
It is obvious that in just the past 125 years there have been other periods just as warm, or warmer, than what we are now experiencing.
The great global warming swindle | 9:47 a.m. July 3, 2009
is an interesting video available for viewing on the internet. One point that a
scientist makes is that government research money is in global warming. He
states: "If you want to study the nut-gathering behavior of squirrels in
Sussex, no one will fund the research. If you want to study the nut-gathering
behavior of squirrels in Sussex, and how this is influenced by Global Warming,
the research money will come".
Sounds exactly like what this article is about, even before reading the above mentioned parasite problem with these same sheep and how multiple variables throw this research conclusion in question.
Sounds exactly like what this article is about, even before reading the above mentioned parasite problem with these same sheep and how multiple variables throw this research conclusion in question.
Something Else Shrunk! | 10:28 a.m. July 3, 2009
I looked at my take-home pay & global warming/climate change has made it
shrink too.
This idea that man is causing global warming/climate change is a theory at best, the science debate is never over, the debate & study will only make us learn more & become better.
I only hope my take-home pay will change, not just become change!
This idea that man is causing global warming/climate change is a theory at best, the science debate is never over, the debate & study will only make us learn more & become better.
I only hope my take-home pay will change, not just become change!
In Inconvenient Sheep | 10:58 a.m. July 3, 2009
How fascinating that the working title of the upcoming Disney/Al Gore docu-drama
is "Honey, we shrunk the sheep."
brerabbit | 2:53 p.m. July 3, 2009
I know nothing about globel warming and evan less about this flock of sheep and
the island they live on but I know a great deal about animal husbandry. If
everything I've just read is fact I can tell you that if you issolate
anything on a 250 acre island you get inbreeding. Prolonged inbreeding produces
smaller offspring. Thats a fact
That's | 5:25 p.m. July 3, 2009
alright, they would still be lamb chops to me....LOL!!
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