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My view: Take responsibility for saving planet
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That's all Republicans need to know.
Meanwhile, we stay enslaved to big oil, pollution, and corporations.
Would you rather be enslaved to Big Wind and Big Solar which suck the taxpayer dry, or maybe Big Ethanol which causes worldwide food shortages?
I think the rest of your group could learn a lot from you; keep it up!
That does not mean that mankind should spoil his environment. Mankind then suffers. The US has done an excellent job of cleaning the rivers and the air. There is a point of diminishing return when these earth protecting iniatives bring misery to humans, we are approaching that level. With attitudes like Daves, he idealizes nature and diminishes mankind, you can see how we reach that point.
Dave should go to old soviet countries and be an activist there. They need it. They have actually despoiled their environment.
First, that some Mormons believe doctrinal justification for destroying the earth. Baloney. That's just twisted.
Second, that "it stands to reason that man is responsible" for global warming. More baloney. Temperatures have fluctuated up and down in a range of over 10 degrees C in the past thousands of years. There is no automatic reason to say a change of a fraction of a degree is Mankind's fault.
Third, the "consensus" idea falls apart when you look at the details of polls of scientists. There is strong disagreement on the degree to which Mankind influences climate, and that's the most important question.
The US air and water have gotten cleaner every decade since the 70's, in case you haven't noticed (or are too young to have seen it).
Will China and India join anti-capitalist leftists in "saving" the planet? NO. They'll be laughing as the USA crumbles, and take what's left our manufacturing jobs and any other job the USA exports in the name of "saving the Planet".
Where and when has Rush or Hannity or anyone else ever spoken of "the evils of conservation, recycling, and researching clean energy?" They never have and to suggest otherwise is either flat out lying or ignorantly invoking their names in blind obeisance to the liberal mantra. They, and many others, believe in researching ALL energy options, without bankrupting us individually and as a nation in the meantime with draconian measures like cap and trade.
Talk about hypocrisy - did you see the pictures of the Washington, DC mall after the inauguration of President Obama? Yeah, these people are really committed to cleaning up the earth.
No one says it is.
"The globe is not warming (it's actually in a cooling cycle)."
Nope - of the last thousand or so years, the 10 warmest years have been in the past decade. And the warming is accelerating.
"Sunspots have more to do with global temperatures than CO2."
Utter nonsense. You can prove this... how?
"Man has little or no effect on it."
More nonsense. We're changing the atmospheric chemistry. CO2 concentrations are now at >385 ppm, more than any time in the last 2+ million years.
"This is just a bunch of liberal rubbish to try to increase federal power and crush our freedoms."
No, it's called scientific research. The same kind of science that proved that tobacco was killing people, lead in motor fuel was poisoning people, and that washing your hands before handling food helps you avoid getting sick.
Yet the people and the plants are thriving.
I guess its not so bad after all.
We can be, and have been, moving towards cleaner burning of fuel. We have already, in the West, reduced the level of industrial waste substantially. People have given up, or not started, smoking tobacco. This helps us individually and as cities and towns. It's a good direction to move but no need to panic IMO. Think it out; take your time. Do not destroy industry or phase it out, do not close down industrial processes or make them too expensive to survive, but work as fast as possible on alternative viable methods of manufacture, where indicated.
The earth will be burned much faster by warfare, wildfires and arson, and this is what is happening and I think will get worse. Areas have had record temperatures and periods of drought in recent decades while others have had very cold winters and changes in the times of the seasons.
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