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Consistency | 1:04 p.m. July 2, 2009

Love or hate Sloan and "his system", there is something to be said for consistency. How NBA teams can boast the overall winning that the Jazz have had since he has been at the helm? Its all about the ring and what have you done for me NOW. Like the guy or not, how many teams have been in the playoffs 18 of the last 21 years. In professional sports today when teams have so much changeover, you are lucky to have a coach and/or players longer than 4-5 years. I don't always like or agree with what Sloan and the Jazz do, but I'm not paid to make those decisions. I, like the rest of you, are just fans! Like the man or not, his teams have consistently won. Yes, we all want a championship, but very few actually get them. Like him or not, give Sloan and the Jazz credit for being able to win consistently. It takes a pretty good coach and franchise to be able to do what he and the Jazz have in today's world of professional sports.

@Redic & others | 1:05 p.m. July 2, 2009

On paper this Jazz team should be a top 3 team in the West but will they win on the road and back to backs? They will have a great home record again.

Injuries are a fact of the NBA. Relying on Boozer is like relying on McGrady and Yao. You can't bet the franchise on them.

Boozer will have more value in trade than McGrady, Yao or Stackhouse. The Jazz will get value out of him or cap space next year.

Dan | 1:08 p.m. July 2, 2009

I say work a sign and trade out with the Orlando Magic and Hedo Turkoglu. Trade Carlos Boozer and a couple of second round picks to the Magic for a resigned Turkoglu and J.J. Redick.

Then resign Millsap hopefully for around $4-6 million a year. Could you imagine that team? Could you imagine that Orlando team as well?

Just a thought.

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Cowboy Joe | 1:08 p.m. July 2, 2009

I am going to say this one last time. The Jazz will make the playoffs as presently constructed, but they will exit early and be no better then the 6th seed. They need a drastic change, something they never do, to become a contender. They need to get rid of Slown and half the team. Boozer Okur Millsap Cryalenko, Dwill, etc are not a championship team, a good team, but not great. I want a great team for once. Go Todd Go Me, Go Magnus, and Go Sini

todd to 1247 | 1:09 p.m. July 2, 2009

sloanaholic...By the way I hate the lakers....hate them...Real men...Ok whatever you believe....It is really funny. before I started going off the whole town was very complacent regarding the Jazz and theyr'e lack of direction. Now 6 months later, majority of people are starting to feel the same way. I will continue the pressure and one of these days they will crack because i will have enough support.

bill from orem | 1:14 p.m. July 2, 2009

todd as usual is right on, some things I do not agree with him on. He has a passion following jazz for 30 years is not a fly by night. reading his words I can see how hurt he is and wants to win and we all want the same. maybe this is why so many are frustrated., maybe people should not show for one night. I realize they were limited and had to take players back. however, sign and trade options, prioritizing needs, moving up in draft. It is my belief Sloan and O connor in particular will never get the job done. He is right and many of you need to start seeing beyond your limited vision and express this to the front office.

@Random | 1:16 p.m. July 2, 2009

Yes SL is not the favorite market for most big headed NBA players as the Jazz, for the most part get ignored by the national media, unless they are beating a big name team or leading the West.

However, the Jazz could buy up in the drafts and get much better talent instead of cheap projects. Projects are not cheap if they cause you to over pay and keep veterans that you should replace with younger better players.

The Jazz could be much more active in trades. They could keep some of the veterans on short contracts so that they have expiring contracts to work with (see SA).

The Jazz as an organization have a continuity bias. The teams that have won lately have made aggressive moves, some at mid season (LA, ORL, BOS, DEN). In some cases they got very lucky one sided trades but they were aggressive. Utah is passive. The management style is wrong for the current enviroment.

The Jazz are now forced into a situation where they have to be more aggressive. They need to seize the opportunity. I doubt if they will change any more than they are forced to.

That is the root problem.

Status Quo | 1:42 p.m. July 2, 2009

The odds on winning the 2009-2010 championship have changed. In order: CLE, LA (tied for 1st), BOS, ORL, SA, DEN, HOU, POR and the Utah Jazz in 9th place. I have no idea who is betting on HOU.

However, I think it is fair to suggest that the Jazz are at least a weak contender with this team. In the West LA and SA are strong, DEN and POR can be serious. If Utah stays healthy I would group Utah with DEN and POR.

I am surprised and heartened by Greg's willingness to venture into the Lux Tax even if it is only for one year. I think he is sending a clear signal that things are changing and he is committed to winning.

Those of us who are critical of Jazz management appreciate the willingness to try. It is clear that Greg's management philosophy is different. So far I would say it is better. He stopped giving needless raises to players who are not good enough to win a championship. Hopefully he will start replacing them with ones who can.

Maybe Sloan will be more flexibile now he sees a different management style?

@ consistency | 2:12 p.m. July 2, 2009

That is both the strenght and the weakness of the Sloan system.

Sometimes your strengths are your weaknesses. Sloan and his implementation of his system are good. But they have not been good enough to win it all.

If you are satisfied with being a perrenial playoff team (there is a lot to be said for that) then Sloan has done his job well.

On the other hand DET has been pretty good at making the playoffs and also has rings. SA has been pretty consistent and has a handful of rings.

We keep trying to find a way to help Sloan get one for his aging pinky. We don't hate Sloan. Just the opposite we want him to succeed. Or we want to reload with a better approach.

Re: Ridiculous Comments | 2:18 p.m. July 2, 2009

Even healthy the Jazz with the same roster are not a top 3 team in the West. All of the other elite teams have taken steps forward.

1. Lakers will be at least as good as last year and probably better. Bynum will be healthy, their other young bucks now are more experienced, and they may be picking up Ron Artest. The Jazz still have all the glaring flaws (undersized front court and a shooting guard who can't shoot) that got them whooped last season.

2. The Spurs just traded table scraps to acquire Richard Jefferson and are likely going to make another big time acquisition soon. In short, they have taken a huge step up while the Jazz are status quo or worse off than last year.

3. The Nuggets have also taken a huge step up since the middle of last season. The team has finally bought into playing solid defense to add to their wide array of offensive weapons.

4. Trailblazers whooped us last year and all their young guys have only gotten better. If they add Turkoglu in the backcourt with Brandon Roy, the Jazz won't have much of an answer for them.

Drafted Well | 2:28 p.m. July 2, 2009

Wages of Wins list Maynor as the 5th best PG in the draft and the overall 20th best player in the draft.

However, they list Suton as the 6th best C or PF (actually 2nd best C) and 14th best player in the draft.

Time will tell but the Jazz seem to be doing an okay job of drafting with late picks. Since the Jazz love projects maybe they should aggressively buy early second round picks, put them in Europe or D league and create a farm system to feed the Jazz.

As long as they rotate the veterans who can be replaced with better younger players the farm system might hold down costs and provide the upgrades needed to get a championship. Expiring veteran contracts might give the Jazz the right trade at some point.

The farm system might solve the "I don't want to play in Utah" problem.

SIgh | 3:16 p.m. July 2, 2009

And that's why the jazz will never win a championship!
If the fans, and the players and the coaches are all satisfied with making it to the playoffs, they'll never get passed them. It isn't about having success here and there, no matter how long it goes on for, if you're an NBA team and your number one goal, your one drive in life is to make it to the finals, and if it isn't, then you might as well not be a team at all. The notion that because the jazz have made it to the playoff's consistently over the years, somehow makes it ok to not continue fighting and doing everything they can to make the team better and get them one step closer to the finals, is rediculous. For real championship teams, there is no playoffs, just the finals.

Shaybo | 4:07 p.m. July 2, 2009

To say you can't get a good player out of Boozer is totally wrong, his expiring 12.7 mil contract makes him worth a lot, especially to teams planning on going after the high profile free agents next year. I love Milsap but to pay 10 mil would be absolutely insane. Boozer and Milsap were both over matched big time by Odom in the Laker series, if your going to put out that kind of money go after him.

todd from santa ana | 4:13 p.m. July 2, 2009

The latest saga of the continuing story "O Connor does nothing"

Today Updates: Gortat committs verbally to Dallas (means they now move in my opinion ahead of Jazz as better team slipping us to #6 at best)

Ariza: Houston talking

"the SHEED" Boston Celtics

Then for you sloanaholics, talking about "tough" I guess you would prefer Okur over Sheed.

Imagine my suprise.

Stay tuned for more teams overtaking the Jazz

Cowboy Joe | 4:17 p.m. July 2, 2009

I would just like to see the Jazz do something different. Yes the team will go to the playoffs be good enough, but I would like to see a true contender in Utah. The team needs to make some bold moves. Chris Broussard just said that Gortat will take the mid level from San Antonio. In the West it goes San Antonio Lakers, Denver, Portland, Houston, and then maybe Utah. Be bold make a major move or two. It just might work.

Shaybo | 4:21 p.m. July 2, 2009

Okur, Boozer, Korver and Harpring, that's over 30 million in expiring contract's next year. If we don't go crazy on Milsap we could be a major player in the Bosh or Nowitski chase next year.

Chuck Nunn | 4:41 p.m. July 2, 2009

I really don't think Sloan is the kind of guy who will say something just to stoke the market rumors. I believe that he's genuinely pleased that both Boozer and Okur are back for one more shot. And I am too. We've seen what this nucleus does when it's healthy, and if they can stay that way in the upcoming season, good things will happen. If they don't, there's February's trade deadine or the wild and woolly offseason next summer to start rebuilding. Of course, in the NBA, you never say never. But I really do think that the trade rumors abut Boozer, like always, are waaaayyyyy off.

Peace out from the Jazz Oracle!

Dave | 5:06 p.m. July 2, 2009

If Kirilenko had honor, not greed, he would renegotiate his contract. I personally would be embarrassed knowing I was so overpaid.

On the other hand, perhaps Kirilenko feels he is worth his current contract. Remember, when the Jazz signed him Kirilenko was the man: filling up a stat sheet in every column. He was all over the place with in-the-pain scoring, rebounding, assists, steals, etc. The Jazz were short on great players as Malone and Stockton left the team.

Kirilenko was also an All-Star at that point. The Jazz fan community was all over the place saying the Jazz had to offer Kirilenko max-money b/c Kirlenko was the man!

Soooo, Kirilenko may be thinking these other players came in, changed the dynamics, and suddenly his numbers drop because his minutes drop, as well as his role on the team, and his touches.

Kirilenko is an emotional guy. After years of being dumped on my Sloan, Kirilenko's psyche is pretty beat up.

Artest is claiming a deal | 5:57 p.m. July 2, 2009

with LA. I am not sure that makes LA better but it puts Ariza out on the street. It may make more sense for OKC to go after Ariza for 5.6 Mill than to give more to Millsap.

For that matter it may make more sense for Utah to buy out Harp or trade him and CJ for picks/ expiring contracts and ink Ariza.

I wonder if KOC is talking to Ariza? HOU is.

POR acted strangely on draft night (not as bad as MN) and wasted many of their picks. I am not sure Turkoglu is a good fit for them or actually makes them better. He does cost them money which will cause problems when their young players need to be resigned.

Artest going to LA make about as much sense as Z-BO going to MEM. You can make a case but is it really a good move?

It is not Artest's fault but HOU blew up the year he was there. He seems to be bad carma. Let hope so for the Lakers.

Outsider | 6:16 p.m. July 2, 2009

yea,why don`t we "boycott" again,that really worked,there were 17,000 people at the game,moron...keep Millsap,get rid of miles,I mean diaper boy,go after Ariza or Odom,GO SLOAN,GO JAZZ!!!!!!!!!

OKC may want to | 6:22 p.m. July 2, 2009

think about the idea that they needlessly ran up the price of CJ. Now they are messing with the Jazz on Millsap. Durant, Westbrook, Green and Sefolosha have contracts coming up in the future.

Utah could run the price of one or more of them up in free agency? What you send out comes back. OKC will not always be under the cap.

wow | 7:09 p.m. July 2, 2009

Lakers just got artest... it doesn't matter what the jazz do this off season.

We are going to lose regardless.

GoodGuyGary | 7:19 p.m. July 2, 2009

5 years for 40-45 Millions sounds right to me.

People keep saying he is under size. But for the numbers he is getting, he really worth that much of money.

Ostertag was at the "right" size, and what did he do to the Jazz?

Keep in mind | 7:46 p.m. July 2, 2009

that Millsaps numbers are inflated because he is playing PF in the Jazz system. Boozer's numbers will drop when he leaves. AKs numbers dropped about 25% when he moved to SF.

Millsap may not be the super star a lot of people think he is.

NOTE TO DN YOUR DISPLAY OF THESE COMMENTS IS FOULED UP

people are adding comments but they are not displaying.

Shaybo | 8:20 p.m. July 2, 2009

Sloan's weakness: he can't tolerate young players and totally prefers a poor veteran over a bright young prospect as in a point guard I had never heard of over DW, Hart over Price, Knight over Price and Collins over Fez and Koufus he has always been that way and That is why they are almost always good but never get over the top.

Miles | 8:47 p.m. July 2, 2009

Millsap is a good player. Not an elite player nor a superstar. Good players make no more than 5 million a year. Elite players make 10 - 12 Million and Superstars make all a team can pay which is what Larry did signing AK. You dont pay Millsap more than 5-6 million or you psy for it in the long run. When a player receives or demands more than his value you let him walk. Use the Yankees as an example. They overpay for everyone and lately hasn't paid any dividends. Pay the value and nothing more.

Dana | 11:18 p.m. July 2, 2009

I believe that Sloan is a very good coach but can understand the need for change that some feel. However, are those who are calling for a change from Sloan willing to admit if his replacement doesn't improve the team that they were wrong? I wil cetainly be willing to admit I am wrong if he is replaced next year and the team takes off under another system. After all, calling for change just for changes sake can lead to worse problems as we are seeing in politics.

Millsap is not holding up trades | 11:39 a.m. July 3, 2009

I dont think the jazz are going to do anything until they know whether or not they are going to keep millsap around. They cant go out and make a boozer trade and then have millsap skip town; that puts us without a PF. They're waiting to see if millsap leaves so we can keep boozer, or if we can match an offer and pawn boozer off to someone else. Hopefully someone will make Millsap an offer soon so we can react and then figure out what we're going to do trade-wise. I would have to imagine they are trying to get boozer off the books because he costs so much. They are in no rush because they dont have to pay the luxury tax until the end of next year, so they aren't going to make any rash moves 2 days into the Free Agency, when they dont know what is going to happen with millsap. Looks like we're gonna have to wait even longer for the Jazz to make some trades. I'm positive they will, but to do it right now would be a very bad idea.

Anonymous | 1:15 p.m. July 3, 2009

Milsap is a good player, but he disappeared in the playoffs. I can't think of anyone on the Jazz team who's going to take us to a championship. Boozer isn't the caliber of player who can do that. He's too soft. The Jazz need to look elsewhere for some strong defensive players.

louisiana jazz man | 1:49 p.m. July 3, 2009

if kirlinko worth 16 mil boz worth 12 milsap worth more than either of them. what is the problem paying him 10 mil? worked his butt off playing hurt the rest sitting on the bench hurt , for 700.000. now time to pay the piper. if i was any team in the nba i would be trying to sign him for 10 mil. his hard work alone is worth that. in about a year or two with a coach he will be one of the top players in the nba preety good now at 700.000 had boz on the bench at the end of the games even before he got hurt. i havent seen anybody say boz not worth 12 mil. if he is milly worth 15 mil easy.

All other considerations aside | 2:24 p.m. July 3, 2009

Millsap: Authentic
Boozer: Fraudulent

If you have to choose between them, choose Millsap.

CJ3 | 2:32 p.m. July 5, 2009

Turkoglu will sign for around 10 mill. Paul Millsap on his level?

I don't think so.

On another note;
AK is FAR from the most overpaid player in the league. Jemaine O'Neal, anyone?

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