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Hatch calls BCS 'biased' in SI article

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Good | 6:38 p.m. July 2, 2009

You mean we won't text in our votes for who should be the next National Champion?

You mean that self-serving coaches and media personnel won't hold up score cards each week?

When the BCS elected to having a rating system determine its champion, college football became olympic diving.

Utah: 5.7, 5.5, 5.9, 5.8, 5.5 (Loser)
Florida: 6.0, 5.9, 6.0, 5.8, 5.6 (Winner)

It's that absurd.

Re: Sillyguy | 6:43 p.m. July 2, 2009

Isn't that the point? Even if a team in an automatic bid conference stinks it up--they still get the cash flow.

Aren't we just looking for an Equal Opportunity EmPLAYer here?

Scoobie | 6:53 p.m. July 2, 2009

REF: BYU Fan and REF: re:5:04

Don't worry boys the rivalry will take care of itself... it doesn't need a couple of friggen loudmouths to keep it going.

Amazing how a perfect oppurtunity to lay in some licks against the biggest Farce in Sports throughout the land and it turns into a bunch of pea brains arguing over T shirts and socialism

RISE and SHOUT..but only about Football and the BCS Please !!!!

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BD | 7:02 p.m. July 2, 2009

I would agree with BYU fan. And with all things being equal, BYU did not deserve the 1984 National Championship by going undefeated!!!! Oh, I am sorry, it was a split National Championship with Washington!

All football teams in the country deserve the right to play for the national championship regardless of their conference. The automatic bid teams and conferences have a gravy train to the $$$$ and the National Championship.

The BCS is big business. We are talking millions and millions of dollars if not approaching billions. BCS teams that are in major bowls get major TV time, major games, and major money. This should be available to all. I agree with Hatch, they broke up ATT and other groups, the BCS is not different!

Real Conference | 7:07 p.m. July 2, 2009

Hey real conference, what was the Pac 10's record against the Mountain West in football this past season. Your are showing your ignorance

re:re:re 5:04 | 7:14 p.m. July 2, 2009

Yeah, nobody outside Utah thought we should be National Champs. Nobodies like Dan Patrick and Jim Rome...

Re: Change the name | 7:35 p.m. July 2, 2009

I totally agree with you, but on the other hand over the years ND has earned their name and their status. They have proven they are not just a flash in the pan operation. 11 national championships, the four horsemen, Knute Rockne, The Gipper, Rudy, 7 Heisman trophy winners, all the great NFL players...They should get more condieration than Utah..

Senator Hatch | 7:40 p.m. July 2, 2009

I am a Utah fan.I obviously liked to have Utah in the BCS championship team last year.

However, Senator, this country is in need of much more serious legistrations.
Let's fight against the liberal, socialist agenda that Obama, Pelosy and Reid are pushing at full speed aiming to destroy this country.
Let's putting our efforts to vote for a more balanced House and Senate in 2010.

SoCalUtahFan

Re:Eyepatch | 8:08 p.m. July 2, 2009

Ya Utah would have beat Florida just like the Jazz should have beat the Lakers. Unfortunately there is a playoff in the NBA..

re:Join a Real conference | 8:45 p.m. July 2, 2009

Um, I wouldn't be posturing the Pac10 as the big bad conference you seem to think they are. The MWC pretty much spanked them last year--and that was even with the PAC-10 refs, who refuse to trade refs like pretty much every other conference in college football. As for the SEC, yeah, they're big and bad, and I've lived in football country (aka, "The South") and football really is life to many folks. But even our bottom dweller (Wyo) beat SEC's bottom dweller (Tenn) last year.

The point is that the Utes spent nearly the entire season ranked in the top 25, beat 4 top 25 teams and still weren't even considered for a national championship. If a team like that doesn't have a chance to claim a nat'l title, then the system is clearly messed up.

just business? | 8:52 p.m. July 2, 2009

Folks, college football should not be treated like every other for-profit business. Remember that these universities are taking public monies all the time. The BCS schools are actually great at generating $$ for their big sports, so much so that many of their other sporting activities are free (I know, I attended one such school). But to just say, "it's a business and must look at for it's bottom line," is to deny the spirit of sportsmanship that we've attempted to establish with PUBLIC $$ at PUBLIC universities. It's a bit disingenuous to ask to be treated like a business at one moment and charity the next.

jbra80 | 11:27 p.m. July 2, 2009

First of all, the real issue is the money. Do you realize how much these teams make? Not just the teams making the big bowls, but the BCS conference cellar-dwellers. All they have to do is field a team every year and they bring in millionsfor their university. Did they earn it? No! They somehow became a part of one of these mega-conferences years ago and have benefited ever since. Second, sure not every mid-major team can make it through the Big 12, but there are exceptions. Last years Utes probably could not have done it, but they should have had a shot. The Urban meyer team easily could have, that team was as good a team as there has been the last 10 years in college (and i'm a BYU fan). And what about the BSU team that beat OU. And last, how do they decide which conferences get an automatic bid? The Big East, really? Notre Dame, really? So if the NCAA can't make it right and the BCS refuses to change, who's job is it to oversee big business? When there is this much money involved, the government.

Scoobie | 7:02 a.m. July 3, 2009

Change the Name

One argument to your theory....there would be an asterik by the second Notre Dame...they are becoming quite popular in sports these days. Sorry for the put down on your illogical theory. I sincerely hope that there wasn't a Master's or a PHD riding on it. Good Luck with coming up with something substantial to replace it. You might try actually mentioning either Sen. Hatch or the BCS in your next attempt to say something meaningful. They are two essential elements of the article being discussed here. Focus and Perspective also.....in your case as well as many others they both need changing. The rivalry will take care of itself it doesn't take a bunch of BYU and UTEY misfits to keep it going.

BCS is a Monopoly | 9:55 a.m. July 3, 2009

In the beginning, College football was a "free enterprise" system. A small school in the midwest was allowed to compete and become known "Notre Dame". But college football evolved to where the “money” conferences “controlled” the college football scene. The NCAA National Championships were bestowed upon the survivor of the regular football season with the highest poll rankings (AP and UPI) after the bowl season was completed. The bowl assignments were awarded by conference collusions/contracts with certain bowls.

In 1984 BYU won the National Championship following the “rules of the game”. When given their choice, play National Champion BYU or score big bucks in the Orange Bowl; Washington followed the BCS model; "go for the money". It is always about the money; money and control.

Suddenly, it was a new world. The monopoly stewarts saw a new world on the horizon. They foresaw a free enterprise with TCU, Boise State, Utah, and BYU winning future national championships. They foresaw losing recruits, money, prestige, and power.

What to do? Their answer was to corner the market; create and control a monopoly; thus the BCS was born. Remember, when it acts and quacks like a duck (or a Monopoly); it is.

Anyone who has a pulse .. | 5:41 a.m. July 4, 2009

.. on the sports nation as a whole would understand that no one really cares or thinks what the BCS does is legit/fair. They polled 50 million+ people after the national championship game & most thought that the U deserved a shot or no champion was found, Surprised? College football is the only sport that has no legitimate champion. So no one really cares what happens at the end of the year. Its just a time to sit with your family and enjoy the break between christmas and new years.

So here's my list of top semi-legit to legit team sport championships based on polling from espn .. usa today and gallup polls.

1. NCAA Basketball - There is nothing better than watching the #1 ranked NCAA team loose.
2. NFL Football - Arizona Cardinals presence in the Super Bowl warrants #2 ranking.
3. NHL Hockey - putting all the best Russians on the Redwings is almost as bad as making a basketball team from the Dream team.
4. NBA Basketball - example of last years classic finals matchup of the Lakers-Celtics. This is why the NBA is 4 - rigged officiating.
5. Last - MLB World Series - Steroids .. need I say more.

Gretkzy | 7:50 a.m. July 4, 2009

it's about time. and Obama better come through on this campaign promise to install a playoff system or i am not voting for him when he wants re-election votes. come to think of it i probably won't vote for him anyway unless Palin is running against him.

Scoobie | 8:46 p.m. July 4, 2009

REF:BCS is a Monoply
Hey finally ...someone who actually knows and understands how the BCS Beast came to be. Yeaper...them Big New Years boys with their big multi million dollar TV contracts and the Big Ten...home of the BCS Brain Child.... didn't like having their long Standing traditons of National Championships broken and taken away from them by some little team out of the Rockies. Especially when they did it in a podunk little stadium in San Diego on the 27th of December and not on New Years Day.

If you don't think the BCS is a monopolistic conspiracy especially after seeing Utah twice and Boise State not even arguably considered for a shot at the National title...then you are either really slow on the uptake or you are total apathetic morons content to just slurp up what little gravy the BCS purposfully spills on their dirty floors so that they can laugh at you and watch you slobber and drool while you're licking it up......Some token of respect !!! ......But if you're content with that...then hey...what can I say.

Scoobie | 9:31 p.m. July 4, 2009

REF:BD 7:02 July 2, 2009

You've got to be joking...you can't possibly be serious saying what it appears you are saying. You can't really be that uninformed. There was no such thing as a split National Championship with Washington in 1984. Both the writers and the coaches unanimously gave BYU the nod. Washington turned down the oppurtunity to play BYU in the Holiday bowl...opting instead for the bigger New Years day paycheck playing Oklahoma...they were fully made aware and ignored the possibility that if BYU remained undefeated that the National Championship might easily slip from their hands or from Oklahoma's....they went for the money instead...and they were fully aware of the possibility... Oklahoma was tied to thier bowl they didn't have a choice...but Washington did. The rest of the country was not aware of nor even remotely even thought of the long standing traditions being broken....but they were...and it was because of the 1984 Championship... still the only NCAA Div I Football Championship not played in either the Rose the Sugar, the Orange or the newest Power bowl the Fiesta.

Re: Swiftouch | 9:56 p.m. July 4, 2009

uhhhhh....what??? us utahns (and people of idaho, apparently) are not after a BCS bowl game in our states. We are after our states' universities (Utah, Boise State, BYU, others...) to be in bowl games. Thanks

Ben | 7:19 a.m. July 6, 2009

Good for him- When Duke, Syracuse and Northwestern get 10 times the amount of money per year that BYU, Boise, ECU do something is wrong. It is an anti-trust violation b/c these crappy teams get millions of dollars per year to rebuild facilities etc. while the great teams from other conferences get shafted. The revenue should be shared equally amongst the D1 conferences with equal access to the playoff or BCS, 8 or 16 team playoff. Every other decent team could play in a bowl game. It would not destroy the bowls. The BCS is as anti-trust as it gets, face the facts. It should be destroyed

Scoobie | 9:42 a.m. July 6, 2009

REF: Ben

I totally agree with the anti trust issue but you will never see a 16 team playoff. The Networks and the Major Bowls will tie the courts up in a tangled web of litigation if you try to eliminate the Confernce ties to the major bowls. The Networks alone will pour money into the issue because they stand to lose the most on their exclusive contracts with the 4 Major Bowls, the Big Conferences and Select teams. They're not going to stand by and let that happen... they have too many really big sponsors and a lot of Sponsor money that do not want to see a playoff system forced.

The easiest and best thing is to force the BCS to adequately address the issue of Undefeated Non BCS teams that are not given a shot at the Championship. It's a glaring issue and needs to be addressed now. If there is even one undefeated non BCS team then it should get to either playoff against the #2 for the chance to play the #1 ranked BCS team or the #4 team at the end of Regular season play if you have a 4 team playoff.

George | 11:36 a.m. July 7, 2009

The senator has had the courage to say, "The king has no clothes." Go after the money grubbers.

Anonymous | 1:18 p.m. Oct. 21, 2009

wah wah wah big crybaby!

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