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Utah leaner in too-fat country

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Naruto | 9:25 a.m. July 1, 2009
Time to create a new sin tax. One imposed on junk food! How about a three cent tax on every pint of ice cream sold in Utah. that ought to balance the budget!
Anonymous | 9:32 a.m. July 1, 2009
I've been to Utah and I've never seen fatter people anywhere.
Anonymous | 9:46 a.m. July 1, 2009
How about the CDC declaring a pandemic? Obesity is far more serious than a handful of flu deaths. Or Obama appointing a "fat czar" to fix things up?

Anonymous, I don't think you're correct. We went to Disneyland and it looked to me like everybody there was obese.

I'm not sure I understand how anyone could tolerate weighing 300-400 pounds. Somebody explain this to me.
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Double Standard | 9:53 a.m. July 1, 2009
As I read this article I found it ironic how easily health and government officials will state with confidence that diseases that are linked to obesity are 100% preventable with diet and exercise (self control), but when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases nobody will make similar statement on how they are 100% preventable by simply abstaining from sexual activity (self control).

What a very, very odd double standard.
Annie | 9:57 a.m. July 1, 2009
How about incentives for farmers, food-production companies, and fast food restaurants to produce healthy foods? And a tax on foods full of sugar, fat, and preservatives?

And if we're going to a national health care plan, how about higher rates/fees for those who don't take care of themselves, who are above the healthy body fat limits? But please don't base it on weight. When I was at my lowest body fat index, I was technically overweight because muscle weighs more than fat.

Perhaps government-backed gym memberships and funds to improve outdoor activity areas like hike & bike trails?
Skinny | 10:07 a.m. July 1, 2009
If you're LDS, you believe your body is a temple. Treat it that way.

Amazing how many people will turn up their noses at a caffeinated drink, but don't hesitate to consume copious amounts of trans fat. Think about it.
GWB | 10:10 a.m. July 1, 2009
Anonymous, while your suggestion that the CDC declare obesity a "pandemic" is right minded in trying to emphasize the critical nature of the problem.

However, the proper term is epidemic, a pandemic is an epidemic of global nature, and that clearly does not describe the situation.

In fact, the US is the only country in the world where obesity can be considered an epidemic. No where else do people sit around on their butts, drive a quarter mile down the street to the 7-11 to get a triple-gulp and eat the fattiest big mac they can find. No, this is a problem unique to lazy American's.
been around | 10:11 a.m. July 1, 2009
To 1st anonymous:
I've been all over country and it appears that the south and mid-west have the most really fat people. Utah appears to be one of the thinner states. That said, poor eating habits and heavy alcohol consumption everywhere in the US are fattening us all up.
mirgatroid | 10:13 a.m. July 1, 2009
I guess no one has ever considered economics as a contributing factor to obesity.
re:double standard  | 10:20 a.m. July 1, 2009
kudos.

I also love the ignorant statements that there are no fatter people anywhere than in Utah. Brilliant. That person must have only lived in two places, the amazon jungle and Utah.
re: Double Standard | 10:21 a.m. July 1, 2009
"As I read this article I found it ironic how easily health and government officials will state with confidence that diseases that are linked to obesity are 100% preventable with diet and exercise (self control), but when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases nobody will make similar statement on how they are 100% preventable by simply abstaining from sexual activity (self control).

What a very, very odd double standard."

Actually, its not a double standard at all. Healthy diet and exercise doesn't mean you can never eat unhelathy food, it just means you should do so in moderation and exercise to offset the unhealthy food. You know, enjoy the activity while taking preventive steps to avoid health problems.
C.W. | 10:22 a.m. July 1, 2009
Sounds like its time to get the "health police" involved!! A couple of weeks ago they were going on and on about smokers being the cause of our high health care costs! I guess it turned out (as I thought) that not that many people smoke in Utah, but there are A LOT of overweight folks.

I agree with "double standard" above, STD's, smoking, obesity, are ALL preventable but the BIG QUESTION is: can we figure out a way to tax them like the smokers?
Agree | 10:28 a.m. July 1, 2009
Double standard hit it right on the money. It is also interesting how the public school system (run by the government) allows junk food, soda, candy etc to be sold in the Jr. High and High Schools. What will most kids choose when they can spend their lunch money on soda and candy vs a sandwich and soup?
Not just Utah | 10:37 a.m. July 1, 2009
I lived in Utah all my life, and moved to Missouri six years ago, I was shocked by how many fat people there are here.

Sadly, I am one of them, as is my husband and his family. I put on my weight when I had my one and only child, never lost it. Now that I am 55 and have aches and pains, I am starting to see how this affects me. My husband and his family are all much heavier and I am telling his kids to try to do something now, cause it will affect them later.

Today is my new years day and I am starting back on the treadmill and all the goodies are gone. Will I get thin, no, but I can lessen myself a little.

But people, I have asthma, and can't be around smokers, but I do not look down on them. Don't look down on me because I am fat and don't think that I am not healthy, I pretty much am for the most part.
Hatuletoh | 10:45 a.m. July 1, 2009
I second that, "been around". Wisconsin and Iowa have MUCH fatter people in general. The little woman and I look like a couple of Nordic gods when we walk through the streets of Milwaukee or Council Bluffs.

To "Double Standard": your sophist anaology actually makes a better case for comprehensive sex education.

Allow me to demonstrate: we know that people should abstain from all unhealthy foods, but their biological urges cause them frequently to fail in that endeavor. So the best thing we can do for is to educate and equip them with strategies to be healthier, i.e., exercise and moderation; stressing all the while that the only way to completely mitigate the risk of obesity is to become a vegetarian distance runner. Knowing, of course, that many people will fall short of that lofty ideal and require from us the knowledge to maintain a degree of safer moderation.

Unassailable, no?
WHy? | 10:51 a.m. July 1, 2009
While Utah is statistically on the better side on this study, it does seem by observation that we have people who are fit and people who are fat with no much in the middle. Why is that?
re: Anonymous  | 10:52 a.m. July 1, 2009
Clearly you've never been to Mississippi.
Anonymous | 10:58 a.m. July 1, 2009
I'm a liberal. I don't believe in a food "sin tax." What next, state run food stores? We could have meters on coke bottles like the meters used in bars in Utah. The nanny state gets old. I saw this living in Utah.

People need to learn about FOOD Inc. Learn about a food system that has lobbied congress to hide what's in our food, where and now our food is processed.

Why are we letting arsenic in chicken or carbon monoxide in beef? Show the public how much corn sweeteners are used in our foods.

It's against the laws of 19 states to speak against the food industry. You can be sued for questioning whether you are reconsidering eating e coli laced burgers.

You can have a healthy kid on day and a dead child 12 days later all because feeding beef corn increases the amount of e coli in beef. Feeding beef grass seven days before processing would help mitigate this.

The government can't recall meat. The processors must. These republican laws that put big corporations over American lives need changing. Who will pay the medical costs of the American diet?
FAT | 10:59 a.m. July 1, 2009
I have always loved all the skinny people telling fat people how easy it is to be skinny. Always good for a "Big Belly" laugh from me.
word of wisdom | 11:18 a.m. July 1, 2009
From Elder Hales April 2009 conference address.
"Today I speak to all whose freedom to choose has been diminished by the effects of ill-advised choices of the past. I speak specifically of choices that have led to excessive debt and addictions to food, drugs, pornography, and other patterns of thought and action that diminish one’s sense of self-worth. All of these excesses affect us individually and undermine our family relationships... Unfortunately however, additional debt is incurred when we cannot control our wants and addictive impulses. And for both debt and addiction, the hopeful solution is the same–we must turn to the Lord and follow His commandments." wonder when food addictions/lifestyle choices that result in obesity will be a temple recommend question.
not rocket science | 11:23 a.m. July 1, 2009
Fat laden, high calorie, unhealthy food is cheap and easy.

Healthy, organic quality food costs more and requires effort.
Forgotten Man | 11:44 a.m. July 1, 2009
I was amazed at the theater last week how many really overweight people there were. I can easily believe the statistic.

Why not start treating obesity for what it is? It's an addiction to food. Church leaders lament alcohol, tobacco, drugs, porn, etc. but don't talk about destructive behavior when it comes to food. Yes, some people are more susceptible to obesity than others, but isn't that true for all forms of addiction?
THEeyepatch | 11:50 a.m. July 1, 2009
When you have fast-food on about every corner, grocery stores packed with fatty treats open 24 hours a day, snacks replacing breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It's easy to see that obesity could be a problem.
Evets | 11:50 a.m. July 1, 2009
Having lived all over the US and abroad I can certainly tell you that Utah is no where near the fattest state. Those that name the south are on target. Now considering other countries...well as American food has become popular those populations are also getting fatter.
I worked for decades on Health Behavior/Preventive Medicine as a federal employee. It all comes down to one's internal locus of control (one has to WANT to be healthy). Rules and laws and taxes do little to change health behavior. Each person must really want to be healthy or lose weight or whatever. Then they can achieve it.
Another thing health is not always directly tied to weight (BMI). I know of many people with higher BMI's that get proper exercise and eat right that are in much better condition that the average or lower BMI person that doesn't live an otherwise healthy life style.
All I am saying is that it is not as simple as many of you are trying to make it. Weight does not always equate to health and there is no one answer to the whole health question.
Scott | 11:52 a.m. July 1, 2009
Obesity costs society many, many magnitudes of order more money then illegal aliens..

I think we should deport "fat legals".
Fat People | 11:55 a.m. July 1, 2009
"Skinny" hit it right on. Utah has a funny sense about looking at alcohol and tobacco with scrutiny while at the same time jamming McDonald's, Krispy Kreme and Chuck A Rama in the face everyday is common practice.
I think you're better off being a consistant user of chew, weed, or an occasional drink than a fat pig that can't control yourself when around food.
Call me a jerk but I can't stand looking at fat people. It's like looking at someone wearing dirty clothes and hasn't bathed in weeks, it's disgusting
No job? Have another drumstick | 12:14 p.m. July 1, 2009
How can America be getting fatter during an economic recession? The recession is forcing people around the world to eat rice and beans. But in America, we're getting fatter.

Either the recession isn't as bad as they say, or the stimulus bill must be working better than we thought...
Anonymous | 12:15 p.m. July 1, 2009
re: Anonymous | 9:46 a.m. July 1, 2009

//I'm not sure I understand how anyone could tolerate weighing 300-400 pounds. Somebody explain this to me.//

I wish I could this is a real head scratcher.

Do most people have no sense of moderation or shame?

Seriously, Its impossible to avoid High Fructose Corn syrup and Hydrogenated vegetable oils but I make sure they are way down on list of ingredients if I do get something w/ those chemicals.
Poor Food Quality | 12:31 p.m. July 1, 2009
I strongly feel that a very large factor in the obesity of Americans is sharp drop in the quality of our food supply. While genetic engineering and super-farms have made huge profits by filling our grocery stores with eye-appealing "health" foods, the health part of these foods has been in serious decline over the past two decades.

Fresh produce sold in grocery stores today have 20-50% LESS nutitional value than they did twenty years ago. From the evidence I've seen, American's have to eat considerably more today than they did in the past just to recieve the same basic nutirition. Sadly, even eating "health" in our country isn't what is used to be. Having to eat 30% more of the good/health foods will seriously undermine anyones efforts to stay fit and thin.
Dear No job... | 12:39 p.m. July 1, 2009
Next time you are at the grocery store, do a little price comparison - which is cheaper:

Canned soup or the ingredients to make soup at home?
Ground chicken or ground beef?
Hamburger Helper or the ingredients to make a baked chicken dinner?
Snack cakes or fresh fruit?
Soda or juice?

Now, which of those options are healthier?

One more factor to add in: You have 1 hour between jobs to fix dinner and feed the family - which options fit into that time constraint?

It is cheaper and faster to eat unhealthy, fattening food - which is why so many living in or near poverty have health problems.

Oh, now pretend you live in a poor neighborhood and go exercise at either 5 am (before you have to get the kids up) or at 11 pm (after the kids are in bed and the dishes done).
lost in DC | 12:48 p.m. July 1, 2009
if only the ill effects of obesity were confined to the obese. unfortunately they drive up health care costs for all of us, so they are hurting more people than just themselves. they also pass bad habits on to their children and perpetuate the problem. help them if they'll accept it. Do we cover the increased cost of health care by an additional tax on unhealcthy foods?

How much less fuel would we have used in the last 20 years hauling around less weight if we didn;t have an obesity epidemic? probably enough to fuel Al Gore's palace for a month or two.
on the other hand | 12:55 p.m. July 1, 2009
It's great to be fat. It's easier to diagnos your medical problems. If you're skinny and in shape, all the doctor can do is scratch his head.
Anonymous | 1:03 p.m. July 1, 2009
I'm a 47 y.o. male, 5'11" and tip the scale at 165 lbs. It takes time and effort to stay physically fit and stay active. Genetic or not.

The struggle I have with living with the "Saints" here in utah is the same sin as the Pharisees - "Hypocrisy".

But, you should hear the screams of WoW violator for my occasional Coke on a hot summer day [not an addiction].
Or my enjoying a walk or short hike in the foot-hills with my wife on a Sunday afterchurch [breaking the Sabbath].

The real issue is the attention given to one behavior, while completely turning a blind eye to a much bigger problem by some LDS Church leaders.

No-one wants to acknowledge the Elephants in the Room!

(sorry, this is one hit a nerve and is a real sore spot for me....)
Funny thing, | 1:09 p.m. July 1, 2009
These are the same people telling me that drinking is bad, I have 7% body fat and a resting heart rate of 38 beats per minute, who is healthier? Maybe they should modify the word of wisdom a bit, eh?
Am I a Bleeding Heart Liberal | 1:34 p.m. July 1, 2009
My family and I are considered Wacks because of our lifestyle...
I ride a bike (to stay healthy and reduce emissions),
We grow my own organic fruits and vegatables,
We produce our own heat and electricity,
and we recycle whenever and wherever possible.

It's not convienent, and we are mocked constantly by our neighbors...but we do it becase it blesses us physically, emotionally and spiritually.

[P.S. ...yes, we're liberal "thinkers", LDS and living in Utah]
The WoW needs an ammendment | 1:44 p.m. July 1, 2009
The WoW needs an ammendment! No matter how much you take care of yourself through good diet/exercise, if you have one sip of tea (or wine)once a year you are not considered worthy of the temple. But hey, if you are obese and are killing yourself through bad diet and lack of exercise - no worries, you are still considered fully worthy of the temple...just as long as you don't drink that hot tea!!! Obesity wasn't a problem when the WoW was introduced - today it is, that's why it needs an ammendment.
anonymous | 2:04 p.m. July 1, 2009
maybe the government should give a refundable tax credit for adults earning less than 50k a year and a nonrefundable tax credit for those earning over 50k per year. say make the credit 50.00 times 12 months. so 600 bucks. this would be for gym memberships. reward good behavior.
Look Again  | 2:12 p.m. July 1, 2009
THe WoW does not need an amendment. Moderation in all things!
Richard | 2:16 p.m. July 1, 2009
The most confusing thing is that it is a scientifically proven fact that red wine, which contains resveratrol. And black tea with its antioxidants and green tea which is even better than black tea with its cancer preventing antioxidant. These things are looked down upon, but a 2000 calorie hamburger is not. Honestly I agree with most of you, we here in utah need to take a serious look at what we believe to be health and good for the body.
Anonymous | 2:23 p.m. July 1, 2009
muat be all of te funeral potatoes and green jello.
Correction | 2:26 p.m. July 1, 2009
For you who don't attend LDS Church meetings and are quick to criticise the Church, I might mention that the Church DOES speak out against obesity and SPEAK speak for exercise and fitness. Please, show the same compassion for your Mormon neighbors that you expect them to show to you.

For you who think losing weight is easy or that there are quick fixes, I might mention that a huge body (pun intended) of research on the subject shows that obesity is an extremely complex problem, involving genetics, biochemical, social, and environmental issues. Please, show some compassion for those who obese.
Anonymous | 2:32 p.m. July 1, 2009
re: Richard | 2:16 p.m. July 1, 2009

I agree. Though, I do love a good burger from Carl's Jr and Green Tea.

re: Dear No job... | 12:39 p.m. July 1, 2009

You can eat better. You just need to be more studious and picky. Of course, eating more fiber and drinking more water would not hurt either.

re: Look Again | 2:12 p.m. July 1, 2009

Exactly.
38? | 2:43 p.m. July 1, 2009
38 is pretty low. I'd be happy with 50
Speaking out against obesity | 2:48 p.m. July 1, 2009
isn't enough. It's time to change the word of wisdom to incorporate the new rules. It's the only way to really change people's behavior in this state.
Candace | 2:54 p.m. July 1, 2009
Just wanted to add my two cents to the comments about BMI--I wear (depending on the store) between a size 4 and 8, exercise 6 days a week ( 2 with a personal trainer) and watch what I eat and my BMI shows me as overweight. I agree we all need to be vigilant about our health so as not to be trapped by our own behaviors--by the way I have some time today to write this as the movers are here packing my house for my move to none other than Mississippi--I wonder if this discussion is taking place there!
Bandit | 2:57 p.m. July 1, 2009
We are a lazy, slothful society and we are shortening our kids' life expectancies. I am 1000% in favor of taxes on something besides booze and cigarettes.
Diapers come to mind real quick.
Choices | 3:04 p.m. July 1, 2009
To Fat - Skinny people are the way they are because they work at it. Very few people can eat what they want and stay skinny, alot of us have to eat things in moderation and exercise to maintain the weight we want. To everyone it's a choice - you can choose to exercise and eat moderately and maintain a good weight or you can choose to eat what you want and not exercise and be overweight. We need to stop blaming society and accept responsibility for the choices we make.
al | 3:05 p.m. July 1, 2009
Ice cream is not the only offending "food", low income families stuff out on white bread, rice, macaroni and cheese and then there are the basic staples of the American diet: Sugar, grease, salt, and more of the same. And students today get driven everywhere. Then it's funny to watch their parents drive to their heath clubs to exercise!
Crown Burger | 3:06 p.m. July 1, 2009
Can I get an extra large Coke with that double cheese burger? Each of us make our own choice what we choose to eat. The key is moderation in all things. I would love to eat at Crown everyday, but I would not be happy weighing over 200 pounds.

to Crown Burger | 3:19 p.m. July 1, 2009
"Moderation in all things"???? That statement has never made sense. Let's be moderate in kindness, caring, and moderate in eating nitrates and carcinogins and using the radiation oven, er... micrwave.

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