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These board are irrelevant | 10:27 a.m. June 30, 2009

because they are skewed by at least two things: (1) liberals who are paid to sit around and fill these commend boards with liberal tripe; and (2) moderators who delete enough conservative comments to make it appear that readers are on average more liberal than they are; and (3) conservatives have real jobs.

These boards are irrelevant | 10:28 a.m. June 30, 2009

because they are skewed by at least three things: (1) liberals who are paid to sit around and fill these commend boards with liberal tripe; and (2) moderators who delete enough conservative comments to make it appear that readers are on average more liberal than they are; and (3) conservatives have real jobs.

wrz | 10:40 a.m. June 30, 2009

"Stop anti-Obama letters"

Where were you when the DN printed the relentless demonetization of Dubya posts?

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All Knowing | 10:45 a.m. June 30, 2009

@Anonymous 5:12 a.m. "Are we really still worried about Obama's birth certificate?"

Yes, because if he is not a natural born citizen he is an interloping illegal alien and has no right to be in the White house... according to the US constitution which he has sworn to uphold.

sutton | 10:45 a.m. June 30, 2009

Hey!!! Im a liberal, spreading liberal tripe... Why ain't I gettin' paid for this!!!

@sutton | 11:52 a.m. June 30, 2009

Haven't you heard, you don't need to get paid for anything any more... the compassionate government will take care of your every need. Just vote for Obama.

Anonymous | 12:01 p.m. June 30, 2009

There are two types of people.
1. Those unafraid of change and look after the greater good.
2. Conservatives

Reason | 12:15 p.m. June 30, 2009

Im a Republican. I liked some things about Pres. Bush, and was extremely disappointed about others. But with Pres. Obama, Im not just disappointed, Im concerned for the survival of our country. Contrary to the assertion in a letter from yesterday, Obama is a Marxist. He is anti-Constitution, anti-capitalism, and anti-freedom.

His policies and programs, regardless of what he SAYS, are prolonging our economic problems and tearing down the strength of this once-great nation. I for one hope that many more people will write letters that are civil but harshly critical of President Obama, so that more and more people will wake up and be honest with themselves about the serious threat posed by this man.

re: Reason | 12:52 p.m. June 30, 2009

This neocon obviously has his political parties confused.
Either that or short-term memory has set in and has spaced the last 8 years away.

rejection from America | 1:15 p.m. June 30, 2009

Stop anti-Obama letters?
Naw.
Keep 'em coming.
Each day in every way America can take a better look at the far-right and reject these Limbaughites easier and easier each time.

@Anonymous | 5:12 a.m. | 1:37 p.m. June 30, 2009

And there are still Obama propaganda promoters like you who want to deflect attention from this Constitutional outrage?

Either grow a spine and defend the Constitution or move to Red China or North Korea where you can worship experienced dictators who are also above the law.

Instead of me moving on you should just move out of the way so those of us who still understand the purpose and importance of the Constitution can defend it without having to carry dead weight like you on our backs who want to ride the wave of freedom for free.

@Gus Talwynd | 9:47 a.m. | 1:43 p.m. June 30, 2009

A small but growing minority of INFORMED ELECTORATE unlike the blind dumbed down majority who couldn't find their backside with both hands using GPS navigation.

They are the hypnotized lemmings who continue to take in and then regurgitate the lies streaming from the propaganda box.

MJH79 | 2:09 p.m. June 30, 2009

Welcome to the club-8 years of "I hate Bush letters," constant idiotic editorials from the SLTrib and others, and these forums. The fact that Obama and his staff/henchman are clueless morons only makes them easy pickings for those with any common sense.

To Luke | 2:10 p.m. June 30, 2009

Are you seriously asking the DN to censor our right of free speech, if you dont happen to agree with someone who thinks differently than you? Maybe you should subscribe to Pravda. I am a conservative and I do not like the direction that Obama is taking our country but never during the Bush years did I ever advocate that leftist thinking (or other viewpoints with which I do not agree) should be suppressed. I am presently serving my second deployment to the Middle East. I have sworn to uphold the constitution and to obey the orders of the President. I will follow those orders to the best of my ability, but that does not mean that I have to agree. As a nation it is good thing that we can respectfully disagree. I would hope that Luke would carefully reconsider his position.

to: anonymous 12:52am | 2:35 p.m. June 30, 2009

Because the D-News is owned by part of that radical fringe.

@1:43 p.m. | 2:59 p.m. June 30, 2009

So, are you using your 'socially progressive', informed electorate as an excuse for spewing vitriolic sludge against 59,934,814+ of us who thankfully have different views than yours, and the constitutional right to express these views?

Why is it so hard for the stalinist (aka: ussa) groupies to wrap their heads around this communistic ideology and quit blaming the Deseret News, Hannity, Limbaugh and any other contrary view points? What are you so afraid of....being WRONG, probably youre more concerned about being exposed for who you really are, USSA?

Why do you continue arguing against the Stalinist, (ussa) views you are so PROUD to defend?

Perhaps stopping, before you click on the 'Add your comment', and read what you write, will help alleviate some of the anger when there are contrary opinions expressed. Be more assertive in expressing your stalinist (ussa) views and less defensive when we challenge your abusive superior intellect!

re: these board (sic) are ... | 3:40 p.m. June 30, 2009

"moderators delete conservative comments"

Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your life it will creep.
It starts when you're always afraid.
Step out of line - the man comes and takes you away.

I can't tell you how bad I feel for these poor, deluded, paranoids on the Right. Their neocon leaders (Rush O'Hannity) has them right where they want them.

The Obama Birth Certificate | 4:06 p.m. June 30, 2009

Barry still hasn't produced a birth certificate! Why? Because he doesn't have one proving he is a natural born citizen, if he has one at all! If he had a birth certificate proving he is a natural born citizen, he would have provided it by now!
Barry is an illegitimate president!!! Come on Barry, PROVE ME WRONG!!!!

Anonymous | 4:19 p.m. June 30, 2009

Keep the anti-Obama letters flowing.
Makes it that much easier at the voting booth in 4 years.

Oh Puleez! | 4:44 p.m. June 30, 2009

Remember all the despicable things that were said about Bush? And Clinton? And every other politician walking the planet? Why should Obummer be immune?? What makes him so all-fired special that he should be treated any differently than any other recent president has been? You want to play with the big boys, be prepared to take some big hits. Or stay out of Dodge in the first place. Obama and the author of this letter should both BUCK UP.

re: These board @10:27 | 4:51 p.m. June 30, 2009

"moderators delete conservative comments"
Nobody ever said conservatives aren't full-blown paranoids!
LOL!

John C. | 5:06 p.m. June 30, 2009

So let me get this right... it's alright to write all sorts of negative comments on President Bush while he was in office and now even when he is gone. But people can't write what they feel about President Obama and his actions thus fare in his presidency. You people just don't see the double standard you are setting.

what the ...? | 5:08 p.m. June 30, 2009

"Every time you write you are sure to attack someone, and then you cry because an individual expresses a different viewpoint."

Who is this neocon whining about?
Limbaugh?
Hannity?
Beck?
All of the above?

noah | 5:19 p.m. June 30, 2009

?????

BigPoet | 5:25 p.m. June 30, 2009

Obama's Birth Certificate:

Am I worried about it--yes. But I'm more worried by hoards of people who think it's okay to ignore the constitution because is so full of old silly rules. Those are the real Nimrods.

RE: An Observer | 5:49 p.m. June 30, 2009

Leave it to liberals,

to attack free speech,

and to want to silence critics,

and silence the voice of opposition.

Re: OK Luke | 6:04 p.m. June 30, 2009

OK, but if he did produce a "valid" birth certificate, wingnuts like you would immediately proclaim it to be a fake and the craziness would continue. Obama has more than established the credentials necessary to show that he is a natural-born citizen and if you choose not to accept it, that's not his problem. Thankfully, the President has better things to do than jump through your hoops.

David | 6:12 p.m. June 30, 2009

"Would you like some cheese with that whine? What you call " ridiculous letters " from " lunatics " is actually truth from highly intelligent individuals."

It's a sad day when lies are praised as truth and utter stupidity is praised as intelligence. But that's the Right for you.

Anonymous | 6:24 p.m. June 30, 2009

"hoping and pray that Obama makes the right decisions?" I don't think that is what the Founding Fathers intended particularly when you consider this quote" the government should be afraid of its people"

Liberal Whiners | 6:28 p.m. June 30, 2009

Are these the same whiners who blamed everything on Bush? And then they praise Obama for being Bush x5. Same stuff just a tortoise instead of a hare. Pick your poison it's cancer or AIDS we deal with as president when we choose Democrat or Republican.

Jake Starkey | 6:43 p.m. June 30, 2009

Permit, of course, all comments, including those from the conservative right, the proponents of which are often neither.

Only in an informed democracy can we make good policy and elect good leaders.

Real Americans took back Real America last November. The ultrarights are only continuing to make themselves irrelevant to the process.

Anonymous | 7:49 p.m. June 30, 2009

To the DN editor. Why not delete all posts you don't agree with?

Jason | 8:55 p.m. June 30, 2009

We call him as we see him Luke ol boy. With this guy in charge, our country is on the road to disaster.

Mark B | 9:36 p.m. June 30, 2009

I personally am tired of the letters to DN that have almost no content, but specialize in gratuitous insults and bizarre misspellings of the President's name. They should have ended months ago.

People are free to put anything they want in their letters. DN, however, is under no obligation, Constitutional or other, to PRINT them. Some posters here confuse the right to free speech with the "right to be published in the paper", which doesn't exist. In other words, letters should have content other than name-calling.

BTW, I am not being paid to write this, as MR. 10:27 might have you believe.

Motto | 3:53 a.m. July 1, 2009

Reminder of Motto For the Republicans in 2009..

Stop the Whine in 2009.

I think too many republicans misunderstood the "stop" as "start"

Start the Whine in 2009.

TPaine | 8:29 a.m. July 1, 2009

Luke, Luke, Luke. I can hear you now, "Please stop! The letters against Obama hurt me! This is so unfair! I don't know how to stop reading them! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! I mean it!"

Gag. Here's a suggestion for you: go to Home Depot (or Lowes, whatever), buy a ladder, and get over it.

No surprise! | 8:46 a.m. July 1, 2009

Just like the left to demand censorship of all competing views!

So when do the book burnings, computer smashing, internet restrictions start?

BIG HEN | 9:15 a.m. July 1, 2009

What have YOU done for this country lately (or ever)?
As a veteran, it is funny to hear these DONE-NOTHINGS just sit behind a computer and complain.
President Obama is the President of these United States: help, deal with it or just leave & take your hater-rade with you.

Mark B | 9:44 a.m. July 1, 2009

two points: First, the type of letter that only contains factless accusations and silly name-calling has become boring. It should have ended months ago.

That brings us to the second point: Those who scream loudest about the Constitution seem to have the poorest understanding of how it actually works. It's true that you can legally put almost anything in your letter or post. But it's also true that Freedom of Speech is not the same as "Freedom to Have My Letter Published at Someone Else's Expense", which does not exist.

DN is under no obligation to publish anything that comes through the door. They should, in fact, use greater discernment to only publish letters and posts with actual content.

To the letter writer... | 10:33 a.m. July 1, 2009

I will stop, when you and the anti-repubs stop!!

Town Heathan | 10:33 a.m. July 1, 2009

Way to go DI sensor....

As usual you did not have the courage to publish my remarks about your unequil sensoring.

What's the matter...can't take the heat?

I in no way expect you to publish this, but just in the oddity case that you grow some courage...

Why are these types of articles always from the EXTREAM right wing? I swear you guys work for Rush Limbaugh!!! And yes... I think he's a wacko!!!

If you... | 10:57 a.m. July 1, 2009

…nominated and got elected three Presidents in or modern history that were so corrupt and so evil that they repeatedly set the benchmark for new lows in American History, what would you do?

President Nixon had Watergate, and now that his records are being declassified, we clearly see that he stalled the Vietnam Peace talks, allowing thousands more to be killed, simply to assure he reelection.

President Reagan had the Iran-Contra/Secret Government where he funded Nicaraguan “freedom fighters” that resulted in death squads killing thousands of innocent Guatemalans. …and then there’s his record with the AIDS epidemic, miltary overspending and national debt.

President Bush attacked a sovereign country, wages a war on science, and denied our role in global warming–all while declaring that he was God’s instrument. (Is Bush REALLY what your God intended for our country?)

With a track record like this, I would be ashamed too.

And thus, the Republicans are doing EVERYTHING they can to drag the Democrats down to their level.

No matter how loud your rants become, your own deplorable actions cannot taint Obama–just as you couldn't hurt Clinton, although not for your lack of trying.

Anonymous | 11:02 a.m. July 1, 2009

This daily litany of conservative hatred, fabrications and lies against Obama in this LDS Church owned news paper who has the venue were Hanity and Glen Beck are center stage. I see these letter as reflecting the conservative mind and the real political agenda of the LDS Church.

Anonymous | 11:17 a.m. July 1, 2009

I'm a Left Coast liberal. I'm against censorship. I believe our nation flourishes with a healthy market place of ideas. The other option: I've listened to Radio Havana, North Korea and Fox News. You have journalism and editorial speech. At Fox, they are one and the same.

Reading hate fulled diatribes is insightful. I try to surround myself with educated people. Reading what these conservatives write is a window into a land only Palin skillfully communicates.

It would be easy to condemn our educational system for failing to teach logic. You can take a horse to water. You can't make him drink.

I logically never could buy in to Bush. I still saw a likable guy. It was cool, seeing senor jumping out of a perfectly good air plane. I even saw humanity in W when his daughter was married.

With Obama, I read venom before he entered the presidency. I'm 56 and I have never seen the hatred I've seen directed against Obama.

If Obama was popular, they attacked his popularity. He's messianic. He was attacked for being articulate. It takes a conservative mind to turn good, bad.

Show Me The Money! | 11:34 a.m. July 1, 2009

I'm a liberal. How can I get paid for writing on these boards? I've never heard such a thing, but I would LOVE to make money off showing conservative dogmatic theists how ludicrous their blindness is.

PLEASE. Let me know how I can make money by posting on DN!

BigDave | 11:57 a.m. July 1, 2009

The Republicans and Democrats are just different sides of the SAME COIN! Neither represent me. I do not believe that the Founding Fathers ever anticipated that politician was ever going to be a career choice!

Anonymous | 12:08 p.m. July 1, 2009

These board are irrelevant | 10:27 a.m. Liberals on average earn 6% more than conservative earn. We work smarter, not harder.

You make a point here. This paper is far from liberal. Many of my more liberal views have been censored. You're flat wrong.

I agree, people who read tend to be more liberal. People with university degrees tend to be more liberal too. Do you see a trend here?

I stopped watching TV after witnessing what Fox News does to people's thinking. I didn't want to be fed only thing I agree with. What a shallow existence that would be. So, I read and research.

We can see the methodology. Marginalize anything you don't wish to believe. Any fact that collides with your thought, dismal as being liberal.

I'm the resident Left Coast liberal here. I read this conservative paper, the Drudge Report and I watched a few Fox News videos last night. I read Vanity Fair's 10,000 word article on Palin.

Mosts columnists liberal | 2:31 p.m. July 1, 2009

Control the media, say the liberals - and they do.

"These boards are irrelevant" goes 'ott' but I think is partly correct. There does seem to be a group of liberals, whether paid or not, who spend their whole time propagandizing. Their job seems to be a constant predictable attack on anything other that liberal democrat dogma, and especially the promotion of "gay rights" and irreligion generally. Their tactica are crude and their posts short, abusive and unintelligent.

They certainly do not represent most readers of the Deseret News, yet most journalists and columnists are liberals who are avidly pursuing this course of propagandising the masses. Fortunately Talk Radio presents a good foil to them.

One thing I ardently wish is that the Deseret News would hire a couple of conservative journalists to sometimes write editorials. I think the "Des News" has one or two Repubs, no clearly visible conservative. This is odd and alienating to a large section of Utah's people.

Thank goodness that we still have the Readers' Forum wo we can let off a little steam, and to provide a platform for conservative, constitutional views. This provides a little salt that has not yet lost its savor.

Anonymous | 4:33 p.m. July 1, 2009

Luke wrote: "There is almost no such thing as a true Republican, so why do so many of us still give our allegiance?"

Because, Luke, even a FORMER President is better than the moron in there now.....

Anonymous | 5:03 p.m. July 1, 2009

What our conservatives "Internet Challenged?" Obama birth cert was on the Net.

We live in a digital world today. This is way when I ordered a copy of my Birth Certificate I don't get an original like in the good old days of "Father Knows Best."

With the need to cut government costs, governments create text files. By text, I mean ASCII. In stead of paying many file clerks, you can enter dates of last names and query the system then print the document.

You would think when a Supreme Court with mostly republican appointed judges won't argument Obama's citizenship the case of over.

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