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Readers' forum: Stop anti-Obama letters

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Anonymous | 12:52 a.m. June 30, 2009
Thank You!, I've been wondering for a while why the D-news is giving a forum to the radical fringe of our society, the rhetoric is ridiculous.
OK Luke | 12:57 a.m. June 30, 2009
It was the PROMISE of Barrack Hussein Obama to implement a policy of transparency to the American people. Will you ask him to PLEASE produce a valid long form birth certificate to prove once and for all his natural born status qualifying him to hold the office of the President of the United States.

If this is not alarming to you, the DN's should not print another one of your letters until you get better informed, and serious about the usurpation of the highest office in the land.

After that is resolved we can then go down the road and discuss the other unconstitutional things this man continues to do.
Bush vs Obama | 4:59 a.m. June 30, 2009
Excuse me, but Bush was not the best thing since a slice of bread, but having no slice and given crumbs at best from Obama is not the American way.

Perhaps you should be a little more intelligent next time you come crying to the DN about "Anti-Obama" letters. Perhaps you can research the word "HYPOCRITE" prior to writing such non-sense!
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Anonymous | 5:12 a.m. June 30, 2009
Are we really still worried about Obama's birth certificate? Move on, direct your energy to something productive for heck's sake.
Jim III | 5:38 a.m. June 30, 2009
To Anonymous, you had your 8 years of complaining and somewhat justifiable disparagement of President Bush. Some of your comments about President Bush were quite rude and crass at best.
Now that the shoe is on the other foot you expect us to kneel and kowtow to President Obama and not critize him on anything that he does.
From the tone of your comments is sounds like you want to suspend the 1st Amendment rights of those who do not agree with him, or with you.
makes it easy to vote | 6:35 a.m. June 30, 2009
The far-right lives and breathes in a childish tit-for-tat world.
I say publish everything they say. Shed light on their leaders (Limbaugh, Palin, etc.) and their all-about-me philosophy whenever it comes up.
This makes it easier and easier for the mature Americans at the voting booths.
Ok | 6:38 a.m. June 30, 2009
Ok, then stop the ridiculous Pro-Obama letters and articles from the fawnig press to be fair.
disgusting | 6:42 a.m. June 30, 2009
paraphrase: "I believe in tolerance - so shut up"
This is exactly why Obama and his supporters should have verocious critics
makes it easy to vote | 7:15 a.m. June 30, 2009
"This makes it easier and easier for the mature Americans at the voting booths."

I have yet to meet a "mature" liberal. You just confirmed that yet another "INMATURE" liberal is running rampant.
To Luke: | 7:27 a.m. June 30, 2009
I think you just have the case of "voters remorse" and you want to justify it by limiting freedom of speech. Now you have to live with the consequences of your decision, as do the rest of us, and all of our children and grandchildren.
Anonymous | 7:36 a.m. June 30, 2009
The letters attacking the President have been over the top, be honest. Talk policies in an informed, educated way. That does not mean basing them on Ruse/Hannity/Beck, because their purpose is to be outrageous, leading to more ad revenue for them.
Thomas Dawkins | 7:39 a.m. June 30, 2009
Republicans can't attack Obama on anything important because they did a lot of the same things while they were in power.
Big spending (two wars, tax cuts, Medicare D)
civil liberties (habeus corpus, patriot act)
lack of transparency
Expands power of the executive branch (signing statements).
So now if Obama
spends (stimulus)
attacks civil lberties (prolonged detention)
has a lack of transparency (photos, visitor lists) expands power to the executive branch(census, czars).
So now republicans can only be petty or hypocrtical, becuse they are guility of many of the same things.
Everyone seems to miss the disturbing similairties, and the direction the two party system is leading us.
Equal time | 7:51 a.m. June 30, 2009
I say let the far right scream, holler and writhe in pain, and in print even. We all have the right to free speech. However, the GOP should know of it's extreme irrelevance. It is dead and gone. They haven't got a single person they could use as a poster child that Moe Howard wouldn't be more respectable than. Or Buddy Hackett.
They are blind to the complete idiocy of the 8 Bush years...the lies, the cover-ups, the lining of the fat cat's pockets. The total disregard for "government by the people", and their "government by and for the rich people".
They have a chance to make up for Bush,but they offer up a lunatic octogenarian and a ditzy broad.
Well done GOP.
Go ahead and keep on crying. It's going to be a long 8 years for you.
Mike
Democrats vs. Republican | 7:52 a.m. June 30, 2009
Stop, please!
Did anyone ever stop long enough to think that maybe those 2 parties may both be wrong?!!!
Most people are like children simply amused by watching a Punch & Judy show, each one knocking around the other.
Meanwhile, never realizing the entire show is being controlled by a single puppeteer?!!!
Think about it.
Don't be a Sheeple.
Voice of Reason | 7:53 a.m. June 30, 2009
I am a regular reader and participant in the Deseret News comment boards, and I'm sitting here wondering what letters this person is talking about. The vast majority of letters & responses I've seen on here from conservatives have been lukewarm at best in their Bush support, but usually critical of Bush's mistakes as they take on far, far bigger mistakes shaping up under Obama & the Democract Congress.

Bush is NOT a darling of the right, people. He stopped being that a long time ago. Why do you think he was stared out of office by below-30% approval ratings? Or why his father plummeted 40 points prior to his defeat by Clinton?

Unlike liberals, conservatives are famously independent when it comes to supporting their national leaders-we abandon them fast when they mess up. Why do you think Clinton never fell below 50% during his IMPEACHMENT, of all times? Because lefties blindly hung on to "their" guy. If Clinton were a Republican, he would've been kicked to hte curb by those independent-minded conservatives like he should have.
@Thomas Dawkins | 7:53 a.m. June 30, 2009
I disagree with your premise. Conservatives consistently have pushed their positions and criticized previous administrations, they were betrayed by the perscription drug bill, and on and on. So are you saying that now we are suppose to roll over and shut up while our country is being further destroyed? Third parties are virtually impossible due to the structuring put in place by the two party system. It's the choice of a really bad actor and a so-so bad actor. We can still at least make that choice, unless we get a Venezualen and Honduras solution and leftist dictatorship is established.
Ron Holdaway | 8:06 a.m. June 30, 2009
The writer's blind spot apparently prevents him from seeing that he is a mirror image of the people he now complains about.
@Equal Time | 8:06 a.m. June 30, 2009
It will be a longer 8 years for you. Conservatives know when they have been had. Liberals go on singing their giddy love songs long after the moon has gone down and they are deserted and betrayed in total darkness.
Mike | 8:10 a.m. June 30, 2009
Bush took us to the edge. Obama pushed us over the cliff. I'll send disparaging letters about Obama any time I want to. After all there is this little thing called the First Amendment. Democrats frequently forget that Amendment exists and whine and complain that we can't say anything bad about the Savior Obama. Well go and cry about it some more and remember we can say whatever we want, about whomever we want, whenever we want.
RedShirt | 8:13 a.m. June 30, 2009
To "Equal time | 7:51 a.m." you thought that the Bush administration was bad for 8 years. I will give you that during the firs 6, it was like watching drunken sailors on shore leave. However, if you say that since Bush left office things are better, you forget that for the last 2 years of Bush's term, the Democrats were in charge of Congress. They were the ones who created and passed all the bad legislation during the past 2 years.

In other words, both the Democrats and Republicans are bad. We need to vote all of them out of office, not just "the other guy".
KM | 8:16 a.m. June 30, 2009
Thanks to GWB and his out of control spending, I am no longer a repub. So, lets drop the Bush vs. Obama. they are two sides of the same coin. Obama, though is much more adept at spending our childrens future. If you are not a little alarmed by the dicator loving, economy destroying Obama, then you are in a deep sleep.
Locke | 8:17 a.m. June 30, 2009
One of the most misguided letters ever.
Our President | 8:19 a.m. June 30, 2009
Like it or not, voted for him or not - Obama is OUR president. What we need to be doing is hoping and praying that he makes the correct decisions regarding our country, and not belittling him. If he is doing something that is not in accordance with your thought processes, by all means write him a letter:

White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington DC

See what happens next.

The verbal bashing of former Presidents and the new one is getting rather old and tearing this nation apart. Remember the pledge where it states: "One nation, under God- indivisible - with liberty and justice for all."

Don't forget you are part of this nation and it's creed. Do something good instead of harping on the bad. It will get your further along in life.
What then? | 8:19 a.m. June 30, 2009
OK, A magic wand is waved, Obama disappears, and the GOP is given one last chance to make good.
Whom would they seat?
What would he/she (God forbid) do?
Give us SOMETHING.
Make us proud of the fetid GOP.

Let's hear it.
What are you gonna do..send RedShirt to the White House? McCain? We saw his act. Palin? Please..
Romney? He can't even dress himself in the morning.

See? You have nothing. Nobody of substance.
Noah in Provo.

Mike Richards | 8:23 a.m. June 30, 2009
If Mr. Stewart would be so kind to list specific points that we Republicans have made about Mr. Obama, perhaps we could discuss, in depth, those points.
Karen | 8:26 a.m. June 30, 2009
I would like to come out as a liberal/Democrat/(put your favorite insult or slur about me here) who is a firm believer in the Constitution and the First Amendment.

Deseret News: Please continue to respect the rights of your readers and writers and print all letters whether I agree with them or not.

Freedom to speak out against the Government is an important part of our past and one of our key values. Please do not infringe upon it.
Mike | 8:27 a.m. June 30, 2009
By the way, Ronald Reagan was the best thing since sliced bread. He is far and away the best president in my lifetime (from Eisenhower on).
Anonymous | 8:32 a.m. June 30, 2009
We must practice "Turth to Power"
RedShirt | 8:39 a.m. June 30, 2009
To "What then? | 8:19 a.m." who says taht if we were to get rid of Obama, that it would have to be replaced with a Republican. There are other political parties out there, or even people not affiliated with a political party.

How about this for a novel idea. Rather than voting for a Democrat or Republican, people vote for a Libertarian or a Communist, or any other political party.
Progressive | 8:40 a.m. June 30, 2009
I agree with equal time, this is actually fun to watch, and occasionally there are good serious debates.

Hate to tell you Mike but Regan was the devil, GWB was only a second rate sycophant pretender (doesn't diminish the damage he did though).
Anonymous | 8:42 a.m. June 30, 2009
Mike, Reagan was an actor and he put on quite a show. He was not so great when you get past the performance.
Oh Please | 8:46 a.m. June 30, 2009
As a flaming liberal I heartily disagree with the letter writer. Let us all howl to our heart's content. This is America.
Anonymous | 8:51 a.m. June 30, 2009
I think the writer is trying to (and did) say is lets talk substance and not reich wing fantasies like the moron who still thinks the birth certificate non story has traction.
Substance not mindless "Obama is a socialist" and such. Write letters about policy. We dont need people to write incoherent letters about what they heard on AM radio.
Anonymous | 8:51 a.m. June 30, 2009
Mike, you do realize that Regan sold weapons to terrorists and overthrew democratic regimes, don't you?
Mark Christensen | 8:54 a.m. June 30, 2009
The thing about an editorial is that it is strictly oppinion. The "Wacko Republicans" are simply excersizing the right to free speach. I read several anti- Bush letters in the past years, so why can it not go the other way? One thing that makes America so great is that we can critisize our leaders.This is the difference between us and socialist/fascist governments.so Luke Stewart, you have excersized your right to free speach, why cant others?
Mark Christensen, Grantsville
Thomas Dawkins@7:43 | 8:55 a.m. June 30, 2009
"So are you saying that now we are suppose to roll over and shut up while our country is being further destroyed?"

No. I want us to fight the two-party system, instead of making the mistake of voting in another Bush while thinking 'at least we have a choice.'

Sorry if I wasn't clear. You're correct that it is almost impossible to elect third parties because of the current structure. We need to restructure the system.
Gus Talwynd | 8:58 a.m. June 30, 2009
Although the Deseret News should publish a range of letter on various topics by its readers, these types of letters do reflect the opinions (however considered) by a small minority of zealous criticss. The letters may be from legitimate readers or from agents of the anti-Obama forces attempting to keep their "concerns" on the Opinion page of the newspaper.

Nonetheless, there does appear to be a preponderance of these letters (almost as if they are a form letter sent out from a radical, Right-Wing organization) which take up space that might be better served with a different letter.

If the Deseret News looks at the letters received and attempts to print a representational number based upon total received, then it is understandable that the "writers" of these letters are sending in a larger-than-normal number in order to saturate the available news space.

Beside that, they serve as a humorous example of where some people's minds are. Criticism of the Obama administration is a legitimate right of any citizen. However, the more extreme statements require an attempt to give offense and get the juices flowing. Most readers will dismiss them as the thinking of the lunatic_fringe.
The Messiah | 9:03 a.m. June 30, 2009
In Black Theology,Jesus is a liberator or the Black Messiah,Christ's message is Black power,(Henry) ,(Jeramiah Wright)
To Noah | 9:05 a.m. June 30, 2009
Wow brother, step away from the coffee machine!
Romney can't dress himself in the morning?
You lost your credibility right there.
He could buy and sell you with the chump change
he has in his front pocket.
Huckabee? Now there's someone who needs help
getting dressed in the morning.
And did you libs already forget,(conveniently) what Huckabee said in his little racial slur just before a black man was elected president?
The libs are the best at drama queening with their "outrage" etc over anything they want to get offended at.
Hence, this article.
Anonymous | 9:10 a.m. June 30, 2009
There's an easy solution for you libs: subscribe to the NY Times.
lost in DC | 9:12 a.m. June 30, 2009
didn't vite for shrub in 04 or mclame in 08 - you can't accuse me of worshipping at their feet.

Luke, 1st amendement say we can say what we want about BO. we will continue to complain about his worse-than-bush deficits, abdication of national sovereignty, and economically disastrous cap and trade and health care proposals.
lost in DC | 9:14 a.m. June 30, 2009
"vote", not "vite" - sorry
@ Luke | 9:16 a.m. June 30, 2009
Would you like some cheese with that whine? What you call " ridiculous letters " from " lunatics " is actually truth from highly intelligent individuals. Last time I checked the media and Obama supporters have this drooling love affair with the current President that would make anybody want to barf. What was that about "the greatest thing since sliced bread"?
RedShirt | 9:17 a.m. June 30, 2009
To "Gus Talwynd | 8:58 a.m." since when is 34% of the US that disapproves of Obama a "small minority"? In 5 months the number of people that disapprove of Obama has gone from 12% to 34%. His approval rating has been on a steady decline since innaguration. He currently is at 59% approval rating, having dropped from 63% at the beginning of the month.

This isn't Democrat-Republican issue, this is an issue of what is right and wrong for the country. Do we want a government that puts protectionist laws into place, like FDR did, that has the potential to turn a bad recession into a full blown depression? Or, do we want to follow Germany and Hungary and cut taxes and cut spending to get businesses growing again?
The change continues... | 9:26 a.m. June 30, 2009
Republicans held their representatives accountable for bad spending habits and I hope Democrats do the same. I believe a purging of both sides is underway and the next few elections will see many long time democrats being handed pink slips for their out-of-touch politics.
to red | 9:34 a.m. June 30, 2009
We dont need to cut taxes. We need to cut spending. The best place we can cut spending is on defense. We spend as much as the rest of the world combined on defense. We spend ten times the next nearest country.
Gus Talwynd | 9:47 a.m. June 30, 2009
RedShirt | 9:17 a.m.

Not all critics of the Obama administration fall into the "small minority" referred to in the comment. Those letter writers who constantly bring up his birth, religion, and other debunked accusations are members of a "small minority".

Legitimate criticism regarding national issues and not personal character assassination goes far beyond the 34%. However, this criticism covers a wide range from people like yourself to gay rights activists who are alarmed that Obama is not doing what they expect.

Although there are no exact numbers for the Right-Wing lunatic fringe, they are as strong as the Left-Wing crazies who are just as critical with unsubstantiated claims. Both constitute "small minorities" of disgruntled people with a bone stuck in their throat.
Typical Democrat | 10:04 a.m. June 30, 2009
Calls for censorship of all critics.

Sorry, Luke. I don't know what force is with you, but it isn't American and it isn't right.
To: To Noah | 10:21 a.m. June 30, 2009
Don't be so sure there cowboy. If I used my real name, instead of Noah, you would see that Mitt and I are on about the same level financially.
I never want my wealth to be an issue, as it would be should I reveal my name, so I use an alias, as do many. Thanks to Bush my retirement fund has about a $9 Million dollar hole in it.
But I'll live.
And Mitt is a flip flopping snake..I'd beware of him. I attended many a function where he was aboard, and he talks out of both sides of his mouth...just depends on whom he's addressing.
So use YOUR chump change to go hit a bucket of balls.
N
@ 9:47 a.m. | 10:22 a.m. June 30, 2009
You appear to be one of the minority that has an 'obsessive compulsive "BONE"' stuck in your throat.

Every time you write you are sure to attack someone, and then you cry because an individual expresses a different viewpoint.

Don't you recognize the disorder?

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