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Ultra Bob | 6:13 a.m. June 18, 2009
John Bolton and his backers own the major responsibility for the destruction of the United Nations as a force or good and peace in the world.

The purpose of the John Birch Society was to destroy the United Nations and prevent any peaceful association of the worlds nations. There work started years ago and was mainly finished during the George W Bush administration.

When John Bolton makes a statement, you can bet it will be for the perpetual war among nations and not ever aimed at peace.
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Socialism | 7:16 a.m. June 18, 2009
Ultra Bob | 6:13 a.m. June 18, 2009

"John Bolton and his backers own the major responsibility for the destruction of the United Nations as a force or good and peace in the world."

Did it ever occur to you Ultra Bob that the U.N. is nothing more than a waste of space as well as U.S. Tax Payers money. Please show me just where the U.N. has been resourceful and tactful in settling any dispute????? All they are is cowards standing at a border as the refugees come piling in.

These latest sanctions for N. Korea are nothing more than lip service. John Bolton is dead on when he challenges the U.N. and their stupidity.

Time to move the U.N. to another country and rid ourselves of a bunch of scam artists like Obama.
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Reality Bob | 7:23 a.m. June 18, 2009
What an ignorant comment.

The UN is nothing but a toothless criminal organization.

It was the Clinton administration that gave North Korea it's nuclear technology so stop with the "Bush's fault" bs already.
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Atomic Boy | 7:53 a.m. June 18, 2009
A friendly reminder: There is only one nation in the world that has actually used nuclear weapons against people ... the USA.
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Dave | 8:29 a.m. June 18, 2009
China is only comming around because of the veiled threat of a nuclear Japan.
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re:Atomic Boy | 10:04 a.m. June 18, 2009
A friendly reminder: The nation that has the ability to use nuclear weapons has NOT used them (nor threatened to...) since and is leading the world in non-proliferation efforts.

Lets get off the blame the USA first kick and move on with reality.

The bottom line is that the efforts to prevent nuclear technologies from being utilized by non-stable, aggressive regional powers, make complete sense.

We may make many mistakes in our meddling with world affairs but there is no country out there with MORE moral authority to lead the non-prolifieration efforts than the USA. To point out our own lackings and mistakes and use them as a motivation to do nothing is foolhardy.
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Tekakaromatagi | 10:16 a.m. June 18, 2009
"It was the Clinton administration that gave North Korea it's nuclear technology so stop with the "Bush's fault" bs already."

That is incorrect. Clinton was a patsy and he stuck his head in the sand when he should have gone after them diplomatically. But North Korea has been working on nuclear technology since the early 1960's. They probably got a lot from Pakistan.

Tekakaromatagi
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Atomic Boy = Half Wit | 10:26 a.m. June 18, 2009
OOOH and that so bothers you. I bet you even support detainees in Guantanamo.
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Phantom Panther | 10:33 a.m. June 18, 2009
North Korea should learn from the Deseret News and the pro-illegal alien lobby in how to handle rules, laws, and sanctions. Start screaming that the sanctions are racist and will require profiling. The sanctions will hurt families. Assume the moral high ground by muddying the water over the real issues involved.
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Ultra Bob | 11:00 a.m. June 18, 2009
The way I see it, the world is a collection of Capitalists nations vying for the worlds wealth in a monster competition where there are few rules and little enforcement. No matter what kind of government they may have internally in their nations, to the world they are competing Capitalist players. All wars are caused by their economic desires.

A repeating theme in history is that one nation or group of nations will try to be dominant. But when they do so it seems to trigger other nations to combine in the necessary strength needed to bring them down. And so the process repeats itself over and over bringing death and destruction to people who would just rather live and let live.

The United Nations was an attempt to create a referee for the worlds game. Rules would be established and muscle provided by larger nations like the United States to enforce the rules.

However, some people refuse to give up their notion that the U.S., given our current ability to dominate the world, should relinquish our capitalist advantage even if it would mean peace in the world. These are the people who tore down the U.N.
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UN a facade | 12:33 p.m. June 18, 2009
Few seem to see that Iran is now a threat because the US pulled out the (Persian) rug from under the feet of the Shah of Iran who had modernised and Westernised Iran and was friendly to the US.

The US supported and empowered Saddam Hussein in Iraq, then fought against his regime.

The US declared war on North Korea but stopped short of victory.

The US wasted the lives of tens of thousands more Americans (we don't even count Asians) in Vietnam and stopped short of victory so that, not only Vietnam, but the whole region fell to the Communists we were allegedly fighting.

The US supported the Taliban to get the USSR out of Afghanistan and now is fighting the Taliban.

The US lent support to the Communists in China and now do not even recognise Taiwan (Free China).

This all happened, in spite of, and even through, the United Nations, which has always been nothing but a facade as far as preventing war is concerned.

There are more examples of America's strange foreign policy which, since the Yalta and Tehran conferences, has consistently built up and empowered the enemies of the USA.

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An Observer | 6:07 p.m. June 18, 2009
Democrats and Liberals enforce a UN sanction?

Now that's really funny!

LOL!
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garner | 7:59 p.m. June 18, 2009
How many times did Pres. Clinton warn Saddam Hussein to stop breaking UN sanctions/rules? He never did enforce anything during his entire term.
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Anonymous | 10:03 p.m. June 18, 2009
Enforcing sanctions at this point is like closing the barn door after the horses escape.

Unless it is possible to, by sanctions roll back nuclear capacity. My guess is, it is not.
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RedShirt | 7:55 a.m. June 19, 2009
Lets remind ourselves how well the sanctions worked on Iraq, who, after 10 years of sanctions still did whatever they wanted.
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RedShirt | 8:22 a.m. June 19, 2009
To "Ultra Bob | 11:00 a.m." one thing you forget about Capitalism. It requires that all people have money. For example, if you invent a really cool hand held gaming system, it doesn't matter incredible it is if nobody can buy it.

If capitalism is so bad, then why is it that the people in China who are beginning to experiment with capitalism are experiencing better standards of living, and more freedoms? Seems to me that if you have capitalism, you have freedom. On the same hand, where you have socialism/communism you have poverty and tyrants.
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@Phantom Panther | 12:59 p.m. June 19, 2009
"assume the moral high ground by muddying the water over the real issues involved." kind of like you are trying to do by bringing up illegal aliens on a thread about North Korea?
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