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go colts !! | 5:27 a.m. April 14, 2009

coach hooper will have em ready for state

Who?? | 7:27 a.m. April 14, 2009

Who's coach Hooper?

Miner Baseball | 7:51 a.m. April 14, 2009

Park City is 9-2, 3-0 in Region 10, beat Uintah who beat Judge and they are not ranked in top 5 in 3A? Who does these rankings...how can Uintah be ranked and not Park City? Big showdown this Friday vs Judge.

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KG | 8:21 a.m. April 14, 2009

To Miner Baseball:
Good question... I don't think DesNews has a clue what to do with the 3A rankings. Judge split with Uintah last week, Emery lost twice to Uintah, Cedar is an unknown because of the Reg. 9 island, Juan Diego lost to Emery... Honestly, I don't know who ought to be number one, but I do agree that PC ought to be at least in the top 5 until it is proven that they don't belong. I think that 3A is pretty even this year relative to the polarity we saw last year.

3- A Watcher | 9:31 a.m. April 14, 2009

So who do you take out of the top 5? Uintah had some nice wins. Cedar has been playing longer than anyone and they look pretty good. Jaun Diego and Judge will probably play for championship, and who knows about this Emery team. Emery is supposed to play three Region games this week maybe this will help us see how good they really are?

LP over ranked | 9:46 a.m. April 14, 2009

LP doesn't have the pitching to ranked this high. Last night AF lit them up for 8 runs and a zillion hits. LP has to try score at least 10+ runs to win every game.

KG | 10:08 a.m. April 14, 2009

As I mentioned, I think 3A is a mess right now. But in my opinion, the rankings right now ought to be:
1. Cedar
2. Park City
3. Judge
4. Uintah
5. Emery

I think PC, Judge, and Uintah are pretty even. PC hasn't lost in region, but that will soon change, so for now, they are the highest form Region 10. Cedar I don't know much about, but they have been playing well. They thumped PC early, but they also lost to Canyon View. I think Juan Diego is better than Emery, but they have to prove it to get back in the rankings.
I think this week we will begin to see more clearly who the pretenders are. Judge and PC play, and that series will be telling. I think Emery's true colors will start to show as the season goes on... whichever way that goes. Personally, I think they are overrated.

to PC | 10:53 a.m. April 14, 2009

You haven't won any big games yet. If you beat Judge. (which you probably wont.) then you can talk about yourselves being a contender. I think the the rankings are right on this week. Ya Judge lost to Uintah and had a bad game. But they also ten-runned them the second game. Emery beat Juan Diego and Uintah is a pretty good club. PC has to prove themselves to call them selves contenders. 3A ball will be a great remaining season.

to KG | 11:57 a.m. April 14, 2009

I agree with some of your comments about 3A, but your rankings are almost as bad as the DNews. Clearly Judge & Juan Diego are the teams to beat this year in 3A based solely of last years performance and their returning starters. Cedar should be in the Top 5, cause when you have a pitcher like Deidrick (sp?) you can win almost anyone in 3A when he is on the hill. As for Uintah, they are a surprise for sure. Emery has only beat 2A teams, lost to Uintah 2x and had a lucky game against JD. They should not even be ranked. As far as PC, who knows because they have not beat anyone yet either. It is still early and the as EVERYONE knows Judge & Juan Diego are the clear 1 - 2 favorites in 3A this year. JD just came back form CA Tournament and, by there scores, crushed some teams in CA. These other 3A teams MUST prove themselves before anyone ranks them. Beating one team does not make you a contender! Just ask Baltimore.

To LP over Ranked | 12:17 p.m. April 14, 2009

So what you're saying is that the only thing that matters is who has the most pitching not who wins the most games. Lone peak has plenty of pitching, it may not have 2 or 3 guys that throw 90's, but they have enough to beat just about any team in the state. You are right they score 10 runs a game and win, Last I checked, the team with the most runs wins. That's why we play the game on the field not on paper.

Re:LP over Ranked | 12:39 p.m. April 14, 2009

Actually AF had 8 hits in the game and only 2 of them were anything more than little clinkers. The LP pitcher (Stephan) had 8 Ks in a heated contest and rivalry where anything can happen

KG | 1:29 p.m. April 14, 2009

JD and Judge are the best teams in 3A, I agree, but they have to prove it too. JD lost to Emery. Fluke? Maybe, but they have to prove their caliber with in-state opponents. Judge lost to Uintah, and Uintah lost to PC, so they each have something to prove. I think Emery will fade fast, but they earned a ranking by beating JD. Cedar beat PC handily, and have beaten some 4A teams in their Region. Not bad either. I stand by my rankings, but keep in mind these are this weeks rankings, not the rankings that I project for the end of the season. I think JD and Judge are the teams to beat for the title, but I think Uintah will surprise some teams, and PC is solid.

RE: to KG | 1:36 p.m. April 14, 2009

By the way Dedrick pitches for Canyon View not Cedar. Cedar beat a really good Pine View team this weekend, but did lose to Dedrick, one of their two losses. The other to Bishop Monogue out of Reno. I agree that Judge and Juan Diego are still the teams to beat in 3A. There is a host of teams that are playing well and could possibly knock off either of those two somewhere along the line. Canyon View is always tough with Dedrick on the hill, Park City has some good athletes, Cedar has played well lately, Emery is playing good, Uintah has a good club not to mention a Logan team that should win their region. The Problem with the rankings is that the people who make them don't really get to see a lot of the teams they are ranking play, due to distance. All I can say is rankings really don't matter, it is the standings that count and, it should be a really exciting tournament this year.

RE: to KG | 1:41 p.m. April 14, 2009

I forgot to mention Grantsville is playing well also and should be mentioned as well so there are several deserving teams that could be ranked in the top 5 but there are only 5 spots.

Richfield fan | 2:40 p.m. April 14, 2009

I don't care about records Richfield could beat Parowan any day of the week. No worries at all.

Re: LP overranked | 5:39 p.m. April 14, 2009

Let's see. Lone Peak had 12 hits, AF had nine. AF's starting pitcher walked six and hit a batter and struck out one, while Lone Peak's pitcher struck out seven. So which team has the bad pitching?

RE: Richfield Fan | 8:20 p.m. April 14, 2009

If you were really a fan you would have been to Gunnison watching them play not looking at these rankings. Richfield fans have not been posting here all year long and I hope they don't. They have struggled a bit this year, but I think they will definately be a contender at the end.

2A | 8:37 p.m. April 14, 2009

Parowan looks really good. Their game with Kanab on friday will .be a great game. Richfield and gunnison both have talent but they wont even win that region. Lookout for san juan, these kids can really play

re 2A | 9:09 a.m. April 15, 2009

San juan has a distinct advantage every time they play a region game. They are used too playing double headers the rest of the region is not
The first game in richfield was not near as close as the score and the second game was a one run game until the errors came out. we will see how good they are when its one game at a time. You all better hope Richfield does not solve there fielding problems at short, cause if they do you all might be in trouble.

2A Fan | 9:32 a.m. April 15, 2009

I've watched Richfield and Gunnison play twice and both games were similar in that the team with the fewest errors won. These are two really bad defensive teams and I don't see that improving much. Good pitching is negated by bad fielding, and the latter will keep these two teams out of the rankings and probably out of the race in the end.

Anonymous | 1:15 p.m. April 15, 2009

It was nice to see that West Jordan beat Bingham and we did not have one WJ comment after another. Good teams let the scoring talk for its self and WJ I think finally has got it! Lone Peak needs to shut up!

Anonymous | 1:34 p.m. April 15, 2009

Or maybe San Juan just got done with the 4-5 hour bus ride to Richfield and needed to get the kinks out during the first game....are you kidding me that is the stupidest excuse Ive heard. If your team cant play a competive double header with a team that takes a 4 hour ride to play you you better start doing some figuring out how to deal with it...it not something new its been going on for several years.

RE:Anonymous | 2:44 p.m. April 15, 2009

I don't think that was an excuse, just an observation as San Juan does have some advantage as their kids are used to those bus rides as you stated as they do them often where other teams might only have to travel that distance once or twice a year. San Juan doesn't have to make excuses, they have a great group of young athletes who compete in every sport. Although it is interesting how they seem to win region every year in almost every sport and then when it is at a neutral site they have not been able to get over the hump in the playoffs. So maybe they do have an advantage in region play.

re anonymous | 3:31 p.m. April 15, 2009

No excuse intended it was an observation. we will see when the state games come in there are some legitimate teams out there and it will come down too who peaks at the right time.

Nobody | 4:48 p.m. April 15, 2009

Cares about 2A.

Anonymous | 5:37 p.m. April 15, 2009

The last time San Juan won region they won the State Championship, so I guess they got over the hump. the last two years they were third in region and only one team the last two years has gotten over the hump. You say they get used to the long bus rides lol no what it does is makes you tired so by the end of the year your more worn down that the rest of the field. Long bus trips are never an advantage, and I really dont see how playing in more double headers could be an advantage ethier.

2A superfan | 6:13 p.m. April 15, 2009

To Nobody:
Yes you are.

to Anonymous @ 1:15 | 7:09 p.m. April 15, 2009

Surely you aren't crowing too much about that win last night. I have a co-worker whose son plays for WJ and when I heard that they were actually playing the game, first of all I couldn't believe it. Since I had nothing going on and because it was hyped to be a good match up I stopped by to watch. Big mistake, I froze! Let me say that I don't even like Bingham but the fact that the game was played was ridiculous. Yes WJ won, but get real, the were getting whooped the entire game and had only 1 hit. In the middle of the 7th inning the downpour began. I couldn't believe that the umpires let the game continue, they are lucky somebody didn't get hurt. WJ you got your runs from the bases being loaded from walks. You have to admit that you were lucky that you weren't in the field at that point because nobody would've been able to pitch in those conditions. I hope the jags keep it up, but until you get a legitimate win against them stop talking, your making WJ look foolish.

2A superfan | 2:54 p.m. April 16, 2009

HA.....................HA......................HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WJ | 3:32 p.m. April 16, 2009

West Jordan pitched in the same weather. Huber held them off and bingham made mistakes. Read the paper Bennion, Pearson and others came through with hits and made the walks hurt. Can't Blame the weather it was the same for all. West Jordan just played tough and didn't give up!

Re: WJ | 3:49 p.m. April 16, 2009

Get your rose colored glasses off. The weather was terrible and got worse when BK took the mound in the last of the 7th. Your bush league coach told the umpire that he no more field dry at the first if the inning and then by some sort of miracle found some when WJ had the tying run on 2nd base. Poured most of it at home plate so your hitter would have good footing and then put a little bit on the mound. You guys are BUSH LEAGUE - always have been and always will be. Do you know anything about Karma? What goes around comes around. Bush Leaguers.

re WJ | 5:30 p.m. April 16, 2009

Bush leaguers>>lol all I hear is whinning. They dumped the the quick dry on the mound for BK. Huber didn't have it. This must be the bingham daddies whinning like the other comment said. Weather was the SAME for both teams. Its amazing it got worse for your pitcher. Bad Karma. You are the ones who had the dark cloud over head! cheer up

bingham | 5:39 p.m. April 16, 2009

poor bingham beat by kearns and west jordan lol

WJ | 6:15 p.m. April 16, 2009

It was very hard to hit in those conditions too. players hands are freezing and barely able to grip the slippery bat. keep poppin all these excuses why you lost none of them matter the game is over and you guys are 2-2 in region and WJ is 4-0. I wonder what your excuse will be when Wj beats you again tomorrow.

Anonymous | 6:33 p.m. April 16, 2009

Football is great and all, but don't you guys wish you could play fall baseball as far as the weather relates? We didn't have one game under 60 degrees or any weather problems until the final week of the season, in October.

Hopefully it gets better, looks like it should in time for the part of the season that matters the most.

WJ is | 9:44 a.m. April 17, 2009

simply tougher than you are Bingham. When the rain came pouring and the weather was freezing even being down 4 in the last inning they didn't give up. They are a group of tough, talented kids. Bingham you are soft!

WJ is.... | 10:45 a.m. April 17, 2009

WJ is | 9:44 a.m. April 17, 2009

....Bush League. You will find out in the next 2 games what is like to be dominated by a better team and Bingham will win in a fair manner. Not lie about not having no more field dry and then by a miracle finding some when things start going good for you. Even the umpires said as they were leaving that WJ was lucky to win that game. Well luck just ran out - Bush Leaguers.

EY | 11:39 a.m. April 17, 2009

Just as I have said before when it is all said and done this year Bingham will be State Champs in 5A Baseball.We are just starting to put things together.Best lead off guy in the state and toughest pitching staff.Line up is tough 1 through 9.

Re: EY | 12:37 p.m. April 17, 2009

EY | 11:39 a.m. April 17, 2009

Nice try - EY would never go on and say something like this. I got your back EY - fellow Utah Bucks parent.

Re: EY | 2:12 p.m. April 17, 2009

Wow! a fellow Utah Bucks parent. Is that suppose to mean something? Quit whinning and Start winning! WJ beat you and thats it! Bingham always plays some card to make themselves look/feel better. Hey maybe next year you might beat Alta in football(little league)

RE EY | 3:03 p.m. April 17, 2009

Wow, a Utah Bucks parent. Who are the Bucks????

To: WJ | 3:30 p.m. April 17, 2009

You must really like the term "Bush League"

dumb! | 8:34 p.m. April 17, 2009

all the media cares about are the big salt lake schools, and utah county, northern utah doesn't get any credit but yet you still see 3-4 teams every year make it to the semifinals of the state tourney.

dixie | 8:31 a.m. April 19, 2009

If you think all the media cares about is utah county try being in southern utah. every year one of our teams make it to the final and we still don't get the respect deserved. by the way dixie beat cedar last night with mostly jv.

miners | 9:00 a.m. April 19, 2009

Park city split with judge yesterday. That keeps them in the lead in region with a 5-1 record and judge with a 4-2 record...

3a fan to miners | 11:23 a.m. April 19, 2009

i like how you already start bragging about your victory over judge.

PC Dad to 3a fan | 12:39 p.m. April 19, 2009

Not qualifying the above comment(3a fan), but it's certain you weren't even near the Judge/Park City DH on Saturday at Kearns.

Hat's off to both teams and the 4 pitchers that threw complete games, including Walker (J) vs. Crawford (PC) in game one, and Matherly (PC) vs. Carman (J)in game two. Probably two of the most-fun games to watch in 3A this year, and playing it at Gates made the experience even more fun for the players.

If 3a Fan is accusing anyone of bragging, the only thing we (PC) can brag about is the snow is finally off our Field-and looks like we'll finally host a home game before Summer Ball begins!

Best to all 3a teams this season!

3 A fan to PC dad | 4:26 p.m. April 19, 2009

i was at the games.

3a | 11:43 p.m. April 19, 2009

Obviously tons of talent in 3a! I can't wait to watch all these regions, 9 10 11 it's gonna be fun

Anonymous | 12:50 p.m. April 20, 2009

I wanted to address a comment here that I read on the Trib. site. Someone said something to the effect that Judge needs to come play the real competition in 4A...

3A is VERY close to 4A. I would argue that before the St. George schools and Tooele left for 4A, 3A was stronger than 4A. As for now, 4A isn't proportionately better than 3A relative to their size advantage, not even close.

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