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Civil-union stance of guv spurs protests
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Thank You | 1:27 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Thank you Governor Huntsman. You are a great inspiration for all!
Utah Bill | 4:18 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
I'm a Republican and don't feel threatened at all by Huntsman's
stance or the possibility civil unions may occur. Giving that right to others
takes nothing away from me. I'm still free to practice my chosen
lifestyle. I see no reason to stop others from doing the same.
SpySmiley | 4:22 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Could it be that Utah's government is inching away from theocracy? Could it
be that Huntsman's courageous statement on civil unions is establishing
that the governor is in charge, not the Mormon church?
What a great and momentous thing Huntsman has done!
We are seeing superior leadership as this state never has before.
Thank you Mr. Huntsman.
What a great and momentous thing Huntsman has done!
We are seeing superior leadership as this state never has before.
Thank you Mr. Huntsman.
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Anonymous | 5:41 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
He must face God for this decision. One more nail in the coffin of the
family.
Going against the church stance, you wonder if he has a conscious?
Going against the church stance, you wonder if he has a conscious?
Shifty Buttars | 6:02 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
The frustrating thing about people like Buttars is that their principle shift
with each debate. His own words during the debate over Amendment 3 support the
Common Ground initiative but now he opposes it. That is why so many people
think he is motivated by an irrational hatred and not a clearly developed
political position or philosophy. I personally believe he is a better person
than that but every time he shifts his position it grows harder to explain that
belief.
Huntsman, on the other hand, is very clear on what he believe in and what he does not. Whether or not you agree with him you have to admire the fact that he has bothered to figure that out.
Huntsman, on the other hand, is very clear on what he believe in and what he does not. Whether or not you agree with him you have to admire the fact that he has bothered to figure that out.
Gov | 6:28 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Good call Governor. It took intelligence and guts and morality to make the
call. You are a wise man really.
Good Company | 6:29 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Let's See -
After Prop 8 exploded, the LDS Church says it does not opposed civil unions, just gay marriage.
The governor says he supports the idea of civil unions.
The Eagle Forum and Chris Buttars oppose civil unions.
Looks to me that the governor is in "good company."
Whose side are you on?
After Prop 8 exploded, the LDS Church says it does not opposed civil unions, just gay marriage.
The governor says he supports the idea of civil unions.
The Eagle Forum and Chris Buttars oppose civil unions.
Looks to me that the governor is in "good company."
Whose side are you on?
Florien Wineriter | 6:40 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Congratulations to Gov Huntsman for supporting Equality of Human Rights.He is
following the tradition of Utah governors being true leaders, far ahead of
dogmatic legislators.
elliot | 6:58 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
A rational, honest, CHRISTIAN man. Governor HUNTSMAN FOR PRESIDENT.
Laura | 6:59 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance - note the word 'Republic'.
Here's the definition -
"a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them"
The Founding Fathers purposely moved away from a monarchy. No matter how pretty his words, no matter how politely he speaks, his actions are not that of a Republic leader. And please, do not remind me that Ms. Roskelly stated the majority of the calls to the Governor were to say thank you. She is a spoke person for the Governor not the people. With 66 percent of the people in this state conservative....I sincerely doubt that Governor Politician Huntsman is representing the majority of people who voted for him.
"a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them"
The Founding Fathers purposely moved away from a monarchy. No matter how pretty his words, no matter how politely he speaks, his actions are not that of a Republic leader. And please, do not remind me that Ms. Roskelly stated the majority of the calls to the Governor were to say thank you. She is a spoke person for the Governor not the people. With 66 percent of the people in this state conservative....I sincerely doubt that Governor Politician Huntsman is representing the majority of people who voted for him.
A_Good_Citizen | 7:03 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Jon Huntsman Jr. is a liar! If he said so BEFORE the election, 95% of the voter
will not support him. He knew it!
arc | 7:04 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
HB 160, Adult Joint Support Declaration, is worth amending and passing. It would
apply to a brother and sister sharing a house, two old friends, etc. It says
nothing about "gay" or same-sex anything. It makes no approval of
anyone's lifestyle. Based on the number of men/women living together with
kids, it is a step in the right direction.
HB 267 should be shredded as is. It asks for approval or at least legal recognition of GLBT status and could hurt churches, scouts, and others' ability to require a moral code of ethics.
Any executive order from Gov Huntsman re: health insurance should be delayed until someone thinks things through.
HB 267 should be shredded as is. It asks for approval or at least legal recognition of GLBT status and could hurt churches, scouts, and others' ability to require a moral code of ethics.
Any executive order from Gov Huntsman re: health insurance should be delayed until someone thinks things through.
Liberal Democrat | 7:18 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
I like all of you who are posing as conservatives have an opinion too. Though
very liberal in all areas except gay rights, I think the governor is nothing
more than a politician who is sucking up to the current power base so he can
advance his political fortunes. To equate sodomy with Equality and Human Rights
is to be an idiot. I wish the governor would run again. He would loose at
convention. What a pathetic fortune hunter he is.
Anonymous | 7:25 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
A grave mistake Governor. I hope you do go to China. After embracing the global
warming baloney, and now kowtowing to the homosexual crowd--I hope you go...far,
far away.
The gays are not going to elect you to anything in this state, and now the family people aren't either.
The gays are not going to elect you to anything in this state, and now the family people aren't either.
Voice of Reason | 7:26 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
There is nothing courageous about what Governor Hunstman has said. It was a
clearly political move intended to ingratiate himself to Obama. If he really
believes that Civil Unions are acceptable then that would be even more
troubling, since his own faith clearly, without question, opposes "civil
unions" as just gay marriage by another name.
The LDS Church's recent statement that gay activists have taken grossly out of context does not, repeat DOES NOT, endorse civil unions at all. It only says that the Church "does not object to rights (already established in California) regarding hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment rights, or probate rights . . . "
That allows for some basic human decency that ALL people, regardless of sexual gender preference, deserve. But gay activists need to be very careful, since saying that someone shouldn't be fired for simply being gay is a far cry from an employer firing someone for openly espousing a deeply dangerous and high-risk sexual practice at work.
And Governor Huntsman needs to be very, very careful in how he fulfills his obvious political ambitions.
The LDS Church's recent statement that gay activists have taken grossly out of context does not, repeat DOES NOT, endorse civil unions at all. It only says that the Church "does not object to rights (already established in California) regarding hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment rights, or probate rights . . . "
That allows for some basic human decency that ALL people, regardless of sexual gender preference, deserve. But gay activists need to be very careful, since saying that someone shouldn't be fired for simply being gay is a far cry from an employer firing someone for openly espousing a deeply dangerous and high-risk sexual practice at work.
And Governor Huntsman needs to be very, very careful in how he fulfills his obvious political ambitions.
Lost my support | 7:34 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
All people have the exact same rights & restrictions when it comes to marriage. There is no reason to change that to accomodate the wishes of homosexuals. This is just another example of malcontented extremists demanding special rights. If we allow homosexual marriage, how long before extremists start demanding incestuous marriage? Plural marriage? Marriage to children? Marriage to farm animals? It never ends.....
By the way, I am not LDS or Republican. Just a man who understands that marriage (traditional) is the cornerstone of civilization and any attempt to weaken marriage as it has existed for thousands of years will inevitably lead to the collapse of civilization.
Native Utahn | 7:38 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
What a great moment in Utah's history! I am proud of our Governor, he is
the Future and those opposing him belong to a not-too-proud past.
thank you | 7:59 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Thank you governor
Rediculus! | 8:03 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
This is really sad. It was unnecessary as people who don't care about
moral, ethical or legal unions find this legitimization of their weakness. They
will do it whether it has the endorsements of GUV or not. Shame on Gov Huntsman.
Jumipin' jack | 8:09 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Why is it that the right wingnuts are saying that since the Gov is LDS that he
can't hold an opinion that is different from the "official"
church position? I my view that puts the LDS leadership in the same role that
Hitler had in WWII.
I thought we were living in the land of the free and the home of the brave. It seems that many Utahans believe that "The Church" is the only authority.
I thought we were living in the land of the free and the home of the brave. It seems that many Utahans believe that "The Church" is the only authority.
Encouraged citizen | 8:10 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Thank you Governor Huntsman for recognizing that CIVIL RIGHTS should be
available to ALL citizens of Utah.
huh? | 8:16 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
RE:Shifty Buttars
Of all the things said about Buttars, your statement makes the least sense to me. Shifting principles? Chris Buttars? He has remained remarkably consistent in his opposition of Gay marriage and civil unions amoung same-sex couples. You may not appreciate his stance on things but to call him someone who shifts his position is either very mis-informed or delusional.
Contrasting Huntsman with Buttars on the idea of consistancy? Buttars has never bowed to political interests to gain a more popular opinion. This is evidenced by his very narrow win (4% margin) in a district that votes consistantly 70% republican.
While Huntsman does enjoy incredible popularity, I would not call him a bastion of principled consistancy. (When first running for office he voiced his support for admendment 3)
Of all the things said about Buttars, your statement makes the least sense to me. Shifting principles? Chris Buttars? He has remained remarkably consistent in his opposition of Gay marriage and civil unions amoung same-sex couples. You may not appreciate his stance on things but to call him someone who shifts his position is either very mis-informed or delusional.
Contrasting Huntsman with Buttars on the idea of consistancy? Buttars has never bowed to political interests to gain a more popular opinion. This is evidenced by his very narrow win (4% margin) in a district that votes consistantly 70% republican.
While Huntsman does enjoy incredible popularity, I would not call him a bastion of principled consistancy. (When first running for office he voiced his support for admendment 3)
Is it just me? | 8:29 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Is it just me, or do some people just not get that everyone deserves to be
treated with dignity. That even means those that may live a lifestyle contrary
to what you have chosen. While I am disappointed by the reactions of many
"adults" who judge and call others names, the younger generation in
our state does leave me with some hope that we will stop treating others who are
different as less than human. Come on people! It's time to wake up and look
at how your words and actions actually do hurt other people. Stop pointing out
other people's "sins" and work on fixing your own problems.
Anonymous | 8:31 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Here's a little tidbit from Elder Whitney Clayton in the Nov. 6 Deseret
News: 'He said in general, the church "does not oppose civil unions or
domestic partnerships," that involve benefits like health insurance and
property rights. That stand was outlined in a statement the church posted on its
Web site earlier in the campaign.' When considered together with the
Church's stance on abortion, it sounds like Sen. Buttars and the Eagle
Forum crowd need to start holding rallies against the LDS Church as well.
Frankly, I have nothing but admiration for Gov. Huntsman's stance. You go,
Gov!
@Voice of Reason | 8:32 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Frank Schubert was the chief strategist for the LDS Church's Prop 8 efforts
and stated, "the less we refer to homosexuality, the better." He made
it clear that if the church was seen as attacking gays that they would lose the
Prop 8 campaign.
To further this marketing strategy, Elder L. Whitney Clayton said, in general, the church "does not oppose civil unions or domestic partnerships," that involve benefits like health insurance and property rights.
This statement was seen for what it was, a way to improve the standing of the church in the court of public opinion. This has been confirmed by the silence of the church regarding the Common Ground initiatives. In fact, the silence coming from Temple Square regarding benefits like health insurance and property rights has been deafening.
And before you start slamming me as a 'mormon-hater' - realize that I am LDS and just want my church to stand by what they have said - no more, no less.
To further this marketing strategy, Elder L. Whitney Clayton said, in general, the church "does not oppose civil unions or domestic partnerships," that involve benefits like health insurance and property rights.
This statement was seen for what it was, a way to improve the standing of the church in the court of public opinion. This has been confirmed by the silence of the church regarding the Common Ground initiatives. In fact, the silence coming from Temple Square regarding benefits like health insurance and property rights has been deafening.
And before you start slamming me as a 'mormon-hater' - realize that I am LDS and just want my church to stand by what they have said - no more, no less.
James 1:5 | 8:42 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Gov. Huntsman, you just earned my vote. Kudos to you for representing the common
values of equality and dignity that should unite all Utahns and all Americans.
What does it matter to you? | 8:43 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
I am all for supporting marriage as between a man and a women. BUT, welcome to
MODERN TIMES! Civil unions are not just a benefit to Gays! The benefit all
kinds of relationships: Brother/Sister, Mother/Daughter, Friend/Friend,
Elderly/Elderly...
Civil Unions could keep people OFF of Medicaid, OFF of Food Stamps, and out of the emergency rooms. HELLO, how is that a bad thing?
Florida recently allowed individuals to add family/significant others to health care plans if they were living in the same household. THIS IS A GOOD THING!
I Salute Gov Huntsman, and I condemn those who are opposed to positive change. Teach your children your values, dont force them on others.
Utah is a hard enough state to live in with LDS values pushed on everyone. And for the most part, they are good moral values, but it is NOT your RIGHT to enforce YOUR VALUES on OTHERS who do not share your religion. Religion has NO place in Government. And Government has NO PLACE in the peoples bedrooms!
LAND OF THE FREE & HOME OF THE BRAVE ~AND~ SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE!!!
Civil Unions could keep people OFF of Medicaid, OFF of Food Stamps, and out of the emergency rooms. HELLO, how is that a bad thing?
Florida recently allowed individuals to add family/significant others to health care plans if they were living in the same household. THIS IS A GOOD THING!
I Salute Gov Huntsman, and I condemn those who are opposed to positive change. Teach your children your values, dont force them on others.
Utah is a hard enough state to live in with LDS values pushed on everyone. And for the most part, they are good moral values, but it is NOT your RIGHT to enforce YOUR VALUES on OTHERS who do not share your religion. Religion has NO place in Government. And Government has NO PLACE in the peoples bedrooms!
LAND OF THE FREE & HOME OF THE BRAVE ~AND~ SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE!!!
He doesn't represent me | 8:44 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Many people that I work with are disgusted with Mr. Huntsman and have been for
some time. I'm beginning to understand why. Could John be looking toward
national politics?
I think every PROTESTER | 8:48 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Should have a GAY marry into your family
You son or Daughter
Now what are you protesting about?
You son or Daughter
Now what are you protesting about?
elliot | 9:08 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Wow! Calm down "Good citizen", looks like you're just about to
have a heart attack.
We all can discuss these issues without resorting to name calling or worse.
For those seemingly full of hate (or religious fervor, whatever you want to call it), just remember: WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?
We all can discuss these issues without resorting to name calling or worse.
For those seemingly full of hate (or religious fervor, whatever you want to call it), just remember: WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?
elliot | 9:12 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
LEAVE MY GOVERNOR ALONE!!!
I am an active LDS, conservative Utahn who supports him all the way. By the way (pardon the pun), I am a young, straight, married, family man.
I am an active LDS, conservative Utahn who supports him all the way. By the way (pardon the pun), I am a young, straight, married, family man.
Shifty Shifty | 9:16 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Read what Buttars said in 2004 about how limited Amendment 3 was and then look
what he is saying now. If he hates gays he should be a grown up and say so.
Lots of people in this state would agree with him. Otherwise he needs to come
up with a rational set of principles to explain why he believes what he said
then and believes what he is saying now.
Texas Gal | 9:19 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Just wanted to voice my agreement with "Lost My Support" @ 7:34.
"marriage (traditional) is the cornerstone of civilization and any attempt to weaken marriage as it has existed for thousands of years will inevitably lead to the collapse of civilization."
Thank you for saying it so simply.
"marriage (traditional) is the cornerstone of civilization and any attempt to weaken marriage as it has existed for thousands of years will inevitably lead to the collapse of civilization."
Thank you for saying it so simply.
Re: Protester | 9:20 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
I do, and I still say no to civil unions, what�s your
point. I love my brother to death and his boyfriend is pretty cool, but it
doesn�t change the fact that I disagree with their
lifestyle.
Michaelitos | 9:26 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
@ What does it matter to you?
Actually, it does matter to me. I hold certain opinions and values, and as a citizen I have a right to let them be heard. Furthermore, regarding your supposed separation of church and state comment, I'll let Neal Maxwell answer you:
"If people are not permitted to advocate, to assert, and to bring to bear, in every legitimate way, the opinions and views they hold that grow out of their religious convictions, what manner of men and women would they be, anyway? Our founding fathers did not wish to have a state church established nor to have a particular religion favored by government. They wanted religion to be free to make its own way. But neither did they intend to have irreligion made into a favored state church. Notice the terrible irony if this trend were to continue. When the secular church goes after its heretics, where are the sanctuaries? To what landfalls and Plymouth Rocks can future pilgrims go?"
From Neal Maxwell's "Meeting the Challenges of Today" given in 1978.
Actually, it does matter to me. I hold certain opinions and values, and as a citizen I have a right to let them be heard. Furthermore, regarding your supposed separation of church and state comment, I'll let Neal Maxwell answer you:
"If people are not permitted to advocate, to assert, and to bring to bear, in every legitimate way, the opinions and views they hold that grow out of their religious convictions, what manner of men and women would they be, anyway? Our founding fathers did not wish to have a state church established nor to have a particular religion favored by government. They wanted religion to be free to make its own way. But neither did they intend to have irreligion made into a favored state church. Notice the terrible irony if this trend were to continue. When the secular church goes after its heretics, where are the sanctuaries? To what landfalls and Plymouth Rocks can future pilgrims go?"
From Neal Maxwell's "Meeting the Challenges of Today" given in 1978.
READ the Article | 9:38 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
For those of you saying that the Governor has "changed his stance" in
an effort to possible run for National office, Even Sen. Waddoups said that what
the Governor has always had this stance and that what he said was true: "He
said, 'I've always felt that way. I've stated my position before
and this is the first time it's been publicized,'"
The Senate leader said Huntsman wasn't referring to civil unions as an alternative to marriage for gay couples but as a way for non-traditional couples to share benefits. The governor had tried and failed in 2005 to push through a Senate bill advocating reciprocal benefits for non-traditional couples.
The Senate leader said Huntsman wasn't referring to civil unions as an alternative to marriage for gay couples but as a way for non-traditional couples to share benefits. The governor had tried and failed in 2005 to push through a Senate bill advocating reciprocal benefits for non-traditional couples.
@Texas Gal | 9:41 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
"Lost My Support" and "Texas Gall" stated: "marriage
(traditional) is the cornerstone of civilization and any attempt to weaken
marriage as it has existed for thousands of years will inevitably lead to the
collapse of civilization."
If you believe "Traditional Marriage" has existed in it's current state for "thousands of years" you really haven't studied history. The current state of marriage didn't appear until the mid- to late-1700's. What about all of the prophets in the bible with multiple wives and concubines?
If you believe "Traditional Marriage" has existed in it's current state for "thousands of years" you really haven't studied history. The current state of marriage didn't appear until the mid- to late-1700's. What about all of the prophets in the bible with multiple wives and concubines?
Anonymous | 9:48 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Dumb, dumb move Governor. Go to China and be gone. I had trouble voting for you
in November, now I know why. What a stupid move by a supposedly conservative
governor.
Rebuttal | 9:48 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Ref: "What does it matter to you"?
You tell me to "teach my children my values", but "don't push them on you"?
Then you "condemn" me for having values?!?
"Utah is a hard enough state to live in with LDS values pushed on everyone"?
I'm a non-LDS resident of this state. I have nothing but respect for the people who chose to reside here. I moved here from California like many others who were tired of the politics and poor values.
I feel neither threatened or abused by anyone else' value system.
I sounds to me like YOU are the the one with the problem.
Why is it that when someone has a different opinion and shares it, they are considered anti-gay or homophobic?
Land of the free (as long as I agree with YOU) Right?!?!?!?!?!
Remember, apathy preceeds acceptance.
You tell me to "teach my children my values", but "don't push them on you"?
Then you "condemn" me for having values?!?
"Utah is a hard enough state to live in with LDS values pushed on everyone"?
I'm a non-LDS resident of this state. I have nothing but respect for the people who chose to reside here. I moved here from California like many others who were tired of the politics and poor values.
I feel neither threatened or abused by anyone else' value system.
I sounds to me like YOU are the the one with the problem.
Why is it that when someone has a different opinion and shares it, they are considered anti-gay or homophobic?
Land of the free (as long as I agree with YOU) Right?!?!?!?!?!
Remember, apathy preceeds acceptance.
Cats | 9:50 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
This is really sad. I'm very disappointed in the Governor. I thought it
was really ungrateful and inappropriate when he openly campaigned against Mitt
Romney in Florida. Now, he has disappointed me even more.
I don't think I will be able to support him in the future.
I don't think I will be able to support him in the future.
grumpolman | 9:57 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
And to think Huntsman could ever make me wish I had voted for Super Dale!
Joe Watts | 10:05 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
My hat is off to Governor Huntsman.
His courageous leadership will be beneficial to his church and to our state.
It will encourage others who have been quietly supportive of equality for gays to 'come out of the closet,' and it will encourage everyone to re-evaluate their own biases and prejudices.
This is a great day for all families, as all family trees have gay branches.
His courageous leadership will be beneficial to his church and to our state.
It will encourage others who have been quietly supportive of equality for gays to 'come out of the closet,' and it will encourage everyone to re-evaluate their own biases and prejudices.
This is a great day for all families, as all family trees have gay branches.
Robert | 10:11 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
I am disappointed.
Ms. Maverick | 10:25 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Good for you, Gov! Thank you for taking a rational, reasonable and responsible
approach to the issue. We've got to move past discrimination for our
society to advance. More people would support the stance if the word
"marriage" was not used to describe the institution. "Civil
union" is probably the correct term for people to warm up to more just laws
on the issue.
mtymouse | 10:26 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
The ideas the governor proposes makes me worried, and I even wonder why he feels
it's necessary. I have lived by, work with, and know individuals who are
gay, and have never seen them lose a job, a home, or friends because of their
sexual preference. I'm afraid this will be just one step forward to the
demands of the gay community to want marriage to be legalized for
them--something I am absolutely against, and the state has voiced their
opposition as well. The governor needs to remember the community we live in,
where the majority, not the loud minority, have values we don't want to
change, which will be catastrophic in the future. The governor should seriously
consider the impact of this decision for our children and grandchildren, not
just to please the gay community now.
I thought I had helped re-elect a conservative leader, whose party shares pretty much the same values I do--guess I was wrong.
I thought I had helped re-elect a conservative leader, whose party shares pretty much the same values I do--guess I was wrong.
Wake Up Eagle Forum | 10:29 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
I love how the Extreme-right and Eagle-Forum and people like Gayle Ruzicka who
ensured Hate Crime laws wouldn't pass because it might protect a gay from
being beaten to death.
Gayle Ruzicka and Eagle forum are nothing but a modern day group of Pharisee. They claimed to be of the covenant, the righteous, defending the faith, but they stoned people to death, and if I get the story right, were the ones who crucified their own Savior, because they thought that he wasn't following all their rules.
We are not a religious state, the constitution ensures that. Having served in the military and being deployed to a religious state like Iraq, Pakistan and others. I am glad we don't live under that fear of the religious police enforcing the rules of the Koran.
The truth is however, we are on our way to making it as such. Eagle Forum will probably soon lobby themselves the ability to enforce the rule of the Book of Mormon and Bible on all those in the state. We need to stop and remember one thing the constitution guarantees "Equal Representation under the law"
Gayle Ruzicka and Eagle forum are nothing but a modern day group of Pharisee. They claimed to be of the covenant, the righteous, defending the faith, but they stoned people to death, and if I get the story right, were the ones who crucified their own Savior, because they thought that he wasn't following all their rules.
We are not a religious state, the constitution ensures that. Having served in the military and being deployed to a religious state like Iraq, Pakistan and others. I am glad we don't live under that fear of the religious police enforcing the rules of the Koran.
The truth is however, we are on our way to making it as such. Eagle Forum will probably soon lobby themselves the ability to enforce the rule of the Book of Mormon and Bible on all those in the state. We need to stop and remember one thing the constitution guarantees "Equal Representation under the law"
Anonymous | 10:45 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
Maybe the solution is that everyone gets one adult that you can designate as the
person to share your job benefits with, whether it be your spouse, boyfriend or
girlfriend, parent, sibling, adult child, roommate, friend or neighbor, not
someone you actually have to be having sex with.
Robin | 10:46 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
I admire his willingness to listen to the current tide of harmony withing
society. He can balance a motorcyle, too.
Olive D. Gazlebern | 10:46 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
My partner and I have been together for 12 years without the benefits of other
couples on our street. Thank you Governor; you've given me some hope.
Re: Joe Watts | 10:47 a.m. Feb. 12, 2009
As far as I know, my family tree doesn't have any gay branches.
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185 - Lawmakers, educators debate plan158
- Why do they hate us? Try asking140
- Countering attacks on LDS scholarship131
- Letters: Tea Party hypocrites116
- Rally in opposition to benefit cuts90
- Utah football alters schedule80
- BYU's prime postseason position?77
- Let's talk college hoops76
- Korver wants some playing time74
Interesting and entertaining observations of the Utah Legislature.
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