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Man hurt when gun blasts toilet
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liberal Larry | 6:19 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Why didn't DNews list the name of this rocket scientist, and include his
picture?
Toilet Seat is Okay | 6:20 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
From the picture the toilet seat appears to be in good shape. Let us hope they
use it on the next toilet they put in. They will have to put a disclaimer up so
that everyone using the restroom will know that the toilet seat was involved in
a shooting. Was it a random act? Or was it planned out to go down that way?
Ponder those questions for a while.
While gun safety is not a laughing matter, this story is. Be safe with your guns and know that they are deadly weapons and should not be carried lightly.
While gun safety is not a laughing matter, this story is. Be safe with your guns and know that they are deadly weapons and should not be carried lightly.
Anonymous | 7:10 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
What's with the obsession to carry a gun? The chances of ever needing it
are absolutely remote. Logic and reality defy the irrational, paranoid desire
to pack heat to proctect oneself. Or is it an expression of machoism or sexual
inadequacy?
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Flush | 7:23 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
I just have one question...did he get his business flushed before he blew the
bowl apart or did more than porcelain splash all over him???
Whoa Nellie | 7:45 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
The first paragraph of this article says it all. Now that's funny. And a
big Amen to Fodder for late night. Some of the commenters on DNews articles are
great examples of grade school dropouts. What is really scary though are the
many who profess to have attended college or graduated from some university but
still cannot spell. Start out by learning the difference between the word
"your" and "you're" then move on to "there"
and "their" and know when to use these words. Once you've
accomplished that task finish your education by learning the correct usage of
the words "then" and "than" and when to use either one.
Then come back and post your comments.
Final shot: The two best signs I've seen concerning urinating were: 1) In the men's restroom of a restaurant, "We aim to please. You aim too, please." 2) At a public swimming pool, "We don't swim in your toilet so please don't pee in our pool."
Final shot: The two best signs I've seen concerning urinating were: 1) In the men's restroom of a restaurant, "We aim to please. You aim too, please." 2) At a public swimming pool, "We don't swim in your toilet so please don't pee in our pool."
Laughing Loud | 7:55 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Best DNews comments ever:
"sounds like a crap shoot."
"Bet the urinal was shaken up."
"Guns Don't Kill People...Toilets do."
Classic.
"sounds like a crap shoot."
"Bet the urinal was shaken up."
"Guns Don't Kill People...Toilets do."
Classic.
Kenneth in Texas | 8:10 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
re: "Only in Utah?" and "JT":
I agree! Stories like this can happen in any state allowing concealed weapons to be carried in public places. In those states or countries where such weapon possession is prohibited, such things can still happen to the criminals that don't care about those "no gun" laws.
No crime was apparently committed. Perhaps some foolishness in lack of properly holstering the gun, but that's no crime. Just be glad only the toilet caught the stray bullet. It's much easier to replace the toilet than a human life.
I agree! Stories like this can happen in any state allowing concealed weapons to be carried in public places. In those states or countries where such weapon possession is prohibited, such things can still happen to the criminals that don't care about those "no gun" laws.
No crime was apparently committed. Perhaps some foolishness in lack of properly holstering the gun, but that's no crime. Just be glad only the toilet caught the stray bullet. It's much easier to replace the toilet than a human life.
Wyoming Native | 8:22 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Now that Dick Cheney is retired this guy should look him up and go hunting
together...POT SHOT is what it sound like
0802 | 8:26 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
It seems that many of you have some strange idea that people who choose to carry
a concealed firearm lack self esteem or are compensating for something. Nothing
could be further from the truth. Most are average people who you would never
suspect as having a firearm on them. It's very likely that someone you know
well at work, school, or in your neighborhood is legally armed.
Watch out | 9:09 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Remember, Utah law allows concealed weapons in your child's elementary
school, too. Of course, if a "legal" carrier accidently kills a six
year old while using the john at school, law enforcement will pass it off as
"just one of those things."
Very Humorous | 9:11 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
This is way too funny!!!!! I Loved it..... It's also good that he and
others were not hurt.
Jay | 9:24 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
The lady's chest pains probably had more to do with the six dollar burgar
she just pounded than the gun going off!
Anonymous | 9:32 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
This is not a question about concealed carry or carrying a loaded weapon. The
question is "accidental" or unintended discharge. The ONLY way a Kahr
P40 will discharge is to pull the trigger! You can drop that gun all day long
and it will not fire. There is more to the story (and the excuse given) than was
conveyed.
Keep your finger off of the trigger if you don't want a gun to discharge! This man needs more training.
Keep your finger off of the trigger if you don't want a gun to discharge! This man needs more training.
Anonymous | 9:31 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Re- Watch out,
You sound like a person who likes to create chaos.... Calm down!
I'm happy this young man is ok too, and did not hurt himself or anyone else.
You sound like a person who likes to create chaos.... Calm down!
I'm happy this young man is ok too, and did not hurt himself or anyone else.
American Standardme | 9:34 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
The guy was just lucky it was a toilet and not a bidet. Those things could shoot
back.
Wasting Time | 9:37 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Someone must have left the toilet seat up!!
Drop Test | 9:43 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Apparently he is not familiar with the mechanical safeties of the Khar pistol.
I doesn�t fire if you dropped on its barrel or backside,
you have to pull the trigger. There is a good possibility that he was playing
with it and accidentally discharged the weapon. Keep your finger off the
trigger and be a responsible gun owner.
still laughing | 10:07 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Thar she blows!
0802 | 10:10 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
This man should lose his permit and permanently be prevented from getting it
back. We need to send a message to every concealed carry holder out there that
those of us who are responsible won't have our right infringed on because
of idiots like this. A modern firearm doesn't go off when dropped! They
only go off when you pull the trigger!!!!
to be or not to be | 10:18 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
All toilets thinking of committing a grime should think twice!
goforit | 10:20 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
to WHAT?!? | 3:56 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009
FYI, I grew up in the country around guns, attended hunting/ gun safety courses, have gone hunting, had a grandfather who was a police office and life member of the NRA. All the being said, I have personally know one friend who was accidentally shot by another. I have witnessed a teenage male "friend" get his father's gun and put one in the chamber, spin it and point it at another kid, and pull the trigger (to this day we are not sure if he know the chamber that clicked was empty). I have seen bulletts go through the neighbor's barn roof. I have had two classmates and the father of another commit suicide with a gun. I have had a loaded gun pointed at me (by a teenage "friend", his father's gun), and back in the 50's one day when my grandfather came home from work he was taking his gun out of the holster and accidentally shot himself in the leg (his fellow officers always gave him grief and the rumor going arond was that my grandmother shot him). Just telling you my experiences that formed my opnions. Peace
FYI, I grew up in the country around guns, attended hunting/ gun safety courses, have gone hunting, had a grandfather who was a police office and life member of the NRA. All the being said, I have personally know one friend who was accidentally shot by another. I have witnessed a teenage male "friend" get his father's gun and put one in the chamber, spin it and point it at another kid, and pull the trigger (to this day we are not sure if he know the chamber that clicked was empty). I have seen bulletts go through the neighbor's barn roof. I have had two classmates and the father of another commit suicide with a gun. I have had a loaded gun pointed at me (by a teenage "friend", his father's gun), and back in the 50's one day when my grandfather came home from work he was taking his gun out of the holster and accidentally shot himself in the leg (his fellow officers always gave him grief and the rumor going arond was that my grandmother shot him). Just telling you my experiences that formed my opnions. Peace
Wild Bill | 10:20 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Enough toilet talk. This man is okay and that is all that matters. They also
have good prices on toilets right now at home depot.
toilet phob | 10:24 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Consealing toilets is not without certain hazards!
The Stall has ears | 10:29 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
The toilets last words were......gurgle!
BG | 10:29 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Take it easy on him, he's just a fall guy for Dick Cheney! It's okay,
right-wing folks - a little humor, goes a long way!
JIm | 10:36 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
If you think carrying with an empty chamber is the normal thing to do,
you've been watching too much television. On tv and in the movies, they
love to show the Jack Bauer types racking the slide, for effect. In real life,
semiauto handguns are designed to be carried with a round in the chamber.
That Kahr is designed to be dropped from a building and not fire. There's no way it just went off when dropped; it's physically impossible unless the owner modified the internal mechanism of the gun. The firing pin is blocked by a piece of steel that only moves out of the way when the trigger is pulled. Any inertial force that could cause the firing pin block to move would have to occur at a different angle from any inertial force that could cause the firing pin to strike the primer. And Kahr firearms have heavy, long trigger pulls--they require a quite deliberate pull of the trigger.
My guess: either he was playing with the gun in the stall and pulled the trigger, or it did fall and as it fell he tried to grab it in mid-air, pulling the trigger in the process.
That Kahr is designed to be dropped from a building and not fire. There's no way it just went off when dropped; it's physically impossible unless the owner modified the internal mechanism of the gun. The firing pin is blocked by a piece of steel that only moves out of the way when the trigger is pulled. Any inertial force that could cause the firing pin block to move would have to occur at a different angle from any inertial force that could cause the firing pin to strike the primer. And Kahr firearms have heavy, long trigger pulls--they require a quite deliberate pull of the trigger.
My guess: either he was playing with the gun in the stall and pulled the trigger, or it did fall and as it fell he tried to grab it in mid-air, pulling the trigger in the process.
CK | 10:49 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Re: goforit,
Many people own guns and have not gone through what you and your family have gone through. It's sad that your family has gone through so much, and I'm very sorry for that.
I knew high school kids who committed suicide on drugs. It seems to me that there were more people when I was growing up who committed suicide with drugs rather then with a gun. I know it happens with guns, but drugs are just as bad as guns if not worse.
Many people own guns and have not gone through what you and your family have gone through. It's sad that your family has gone through so much, and I'm very sorry for that.
I knew high school kids who committed suicide on drugs. It seems to me that there were more people when I was growing up who committed suicide with drugs rather then with a gun. I know it happens with guns, but drugs are just as bad as guns if not worse.
CW9 Owner | 10:59 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Kahr's have a built in safety that will not allow the gun to fire unless
the trigger is pulled about half way. I have a feeling that he was sitting on
the can, playing with his "gun" and carelessly shot a round.
Unfortunately, the only people that will know this for sure are him and the poor toilet that he sent to junkyard.
Unfortunately, the only people that will know this for sure are him and the poor toilet that he sent to junkyard.
CO Coug | 11:07 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Luckily the toilet was wearing it's ceramic plates inside of it's body
armor.
Junkyard dog | 11:08 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Re: CW9Owner...Great comment! You are absolutely correct.
Gun toter | 11:10 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
This is the very reason why I don't have a concealed carry permit. I just
carry a 12-gauge over and under with me wherever I go in plain view. As I get
older, however, sometimes I forget where I left it.
Left it in the Bishop's office last Sunday....
Left it in the Bishop's office last Sunday....
Jennifer | 11:25 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
RE: Gun Toter
You should not even carry a gun. Of course, you must be kidding all of us on here? Otherwise, you are an unsafe person, and will probably end up getting your gun confiscated by the police.
I just love the toilet bowl picture on Des/News. This means one less bowl in the world that needs cleaning.... hurray!
You should not even carry a gun. Of course, you must be kidding all of us on here? Otherwise, you are an unsafe person, and will probably end up getting your gun confiscated by the police.
I just love the toilet bowl picture on Des/News. This means one less bowl in the world that needs cleaning.... hurray!
Schindler's List | 11:38 a.m. Jan. 15, 2009
I am surprised you haven't had any letters of complaint from the JDL;
showing a gas chamber and all.
Tidbits of gun wisdom | 12:19 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
This unfortunate man not withstanding...
I carry a gun because they don't make holsters for cops.
When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.
My right to self defense is not subject to silly peoples opinions to the contrary.
Modern firearms DO NOT "go off" when dropped. It's one of those designs made mandatory by common sense in the market. Like the man says: " keep yer booger-picker off the bang switch!"
I carry a gun because they don't make holsters for cops.
When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.
My right to self defense is not subject to silly peoples opinions to the contrary.
Modern firearms DO NOT "go off" when dropped. It's one of those designs made mandatory by common sense in the market. Like the man says: " keep yer booger-picker off the bang switch!"
Anonymous | 1:08 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
I nominate this man for the 2009 Darwin award.
Funny man | 2:27 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
What a wonderful story. I truly impressed with this kid.
Teeth | 3:44 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Did he use a toilet seat cover? Those public toilets seats can be kind of sticky
and that could possible have contributed to this unfortunate accident.
Eau de Toilet | 4:43 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
I believe in our right to have weapons, but I don�t think
that means wear one. People will be talking about the man who
�shot a toilet and lived� for a long
time. It will probably be a story �shot round the
world� in an email.
Did you hear about the man who was hunting and after several hours of no luck, decided to see how much fun it would be to shoot down a power line. After shooting the power line down he wondered how much fun it would be to urinate on the downed power line. Unfortunately for the man urinating on the power line, the circuit breaker failed leaving the power line hot� Needless to say, he fried his �you know what�. Luckily, the man lived. Unfortunately for the power company, the man sued them for a failed circuit breaker and damages to his person.
As with the gentleman who blew away the toilet bowl, on the surface it is comical and laughable, but the reality is, someone could get hurt. Just because you have a license to wear a concealed weapon, doesn�t mean you should. Consider leaving it at home.
Did you hear about the man who was hunting and after several hours of no luck, decided to see how much fun it would be to shoot down a power line. After shooting the power line down he wondered how much fun it would be to urinate on the downed power line. Unfortunately for the man urinating on the power line, the circuit breaker failed leaving the power line hot� Needless to say, he fried his �you know what�. Luckily, the man lived. Unfortunately for the power company, the man sued them for a failed circuit breaker and damages to his person.
As with the gentleman who blew away the toilet bowl, on the surface it is comical and laughable, but the reality is, someone could get hurt. Just because you have a license to wear a concealed weapon, doesn�t mean you should. Consider leaving it at home.
Anonymous | 5:10 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
"2009 Darwin Award"
Sorry, friend, you must die in the process of being stupid to win the Darwin award. The toilet's untimely death doesn't count.
Sorry, friend, you must die in the process of being stupid to win the Darwin award. The toilet's untimely death doesn't count.
@ Howdy | 5:15 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
Firearms with striker blocks will not and can not fire with out having the
trigger pulled. This idiot had the firearm fall from his holster and tried to
grab for it as it fell. By doing this he put his booger hook on the bang
switch. Look at the mechanics of the firearm in question and you will see it
can only be fired if the trigger is pulled.
Anonymous | 5:39 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
It must have been one of those low flow toilets...
Accidents happen | 6:47 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
My advice: Quit taking pot-shots at the poor guy. Pot...shots.
I'm coming to get you | 7:47 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
I'm sure this guy is now having bad toilet nightmares. NO, NO! NO! NO! I
didn't mean to shoot you!
Toilet Ghosts are the worst. Watch for the haunting of the over flowing toilet bowl, he's coming to get you.
Toilet Ghosts are the worst. Watch for the haunting of the over flowing toilet bowl, he's coming to get you.
MikeTheWaiterDotCom | 8:40 p.m. Jan. 15, 2009
let me get this right ... as for the female employee who was shaken and panicked
and experiencing chest pains ... would that qualify as an on the job accident???
lol
peace, mTw
peace, mTw
Anonymous | 12:41 p.m. Jan. 16, 2009
the people calling the guy an idiot for having a round loaded in the chamber are
idiots. so when the guy needs his gun because his life is in danger, is he going
to stop the criminal and ask if he'll wait to let him chamber a round
before attacking? if you carry a gun for protection, it has to be ready
instantly. you may not have time to chamber a round.
Alex Trebek | 12:58 p.m. Jan. 16, 2009
Sounds fishy. From what I gathered from all of you "experts"
it's not likely his gun would've gone off from a 3 foot drop. Maybe
he was going to rob the place and accidentally fired off a round into the
toilet. I hope he flushed first, because that mess would've been yucky...
WideStance | 3:01 p.m. Jan. 16, 2009
I feel vindicated reading about this incident. Now people may believe me and my
explanations for a certain incident in a men's room. I this gentleman had
been using a "wide stance" as I do. This whole unfortunate incident
might have been avoided.
L. Craig
L. Craig
Munch | 3:33 p.m. Jan. 16, 2009
Wow! This mental midget cooked up QUITE the "story" to tell the
POleece how he came to kill the commode.
I for one do not believe his "story". Having worn a handgun professionally for many years, and having driven a patrol car for same amopunt of time, I KNOW that he pulled the trigger. I've told hundreds of felons to "drop the gun" they did and NONE "accidentally went off". If they had, then I would hold a record for the most Felons shot.(so would a lot of other peace officers)
I'm "guessing" he cheaped out on spending on a holster(if he even HAD a holster), and when he dropped "trou" the "Ka-boom" happened. This is a case of negligence not accidental "mishandling. I for one think his carry permit should be withheld from him for awhile, so he can re-visit appropriate firearms handling procedures.
Again, in my professional experience in another state far larger in population than Utah, I've had hundreds of felons intentionally drop their loaded pistols and revolvers and NOT ONE "went off".
Charley-the-Commode-Killer had better learn how to handle his pistol, next time he might give himself a radical vasectomy.
I for one do not believe his "story". Having worn a handgun professionally for many years, and having driven a patrol car for same amopunt of time, I KNOW that he pulled the trigger. I've told hundreds of felons to "drop the gun" they did and NONE "accidentally went off". If they had, then I would hold a record for the most Felons shot.(so would a lot of other peace officers)
I'm "guessing" he cheaped out on spending on a holster(if he even HAD a holster), and when he dropped "trou" the "Ka-boom" happened. This is a case of negligence not accidental "mishandling. I for one think his carry permit should be withheld from him for awhile, so he can re-visit appropriate firearms handling procedures.
Again, in my professional experience in another state far larger in population than Utah, I've had hundreds of felons intentionally drop their loaded pistols and revolvers and NOT ONE "went off".
Charley-the-Commode-Killer had better learn how to handle his pistol, next time he might give himself a radical vasectomy.
Criminal | 4:21 p.m. Jan. 16, 2009
This man should be locked away for a long time, he is a danger to everyone!
adam | 7:22 p.m. Jan. 16, 2009
There is no way that any gun will ever go off if you follow one simple rule,
don't put your finger on the trigger! It it to bad that this person has to
give the concealed weapon permit holders a bad rep, so please my fellow C.W.P.
holders lets be responsible with our right to carry.
Dude quit fondling your tool in a public place anyway... only take it out at home to play with it.
Dude quit fondling your tool in a public place anyway... only take it out at home to play with it.
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