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BR and UofU Football | 7:23 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

BR is great, just like the UofU Football team. We have beat everyone that we played.

We should be #1 in state! Utes finished #2 but should have been #1.

What have we got to do? We beat everyone we played. I think we could be the Jazz.

Isn't life great!

What? | 7:28 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Bear River beat Hunter and won their first region game by 25 over Ben Lomond and still moved from ninth to tenth. What in the world is that all about?
Watch them hammer both Morgan and Ogden this week.

daniel mudrow | 8:05 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

go Trojans to beat rank 10 BR

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jfdasfd | 8:20 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

davis is the most over-rated team in the state...honestly the fact that they are that high is an outrage...who have they beat and who have they lost to???? that's absolute horse

lets be honest here . . . | 8:39 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

I dont understand deseret news. . .i mean come one davis? really? you going to put them that high . .just doesnt seem fair to some of the other great teams out there to put davis so far up just because of lasts year team . . .

Crazy | 8:52 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

If there is such a thing as a Salt Lake bias, these rankings prove it. Bear River is in Tremonton and many in Utah have no clue where that is.

question | 9:09 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Is Bear River arrogant enough to think they could beat Provo, (who is also unbeaten after playing much better competition than BR) Lone Peak or any of the other top 5 on the list?

All I have to say is keep dreaming and be glad that those teams would never stoop so low to play your team. They would crush you.

Dude | 9:23 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Relax....it is just some people's opinions....So Davis is ranked higher than you think they should be....life goes one....they'll move down if they are worse and your team will move up if they are better, it won't keep your team out of having a shot at state....just relax a little dude!

Pleasant Grove | 9:31 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Wow! Davis #5 and no Pleasant Grove?

lol | 9:33 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Bear river is good don't get me wrong, and I am sure all the sports writers in SLC know where Tremonton is....riverside, thatcher, dewyville, fielding maybe not, but Tremonton yes!

to jfdasfd | 9:46 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Since you asked.....Davis lost to Jordan, Alta, and West Jordan and they beat Logan, Bingham (on the road), Murray, Centenial (a Las Vegas team), and Layton....

RHS wolves | 9:53 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

I think Riverton will keep doing well if they have a balanced game and get everyone involved, but if they try to just run the game through their guards, they will struggle. hopefully they play tough against bingham.

BoBaMa | 9:56 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

5A

1. Skyline
2. Lone Peak
3. Davis
4. Bingham
5. West Jordan

4A

1. Provo
2. Orem
3. West
4. Olympus
5. Mtn. Crest

3A

1. Bear River
2. Bear River
3. Bear River
4. Bear River
5. Bear River

Digger Pride! | 10:03 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Jordan knocks off highly touted West Jordan, and stays at #15 in the rankings?

How on earth is Davis ranked so high? They have one quality win to their resume, and Jordan beat them head to head on their home floor! Jordan owns wins over #5 Davis, #7 West Jordan, and #17 Pleasant Grove, not to mention a better record playing a MUCH tougher schedule. Two of their three losses at the buzzer (one to #11 ranked Lehi), and their other loss was at #6 ranked Bingham in a game that was tied in the 4th quarter.

DNews has a love affair with the 2007-2008 Davis Darts, that for some reason is carrying over this year. Makes no sense...

Go Diggers!

To jfdasfd responder | 10:06 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

That Las Vegas team (Centennial) is 9-9 this season, I just looked it up on MaxPreps. Get Davis out of the rankings, they are 1-3 against other more deserving teams. Other than Bingham, they have beaten up on teams that stink!

Ryan Cuff | 10:17 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Where are all the Ryan fans now? How is Dixie doing this year?

DN isn't BCS dudes | 10:18 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

rankings here have NOTHNG to do with whether or not your team gets to the state tournament or how you get seeded.
the actual TEAMs will prove on the COURT how good they are and all the delusional fans' screaming and postulating make NO more difference than if you had never even noticed this article!
Utah has a lot of good teams and players so lets stop showing our IQ is less than a cow patty by claiming YOUR team can beat the JAZZ, UofU or even the top teams in the state based on preseason match ups OK?
to BR cubs-calm down and stop making fools of your self and your team and your town by making such totally delusional claims just because you have preseason wins over the worst teams in 4a and 5a.There are other undefeated teams in UTAH so Enjoy your teams' season without embarrasing everyone you represent with mindless babble!You have a good team yes but the best in the state? HAHAHAHAHA

ISN"T tremonton the place | 10:30 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

that makes and tests rockets and propulsion systems?
looks like that fuel has leaked into the water supply up there-it's causing delusions and totally irrational behaviour!BR cubs are great this year in 3a
but lets stop embarrasing your team, town , and school
with the insane rantings about being top in the state just because you barely beat the worst team in 5a and a bottom team in 4a OK?PROVO is undefeated too-so you can beat them?? hahahaha

Centennial | 10:32 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

I live in Vegas and Centennial is a cellar-dweller. They have no game. There 9 wins are against some really bad teams. Silverado is good.

West Jordan and Jordan | 10:53 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

This was an incredible game! Jordan pulled out a win in a great comeback, and they deserve to be ranked higher. However, WJ WAS killing the Beetdiggers and they lost on two free throws.

P-Town | 11:09 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Provo is AMAZNG!!
I swear its just too easy these days.
I cant wait to play Orem to see how strong they really are.
Just depends on if we win by twenty or more we will see
I bet that they are going to focus only on provo this week and lose to timpview!

but... Ya Provo owns just so you all know.

o and ya bear river who of good teams have you played? what teams that are on this ranking have you beat? ummm.... ya answer me that then see where you should be ranked. until then shut your lips

SHAKE-N-BAKE

ok | 11:12 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

So maybe if some of the people that have posted on this would pay as much attetion to their school work, job, family life any of those things that matter maybe just maybe you would be a little happier. When it's all said and done and the state champions are crowned does it really matter where you are ranked in the first week of region play. It's not like anybody is going to beat Lone Peak for 5A or Provo for 4A or Bear River for 3A anyway so does it matter if your ranked 15 or Davis is ranked high your team isnt going to win state anyway so does it really matter. Oh BTW coach Louie Wong of Timpview how is the recruting year going for football next year we would apperciate some comments on how it looks?????

T-town | 11:25 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Everyone knows where Tremonton is...geez! BR will get thier chance in the coming years to play 4A talent. They are only 70 or so kids away from 4A. Everyone knows where Provo is. They are so awesome and holy, just ask them!

back to jfdasfd | 11:22 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Dude...I said nothing of Centennial being a good team, I just told you were they are from.....just giving you the info you asked for....let the Dnews rank them how they feel....go check out MaxPreps high school rankings for the state if you don't like the Dnew's....it is just opinions.....

And as for you BoBaMa.....Bear River still has a tough road to hoe ahead of them....They already have bullseyes on their chest....why are you giving the rest of 3A so much ammo?

Bear River | 11:32 a.m. Jan. 13, 2009

WOW. We get it, you guys have a nice team and likely will win 3A, but don't think for a second you could compete with the 5A and 4A powerhouses. It is not like UTAH/MWC v SEC, it is like JuCo v D1A.

Hasn't Wayne baseball been unbeaten for several years? I guess they were better that Jordan, LP, Bingham or Timpanogos since those teams all lost at some point during the year and Wayne was unbeaten.

LOL

Wayne | 12:38 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Wayne is the number 1 program in the state if you are doing a fair comparision of all the teams. Playing teams of equal size, they dominate their classification as a 1A school. To me, that makes them the best program, with the best coach in the State.

BR | 12:42 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

I think the people making the "BR is better than everyone" comments on these boards are not real BR fans. We are not like that nor are the kids on the team. We do have a great team, but we are not arrogant about it. #10 in the state is a better ranking than any team we have ever had.

Anonymous | 1:05 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Bear River would definitely compete with even the best of the 4A/5A schools. Beat them? Not the majority of the time, but they'd definitely compete.

And as someone who follows Wayne baseball very closely, they wouldn't be able to compete very well with the programs you mentioned. I don't know if that's a great analogy though. Look at Judge baseball. They're a 3A school, as is Bear River, and they could have beaten about any Utah team on a given day last year. Don't be too quick to discredit the 3A schools. They have the size and most combine that with cohesiveness to put them in a spot to play with some very good big school teams.

More B.R. | 1:07 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

I agree with BR. I think that too many people that are intimatly connected to BR make posts here. I am BR all the way, but I think we should let them play the season before we crown anyone as the champ.I have watched many of our games and have seen some weaknesses. ie. freethrow shooting as a team. I think we should be happy with a top ten ranking. After all we are just plain ole country folk.

SLC Resident | 2:03 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

And some of the best plain ole country folk out there! ;)

Hey BR fans | 2:30 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

or people pretending to be BR fans.

You should be happy to be ranked #10. You are the dominant 3A team.

VS 4A= Basically the ranking only has Provo and Orem ranked higer (4A is a 2 team race anyway. MC is the only other 4A team better than BR.

VS 5A= 7 teams ranked higher. Unbeaten Skyline, 1 loss (in state) Bingham, LP and Riverton and maybe the best in the state WJ. Then 3 loss Davis and Alta. You may have an point to be #8. Lehi, Jordan, and PG would argue they are better. Being ranked between 8-15 is about right.

Swish | 3:18 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

oops I was thinking Lehi football....they are great in basketball-my bad. take them off the above list!

BULLDOGS!!!! | 3:45 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Go Provo High School! They were amazing at basketball when I was there and still are at the top of the state in 4A! Go PHS!!! p-p-p-r-o-o-o-o-v-o-p-r-o-o-v-o provo!

Anonymous | 4:16 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

i will be honest with the fact mountain view is better than people think... hopefully they can put up twenty against provo tomorow..

Anonymous | 5:15 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

The Darts don't need to be ranked, they will gladly go under the radar and make noise at state. They are starting to find their groove, and now they will glide through region 1 and do well at state.

Anonymous | 5:42 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

The Darts better be prepared for the State tournament. No matter what seed they get, they will have a very tough first round match up. Region 1 is matched up with Region 3 this year, which will send 4 very good teams. So far this year, they havent been able to stack up to the competition like they will need to in order to make some noise at the tournament. 1-3?? Thats not going to cut it.

Davis Fan | 8:00 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Sounds like there a lot of people afraid of Davis. Let your game do the talking.

It's o.k., I understand if you're afraid of the Darts.

What... | 8:18 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

does Ryan Cuff have to do with anything? Didn't he play 20 years ago?

Eagle 4 Life | 9:02 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Go Skyline!! Still undefeated!

jfdasfd | 9:04 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

re davis fan 8:00 pm

I'm a jordan fan and i think that in decemeber 3rd that we might have beat you...so i don't think that we are afraid of since we already beat you...

Hey Davis Fan | 9:31 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Didn't Jordan come up and knock you off earlier this season on your home floor? I was at the game, Jordan led by double figures for most of the second half. Yeah, we're SCARED! : )

Nice win in overtime over mighty Fremont tonight.

Skyline 11-0 | 10:14 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

Skyline is legit man they manhandled #6 Bingham most the game tonight they were up by like 15 for 3 quarters Bingham did have a nice comeback but not to mention skyline had 2 starters out.... with quality wins over Top 20 teams like West Jordan on the road (by 16) Olympus on the road bingham on the road and Mt. Crest and Highland the Eagles are legit and their the best team in 5A. Hands down. DNews start showing the eagles some love. Kevin Wagstaff OWNED Mason Sawyer in the WJ game and sawyer is the best PG in the state? He held him to 2 points and Osterloh is averaging like 20 a game and is a lockdown defender the eagles are L E G I T.

Re: Skyline 11-0 | 11:03 p.m. Jan. 13, 2009

I'm not going to lie, Skyline is very legit. Don't know why you would brag about beating Highland though. Region 6 is terrible. Except for Olympus. And occasionally West.

WAYNE RYAN CUFF | 8:03 a.m. Jan. 14, 2009

WAYNE IS THE LARGEST SCHOOL IN 1A. THEY SHOULD DOMINATE.

RYAN CUFF COACHES AT DIXIE(ONE OF THE SMALLER SCHOOLS IN 4A} BUT DON'T COUNT DIXIE OUT JUST YET!

NUMBERS ARE EVERYTHING! YOU 5A SCHOOLS TRY PLAYING AGAINST SCHOOLS WITH 4000 STUDENTS SO YOU CAN GET A REAL PERSPECTIVE.

Skyline | 9:34 a.m. Jan. 14, 2009

I had the opportunity to watch Skyline and Bingham last night and Skyline was rock solid. Besides the brain fart where they allowed three baskets in row to start the fourth, they didn't give Bingham a chance. The miners like to fluster teams with their bag of zone defenses but the eagles didn't fall victim and were poised the whole game. Ryan Osterloh is the axle that team works around and I was really impressed with him. He was poised and made sound decisions and at times just toyed with Clifford and Bingham. Might be time to start working on the man-to-man going into region Bingham because skyline showed the rest of the state how to dismantle not one, or two but three zone defenses. Osterloh is a stud and plays the game right!

re: Hey davis fan | 10:59 a.m. Jan. 14, 2009

Honestly Jordan, you know that if you played Davis tomorrow you would be scared because you know that they have found there groove, Davis played horrible against you, i think we all know the darts would come out victorious against the beatdiggers, and i dont mean by just a few points i'm talking about double digits beatdiggers, since we dominated bingham and they dominated you i think that proves the point.

kid above.. | 1:34 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009

head to head proves a lot more. Your statements a joke..

baby | 3:12 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009

west jordan has had some set backs and i think it is a good thing......the point isnt going undefeated during the whole year, its getting your team to peak at the right time. west jordan will peak near tournament time and take the title!!

Anonymous | 4:35 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009

GO WEST JORDAN

Wayne.......What!!! | 6:12 p.m. Jan. 14, 2009

You have got to be kidding me. Yes, as stated earlier Wayne is one of the largest in 1A, if not the largest. They are by no means "DOMINATING 1A". Last I checked a 6 and 4 record is not dominating. Shoot, they were beat on the 9th by like 26 on there home court. If you look at the box scores for the 9th they are the only on in the whole state not posted. Guess there to busy still pout'n. Just wondering why you are even looking @ Top 20. you will never see your school listed there.

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