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Re: David Anderson | 3:00 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
It is precisely because the Protestant population is so large that
Huckabee's comments were so irresponsible and damaging to Romney's
campaign. I agree it wasn't the only reason Romney failed to win the
nomination, but the fact that Huckabee spends "very little time"
thinking about Mormons misses the point: he cares a great deal about the
Protestant vote and making sure Romney doesn't get it.
Maxine | 3:09 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
I really do not understand why so many on this blog post would be offended by
someone asking about their belief.
I have been visited by those of the Morman faith who have encouraged me to ask questions about their faith. I do not get offended when they try to prove that I am wrong for being a member of Southern Baptist, one reason being is that this denomination is not my main source of faith.
I believe Gov. Huckabee has been unjustly criticized not because of his questions, but because he is a Southern Baptist.
I have been visited by those of the Morman faith who have encouraged me to ask questions about their faith. I do not get offended when they try to prove that I am wrong for being a member of Southern Baptist, one reason being is that this denomination is not my main source of faith.
I believe Gov. Huckabee has been unjustly criticized not because of his questions, but because he is a Southern Baptist.
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Re: myth buster | 3:18 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
This is ironic to have to correct the "myth buster." Romney never
claimed Huckabee or Rep. Paul divorced their wives, nor did he say he was the
only candidate still married to his first wife.
In regards to speculating about Romney making an "idol of money and power," and being a "liar," "scumbag," and "not even a true Mormon," you are free to think what you want, but haven't presented any reasons for your conclusions.
As far as Romney's background, I didn't know Romney's choice of school or his father had disqualified him from being president. Clearly it shouldn't qualify someone to president, but your suggestion that Romney is somehow disqualified on that basis is just as absurd.
If you think that Hucks, Palin, or Jindal are best qualified for the job, that's your prerogative, but so far it sounds like you're basing your decision more on personality than ability.
In regards to speculating about Romney making an "idol of money and power," and being a "liar," "scumbag," and "not even a true Mormon," you are free to think what you want, but haven't presented any reasons for your conclusions.
As far as Romney's background, I didn't know Romney's choice of school or his father had disqualified him from being president. Clearly it shouldn't qualify someone to president, but your suggestion that Romney is somehow disqualified on that basis is just as absurd.
If you think that Hucks, Palin, or Jindal are best qualified for the job, that's your prerogative, but so far it sounds like you're basing your decision more on personality than ability.
CaliMexifornia LDS-er | 3:23 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
Here in Mexifornia, we know about Double Speak...our politicians wrote the book!
Mike Huckabee seems to have that talent himself, and talk about changing
one's image during the Presidential election! Huckabee was a pitbull toward
his Republican opponents, especially toward Romney (and went after his jugular).
You will receive no sympathy from me for being "misunderstood",
Huckster...you're a bigot!
We experienced a litany of hate-speech during the Prop 8 push, especially toward the LDS Church. The Evangelicals and other Christian churches were very appreciative of the LDS cash flow toward the cause, but the Evy's made it clear that they didn't believe the LDS Church was "Christian" (Dr. James Dobson, for one).
Mike Huckabee hasn't changed his stance toward the Church either, but loves the millions of dollars attributed to the family values cause. "So we'll take the money, but you still can't join the club!" is what they are projecting. Who wants to be a member of a "club" that expends significant energies denouncing another religion?
Note: From a state which promotes TOLERANCE as a mantra, California's government didn't extended any to the LDS Church during the elections or Prop 8 campaigns. Another example of our bankrupt state's implosion!
We experienced a litany of hate-speech during the Prop 8 push, especially toward the LDS Church. The Evangelicals and other Christian churches were very appreciative of the LDS cash flow toward the cause, but the Evy's made it clear that they didn't believe the LDS Church was "Christian" (Dr. James Dobson, for one).
Mike Huckabee hasn't changed his stance toward the Church either, but loves the millions of dollars attributed to the family values cause. "So we'll take the money, but you still can't join the club!" is what they are projecting. Who wants to be a member of a "club" that expends significant energies denouncing another religion?
Note: From a state which promotes TOLERANCE as a mantra, California's government didn't extended any to the LDS Church during the elections or Prop 8 campaigns. Another example of our bankrupt state's implosion!
Huck4Life | 3:24 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
If you want to give a good impression of the Mormon faith, you are not
representing it very well with your hatred and unforgiving nature towards
Governor Huckabee. While there isn't a perfect one among us, Governor
Huckabee has apologized for the ONE comment he made that was taken out of
context and caused Mormons to become offended. He apologized to Romney in person
and publically. What more do you want from him? He has defended Mormons
nationally on his tv show recently with regards to prop 8. Governor Huckabee is
a good man, brilliant, and actually concerned with Americans not just in it for
his ego, like most. Please realize you do your religion more harm than The
Governor ever could by showing this hateful side of the Mormon faith!
Re: Maxine | 3:31 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
The only reason Huckabee's religion is noteworthy is because it undermines
the innocence of his comment, given that he recycled the same anti-Mormon
rhetoric that has been used ad nauseam by some other Southern Baptists. On the
other hand, Jimmy Carter is a great example of a Southern Baptist who
didn't make inflammatory statements like Gov. Huckabee. I think Mormons are
generally very open about sincere questions regarding their faith. The issue is
not someone asking questions regarding the Mormon faith, the issue is asking
loaded questions regarding the Mormon faith for political gain.
Re: Huck4Life | 3:48 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
The issue, for many, is that Huckabee seems to be incredibly duplicitous by
using anti-Mormon rhetoric during the primaries, then apologizing afterward as
if it were some big misunderstanding. It comes across like the shady lawyer who
makes an inflammatory statement in court to bias the jury. He doesn't mind
when the judge asks that the comment be stricken from the record because the
damage is already done. Obviously no one on this comment board (Mormon or
non-Mormon) is perfect, but many are angered by what appears to many to have
been a very calculating comment during a pivotal part of the primaries.
Re: image problem | 3:51 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
"We have a public image problem that stems in part from polygamy. Until the
Church strongly addresses that issue it will be that way."
They did...119 years ago.
They did...119 years ago.
To david Anderson | 4:44 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
There aint nutting good about huckabee.
dc | 4:53 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
Patrick posted: "I love the Mormons, but I think it's so funny that
you proselytize other Christians but feel persecuted when they don't accept
you as fully Christian. Kind of a double standard."
Please take a few minutes to deal with the beam in your eye before commenting on the mote you see in ours . . . your sentence above reflects the true "double standard"
LDS have no problem with evangelical proselyting as you suggest evangelicals do of LDS (and I continue to wonder at some important motivational reasons), the LDS perspective is that we allow Christians to believe they are Christians following Jesus of Nazareth. So instead of acknowleding such a double standard, they insult LDS members who live their lives as Christ asked of us.
The LDS issue with other Christian Churches isn't whether their members are "fully Christian", but rather if they have had an opportunity to partake of ordinances seen as fully valid by authority of Christ. Our teaching is that if evangelicals are honestly living as Christians, they will have an opportunity for such ordinances later, even if need be after death. Is the beam in the eye, ear, and heart?
Please take a few minutes to deal with the beam in your eye before commenting on the mote you see in ours . . . your sentence above reflects the true "double standard"
LDS have no problem with evangelical proselyting as you suggest evangelicals do of LDS (and I continue to wonder at some important motivational reasons), the LDS perspective is that we allow Christians to believe they are Christians following Jesus of Nazareth. So instead of acknowleding such a double standard, they insult LDS members who live their lives as Christ asked of us.
The LDS issue with other Christian Churches isn't whether their members are "fully Christian", but rather if they have had an opportunity to partake of ordinances seen as fully valid by authority of Christ. Our teaching is that if evangelicals are honestly living as Christians, they will have an opportunity for such ordinances later, even if need be after death. Is the beam in the eye, ear, and heart?
Re: Huck4Life | 5:07 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
One can accept an apology graciously and still not believe it was honestly
offered . . especially when it was followed by later events in following primary
states which belied its honesty.
Huck needs to actually stop making excuses for himself and blaming Romney for whatever . . I don't care whether the insult was only 11 words or even just 1 . . . he has no humility or honesty in all this political BS until he takes responsibility for himself, regardless of how nice of a person he may be otherwise.
Huck needs to actually stop making excuses for himself and blaming Romney for whatever . . I don't care whether the insult was only 11 words or even just 1 . . . he has no humility or honesty in all this political BS until he takes responsibility for himself, regardless of how nice of a person he may be otherwise.
Dear Huck4Life | 5:38 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
While I agree that Mormons are human and sometimes don't represent their
religion as well as they should, you're mistaken in assuming that everyone
who has posted here expressing opposition to Huckabee is Mormon. Additionally,
why is it that one can't express their opposition toward a person or cause
without being accused of hatred?
I accept Huckabee's apology, however I would NEVER vote for him and have a right to exercise a healthy skepticism of his motives. I believe, like so many others on this board, that his character lacks many virtues, and I take exception to the charge that this amounts to hatred. On the contrary, given the opportunity to meet I'm sure I would find him a warm and friendly, likeable guy.
Like so many on this board, my opinion of Huckabee isn't based soley on his Mormon comments but certainly enforced by them. Even in putting his comments aside, which I must do in accepting his apology, his record and actions in other matters would never earn my confidence or vote.
I accept Huckabee's apology, however I would NEVER vote for him and have a right to exercise a healthy skepticism of his motives. I believe, like so many others on this board, that his character lacks many virtues, and I take exception to the charge that this amounts to hatred. On the contrary, given the opportunity to meet I'm sure I would find him a warm and friendly, likeable guy.
Like so many on this board, my opinion of Huckabee isn't based soley on his Mormon comments but certainly enforced by them. Even in putting his comments aside, which I must do in accepting his apology, his record and actions in other matters would never earn my confidence or vote.
Snake Oil Salesman | 5:36 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
*Battle of Banjo's playing in background* "Times are tough. My
customers are leaving in droves. What's a pastor to do without a flock of
sheeple. I got to stoke the fire by picking on the 'mormon's'.
I'll just make good later... "God Maker's" is on. Popcorn is
hot and ready, and for $24.99 you too can visit and take part in our
'anointing'! Feel free to call our 'Bill Keller' prayer line
and we'll save your soul! $4.99 per minute...goes to a good cause though,
(Jag needs a new transmission)...you have my good 'word'.
Texas Mom | 6:49 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
I worked on Mitt's campaign here in the Dallas area (baptist bible belt
country). I also saw first hand how unchristian Huckabee is. I was disapointed
at the so called minister and at the baptist community. I learned very quickly
about their plan from some baptist friends and a baptist minister. They only
wanted him to lose becasue he was a Mormon even though he was and will always be
more qualified that Huckabee. How sad. I believe Huckabee to be a very
dishonest person.
Shelby | 7:19 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
correction:
And if Romney runs in 2012--he'll have my vote just as he did in LAST year's primary.
And if Romney runs in 2012--he'll have my vote just as he did in LAST year's primary.
Missionary Jim | 8:57 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
Well, can we send the missionaries over to your home Mr. Huckeebee? You would
make a great Mormon.
Polly A | 9:07 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
Huckabee asked one question which was taken out of context from a long
interview, but he has never said a disparaging word about Mormonism. That's
the facts.
He did, however, criticize Romney's policies, motives and campaign tactics.
He did, however, criticize Romney's policies, motives and campaign tactics.
Anonymous | 9:20 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
One impressive quality that Obama has is that he doesn't go down to the
level of some of the politicians..not to say that I am not very very worried
about his philosophies and politics. Huck went way down there...and so did
McCain...seems that Mitt was always on the defensive.
to shelby | 9:53 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
Big deal! One vote
Can we get a transcript.... | 11:05 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
If Huckabee wants to prove his statement that he has never said anything bad
about the Mormons, please get us a copy of the transcripts from the SBC
(Southern Baptist Convention's) meeting they held in Salt Lake City (that
he attended as a speaker) and we shall see.
Even if he did not state anything, I am willing to bet he supported and agreed with all other speakers. When he can produce that, I will believe him.
Even if he did not state anything, I am willing to bet he supported and agreed with all other speakers. When he can produce that, I will believe him.
California | 11:36 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
I recognized the unholy alliance struck between McCain and Huckabee. It was very
obvious. Their reason was to get the Mormon out. Even
McCain�s 90+ mother made a disparaging remark about Mormons
on TV. If Mitt had not been a Mormon it would have been completely different,
even if they didn't like him. I had read about
Huckabee�s stance on Mormons before he ran for President. I
have read a lot about Mitt Romney, his family as well as his father who was
Gov.of Michigan. It is a family with high morals and family values. On top of it
Mitt is very smart. He was the one that made the economy the issue during the
primary. He had the better credentials for solving our nations problems. I
realize that we are all different and we think different, but that is what keeps
our nation in balance.
Observer | 11:43 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009
I think you've all got too much time on your hands. You've wasted a
perfectly good Saturday on here ranting back and forth all day. 2012 is a long
time off. Why fuss about what Huckabee did or didn't mean at this point?
Who cares?
Steve Kittel | 12:16 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
What do we, as Mormons, want from Evangelicals and Huck's loyal base? To
be treated as Christians..treated normal...right? The comments that were said
during the primaries were abhorrent, true. The twisting of the LDS church and
the politicising in other denomination's churches equally bad.
Thing is the only way we're going to get past all of that is by reconciling. And as lame as Huck was being during the primaries, I gotta say I am pleased to see he came out to SL for this purpose.
So regardless of what anyone said, all of you posting comments that are against this reconciliation are doing nothing but further damaging the relationship when it's time to move on.
Forgive and forget, right?
Thing is the only way we're going to get past all of that is by reconciling. And as lame as Huck was being during the primaries, I gotta say I am pleased to see he came out to SL for this purpose.
So regardless of what anyone said, all of you posting comments that are against this reconciliation are doing nothing but further damaging the relationship when it's time to move on.
Forgive and forget, right?
Response to "Bad Advice" | 12:51 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
Posted: >>>Hmmmmm....that "bad advice" still allowed Romney
to compile more delegate votes than you gained and you kept campaigning for a
month or so AFTER Romney suspended his campaign.<<<
Correction... According to CNN.com, Politico, and RealClearPolitics, Huckabee earned more delegates than Romney, despite being outspent by a factor of at least 10 to 1. (Source: www.FEC.gov)
That was just one more comment posted here that is inaccurate, ignorant, and based on unfounded rumors.
I keep hearing people say, "Huckabee bashed Mormons." But I have NEVER seen anyone document one thing Huckabee said about LDS that was untrue or mean. The one and only comment Huckabee made was asking if Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. Mormons were furious, but if you look it up, you will find it's true. Go to w w w . L D S . o r g and search for "Jesus Satan brothers Ensign."
Correction... According to CNN.com, Politico, and RealClearPolitics, Huckabee earned more delegates than Romney, despite being outspent by a factor of at least 10 to 1. (Source: www.FEC.gov)
That was just one more comment posted here that is inaccurate, ignorant, and based on unfounded rumors.
I keep hearing people say, "Huckabee bashed Mormons." But I have NEVER seen anyone document one thing Huckabee said about LDS that was untrue or mean. The one and only comment Huckabee made was asking if Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. Mormons were furious, but if you look it up, you will find it's true. Go to w w w . L D S . o r g and search for "Jesus Satan brothers Ensign."
George | 2:09 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
This man may share some of the same moral values with us, but he represents the
same group that is connected behind some anti literature. Do we really want to
put ourselves in the same boat with this man. He is a Southern Baptist Minister
whose convention produces and sponsors literature through the Utah Missions, Inc
from Marlow, OK and the ministry of Rev Walker from Dallas. Why doesn't
anyone ask him why his convention financially supports these ministries or if he
took a cults class in Baptist College working towards a ministry degree. These
people in private and from the pulpit are not generous or charitable towards us.
I went to their colleges and came back to the Church. I do not believe for one
minute his comments are out of context.
John | 3:06 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
Baptists and Evangelicals are dangerous cults. Mormons should pray that people
trapped in these dangerous and crazy cults will have the courage to leave.
JanC | 7:20 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
I, too was impressed with Huckabee in the beginning. As with all candidate I
was interested in, I went to his website and discussion forum. My positive view
of him changed quickly when I read all the vile hate-filled remarks from his
followers. If he did not agree with these remarks and feelings, he could have
put a stop to it. He could have changed the tone of his website, but he
didn't. You know very well that the candidates monitor their websites. He
knew all this hatred was going on in "his" ranks, but he did nothing
to change or disagree with the comments made by his followers.
In my opinion, he is known by his "fruits" and his associates just exactly as Obama was known by his.
He is a charismatic, entertaining speaker, but not an honest man - just another politician.
In my opinion, he is known by his "fruits" and his associates just exactly as Obama was known by his.
He is a charismatic, entertaining speaker, but not an honest man - just another politician.
Lois in NC | 7:38 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
I have digested every comment on this story. And some of them have summed up
Huckabee's character or his anti Mormon comments very correctly. I do think
he intended to portray Rommey as "not a christian" and therefore
elevate himself to the evangelical community as the one christian they should
trust and support, therefore creating unfavorable feelings toward Mormons in
general. If he had been truely sorry for his comments to the NY times, he would
have gone to Romney in person and private to apologize but he chose to go before
the nation to get more attention to himself. Most people can see through that
kind of tactics.
Anonymous | 9:04 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
John,
They do. I hear them telling about it every week in Church!
They do. I hear them telling about it every week in Church!
Disciple | 9:16 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
In my working life I spent 40 years working in a highly technical field. None of
us had the time or luxury of worrying about what our coworkers religeous beliefs
were. Our main concern had to be, is this person qualified to do their job
properly? I am amazed that people can argue over what others religous beliefs
are. I think this puts us on the same level as those people in the mideast and
around the world who have been killing each other over religion for thousands of
years.
twister61 | 9:25 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
I agree with the writer from Dallas. I worked on the campaign here in Iowa for
Mitt,and Huckabee never had a kind word to say about Mitt or the mormans. He is
very dishonest and far from being a decent Baptist minister! He is a "snake
in the grass"!
Re: Response to "Bad Advice" | 10:03 a.m. Jan. 11, 2009
The LDS church believes that Lucifer and Christ are spiritual siblings in the
same sense that Adolf Hitler and Mother Theresa were spiritual siblings. That
is, that God created us all, but that we make our own choices and determine our
own outcome, and that original creation is oftentimes the only thing we may have
in common with another individual. We do not believe that Satan and the Savior
share similar traits or behaviors or anything else, for that matter, nor do we
believe that God created the devil for the pure sake of creating evil in the
world. Just as Hitler's mother created a life that later used his own
agency and went horribly astray, Lucifer, using his agency, turned his back on
all the divine truth and knowledge he was given, and became the monster we know
him as today. Huckabee's comment was calculated to give the worst possible
twist on the doctrine that he could give, and his apology rings false. We may
accept his apology, and we may begin to forgive him for his actions, but that
does not mean we will trust or support him in the future.
awsomeron | 1:33 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
Huck is okay, I really do not care what he thinks either way.
Mitt is going to get the Big Call from Salt Lake. Weather or Not he picks up the phone is another matter.
Both Salt Lake and Mitt have each others Number on their Speed Dial.
Mitt is going to get the Big Call from Salt Lake. Weather or Not he picks up the phone is another matter.
Both Salt Lake and Mitt have each others Number on their Speed Dial.
From my experience... | 2:23 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
Re: 10:03
The LDS church believes in Lucifer .
The LDS church believes in Lucifer .
Re: Disciple | 2:34 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
Finally! Someone who gets it, sees the absurdity of all of this.
Get over it, and let's come together for the common conservative good of this country!
If you haven't watched "Huckabee" on Fox News Channel, Sat&Sun 8pm, please tune in. I think you will be surprised and perhaps learn how to interact with people who you may not agree with. It's really something to behold, as there are not many programs like this out there.
Huckabee, himself, has people on who he does not agree with, but he is civil, and kind, and the other person is free to state their point of view.(like Richard Dreyfuss, like Jerry Springer, like Ann Coulter, who was on last night's show)
We need to bring this type of RESPECT back. Agree to disagree.
What I'm reading on here is waaaay judgemental, self-righteous, and unforgiving.
Do you think God is pleased with this? I mean, what is the point? Let's come together for the good of the conservative movement in this country. If not, we are up that creek, without a paddle...
Get over it, and let's come together for the common conservative good of this country!
If you haven't watched "Huckabee" on Fox News Channel, Sat&Sun 8pm, please tune in. I think you will be surprised and perhaps learn how to interact with people who you may not agree with. It's really something to behold, as there are not many programs like this out there.
Huckabee, himself, has people on who he does not agree with, but he is civil, and kind, and the other person is free to state their point of view.(like Richard Dreyfuss, like Jerry Springer, like Ann Coulter, who was on last night's show)
We need to bring this type of RESPECT back. Agree to disagree.
What I'm reading on here is waaaay judgemental, self-righteous, and unforgiving.
Do you think God is pleased with this? I mean, what is the point? Let's come together for the good of the conservative movement in this country. If not, we are up that creek, without a paddle...
Re: From my experience... | 2:45 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
Yes, that would explain why it's called the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints.
Re: Observer | 2:46 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
"Why fuss about what Huckabee did or didn't mean at this point? Who
cares?"
Good point. After all, it's only the leader of the free world we're talking about.
Good point. After all, it's only the leader of the free world we're talking about.
Re: Response to "Bad Advice" | 2:54 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
You're correct in pointing out that Huckabee did eventually get more
delegates than Romney. What you conveniently fail to mention is that he only did
so several weeks after Romney dropped out of the race because he was behind.
Next time tell the whole story before chastising others for comments you feel
are "inaccurate, ignorant, and based on unfounded rumors." Others
might just as easily accuse you of the same.
To Re: Disciple | 3:46 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
You're certainly free to view Huckabee as the poster child of
"respect" and "civility," but others are equally free to
view Huckabee in a less-favorable light. What would be "absurd" is to
not have healthy debates regarding Huckabee's, and any other
politician's, integrity and motives. As citizens work to elect the future
leaders of this country, that discourse will do much more long-term good than
simply "coming together" around any politicians who call themselves a
conservative.
Anonymous | 5:51 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
Everyone on here is upset because He wouldnt accept Mormons as christians. But
your definition of Christ is different than the bible. So therefor he was
right. MOrmons are not christian.
Re: Anonymous | 8:03 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
As far as I'm aware Huckabee never said that, nor have I seen a single post
discussing that issue. I'm sure you'd like to stir the pot with
off-topic remarks, but I doubt anyone will take the bait.
basement writ | 9:02 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
The fact that LDS are not considered "Christian" by Evangelicals must
be tempered by the thought, perhaps, that would LDS WANT to be considered
"Christian" in light of what evangelicals believe alone? Differences
of "opinion" about the Godhead are not slight, and the LDS does
not/need not make any apologies for their beliefs, and would not make
concessions or revisions of beliefs in order to be "accepted" by these
other groups. The LDS can and does stand on its own.
Huckabee is entitled to his beliefs. The LDS are entitled to theirs. Lets move on now, working together where mutually beneficial, and be cordial, letting God judge. The rock and foundation on which the LDS stands does not/will not change. Just move on.
Huckabee is entitled to his beliefs. The LDS are entitled to theirs. Lets move on now, working together where mutually beneficial, and be cordial, letting God judge. The rock and foundation on which the LDS stands does not/will not change. Just move on.
kakawarazu | 9:28 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
Yes, he is trying to make nice, but, of course, Mike Huckabee also knows that if
he is the Republican nominee (for any office), he would STILL get the Mormon
vote, as long as his opponent is a Democrat.
Re: Anonymous @ 5:51 | 9:51 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
The LDS definition of Christ is the Savior and Redeemer of the world, the
literal Son of God in the flesh. He condescended to come to earth to save us
from our sins, so that if we repent and are baptized on His name, and follow His
commandments, we may somebody be able to return to Him and to the Father. How is
that different from the way other "Christians" view Him?
Seattleview | 11:14 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
The basis for most everyones criticisum of Huckabee is that he has used religion
as the reason not to vote for Romney (even though their social positions are
near identical) and not necessarily Romneys political positions. That is the
crux of it and it will be the same in the future. Now he wants us to think
"that Mormons make the best public servents"? Get real.
I have my own differences with Romneys political positions but I think he was a better political candidate than Huckabee.
Our two worst presidents (Carter and Bush) have been Evengelicals. It might be helpful in getting elected but it has not helped them in leading our country.
I am not willing to fall for Huckabee's sales pitch.
I have my own differences with Romneys political positions but I think he was a better political candidate than Huckabee.
Our two worst presidents (Carter and Bush) have been Evengelicals. It might be helpful in getting elected but it has not helped them in leading our country.
I am not willing to fall for Huckabee's sales pitch.
Jan | 11:36 p.m. Jan. 11, 2009
I can't believe that the comments have gone on for this long!!!
There are a lot of real negative comments here.
It will be a l o n g time before we have to deal with if we will or will not vote for Huchabee for President.
Why don't we wait and see what happens in these years? Why continue to fight this battle right now?
I did not vote for him - he may change - some people do.. maybe he learned some lessons.. who's to say.. Why keep bashing?
There are many problems that are here and now that need our attention - why not worry about them instead?
Bashing is bashing - weather in person, over the phone, whatever - and in the light of church communication it is NEVER acceptable. We have been warned about this over and over by our leaders.
We know that we are Christians - God knows that we are Christians..
HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!!!
There are a lot of real negative comments here.
It will be a l o n g time before we have to deal with if we will or will not vote for Huchabee for President.
Why don't we wait and see what happens in these years? Why continue to fight this battle right now?
I did not vote for him - he may change - some people do.. maybe he learned some lessons.. who's to say.. Why keep bashing?
There are many problems that are here and now that need our attention - why not worry about them instead?
Bashing is bashing - weather in person, over the phone, whatever - and in the light of church communication it is NEVER acceptable. We have been warned about this over and over by our leaders.
We know that we are Christians - God knows that we are Christians..
HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!!!
Robert LaChance | 6:51 a.m. Jan. 12, 2009
Huckabee may say what he wants. The reality is he is an anti-Mormon. The book, A
Different God? Mitt Romney, the Religious Right and the Mormon Question goes
into detail about Huckabee's attacks against Romney and the LDS Church.
Ronnie | 8:12 a.m. Jan. 12, 2009
Think about it for a minute, why would Huckabee like the mormons; even the
mormons don't like the mormons, but I love the mormons they make my day.
FACTS | 8:27 a.m. Jan. 12, 2009
Huckabee's problem with Mitt is that Mitt ran negative ads in Iowa (based
on policy) to blunt his late surge. That is where the problem started. I agree
with Huckabee on that one. Mitt should have stayed positive and let the chips
fall where they may.
Huckabee had similar ads (based on policy) to run against Mitt. He didn't air them except to the press. If he had aired them there would have been no backlash in Utah because of it.
The backlash is based on the subtle comments ("Don't Mormons believe Jesus and Satan are brothers?" or to Evangelicals "I am one of you") which were designed to peel away support from Mitt based on his faith.
It makes us believe there is a litmus test for public service which excludes members of our faith. It also reminds us of the evangelical street preachers at General Conference who harass and annoy people who simply want to attend a religous service.
It is unfortunate because when it comes to public policy, economic and moral, I agree with Huckabee over 90% of the time.
Huckabee had similar ads (based on policy) to run against Mitt. He didn't air them except to the press. If he had aired them there would have been no backlash in Utah because of it.
The backlash is based on the subtle comments ("Don't Mormons believe Jesus and Satan are brothers?" or to Evangelicals "I am one of you") which were designed to peel away support from Mitt based on his faith.
It makes us believe there is a litmus test for public service which excludes members of our faith. It also reminds us of the evangelical street preachers at General Conference who harass and annoy people who simply want to attend a religous service.
It is unfortunate because when it comes to public policy, economic and moral, I agree with Huckabee over 90% of the time.
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I think the church's greatest image problem comes from misinformation. Some of it is from ignorance, some from former/Anti Mormons, and some from other churches.
For some reason, most non-Mormons are afraid to ask their Mormon friends questions (perhaps because we are over-zealous in our response) and find their information from outside sources.
My policy has always been to quickly and accurately answer the question and leave it at that. You'd be surprised how much more interested people are when you do that. Someone's simple question does not need to be answered with all 7 discussion right on the spot.
As for Huckabee, I like him and I'm not offended by him at all. However, I don't think he will win the nomination in 2012 because he's no match for Obama. We need someone with a lot more star power, unfortunately, to beat a historic incumbent next time.