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Obama wants pork-free plan
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Hannity hype... | 6:13 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
After listening to Sean Hannity for years, it finally occurred to me that I was
just wasting my time. All I heard was complaints about the democrats. This
bothered me because it's THE SAME on the republican side. I did not vote
for Obama, but I think he may end up being a very good President.
Jim III | 6:45 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
This article brings forth more evidence that Obama is slightly out of touch with
political reality.
While I like the prospect of a spending bill getting passed that does not have some sort of pork in it, the sad reality is that members of both the republican and democratic parties will still try to sneak a bunch of pork through the process.
Obama will propose a bill that he feels will be in the best interest of the country, with no allowance for pork in his eyes.
However, once Congress gets their hands on the bill, too many of them will try to sneak their favorite pork into bill.
This will include both democratic and republican members of Congress.
They will try various strategies to force President Obama to accept the pork in the bill.
Will President Obama be able to get a pork free bill passed? Maybe, maybe not.
One way is to put the bill way out in the public sunshine so every citizen who cares can look at it.
When a congress critter puts pork in it, President Obama will need to expose who put it in and why.
While I like the prospect of a spending bill getting passed that does not have some sort of pork in it, the sad reality is that members of both the republican and democratic parties will still try to sneak a bunch of pork through the process.
Obama will propose a bill that he feels will be in the best interest of the country, with no allowance for pork in his eyes.
However, once Congress gets their hands on the bill, too many of them will try to sneak their favorite pork into bill.
This will include both democratic and republican members of Congress.
They will try various strategies to force President Obama to accept the pork in the bill.
Will President Obama be able to get a pork free bill passed? Maybe, maybe not.
One way is to put the bill way out in the public sunshine so every citizen who cares can look at it.
When a congress critter puts pork in it, President Obama will need to expose who put it in and why.
Oh really | 7:14 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
That's rich, coming from Obama.
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Stimulus=pork | 7:40 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
The whole thing is a pork project. Instead of markets deciding where to invest,
government will decide. No good can come of this. Even Eisenhower's vaunted
"highway system" just provided artificial government impetus for
suburban sprawl, foreign oil addiction, and a less efficient transportation
system than what were then thriving railroads.
Keep the tax cuts and let markets decide how they are spent.
Keep the tax cuts and let markets decide how they are spent.
Dave | 7:47 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Obamas stimulas proposal is all pork. It is all perspective.
shuttdlrl@aol.com | 7:49 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
It sounds as if he is adding more to our tax debt by hiring more people for his
economic recovery. We need to cut government spending and government. I was
hoping he would make a change and not hire the same people who have led us into
debt since FDR.
An average taxpayer just trying to stay alive.
shuutdlrl@aol.com
An average taxpayer just trying to stay alive.
shuutdlrl@aol.com
lost in DC | 7:54 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
I used to refer to Pelosi as queen nancy because of the regal and gloating
attitude she took on a talk show proclaiming, "I'M third in line for
the PRESIDENCY!" But I think now "queen of the earmarks" works
just as well. BO's dreaming if he thinks he can get something out of
congress that is anything less than 65% fat.
Leon Panetta?! | 7:55 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Did Mr. Obama steal the Clintons Rolodex?
benchwarmer | 8:53 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
"not hire the same people who have led us into debt since FDR" now
that's rich... Have you taken a look at the economic statistics since the
last administration of "W" has been in office? Who hired whom that led
us into debt????? Have you been living out of the country? I'm a business
woman who loves to make money. However, I am ashamed at my colleagues who have
gutted our manufacturing base and were never interested in the
"MARKETS" doing anything for this country except padding the books of
investors. I am an investor too but I prefer to make my money the old-fashioned
way - EARN IT FAIR AND SQUARE.
Anonymous | 10:02 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Thank god, we will have a leader in the White House. Obama listens to experts.
Bush won't take General Franks advice that American would need more troops.
Brother Chuck Schroeder | 10:09 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Who "pads-more-pork" in Bill's then Biden?. Who'll watch
Biden when he has "PORK" stuffed in Bill's?. He's been doing
PORK for the past 32 years, what makes you or Obamacon THINK he'll stop
this addiction?. That would be like telling BHO to stop smoking right now.
Klingon Vice President-select Joe Biden, who oddly was sworn in to a seventh
Senate term, his new job notwithstanding. He'll resign from the Senate
before he's sworn into higher office with President-select Obamacon at the
end of the month The well-statured Joe Biden not so warrior race has a genetic
predisposition to hostility and a well-known streak of fatalism. Lieutenant Worf
says that Klingons do not like to be "probed" by empathic Republican
species. The culture's socialist utopian warrior ethic runs so deep that
rivals in the civil war can meet and drink as equal fighters for periods of time
before or after battles, thanks to the Capitol City's neutrality. During
these get-togethers, a great deal of growling, wrestling, snarling and generally
loud revelry takes place, Klingons seeming to derive tremendous satisfaction
from drinking with their enemies on the night before a battle.
All Waste is Local! | 11:38 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Utah is submitting its share of lard-barrel projects to Obama. The UTA rail
projects have the utility and need and reasonableness of a porkchop resting at
the top of a barrel of lard.
Utah is dumping $20 billion tax dollars taken from car users into UTA for an insignificant, 1.5% transit contribution to our mobility. Now UTA wants $2.2 billion from the feds. This is nuts.
UTA has a list of 11 rail projects it wants $2.2 Billion to fund. The Governor has such a respect for Democracy that he feels the need to hide the details of UTA's projects. He will not give me details of the eleven UTA rail boondoggles.
An example of insanity in UTA's rail projects, the West valley TRAX extension will cost over $700 million tax-dollars but give only 0.00% impact, according to UTA's Final Environmental Study Report, on regional vehicle miles traveled in the WFRC area. THAT is porkchop on a lard-barrel cost-benefit.
Utah should, instead, lead the nation toward our traditional values. WE desparately need a public review of the costs and benefits of UTah's submissions for the national Infrastructure stimulus.
DesNews should lead in demanding details and debating this critical issue.
Utah is dumping $20 billion tax dollars taken from car users into UTA for an insignificant, 1.5% transit contribution to our mobility. Now UTA wants $2.2 billion from the feds. This is nuts.
UTA has a list of 11 rail projects it wants $2.2 Billion to fund. The Governor has such a respect for Democracy that he feels the need to hide the details of UTA's projects. He will not give me details of the eleven UTA rail boondoggles.
An example of insanity in UTA's rail projects, the West valley TRAX extension will cost over $700 million tax-dollars but give only 0.00% impact, according to UTA's Final Environmental Study Report, on regional vehicle miles traveled in the WFRC area. THAT is porkchop on a lard-barrel cost-benefit.
Utah should, instead, lead the nation toward our traditional values. WE desparately need a public review of the costs and benefits of UTah's submissions for the national Infrastructure stimulus.
DesNews should lead in demanding details and debating this critical issue.
Utah Infastructure | 11:49 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Light rail and commuter trains seems like a great way to ensure mobility in a
state with an exploding population.
UTA transportation will be a God send in the very near future. I wish they could complete these projects much sooner than scheduled.
UTA transportation will be a God send in the very near future. I wish they could complete these projects much sooner than scheduled.
Anonymous | 12:27 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Isn't Obama saying he will cut pork about the same as the fox guarding the
henhouse?
Utah Transit Outfrastructure | 12:25 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
"Utah Infrastructure" has given us a wonderful testimony based on
blind, ignorant , faith in the UTA propaganda picture of transit. It is too bad
so many people have this blind faith. They will not look at the actual data
showing the general lack of utility of rails versus roads.
Sure spending billions on trains will help a relative few who live or work in the downtown area or in new Transit Oriented Design communities along those rails. But, the $20 billion I mentioned above is taken from roads, particularly high-performance freeways.
Also, UTA is cutting back and short-changing bus service in the suburbs. I have seen bus service in my area decline by over 95% since UTA went on the TRAX binge. Most bus routes in the south-western valley have been cut-back or eliminated.
Besides the way train projects are draining away and wasting needed car-user-paid billion$, they fail to connect to our neighborhoods in the suburbs. That is why the progressive bleeding away of bus service in the suburbs has been critical. The bus-rail paradigm that UTA hyped for a decade is a gross failure for most of the Wasatch Front.
Utah values should displace/condemn transit fraud.
Sure spending billions on trains will help a relative few who live or work in the downtown area or in new Transit Oriented Design communities along those rails. But, the $20 billion I mentioned above is taken from roads, particularly high-performance freeways.
Also, UTA is cutting back and short-changing bus service in the suburbs. I have seen bus service in my area decline by over 95% since UTA went on the TRAX binge. Most bus routes in the south-western valley have been cut-back or eliminated.
Besides the way train projects are draining away and wasting needed car-user-paid billion$, they fail to connect to our neighborhoods in the suburbs. That is why the progressive bleeding away of bus service in the suburbs has been critical. The bus-rail paradigm that UTA hyped for a decade is a gross failure for most of the Wasatch Front.
Utah values should displace/condemn transit fraud.
Pork | 12:37 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
The entire bill will be pork!
Utah's "PORK PROJECTS" | 2:03 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
RE: 11:38 a.m. - Utah is submitting its share of lard-barrel projects to Obama.
The UTA rail projects have the utility and need and reasonableness of a porkchop
resting at the top of a barrel of lard. Utah is dumping $20 billion tax dollars
taken from car users into UTA for an insignificant, 1.5% transit contribution to
our mobility. Now UTA wants $2.2 billion from the feds. This is nuts.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT - Utah's secret society, of some richest 90 men, "suck-off the tax payers" daily from the government in pork project's, they are a organization of initiated persons whose members, purposes, and rituals are kept secret. Human groups throughout history have maintained secret societies. The ceremonies of initiation into such a society typically begin with an oath pledging secrecy as to all proceedings of the society, ascribing special obligations to its members, and assenting to penalties for violation of the oath.
Oh I forgot, they call this not pork spending and project's in Utah, they call it "a blessing."
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT - Utah's secret society, of some richest 90 men, "suck-off the tax payers" daily from the government in pork project's, they are a organization of initiated persons whose members, purposes, and rituals are kept secret. Human groups throughout history have maintained secret societies. The ceremonies of initiation into such a society typically begin with an oath pledging secrecy as to all proceedings of the society, ascribing special obligations to its members, and assenting to penalties for violation of the oath.
Oh I forgot, they call this not pork spending and project's in Utah, they call it "a blessing."
Anonymous | 2:13 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Utah received the largest pork in 2002 with 3.2 billion. LA held a Summer Games
and they made money.
Obama HAH | 4:58 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Apparently no one has ever told Obama that there is no way you can borrow your
way out of debt. Why are we as Americans allowing this to even happen. It is
time that Americans take back this country and cut the BS spending out of the
government. We need return the Federal reserve back into the hands of the
government an get it out of the hands of the bankers. Then the inflated
interest that we owe to the bankers needs to be canceled. This would eliminate
billions of dollars that America should never have owed. Thus economy problem
solved.
The current owners of the national treasury have more wealth than than they, their children, and all of the grandchildren could spend in all of their life times.
How long will the American people stand by and allow our precious constitution to be trampled into the ground. It is time we take a stand and take back OUR GOVERNMENT.
The current owners of the national treasury have more wealth than than they, their children, and all of the grandchildren could spend in all of their life times.
How long will the American people stand by and allow our precious constitution to be trampled into the ground. It is time we take a stand and take back OUR GOVERNMENT.
Bro Chuck's Rant n Rave | 5:19 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
I have just learned something about "pork spending". It seems the guy
from "girls gone wild" videos as well as Larry Flint from Hustler
magazine, are "going to Washington" to ask Congress for some of that
auto bail out monies, around $6 Billion, because they think porn is as American
as apple pie, their sales of video's have dropped in the past year some
30%, they lost money, plus they want to revitalize America and believes everyone
needs porn. I am sure they'll try to get House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to
press top congressional Democrats to "pad this pork" into their
agenda's, and call it a massive economic stimulus recovery bill. And then
get President-elect Barack H. Obama to sign it as soon as he takes Office.
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