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Ed McAllister | 7:16 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
From my experiences with these sorts of folks, i find that, rather than them
being prepared because its' a good idea, they're preparing for some
sort of church foretold apocalypse. That's fine, but it makes a lot of them
kind of goofy, believing in short term forthcoming disaster enough to act on
it. They're not reacting to good ideas. They're reacting to fear.
Stan | 7:23 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Good for him.
lindal | 7:36 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
What a great guy! I admire what he is doing for his family and
"neighbor!"
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to Ed | 7:56 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Ever heard the story of the ant and the grasshopper? In these tough economic
times, perhaps you should think it over, grasshopper. OR if things get bad,
best be nice to Ken, maybe he'll share a can of chile with you.
@ Ed | 7:59 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
You obviously didn't read this article very closely. This guy has
experienced the need to live on food storage. He is motivated by past
experience, not craziness. And let's be honest, a food shortage alread
happened temporarily about a year ago. To me, that just means it is a very real
possibility that as a result of some natural disaster or weather patterns, we
could easily see a 6 month to 1 year meltdown of the food supply.
I just hope you have lot's and lot's of money to pay the outrageous prices you will see when something like that occurs. As for me, I would rather buy the food while it is affordable and have the sense of security that comes with knowing that I already have the food to feed my family.
I just hope you have lot's and lot's of money to pay the outrageous prices you will see when something like that occurs. As for me, I would rather buy the food while it is affordable and have the sense of security that comes with knowing that I already have the food to feed my family.
Yelnek | 8:02 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
You know Ed, The Church doesn't preach apocalypse or doom and gloom, the
church teaches good sense and kindness towards neighbors. I agree that someone
outside of the norm can seem goofy to us but if the day ever comes, not only
Ken, but his neighbors will be greatful for his foresight.
Frankly, if you look at the history of the world, of all civilizations that ever existed, it's not a question of if a major catastrophe will come but a question of when. I hope I can be a neighbor like Ken.
Frankly, if you look at the history of the world, of all civilizations that ever existed, it's not a question of if a major catastrophe will come but a question of when. I hope I can be a neighbor like Ken.
John S. | 8:07 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
The key to food storage is buy what you use and use what you buy.
My parents were very successful at it. We had a large garden and a nice basement storage room. We didn't have to go to the store very often and if we would have had an emergency, we would have been okay. There was very little waste because the storage room was in a basement on the cool side of the house.
Stores only have a few days supply. If there is an emergency, they can run out quickly. Also don't forget to have water, batteries, money, and other essentials on hand.
My parents were very successful at it. We had a large garden and a nice basement storage room. We didn't have to go to the store very often and if we would have had an emergency, we would have been okay. There was very little waste because the storage room was in a basement on the cool side of the house.
Stores only have a few days supply. If there is an emergency, they can run out quickly. Also don't forget to have water, batteries, money, and other essentials on hand.
San Franciscan | 8:28 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Something's fishy here. No one was left on the San Francisco Bay Bridge
for 3 days during the '89 earthquake. Even the woman who was in the car in
the section of upper deck that collapsed was rescued the same day. People left
their cars and walked off the bridge that day.
There was a section of freeway in Oakland that collapsed and people were trapped, some for a couple of days. In those cases the vehicles were squashed like bugs and survivors, particularly those trapped for more than a day certainly would not have been able to squirm around to find an emergency supply of food in their truck. Even so that was several miles from the bridge.
Congrats to him for having his food storage. But thumbs down for creating stories that can't be true.
There was a section of freeway in Oakland that collapsed and people were trapped, some for a couple of days. In those cases the vehicles were squashed like bugs and survivors, particularly those trapped for more than a day certainly would not have been able to squirm around to find an emergency supply of food in their truck. Even so that was several miles from the bridge.
Congrats to him for having his food storage. But thumbs down for creating stories that can't be true.
To Ed, | 8:33 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Why is it that when those on the left preach the gospel of global warming and
predict catastrophes if we don't do drastic things to cut our "carbon
footprint" they are called insightful and reasonable, but if a religious
person puts away some emergency supplies, he is a religious nut?
This guy is okay | 8:34 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Since when is it crazy to put away food, to be out of debt, to keep your skills
current so you can find employment, to take care of your health, to be
charitable to others in need, to accept charity if you need it? To plant a
garden.
All these things to me sound like prudent living. The fact that this guy has 6 years worth to me sounds like he is keeping extra and will be able to help others should a time of great need arise.
He could have bought a boat or a fancy car with that money or a motor home, but he chose this instead.
He is different but definately not crazy.
All these things to me sound like prudent living. The fact that this guy has 6 years worth to me sounds like he is keeping extra and will be able to help others should a time of great need arise.
He could have bought a boat or a fancy car with that money or a motor home, but he chose this instead.
He is different but definately not crazy.
Matthew | 8:55 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
It didn't say he was trapped on the bridge for 3 days! It says that you
used his 72 hour kit in his truck. A lot of people couldn't get from where
they were to home after the Loma Prieta (AKA World Series) Earthquake. It is
legal to use your 72 hour kit for an emergency that only lasts a day, 8 hours,
or even if you happen to run out of diapers in the diaper bag while out
shopping.
Read what is actually written, not what you imagine.
Read what is actually written, not what you imagine.
To San Franciscan | 9:16 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
I've met Ken and heard him speak, and his story of being left on the San
Francisco Bay bridge makes sense when you know all the details. He could have
walked away from his vehicle like everyone else but knew that his vehicle would
be totatlly stripped of everything valuable. He now admits that it was not very
wise to stay and protect it because of the danger he was in from the looters,
but he didnt't want his vehicle destroyed and knew he had enough food to
last until he could get his vehicle out. If you doubt that was happening--he
watched it happen to other vehicles. Next time, please don't be so quick
to rush to judgement--news articles rarely give you enough to details to make a
proper judgement. Ken is an awesome guy who is helping a lot of people prepare
themselves for whatever may happen.
Ang | 9:25 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
LOL. I think guys like Ed just like to stir things up for kicks.
I've heard of people who lost their jobs and lived off of their food storage for a time, it was worth it!
I am impressed with Ken. He knows there are more people who don't prepare than do. It's insightful of him to be aware of and willing to share his stockpile. That's the thing I would worry about, if I had food stored...that everyone who didn't have anything and who knew me, would run to me and drain the resources meant for my family. But...I could hardly resist helping other people out.
I've heard of people who lost their jobs and lived off of their food storage for a time, it was worth it!
I am impressed with Ken. He knows there are more people who don't prepare than do. It's insightful of him to be aware of and willing to share his stockpile. That's the thing I would worry about, if I had food stored...that everyone who didn't have anything and who knew me, would run to me and drain the resources meant for my family. But...I could hardly resist helping other people out.
live elsewhere | 9:37 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
What about water? Everything needs water. You can have your food, but water is
#1. And bad water is just that... bad water. So you boil it? Which means you
have the capability to heat it. No?
Or do you do pills? Or a strainer, chemical system?
Any dried goods need........... water.
If I live in earthquake land, i would stock up. But I don't. And my community is a sharing community and we would get by long enough. We have through blizzards and tornados.
Water.................. think water..........
Or do you do pills? Or a strainer, chemical system?
Any dried goods need........... water.
If I live in earthquake land, i would stock up. But I don't. And my community is a sharing community and we would get by long enough. We have through blizzards and tornados.
Water.................. think water..........
kenny | 9:41 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Its not a easy task for Latter day saints to be in this consumer/comsumption
world where we want to buy anything and everything off the store shelf.Food
storage,saving money,staying out of debt,living under your means are all good
things.The oposite is waiting for a disaster to happen and hope for the best.For
me I would rather be prepared.That is not a easy thing to do but we need to keep
trying.Do the very best you can and allow God to do the rest.
JG | 10:47 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
"Give us this day our daily bread", the Lord's prayer reads.
Not, "give us six years our food storage". The LDS go overboard with
food storage. When my LDS Grandpa died, we discovered a rotten cache of food.
All out of date. 55 gallon drums of powdered milk dried like concrete that none
of us could lift out of the basement. I see a lot of food storage waste in the
faithful elderly population. Sure, they preach rotation, but when I work at the
local food pantry, we get a lot of outdated food that is not edible from food
storage. I also see a lot of faithful go overboard with the "survivalist
theories". They not only have food storage, but a cache of guns and ammo.
The end of the world is their focus. One family I know thinks that the faithful
will "blow the Gorge" (between Las Vegas and St. George) to keep
Californians and Nevadans out of Utah and out of their food storage. I'm
more scared of the militia survivalist agenda than lack of food.
laurie | 11:03 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
i say way to go what an awesome neighbor you are and the bible does say love
thy neighbor i am truly happy that you are so blessed to be able to stock so
much in these hardest of times i wish you continued success in all you do bless
you :)
laurie | 11:06 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
i would also like to add that we recently just moved here to utah from las vegas
and we do not belong to a church here as of yet would the resoures be avaialbe
to non morman as well ?? thank you
Whoa Nellie | 11:13 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Geez, how quick to judge some of the DNews readers are. Ed did read the story.
Ed did not say Ken was goofy. Ed did not paint all of you who are insecure as
being goofy but you seem to prove it as evidenced by your insecure reaction to
his comment. Ed merely stated that in his experience, which would be very
limited in relation to the thousands and tens of thousands who have any type of
food supply in their homes, some people store food & supplies out of fear. I
imagine that we all know someone who would store and save out of some type of
fear.
Good for Ken, and good for everyone who has the foresight and means to do such a thing.
And to live elsewhere, of course people, including Ken, store water. Duh!
Good for Ken, and good for everyone who has the foresight and means to do such a thing.
And to live elsewhere, of course people, including Ken, store water. Duh!
Good job | 11:27 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Way to go Ken!
My wife are going to do even more to increase our food storage.
My wife are going to do even more to increase our food storage.
Chance | 11:29 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Laurie, you will find that the Latter-day Saints are some of the most giving
people on the Earth, especially in an emergency. You will not even have to ask
in a lot of instances. JG, you sound like you don't even know what that
scripture is referring to, so let's try this one: The parable of the ten
virgins.
MJB | 11:34 a.m. Jan. 5, 2009
to Laurie:
If you haven't noticed yet, Utah is a great place to live and is filled with generally nice and caring people. As a member of the Mormon church I can say that the basic principles of what our church teaches is to love God and embrace everyone around us as our equals. I have no doubt that in the case of any emergency, you would find open access to any resources that the church offers their members.
I would also encourage you to follow these principles of frugality, preparedness and saving food and money for a rainy day.
I wish you a pleasant experience in Utah.
If you haven't noticed yet, Utah is a great place to live and is filled with generally nice and caring people. As a member of the Mormon church I can say that the basic principles of what our church teaches is to love God and embrace everyone around us as our equals. I have no doubt that in the case of any emergency, you would find open access to any resources that the church offers their members.
I would also encourage you to follow these principles of frugality, preparedness and saving food and money for a rainy day.
I wish you a pleasant experience in Utah.
Whats His Address | 12:05 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
When the Big One Hits, I'm goin' STRAIGHT to Ken's house! Heck,
Why prepare when your neighbor has all the goods!
Just kidding....relax people. Take a breath. Count to ten.
Food storage is a great principle and I am working on beefing mine up as well. My recent Stake Conference was about the issue of helping others who have not prepared. Now THAT is tough when everyone else needs YOUR food that you have stashed away for your family...but they need it also. It is Christlike to share your abundance during disasters and NOT judge others who have not prepared. Now that takes spriritual maturity.
Just kidding....relax people. Take a breath. Count to ten.
Food storage is a great principle and I am working on beefing mine up as well. My recent Stake Conference was about the issue of helping others who have not prepared. Now THAT is tough when everyone else needs YOUR food that you have stashed away for your family...but they need it also. It is Christlike to share your abundance during disasters and NOT judge others who have not prepared. Now that takes spriritual maturity.
RE: JG | 12:22 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Your narrow and narrow-minded experience here shows your limited capacity for
wisdom and foresight. We are not all your grandfather, thank goodness.
I am currently a victim of the economic downturn, and am glad that I have enough well-rotated storage to keep my young family afloat.
Of course there are always a few who take it to the extreme; and I do know a scarce few LDS to take it to the survivalist mentality. But I personally don't take the scarce few extremists to represent a very large group as a whole.
Do you actually believe that tripe, or are you trolling?
I am currently a victim of the economic downturn, and am glad that I have enough well-rotated storage to keep my young family afloat.
Of course there are always a few who take it to the extreme; and I do know a scarce few LDS to take it to the survivalist mentality. But I personally don't take the scarce few extremists to represent a very large group as a whole.
Do you actually believe that tripe, or are you trolling?
To Whats His Address | 12:22 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
When I was a young struggling widow, I asked my singles Bishop about being
prepared, he told me that there would be people to help me and others. Now I am
married and have built up our food storage, we would help family first and then
others in need. We have a whole house generator and have needed it a couple of
times and have offered an extention cord to our neighbors. We are told over and
over in the scriptures, "if ye are prepared, ye shall not fear". More
and more people are facing natural disasters and how lucky for those who are
prepared. And I have to say, good for you Ken, I would love for you to come
talk to my ward in Missouri, I serve as the Preparedness Rep in our ward.
Thanks for the great example | 12:48 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
" We have witnessed in recent weeks wide and fearsome swings in the markets
of the world. The economy is a fragile thing. A stumble in the economy in
Jakarta or Moscow can immediately affect the entire world. It can eventually
reach down to each of us as individuals. There is a portent of stormy weather
ahead to which we had better give heed.
I am suggesting that the time has come to get our houses in order. "
President Gordon B Hinckley... Conference 99
I am suggesting that the time has come to get our houses in order. "
President Gordon B Hinckley... Conference 99
K | 1:18 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
People should check dates before they donate to others.
Perhaps a grandfather in the last years was having trouble keeping his storage rotated. Let's cut grandpa some slack.
Not LDS but I live in the Midwest. It is common sense to have stuff on hand in case getting to the store is difficult due to snow or flooding, etc.. When you are already buying on sales to store up a short term supply it's easy to pick up extra items for your local food bank.
It does not sound strange to me to have items in the house so you are not crazy buying a dozen jars of pickles the day before a blizzard. Why not have a few dozen cans of soup, tuna and spagetti and veggies. Some dried pasta and some rice to stretch things along. The little I know of the lds church is they encourge 3-6-12 month supply. The 3 month items should be used regularly and the 1 year supply some food items with a longer shelf life. And that things be rotated.
Perhaps a grandfather in the last years was having trouble keeping his storage rotated. Let's cut grandpa some slack.
Not LDS but I live in the Midwest. It is common sense to have stuff on hand in case getting to the store is difficult due to snow or flooding, etc.. When you are already buying on sales to store up a short term supply it's easy to pick up extra items for your local food bank.
It does not sound strange to me to have items in the house so you are not crazy buying a dozen jars of pickles the day before a blizzard. Why not have a few dozen cans of soup, tuna and spagetti and veggies. Some dried pasta and some rice to stretch things along. The little I know of the lds church is they encourge 3-6-12 month supply. The 3 month items should be used regularly and the 1 year supply some food items with a longer shelf life. And that things be rotated.
L.A. | 1:20 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Well, we are not Christian, and we're not LDS. However, we DO have food
storage for our family. My mother lived through the great depression and has
always preached food storage!! I sincerely hope that there is never a need to
use it. BUT, if needed, we got it!!!! Every few months we buy freeze dried
things and look for sale items to go to everyday rotated storage. We are happy
to say we have quite a little pile going. Unfortunately, the "negative
nellies" will be the ones we will end up supporting if there is a need. So,
to sum it up, we put emergency food etc., away out of common sense and the fact
that we never know what is around the next corner. I have to say that if there
is ever an "emergency" in our country, we are very very blessed to be
exactly where we are and with the people that surround us. Blessings and keep
puttin' your goodies away!!!..now if only we could find a way to dehydrate
water..hahaha
Jeenifer Brown | 2:14 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
I know Kenneth. Kenneth is not preparing based upon fear. He is preparing
based upon experience- much of which is personal and not to be shared publicly.
I wish I was half the person he is. His determination to help others at
whatever cost and his focus and knowledge make him an invaluable asset to those
around him. I am grateful for the opportunity to know and learn from him.
Kenneth Moravec | 3:34 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
I am sorry for those of you that are not in agreement with what I do.
Laurie,
My concern for others has nothing to do with their faith. You and others are still neighbors irregardless of what you believe or how crazy people may think I am.
I am far from perfect but I am trying on a daily basis to be the best that I can. Providing for my family is my responsibility and an honor.
No, I cannot feed everyone but I can try to help those around me (especially those that cannot help themselves or those that are having hardships) to weather the storms of life. Since this article was first written I have lost my job and now am living on my food storage (although I do every day because of rotation). Once again we shall weather one more storm and pray for brighter days.
Will the end of the world happen tomorrow? Maybe, but I am more concerned about feeding my family today. It does not take TEOTWAWKI to happen to have me be concerned for those I love and care about.
No we are not all Christian but we are neighbors.
Laurie,
My concern for others has nothing to do with their faith. You and others are still neighbors irregardless of what you believe or how crazy people may think I am.
I am far from perfect but I am trying on a daily basis to be the best that I can. Providing for my family is my responsibility and an honor.
No, I cannot feed everyone but I can try to help those around me (especially those that cannot help themselves or those that are having hardships) to weather the storms of life. Since this article was first written I have lost my job and now am living on my food storage (although I do every day because of rotation). Once again we shall weather one more storm and pray for brighter days.
Will the end of the world happen tomorrow? Maybe, but I am more concerned about feeding my family today. It does not take TEOTWAWKI to happen to have me be concerned for those I love and care about.
No we are not all Christian but we are neighbors.
Anonymous | 4:51 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
I'm not into the Mormon stuff or anything of the like. However, as a group
the Mormon culture's fixation on emergency preparedness, especially
concerning food (and water if possible) is not in the least a misplaced
concern.
The tendency for Americans to feel that even if a disaster hits it will only be of a regional nature or not a country-wide event, so those not hit by disaster will surely step in a help those in need. As a general, and tried, rule this is true. However, the rule would not apply if a pandemic were to hit America.
In such a case, say H5N1 (the Bird Flu), there would be wholesale quarantine of regions from other regions, states from other states, counties from other counties, communities from other communities, down to households literally quarantining themselves from other households within a neighborhood... otherwise the results could be disasterous for everyone.
In such a scenario, where one's family would have to hole up for up to 3 months without ANY contact with anyone outside the home, a handy supply of food and water could make the difference, and if in winter, at least enough fuel to stay warm and cook.
The tendency for Americans to feel that even if a disaster hits it will only be of a regional nature or not a country-wide event, so those not hit by disaster will surely step in a help those in need. As a general, and tried, rule this is true. However, the rule would not apply if a pandemic were to hit America.
In such a case, say H5N1 (the Bird Flu), there would be wholesale quarantine of regions from other regions, states from other states, counties from other counties, communities from other communities, down to households literally quarantining themselves from other households within a neighborhood... otherwise the results could be disasterous for everyone.
In such a scenario, where one's family would have to hole up for up to 3 months without ANY contact with anyone outside the home, a handy supply of food and water could make the difference, and if in winter, at least enough fuel to stay warm and cook.
Dave from Midvale | 5:20 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Dear "JG"-
Although it is apparent that you will be one of the first people at my door DEMANDING that I share my food storage with you when there is a need (and it may only be a personal/family need of yours). . . I will share it with you.
Remember this the next time you are reading the Bible; a prophet named Joseph, in Egypt, told the Egyptians that there was a famine coming and to store and prepare for it. I testify to you that modern prophets have given wise council to store food and water for times of need. You should do so yourself.
And JG. . . I'm sorry to have to say this, but if you were more concerned with your grandfather and his affairs before he died, there wouldn't have been such a catastrophe with his food storage.
Although it is apparent that you will be one of the first people at my door DEMANDING that I share my food storage with you when there is a need (and it may only be a personal/family need of yours). . . I will share it with you.
Remember this the next time you are reading the Bible; a prophet named Joseph, in Egypt, told the Egyptians that there was a famine coming and to store and prepare for it. I testify to you that modern prophets have given wise council to store food and water for times of need. You should do so yourself.
And JG. . . I'm sorry to have to say this, but if you were more concerned with your grandfather and his affairs before he died, there wouldn't have been such a catastrophe with his food storage.
Anonymous | 5:32 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
I have known Ken his whole life. He has a long history of telling lies to
justify "good ends". His work is commendable with emergency
preparedness, but he shouldn't lie about alleged life experiences. Those
who have attended his seminars, know that he has never been in the military,
never had a pilot's license, never helped with the Katrina disaster, and
this last one, was never stranded for three days on the freeway. No one was.
The most anyone was "stranded" was for six hours. I was there - with
him.
GRAM. | 6:29 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
WOW..YOU PEOPLE GET UGLY AT THE DROP OF A HAT. KEN IS GREAT, FOOD IS GREAT, DO
OUR OWN THING. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT SOMEONE ELSE DOES AND IT'S NOT
NOT NOT HURTING YOU OR ANYONE ELSE...LEAVE IT ALONE, IT'S NONE OF YOUR
BUSINESS. QUIT TRYING TO TEAR PEOPLE DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL. HERE'S A GUY
TRYING TO DO WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT AND LOOK AT THE COMMENTS. I THINK SOME OF
YOU POST JUST TO CAUSE TROUBLE.
AND ANONYMOUS, I DON'T CARE IF KEN WAS THERE 30 DAYS..YOU WERE NOT THERE. YOU GO KEN!
AND ANONYMOUS, I DON'T CARE IF KEN WAS THERE 30 DAYS..YOU WERE NOT THERE. YOU GO KEN!
Just Like Joseph and Noah | 6:41 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Whatever, some prepare and some don't. Everything written about the last
days is that it will be like no other time in history. There will be nothing
that will compare to the hard times ahead. Economic, weather, illness, etc.
etc. So if you believe these are the last days, you should prepare. If you
don't believe these are the last days than don't prepare, but
don't go knocking on the doors of those who believed in the prophets, the
bible, the spirit. Maybe like Noah's Ark, they might not be there if you
actually need them anyway. Uhm.?
Anonymous | 6:52 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
What a good guy, to plan on sharing. The people who worry me are the people who
keep guns to defend their food.
Seen the shelfs bare | 7:44 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
I lived in North East Montana for several years, in a small town with just one
grocery store. COme winter snow storms, semi trucks held back, Shelfs go bare. I
have seen it happen. Go into the store, and no bananas, bread or milk of any
kind on the shelf to buy. The wife and I learned to plan ahead. By the way, the
same storms would also stop the trucks bring in the prescriptions drugs, and the
drug store may or may not be able to fill the prescription for you.
Deberellah | 8:18 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
Ken you are a great example to all. Thank you for being brave and standing up
on that wall dodging those arrows.
A friend to Kenneth | 9:06 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
What is a shame is that so many are criticizing Kenneth for putting his money
where is mouth is. And for those of you worried about someone guarding their
food with guns, well if you came to my home because you were lazy and
didn't prepare I would ask which of my children should starve because you
couldn't be bothered to store food for your own family. Sharing with
those that truly couldn't prepare is far different than sharing with those
who frittered their time and money away on items of no real worth.
another jg | 11:04 p.m. Jan. 5, 2009
I wish he were my neighbor. Although I have a food and water supply, it would
be nice to have someone else in the neighborhood and ward with one also. I
can't believe that only 36 percent in his ward have a supply! It's
probably less than that church wide. Hello! Do we believe the prophets or not?
The people living in La La land are the ones who don't think anything will
happen that would cause us to need food and water. Look at history...dust bowl,
depression, famine, disaster. Really, we live in this world where things are
not always optimum. Since he has lost his job, isn't it great that he has a
big food supply to sustain his family?
DKL | 10:11 a.m. Jan. 6, 2009
The article reads, "Concern for others propelled Moravec to share what he
knows", not what he has. Though he may share if those who couldn't
prepare, who ask, what will he do when those who wouldn't prepare demand he
share and take it by force.
Gayle | 9:12 p.m. Jan. 6, 2009
Kenneth is a good model to follow. This article was released all over the U.S.
If everyone who read the article went out and got a 3 month supply of food,
there would be less anxiety over the financial problems we are all facing.
I have had two of my adult children downsized in their jobs this week. One got hours cut in half. The other was laid off completely. The first has some food storage although only married for 6 mo. The other has no storage.
Stop the vitriol guys, cut Kenneth some slack and practice the art of acceptance. Not doing so makes your face wrinkly!!! (JK) If what he is doing is not to your liking -- that's fine. If what he is doing IS to your liking -- copy him. For those of you who have some storage -- great! For those of you who are not LDS -- go to your local LDS congregation and ask for two pamphlets "All is Safely Gathered In". One is on food, the other is on finances. Very simple and clear cut.
I have had two of my adult children downsized in their jobs this week. One got hours cut in half. The other was laid off completely. The first has some food storage although only married for 6 mo. The other has no storage.
Stop the vitriol guys, cut Kenneth some slack and practice the art of acceptance. Not doing so makes your face wrinkly!!! (JK) If what he is doing is not to your liking -- that's fine. If what he is doing IS to your liking -- copy him. For those of you who have some storage -- great! For those of you who are not LDS -- go to your local LDS congregation and ask for two pamphlets "All is Safely Gathered In". One is on food, the other is on finances. Very simple and clear cut.
Mom4 | 12:57 a.m. Jan. 7, 2009
Ken is doing a wonderful thing. If all Americans had a year's supply of
food, we would be much better off as a country. Self reliance is never a bad
thing.
Tolerance or Acceptance | 3:51 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
It seems to me that what we lack in America is a sense of Tolerance for all,
which is what our founding fathers desired so greatly. From JG to Ed, and even
to Ken (he stated he is not perfect yet) we all need to be Tolerant of different
beliefs and opinions. Acceptance on the other hand is IMO 'bringing it
into my life or circle', which is not acceptable in some cases. I do not
accept murderers, rapists, dishonesty, rudeness, etc. in my life and usually
leave when these things occur. Here, in this blog, many of you have been
intolerant of Ken's, and in general Mormon philosophies, which is not your
choice, though not accepting these principles is your choice. The Savior stated
to "love the sinner not the sin", or in my words 'be tolerant of
others even though you do not accept their ways'. In the Constitution,
before the right to free speech is the right to assemble and religion... free
speech is third for a reason. As this blogs depicts, you have the right to say
anything you like; however, you also have the obligation to be tolerant of all.
Tolerance or Acceptance | 3:55 p.m. Jan. 7, 2009
CORRECTION - Since I am also not perfect, I was working from memory and went to
the Bill of Rights to be certain my memory was not faulty, which it is/was. The
first right is religion, speech, then assembly (not the order I stated in my
post above). Apologies and ... thank you for your tolerance and acceptance of
this apology. ;)
0802 | 9:15 a.m. Jan. 8, 2009
I believe having food storage is a great idea but I think people go about it
wrong. Storing a years supply of food under the assumption that you will have no
access to resupply during a 12 month period is just not realistic in any
situation, even an apocalypse. Storing things that provide you with the ability
to sustain yourself is even more important.
I have also seen many people that heed the food storage counsel but ignore the other counsel we have been given with regards to provident living. What good is a years worth of food if you have no house to store it in? People need to get their finances in order before they focus on a long term supply of food.
I have also seen many people that heed the food storage counsel but ignore the other counsel we have been given with regards to provident living. What good is a years worth of food if you have no house to store it in? People need to get their finances in order before they focus on a long term supply of food.
Prepared, I hope | 1:21 a.m. Jan. 10, 2009
It may interest people to know that even in a state like Utah, where the numbers
of LDS are high, less than 10% have food storage. And even that number often
does not have a full years supply.
So for those who scoff and those who can but don't or won't prepare, WHEN the time comes that there is no food and you have run out. Don't bother to go to your LDS neighbors. Most of them won't have it either and the rest are not going to watch their children starve so they can feed you when you had the time, resources and warning to prepare!
Think about New Orleans. How long did it take the government to help those people?? You better plan to take care of yourself in a disaster. Remember, WE DO LIVE ON THE WASATCH FAULT and WE ARE OVERDUE FOR A QUAKE.
So for those who scoff and those who can but don't or won't prepare, WHEN the time comes that there is no food and you have run out. Don't bother to go to your LDS neighbors. Most of them won't have it either and the rest are not going to watch their children starve so they can feed you when you had the time, resources and warning to prepare!
Think about New Orleans. How long did it take the government to help those people?? You better plan to take care of yourself in a disaster. Remember, WE DO LIVE ON THE WASATCH FAULT and WE ARE OVERDUE FOR A QUAKE.
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