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BLM oil and gas lease sale 'criminal,' Redford says
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Re "whoa | 9:10 p.m." | 12:39 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Nobody said Clinton broke the law when he created ENM, they said it was
unethical to do it without consulting the representatives of the state involved.
Drop the hyperbole.
Re "Pooh Bear | 10:40 a.m." | 12:46 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Pooh Bear | 10:40 a.m. says, "Robert Redford made Utah what it is
today". What the... What does Robert Redford have to do with what Utah is
today?
What? are you talking? | 1:15 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Redford has always and will always be on the wrong side of his own issue. He
loves prestine environmental settings with HIS lodge, HIS resort and HIS
freedoms. He has caused roads to be built, polution from his resort, invasion
of wildlife habitat with deforestation of the ski slopes, increased dependence
on oil by those who must travel to see HIS resort, (i wonder what those slope
groomers run on...)etc etc... All the while claiming to be holier than thou...
Give it up Redford... you are a has been... Oh, whoops... Never was, eco friendly ego maniac. Wanna actually help the environement? Close your doors and ask your faithful clients to stay home and plant trees instead of ski...
Oh, and being a movie actor is SO qualifying that you are the resident expert on what is good and bad for society as a whole?? Give me a break. Stick with acting... it's what you're good at.. besides, there you don't have to actually deal with REAL life issues and REAL life values, you can pretend to know what you're talking about and have real ideas.
The world must look SO different from way up there!
Give it up Redford... you are a has been... Oh, whoops... Never was, eco friendly ego maniac. Wanna actually help the environement? Close your doors and ask your faithful clients to stay home and plant trees instead of ski...
Oh, and being a movie actor is SO qualifying that you are the resident expert on what is good and bad for society as a whole?? Give me a break. Stick with acting... it's what you're good at.. besides, there you don't have to actually deal with REAL life issues and REAL life values, you can pretend to know what you're talking about and have real ideas.
The world must look SO different from way up there!
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There's Enough! | 1:17 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Why do we have to save every little piece of land. The world is our home and we
need to use it and enjoy it. I love the outdoors and nature but the extremists
want to "preserve" everything at the cost of all. Why is it that we
don't uderstand that the State and Nat'l parks preserve ENOUGH, we
don't need more.
Gig | 1:24 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
To RE GIG: Born and bred in Utah, Cottonwood High, U of U, Mormon mission. East
coast elitist, Carpet bagger? Get real!! Yes there are a few non sheep in the
crowd.
Bambie | 1:42 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Yeah, POOH BEAR!
You are lucky you even have any kind of habitat left to live in within the mountains. Redford plans to run you off just like he has many other forest animals. He may even catch you and make a bear rug out of you. You don't have a chance because you do not realize what kind of environmentalist you are dealing with here. Your woods are no longer safe from the REDFORD GANG, So run for your life if you can or otherwise plan on laying pretty on his rock hard floor next to his fireplace.
You are lucky you even have any kind of habitat left to live in within the mountains. Redford plans to run you off just like he has many other forest animals. He may even catch you and make a bear rug out of you. You don't have a chance because you do not realize what kind of environmentalist you are dealing with here. Your woods are no longer safe from the REDFORD GANG, So run for your life if you can or otherwise plan on laying pretty on his rock hard floor next to his fireplace.
Mr. Irony | 1:48 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Fascinating how many Utahns are so enthusiastic about trashing their own
beautiful home so they can suck exhaust out of a tailpipe. The little paradoxes
in Redford's life are nothing compared to the hypocrisy of the vast Mormon
herd who supposedly covenant to take good care of a glorious and beautiful
world... and then are the first to turn it into a dump to feed their wallets.
MA | 2:03 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
This leaves me with one question? How much education did REDFORD receive in his
youth? I'm truly worried.
R. Redford | 2:07 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
When RR stops taking his limo to the airport and sells his private jet and
begins to fly coach on Southwest then he can gripe.
Hawk | 2:12 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
This is a real issue discussed by a hollow person. Please, in the name of
reality, get a legitimate spokesperson. This is too important to let a Hollywood
pretty boy be a player. He will politicize this and it will end up as left
against right instead of a bipartisan discussion.
To Gig | 1:24 | 2:18 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
OK, so you're one of the East Bench elite. At least you're a
non-ungulate, liberal cool-aid drinker.
Drill happy people | 3:21 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
We should all feel fortunate that we have individuals like Mr. Redford who are
willing to stand up for environmental issues.
Whether you agree with him or not, his mission is one that will benefit everyone who enjoys Utah's wilderness and national parks.
Thank you Mr. Redford!
Whether you agree with him or not, his mission is one that will benefit everyone who enjoys Utah's wilderness and national parks.
Thank you Mr. Redford!
Old Dad | 4:35 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
My father is now too old to hike at all. We have always enjoyed the outdoors of
Utah but because of Clinton and Redford and those of his ilk, we can no longer
get to half the places we used to by truck or four-wheeler.
I'm sure that makes a lot of you enviros pretty happy to hear that, but it's sad for me and my dad.
I'm sure that makes a lot of you enviros pretty happy to hear that, but it's sad for me and my dad.
Woody | 5:01 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Who cares what Robert Redford thinks, Des News should not have even printed his
comments. If I commented you would not print mine - Redford needs to go where
someone cares what he thinks. I sure don't.
Anonymous | 6:25 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
"This leaves me with one question? How much education did REDFORD receive
in his youth? I'm truly worried. "
Don't be worried. Bob has been educated enough to be world renown, to have earned a few hundred million dollars and to have earned the respect of more Americans than the population of Utah.
More people know Redford's name than know the name of the president of the Mormon Church.
Don't be worried. Bob has been educated enough to be world renown, to have earned a few hundred million dollars and to have earned the respect of more Americans than the population of Utah.
More people know Redford's name than know the name of the president of the Mormon Church.
go | 7:58 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
I'd venture to say that most, if not all of you, have never been near a
drilling rig nor even understand how little impact they have on their
surroundings. They are regulated beyond belief. Redford made his millions
pretending to be other people. Now he is pretending to be an expert on oil and
gas drilling. How stupid is that? Bob was dead set against widening the road
up Provo canyon because of environmental reasons......until he decided to turn
sleepy little Sundance into a destination resort. Ever notice that for several
years the widening project ended at the Sundance turn off? Not a coincidence,
folks. Bobby baby is a convenient environmentalist (and king sized hypocrite).
Thinkin' Man | 9:16 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Oil wells are producing today in vineyards and farms. Look south and east of
Bakersfield, California using Google Earth to see the tiny, clean footprint that
is possible with today's technology.
If oil can be produced in our food supply, it can be produced safely in the Utah desert! Or in ANWR, for that matter.
End of argument.
If oil can be produced in our food supply, it can be produced safely in the Utah desert! Or in ANWR, for that matter.
End of argument.
California Man | 9:58 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Finally an article in the Deseret News not written by the liberal Associated
Press or Knight Rider -- but hey even a real Deseret News writer takes the
liberal road of showing only one point of view and giving press time to someone
just because they were once a big movie star. You had to get more from the BLM
than you quoted and did you contact the Bush administration and quote them in
your article? No that would be fair and balanced wouldn't it?
To call this sale "morally criminal" is funny from groups who don't know what morals are. And then to insinuate that these are slight of hand last minute lame duck decisions when their last leader Bill Clinton couldn't even come to Utah to announce the formation of protected lands within our state. What a joke!
We need to drill here and be responsible about it while we develop other forms of energy but we won't develop those forms by crippling those who work to innovate and find new ways. This intolerant of anyone else's opinion group would have us all living off intermittent wind and solar power while they sell worthless carbon credits.
To call this sale "morally criminal" is funny from groups who don't know what morals are. And then to insinuate that these are slight of hand last minute lame duck decisions when their last leader Bill Clinton couldn't even come to Utah to announce the formation of protected lands within our state. What a joke!
We need to drill here and be responsible about it while we develop other forms of energy but we won't develop those forms by crippling those who work to innovate and find new ways. This intolerant of anyone else's opinion group would have us all living off intermittent wind and solar power while they sell worthless carbon credits.
WBERGE | 11:18 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Redford lost all credibility when the GSENM was created. Instead of using his
celebrity to increase public awaerness and garner support for the monument, he
was part of the "deception and sleight of hand" that got us the
monument. I guess the ends justifies the means if you are on the side of the
environment.
The NIT | 11:51 p.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Redford was one of my favorite actors - but on this issue, Bob you can take a
hike and to go - Boliva? These lands also belong to me and thousands of other
non-extremists who try to balance issues. I can certainly live with dust on a
few Indian drawings rather than $4 a gallon gasoline. We should be taking this
respite in high oil and gasoline prices to drill here and drill now so that we
don't have another summer of '08.
kcc | 8:37 a.m. Dec. 19, 2008
Doug Wright explained quite well this morning on the news just what was going
on. This is an issue about controlling our lives! Redford doesn't care
about the commen person! Do you think he cares whether you or I have a job? Do
you think he has to look at his check book to see if he can take his kids to the
movies this weekend? NO! So all you that thinks these enviro Nazi's are
great, needs to get educated on the real issues and the laws that are in place
to protect these areas! They are not going to be destroyed people!
Old Broad | 3:36 p.m. Dec. 19, 2008
To ruin these unique, fragile lands for so little energy is the worst kind of
shortsighted greed. We need to immediately put major resources into developing
new , alternative energy sources, and toward common sense conservation, and
never have to witness another bargain basement salelike Friday's auction
again.
Anonymous | 4:19 p.m. Dec. 19, 2008
THIS ISN'T ABOUT ROBERT REDFORD PEOPLE!
FOCUS and repeat after me:
Drill baby drill! Who cares if the natural beauty surrounding us is destroyed...it's just rock and dirt, after all.
WHO CARES if the oil and gas companies already own hundreds of other parcels around Utah but aren't using them. If they drill closer to the national parks, maybe people will see that drillin' ain't so bad after-all!
We NEED oil! Just like we need all the shiny plastic crap we buy at Wal-Mart!!! Who cares if it leaks into our soil, water and air and pollutes the land for our children and our children's children...
Oil is natural! Oil is great! Just like Corn-Syrup! So it must be good for you and good for me. Good for M'erica! YEEE-HA!
Now excuse me while I whip out a bottle of lotion (Which has oil in it too btw) while I look at my autographed Sarah Palin poster...after that I'm turning on the boob tube (Dancing with the stars is on) so I can forget about all this.
I HEART FOSSIL FUELS!
FOCUS and repeat after me:
Drill baby drill! Who cares if the natural beauty surrounding us is destroyed...it's just rock and dirt, after all.
WHO CARES if the oil and gas companies already own hundreds of other parcels around Utah but aren't using them. If they drill closer to the national parks, maybe people will see that drillin' ain't so bad after-all!
We NEED oil! Just like we need all the shiny plastic crap we buy at Wal-Mart!!! Who cares if it leaks into our soil, water and air and pollutes the land for our children and our children's children...
Oil is natural! Oil is great! Just like Corn-Syrup! So it must be good for you and good for me. Good for M'erica! YEEE-HA!
Now excuse me while I whip out a bottle of lotion (Which has oil in it too btw) while I look at my autographed Sarah Palin poster...after that I'm turning on the boob tube (Dancing with the stars is on) so I can forget about all this.
I HEART FOSSIL FUELS!
Sad To Think Robert Misses It | 5:14 p.m. Dec. 19, 2008
Robert, do you really think all these millionaires are walking up to your resort
to ski and buy homes? Ever seen the Sundance strip mine from the air? Spokesman,
fix your own pile of tailings before you target the oil and gas industry. Close
your resort, then maybe we'll take you seriously. All these thousands of
ski enthusiasts from the East side of the state should take their business to
Colorado and tell the environmentalist bunch they won't "Ski
Utah" if you take their jobs away.
Anonymous | 11:47 p.m. Dec. 19, 2008
"Criminal"?
I like Robert Redford, a lot! Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. The Sting. The Great Waldo Pepper. The Natural.
Love that guy! He makes classy movies.
But if anything is "criminal" here it's how left-wing, extremist environmental fools believe that mankind does not have the right to a comfortable life.
"Hey!, you need to ride your bike 20 miles to work in the winter so we can save the spotted owl!"
Get real...
America is energy-DEPENDENT on foreign countries to a HUGE degree and you guys want to encourage NOT drilling here?
Like Forest said, "stupid is as stupid does"...
I like Robert Redford, a lot! Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. The Sting. The Great Waldo Pepper. The Natural.
Love that guy! He makes classy movies.
But if anything is "criminal" here it's how left-wing, extremist environmental fools believe that mankind does not have the right to a comfortable life.
"Hey!, you need to ride your bike 20 miles to work in the winter so we can save the spotted owl!"
Get real...
America is energy-DEPENDENT on foreign countries to a HUGE degree and you guys want to encourage NOT drilling here?
Like Forest said, "stupid is as stupid does"...
John Pack Lambert | 9:19 a.m. Dec. 20, 2008
I am tired of the high end tycoons like Redford and Gore who fly around in
their private jets, and tavel between multiple states all the time, trying to
keep housing prices and gast prices up so the masses stay in the
"place" in the urban centers and leave them undisturbed in their
wilderness retreats.
"Suburban Sprawl" is a code word for people no longer having to live in an environment where their children are more likely to be raped than to graduate from high school.
You also have to wonder why the liberals like Clinton who send their children to private schools are so opposed to vouchers. Is it because they send their kids to private shcools to avoid association with the type of children who are found in most Washington DC public schools?
"Suburban Sprawl" is a code word for people no longer having to live in an environment where their children are more likely to be raped than to graduate from high school.
You also have to wonder why the liberals like Clinton who send their children to private schools are so opposed to vouchers. Is it because they send their kids to private shcools to avoid association with the type of children who are found in most Washington DC public schools?
What a shame.. | 10:07 a.m. Dec. 22, 2008
None of the comments I've read appear to come from people who understand
how oil shale is handled to produce kerogen (because unless you've gazed
into your crystal ball, you can't determine what the environmental impact
will be) and how valuable our tourist dollar are here in Utah. These resources
won't amount to a drop of gas's worth of energy in our collective gas
tanks, yet the recreation that will be off limits will directly and negatively
impact local wallets.
blackwall | 8:01 p.m. June 11, 2009
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE GOVERNMENT AND ENVIROLMENTALIST FINE WORK
GO TO GRAND COUNTY AND JACKSON COUNTY IN COLORADO IT IS JUST A FIRE BALL WAITING
TO HAPPEN SO DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT OIL AND GAS DRILLING GO SEE COLORADO MOUNTAINS
WHERE SOMETHING COULD HAVE BEENDONE BUT WE CAN THINK THE TREE HUGGERS THE
FORREST SERVICE THEY CAUSED THE FOREST PRODUCTION AND WALDEN IS JUST ANOTHER
GHOST TOWN.NO JOBS FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK OF SOMEONE THAT HAS BEEN THERE.WHY
SHOULD THEY TELL US HOW TO LIVE
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