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Federal Matching funds??? | 2:36 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
should programs with matching federal funds be cut as much as those without,
doubling and tripling the hit to those agencies?
GeeBee | 2:38 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Perhaps less tax dollars financing parking lots, theaters, stadiums, and
referendums on issues like vouchers. That might save us a bit of money, no?
Transportation projects??? | 2:38 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
What if Utah has to provide matching funds to receive Obama's
transportation federal dollars??? Utah's transportation projects were
already cut from the budget in the last round of cuts!
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Human Services Cuts | 2:40 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
What is the total amount cut from Human Services including this proposal, cuts
from the special session, and the matching federal dollars? What % of this
budget has already been cut?
questions. | 3:00 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
It relieves me to hear of budget economies in the State. Utah has had a
balanaced budget every year, right? All credit (sorry, the wrong word).. all
positive recognition is due to any and all legislators, governor, and
understanding government workers and fund-recipients who would support
across-the-board, or overall, cuts in the State budget.
I have questions, to satisfy my curiosity, if anyone can tell me the answers:
What will cause the expected decrease in tax revenues? Is it just less income tax because there are less jobs in Utah at the moment?
Is it due to an expected reduction in pay for the employed?
Is it a reduction in spending by wary shoppers and thus reduced sales tax receipts?
My last question is:
Will their be a reduction in State income tax rates?
In Sales Tax rates?
The questions are genuine, not cynical. Can anyone tell me?
I have questions, to satisfy my curiosity, if anyone can tell me the answers:
What will cause the expected decrease in tax revenues? Is it just less income tax because there are less jobs in Utah at the moment?
Is it due to an expected reduction in pay for the employed?
Is it a reduction in spending by wary shoppers and thus reduced sales tax receipts?
My last question is:
Will their be a reduction in State income tax rates?
In Sales Tax rates?
The questions are genuine, not cynical. Can anyone tell me?
Solution | 3:39 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Have the Governor get the State's dominant institution to make up the
shortfall. Since the state is run entirely for their benefit, it's the
least they could do for Utah.
Guaglione | 3:58 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
questions:
When the economy slows, there are fewer people buying fewer things, resulting in a decrease in sales tax revenue.
With the high gas prices, people drove less, buying less gas, resulting in a decrease in gas tax revenue.
Property taxes are based on assessed value of real property. With home values stalling out and in some cases decreasing, property tax values are down. Many municipalities were counting on additional growth and put that expected revenue into their budgets. The budget is a forecast of what's expected to come in, not a spending of moneys already in place.
Corporate taxes have also decreased as company profits have decreased (again, due to people not spending as much money).
Income taxes have not met projections due both to layoffs (companies unable to employ as many people as before) and to companies giving smaller pay increases than was expected. Again, the budget's based on projections. Incomes were expected to rise; likewise, income tax revenues were expected to rise.
It may be time to re-evaluate some of the state's programs and policies. In times like this, everyone needs to learn to make cuts and sacrifices.
When the economy slows, there are fewer people buying fewer things, resulting in a decrease in sales tax revenue.
With the high gas prices, people drove less, buying less gas, resulting in a decrease in gas tax revenue.
Property taxes are based on assessed value of real property. With home values stalling out and in some cases decreasing, property tax values are down. Many municipalities were counting on additional growth and put that expected revenue into their budgets. The budget is a forecast of what's expected to come in, not a spending of moneys already in place.
Corporate taxes have also decreased as company profits have decreased (again, due to people not spending as much money).
Income taxes have not met projections due both to layoffs (companies unable to employ as many people as before) and to companies giving smaller pay increases than was expected. Again, the budget's based on projections. Incomes were expected to rise; likewise, income tax revenues were expected to rise.
It may be time to re-evaluate some of the state's programs and policies. In times like this, everyone needs to learn to make cuts and sacrifices.
Tax revenues | 4:07 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Income taxes never go to the State for programs - it all goes directly to
education; so a loss of jobs does not have a direct impact on the budget.
However, whether due to employment status or otherwise, spending is down, and
that does.
RE: Solution | 4:15 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
That is the most assinine comment I have ever heard. It shows pure ignorance.
The dominant institution does more for the state that you could even imagine.
Dave | 4:28 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
I hope the legislators look at EVERY dept. budget with a microscope. When the
dept. heads are told to make cuts they tend to either: a(cut services that will
"teach the public lesson" or b(cut the "Indians",(the folks
who actually PERFORM THE SERVICES NEEDED) and leave untouched the
"Chiefs" who sit in offices with ridiculously high salaries! The
legislature should ask the personnel office for a list of ALL employees that
make, say 90,000 a year or MORE, and then start asking hard questions of the
dept. heads.
This COULD be an excellent time to clean out some of the "dead wood" at the state.
It seems ironic to me that in this same article, Huntsman is trying to make mortgages more available to more people, but if they cut at the state level like I think they will, it will be the lower wage earners that will be out of a job.
I used to work at the state and I know how they operate, so state employees REALLY SHOULD contact their state legislator to make sure THEY get heard, and not just their dept. heads!
This COULD be an excellent time to clean out some of the "dead wood" at the state.
It seems ironic to me that in this same article, Huntsman is trying to make mortgages more available to more people, but if they cut at the state level like I think they will, it will be the lower wage earners that will be out of a job.
I used to work at the state and I know how they operate, so state employees REALLY SHOULD contact their state legislator to make sure THEY get heard, and not just their dept. heads!
spud | 6:06 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Boy are we in trouble. Well everybody ,you voted for these finacial communist
thieves. You'll get just what's coming to ya!!!
Thinking Sports Fan | 6:21 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
I am a big football fan but I find it unsettling that a State institution USU
will do anything to win even increase dramatically their football budget at this
time.
Unless this new increase for coach Anderson is coming from source that does not involve tax dollars. A second point of note; today if your football team can't win and make money the entire athletics department is at risk. If that even matters during times like this. So I am having a conversation with myself! Sorry everyone.
It is times like this I am glad I vote and can place confidence "some at least" in my representatives.
RE: Solution you are an idiot!!!!
Unless this new increase for coach Anderson is coming from source that does not involve tax dollars. A second point of note; today if your football team can't win and make money the entire athletics department is at risk. If that even matters during times like this. So I am having a conversation with myself! Sorry everyone.
It is times like this I am glad I vote and can place confidence "some at least" in my representatives.
RE: Solution you are an idiot!!!!
Re Dave: | 6:33 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
The problem is that someone needs to look at the legislature with a microscope.
I don't think the legislature should be the ones doing the checking as
corrupt as they are.
Amen Dave! | 6:38 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Pull up a list of executives employed by the state counties and municipalities.
It is incredible the salary amounts for the administrative positions in taxpayer
funded employment. That is the list that the Governor needs. Oddly enough he
is not the highest earner, not even close. You can find it at UTAHSRIGHT on the
web. You will be shocked and dismayed. I was at least.
Good writing D. News! | 7:07 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
["I wish we had a gold-plated budget to present � no
such luck today," Huntsman said, standing in the lavishly renovated Gold
Room outside his office. ]
QUOTE
This is priceless! I didn't notice it the first time.
Is this a case of robbing the poor (working people) because of their 'fine sanctuary'? What a gifted writer.
QUOTE
This is priceless! I didn't notice it the first time.
Is this a case of robbing the poor (working people) because of their 'fine sanctuary'? What a gifted writer.
Anonymous | 7:47 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
Dump the federal funds! Gov Hunsman wants Utah more dependent on the Federal
government. I want independence. Who cares what it "costs"? Let's
admit that the federal strings that come with education funding weaken
education, rather than improving it.
arc | 11:38 p.m. Dec. 4, 2008
lets build another soccer stadium
Counterproductive | 2:15 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
I could work, produce and consume more, but choose not to. I have plenty of
first hand knowledge about how taxes are squandered at government institutions
throughout the state. As an example, look at out-of-state and international
travel budgets of about any agency.
The state can change taxes all it wants, the funds won't be coming from me, but from the working class.
The state can change taxes all it wants, the funds won't be coming from me, but from the working class.
Cuts in wrong places | 4:19 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Utah could save tens of millions of dollars a year if they cut aid and jobs to
illegal aliens. Give tax paying ameicans the jobs illegal have stolen from us
who pay no taxes on their incomes. Then cutting UDOT and its roads would help
the economy by leaving more for more important government functions. With as big
a budget that UDOT has there should be no reason for them to go out and borrow
(bond) money for roads. It seems counter to economic downturn to go out and
borrow money that they may not be able to repay. This further indentures the
Utah tax payers and its government. Utah legislators and Gov Huntsman needs to
get real in their ideas of making cuts and where life thereatening money is
needed. UDOT has been a problem department for years and perhaps new management
is needed that can work with a budget. The second biggest economic problem in
Utah is the drain illegal foreign nationals put on the Utah tax payers in
education, jobs, welfare programs, medicaid, medicare, and human services.
Althogh human services are the illegals life line for free aid we cannot afford
to keep giving them aid.
Hmmm | 6:35 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
So much for a recession-proof Utah.
second Hmmm | 7:11 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
I turely find it amazing that even though we as Utah voting residents say what
we want too does no good. We are taxed, double taxed and triple taxed (anyone
looked at a restaurant receipt lately?) There were 7 tax entries on my bill
totalling $43.37 -why is Utah so ill equipped to balance budgets when they get
free tax money from every move the residents make.
Perhaps all these so called upper class citizens need to come down and struggle like the rest of us.
Perhaps all these so called upper class citizens need to come down and struggle like the rest of us.
Anonymous | 7:25 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Two points: One, I ask the Governor to enforce the laws to punish employers and
Landlords that hire and harbor Illigel Aliens; second, I ask the Governor to
stop state employees from driving state vehicles to work, it is time for them to
drive their own personal vehicles, this alone could result in large savings
$$$$.
Thanks Governor, I appreciate the job you are doing!
Thanks Governor, I appreciate the job you are doing!
buzzy | 7:34 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
So get rid of state employees and then put them on unemployement, welfare etc
mmmm end up paying out the same amount in many ways -- I bet you won't see
them lay off their buddies. Your ought to see the top heavy semi privatized
DTS dept - pushed workers into holes so their managers could have glass offices
- spared no expense
Recession-proof -- poof! | 7:36 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Even the "dominant institution" with its $5B redo of downtown
can't keep Utah out of this recession.
Dave | 8:18 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
I am sure that this news has all state employees stressed out. We will have to
send them all on a retreat to some exotic resort so they can unwind. You think
I am kidding?
utility bill taxes | 8:31 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Good point made by "Second Hmmm". Let's all look carefully at
the state (and other) taxes that add monthly surcharges to our basic bills, and
all the money that goes out of the window in household budgets everytime we buy
anything (except food: this I appreciate ).
Then let's look at all the areas of government handouts to special interests and how all-pervasive government has become. The claim of one poster seems extreme when he talks about government being communist, but I myself have found satisfaction in the generalisation:
working class = democrat
middle class = republican
government class = communist
This simplification makes a point.
If government would take a bold step and stop financing school sports, orchestras etc and let them get on with teaching academics, and leave us in charge of leisure activities, a great advance would be made in the household budgets of the people.
Government interference in all aspects of our lives is a bad habit that governments all over the country, all over the Western world, have gotten into. We would be more true to our freedom-based traditions and roots to reverse this aping of socialist and communist nations.
Then let's look at all the areas of government handouts to special interests and how all-pervasive government has become. The claim of one poster seems extreme when he talks about government being communist, but I myself have found satisfaction in the generalisation:
working class = democrat
middle class = republican
government class = communist
This simplification makes a point.
If government would take a bold step and stop financing school sports, orchestras etc and let them get on with teaching academics, and leave us in charge of leisure activities, a great advance would be made in the household budgets of the people.
Government interference in all aspects of our lives is a bad habit that governments all over the country, all over the Western world, have gotten into. We would be more true to our freedom-based traditions and roots to reverse this aping of socialist and communist nations.
former state employee | 9:20 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
It's amazing that Governor Huntsman didn't learn from George
Bush's mistakes on tax cuts. When Bush had a surplus, he made monumental
tax cuts, based on the Pollyanna idea that one year of surplus would continue
permanently into the future. Based on his irresponsible tax cuts, Bush led our
country into the largest deficit spending in history. And because the lapsing
of his tax cuts would result in a tax increase that will cripple the economy, we
have no choice but to keep the tax cuts in place, leading to astonishing deficit
spending in the coming years. When will politicians understand that years of
plenty are not permanent but are invariably followed by years of scarcity?
Governer Huntsman has made the same mistake, except he has to balance the budget, unlike the feds. So state employees take it in the shorts. I quit state employment primarily because of Huntsman's tax cuts, knowing that in years of scarcity, I would take it in the shorts. Huntsman should have used the surplus to give teachers bonuses during surplus years to address the teacher shortage, and in years of scarcity, stop the bonuses and have a balanced budget without a budget crisis.
Governer Huntsman has made the same mistake, except he has to balance the budget, unlike the feds. So state employees take it in the shorts. I quit state employment primarily because of Huntsman's tax cuts, knowing that in years of scarcity, I would take it in the shorts. Huntsman should have used the surplus to give teachers bonuses during surplus years to address the teacher shortage, and in years of scarcity, stop the bonuses and have a balanced budget without a budget crisis.
Teacher | 9:23 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
I'm o.k. with not getting a raise next year. I know right now I am happy
to have a secure job.
I'll also not take the merit pay this year. (Even though I probably do merit some extra pay, I'm just happy to have a job).
I just hope they don't cut the budget so much that I end up with 40 kids in my classroom.
I'll also not take the merit pay this year. (Even though I probably do merit some extra pay, I'm just happy to have a job).
I just hope they don't cut the budget so much that I end up with 40 kids in my classroom.
Good News | 9:29 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
This is the best news I've heard in a long time. Maybe we should demand
recessions so as to be able to cut back government to where it was supposed to
be in the first place.
This much I'm sure, that if a program can be cut, it should have never been there to begin with much less being Constitutionally justified. Too many of these government workers are tax collectors disguised as public servants. Make no mistake about it. They are no friend of the People and they don't fix roads. They plunder the earned resources from those who create jobs and produce a valuable product or service while risking everything they have to bring it to market.
I have personally witnessed on numerous occasions their evil and destructive programs that serve only to plunder unsuspecting businesses so that they can justify their existence, their retirement pay and benefits. If these are the people who will be cut, then I say with a loud rejoicing voice GOOD RIDDANCE and don't come back! Their families should have to experience the same long term pain and misery that they inflict on many small business owners.
Free at last!
This much I'm sure, that if a program can be cut, it should have never been there to begin with much less being Constitutionally justified. Too many of these government workers are tax collectors disguised as public servants. Make no mistake about it. They are no friend of the People and they don't fix roads. They plunder the earned resources from those who create jobs and produce a valuable product or service while risking everything they have to bring it to market.
I have personally witnessed on numerous occasions their evil and destructive programs that serve only to plunder unsuspecting businesses so that they can justify their existence, their retirement pay and benefits. If these are the people who will be cut, then I say with a loud rejoicing voice GOOD RIDDANCE and don't come back! Their families should have to experience the same long term pain and misery that they inflict on many small business owners.
Free at last!
Re: Good News | 9:51 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Your premise is false that budget cuts are good because the programs that are
cut are not necessary. Huntsman's budget cuts are not to entire programs,
but are chipping away at existing ones, mainly through labor costs, i.e.,
freezing salaries. So, your argument is essentially that never giving state
employees a raise is just what government needs. My brother-in-law went 4 years
without a raise after 9-11 and left state government as a result. I suppose if
you want state employees to leave en masse, permanent budget cuts are a good
thing. If you want, in addition to a teacher shortage, a police, fire, etc.
shortage, make the budget cuts permanent.
When will it all end ?? | 10:02 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
I have stopped reading CNN or Fox. I have stopped looking at the Deseret News
other than a few sports updates. The reason - THE NEWS NEVER CHANGES!!!!!!! Same
ole same ole week in and week out. JOB LOSSES, LAYOFFS, BUDGET SHORTFALLS,
RECESSION, PANIC, FORCLOSER and on and on ......
When will all of this end?? We are already 12 months into the recession with no end in sight. I can easily see this thing going for another 2 years and maybe longer at which case it would be the worst downturn since the great depression. America will NEVER be the same after this. Like a company that has gone bankrupt, America will be a lesser country for many years to come. I think the day of paying athletes these crazy salaries has to be over as well. I remember the 1983 recession and this is MUCH worse. Back then there was light at the end of tunnel. i see NO LIGHT here. I see nothing that will end this misery. I think it time to just stop reading the news.
When will all of this end?? We are already 12 months into the recession with no end in sight. I can easily see this thing going for another 2 years and maybe longer at which case it would be the worst downturn since the great depression. America will NEVER be the same after this. Like a company that has gone bankrupt, America will be a lesser country for many years to come. I think the day of paying athletes these crazy salaries has to be over as well. I remember the 1983 recession and this is MUCH worse. Back then there was light at the end of tunnel. i see NO LIGHT here. I see nothing that will end this misery. I think it time to just stop reading the news.
Anonymous | 10:16 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Has anybody heard of the rainy day fund. Why do we always spend spend spend.
It's about time to tighten our belts. All people want to do anymore is
spend spend spend. The next thing the Gov. will want to do is raise our gas
tax, because our gas prices are going down. We need a Gov. without a golden
spoon in his mouth. He does not know what is means to go without. When are the
people of Utah going to wake up???
Re: Dave | 10:19 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Another solution would be to take the top 10% highest paid state employees, and
reduce their pay by 25%, (including professors, Judges, AG's, etc). Then
take the next lower 10% wage earners and reduce their pay by 10%. I wonder if
the state employment office could plug in these #'s and calculate the
savings! Then keep going lower if they need to. Some of the dept. heads will
scream bloody murder, but that is better than laying off the lower paid
employees who would have no income whatsoever. Over the years the dept. heads
have said things like "we're lucky to get him/her for 140k per
year," but anyone who's ever worked for the state knows better. I also
believe that the state will have the tendency to "save" the highest
wage earners, but it SHOULDN'T happen. I also think its time for the
legislature to re-think the "double-dipping" that goes on. Other
people need those jobs, and it isn't ever really being used the way the
legislature intended anyway. When these so-called "important"
employees threaten to go work elsewhere, we should wish them "good
luck".
Contact your legislator, and make your feelings known.
Contact your legislator, and make your feelings known.
Hey Dave! | 10:22 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
$90k/year offends you? Tell that to the hundreds of doctors, scientists,
engineers and attorneys employed by Utah's state and local governments.
Those salaries are based on market comparisons, and are sometimes inadequate to
keep the most talented professionals in public service.
Public employees are not your enemies.
Public employees are not your enemies.
I never got merit pay anyway. | 11:02 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Merit pay was allotted to bonuses for math and science teachers only. I'm
not sorry they won't get paid more than the rest of us next year.
RE:TEACHER | 11:17 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Thats right just take it in the shorts year after year. That's the
ticket...what they need to do is cut the state office of ed and the high
paid/overpaid administrators in each building. Schools would run just fine
without them. In fact, make them teach a least one class per day instead of
hiring new teachers!
Teacher honestly, you need to learn how to through a good old fashioned strike.
Just keep on taking it!!!
Teacher honestly, you need to learn how to through a good old fashioned strike.
Just keep on taking it!!!
Note for Bob B. | 11:22 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Just a quick math refresher: Government Fee = revenue from the public to pay for
government service. Government Tax = revenue from the public to pay for
government service. Therefore Fee = Tax
To say that there is no proposed tax increase but we will be asked to pay more for fees is misleading.
To say that there is no proposed tax increase but we will be asked to pay more for fees is misleading.
Anonymous | 11:29 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
$90k is a joke these days in many scientific and engineering jobs. For example,
geologists and engineers are getting STARTING salaries in oil and gas jobs well
over $100k, based on market demand. These professionals work government jobs
for two main reasons: 1)Weren't able to get a job in the oil industry and
are glad to have a job at all, or 2)they have altruistic motives and the huge
pay cut they take to work for the govt doesn't matter to them.
Many of us would love to work for the govt if it didn't mean a 50-80% pay cut. Those working in those jobs already know that they could get a job in the private sector and make a lot more, so I assume that money isn't much of a motivation for them anyway, so cutting it further shouldn't drive them away.
Many of us would love to work for the govt if it didn't mean a 50-80% pay cut. Those working in those jobs already know that they could get a job in the private sector and make a lot more, so I assume that money isn't much of a motivation for them anyway, so cutting it further shouldn't drive them away.
Mom | 11:30 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Just be glad you are not in California....we have to borrow money every year
JUST TO GET BY!!!! Welfare state big time!!!!
goodgrief | 11:31 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
What? Not enough money? The governor had millions to help build a soccer
stadium ,that by the way the majority of us didn't want. We have millions
more going out to those that are here illegally but not enough to take care of
those of us that are here legally and have paid taxes to the state for years?
Something is wrong with that. But no, lets take it away from education,
policemen, firemen and all others that are here to protect us and teach our
children. Goodgrief...
re:Hey Dave | 11:32 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
I know about the "market comparisons" and I would think the
"market comparisons" would start coming back with different numbers
than even 6 mos. ago. Regardless, those people who can make more money with
another employer SHOULD do that. This nonsense that SOME of the highest paid
employees are doing the state a "favor" by working for them, is just a
LOAD OF GARBAGE! The same thing holds true for even the lowest pd. employees. If
they can find better work somewhere else then they should and probably will.
I'm sure they'll be a lot of talk about this issue before the legislative session starts and I'm sure the legislators will be under a lot of pressure from all directions to make cuts fair and/or to use more of the "rainy day" fund. I suspect it will be much worse next year!
I'm sure they'll be a lot of talk about this issue before the legislative session starts and I'm sure the legislators will be under a lot of pressure from all directions to make cuts fair and/or to use more of the "rainy day" fund. I suspect it will be much worse next year!
Alex | 11:53 a.m. Dec. 5, 2008
While we can argue how the cuts should be allocated, how refreshing to hear of a
state that has the fortitude to CUT spending. In this country, we need
politicians who can cut government spending, not try and show how generous they
are giving away the wages of future Americans under the illusion of
"caring". Significantly reducing the government spending is the hard
medicine we need in this country.
Vance | 12:12 p.m. Dec. 5, 2008
These cuts have already hit home hard at one place: higher education. Higher
education is taking the axe hard, especially at the smaller schools like Snow.
Snow college has already laid off over 22 professors, and this next round of
cuts will probably terminate some programs.
Snow gets over 70 percent of their funding from the state, unlike the U or USU (they get grants, fellowships, named chairs and so forth for a lot), so an 8 percent cut really hammered them. They don't get the protections k-12 gets, so they are another state agency. My dad will probably lose his job along with his department mates in Summer 2009, as they shut down programs. Somehow, I don't see k-12 education very highly, as they have their union protected workforce.
Snow gets over 70 percent of their funding from the state, unlike the U or USU (they get grants, fellowships, named chairs and so forth for a lot), so an 8 percent cut really hammered them. They don't get the protections k-12 gets, so they are another state agency. My dad will probably lose his job along with his department mates in Summer 2009, as they shut down programs. Somehow, I don't see k-12 education very highly, as they have their union protected workforce.
Alex | 12:36 p.m. Dec. 5, 2008
"Merit pay was allotted to bonuses for math and science teachers only.
I'm not sorry they won't get paid more than the rest of us next year.
"
So if you can't get merit pay...nobody should. Would it be better if nobody merited their pay?
So if you can't get merit pay...nobody should. Would it be better if nobody merited their pay?
To: I never got merit pay | 3:22 p.m. Dec. 5, 2008
Here is your first clueless statement:
"Merit pay was allotted to bonuses for math and science teachers only. I'm not sorry they won't get paid more than the rest of us next year. "
Every district was given the opportunity to write a proposal for merit pay money. It wasn't for math and science teachers only. It was for EVERYONE.
Your math and science teacher whining was a whole different ball game.
Ignorance is not bliss.
"Merit pay was allotted to bonuses for math and science teachers only. I'm not sorry they won't get paid more than the rest of us next year. "
Every district was given the opportunity to write a proposal for merit pay money. It wasn't for math and science teachers only. It was for EVERYONE.
Your math and science teacher whining was a whole different ball game.
Ignorance is not bliss.
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