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Rivalry week: Utes go BCS busting with a win; BYU most likely Vegas bound
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re: re: re: Re: On Your Mind | 7:14 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Earth to re: re: Re: On Your Mind:
Don't confuse what would have happened with BYU in 1984 to what will happen if Utah plays Florida this year.
If it didn't mean conceding Saturday's game, I'd thoroughly enjoy watching the Utes get their's against Golden Boy Urban.
Anybody else notice how Urban basically said he was no longer in favor of a playoff system that would allow non-=BCS teams like Utah in?
Yeah, you Ute sheep should be really proud of Urban and Bernie Machen. They've really got your backs.
Don't confuse what would have happened with BYU in 1984 to what will happen if Utah plays Florida this year.
If it didn't mean conceding Saturday's game, I'd thoroughly enjoy watching the Utes get their's against Golden Boy Urban.
Anybody else notice how Urban basically said he was no longer in favor of a playoff system that would allow non-=BCS teams like Utah in?
Yeah, you Ute sheep should be really proud of Urban and Bernie Machen. They've really got your backs.
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I Would Climb Any Mountain | 7:19 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Re: Feels Like the First Time:
Are you sure no one rushed the field after the Weber State game -- to thank Ron McBride for putting up so many points against an "SEC-speed-quality defense"?
Are you sure no one rushed the field after the Weber State game -- to thank Ron McBride for putting up so many points against an "SEC-speed-quality defense"?
Sail Across the Stormy Sea | 7:20 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
To: I Would Climb Any Mountain:
I heard the rushed the field to thank McBride for getting fired so they could bring Urban in and win two league championships with Ronnie Mac's recruits.
I heard the rushed the field to thank McBride for getting fired so they could bring Urban in and win two league championships with Ronnie Mac's recruits.
If That's What It Takes Me Baby | 7:24 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Yo, Sail Across the Stormy Sea -- If it wasn't Weber State they rushed the
field on was it Colorado State? Southwest Baptist?
If the next person who responds to this thread calls himself: To Show How Much You Mean to Me, I'm going to start screaming -- Saturday's game is "Urgent, urgent ... emergency!"
If the next person who responds to this thread calls himself: To Show How Much You Mean to Me, I'm going to start screaming -- Saturday's game is "Urgent, urgent ... emergency!"
COUGARS WIN!!! | 7:33 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
I'm a Cougar fan who don't care if UTAH gets a BCS birth and Since the
only way for the Cougars to even have a chance at one and to get a share of
conference title is if they BEAT the Utes, then I say beat the UTES... Saturday
evening after the game, The Utes will be sticking all of there hopes and dreams
in there pockets and going home and the COUGARS will be celebrating their 3rd,
yes that is 3rd win in a row over UTAH...
RE: On your mind | 7:47 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Still looking for something that Utah has done that BYU hasn't.
Mmm let me see 2004 Fiesta comes to mind: Frist non-BCS team to break the BCS monopoly.
Mmm let me see 2004 Fiesta comes to mind: Frist non-BCS team to break the BCS monopoly.
Ironic | 8:13 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
BYU is counting MWC championships
While Utah wants to count BCS games
While SEC, PAC-10, Big-10, Big-12 count national titles.
While Utah wants to count BCS games
While SEC, PAC-10, Big-10, Big-12 count national titles.
Boise State | 8:23 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
I'm a BYU grad living in Boise. The first couple years we lived here, BYU
lost both contests to the Broncos. Two years ago, a highly ranked BYU
basketball team was handed a stunning defeat by Boise. I can understand us BYU
fans being bitter about losses to Boise, but spewing venom about the BSU program
being inferior and the play schedule being weak is misplaced at best and wildly
bitter at worst. Go Cougs! Go Broncos!
Bender Rodriguez | 8:30 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
re: my post @ 5:55 pm today
Georgia Tech is taking Miami to the woodshed. 41-10 early 4th. The ACC is cannibalizing itself & the picture remains murky. As long as Fla St, BC, or Va Tech don't represent, I'll be fine.
As for the PAC-10, if Oregon St wins out, would the Rose Bowl really want a Penn St/Ore st rematch?
Georgia Tech is taking Miami to the woodshed. 41-10 early 4th. The ACC is cannibalizing itself & the picture remains murky. As long as Fla St, BC, or Va Tech don't represent, I'll be fine.
As for the PAC-10, if Oregon St wins out, would the Rose Bowl really want a Penn St/Ore st rematch?
OH OH PICK ME | 8:34 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
I got something that BYU hasn't done! Or any other school besides the U for
that matter. How about a number 1 draft pick in the NFL and NBA in the same
year! Beat that war kittens!
Get Real | 8:36 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
"If all things were equal, Utah's season would have been finished
after they lost in the NIT."
FYI zoobie: I was comparing the BCS monopoly as the reason why a non-BCS team will ever get a shot at the title and you come back with basketball? Please stick to comparing apples to apples.
And as far as Miami and OK pre and post-BCS national titles go... correct me if I am wrong but are they not part of the BCS conferences?
Can you zoobies name the first and only team in history to break the original BCS-monopoly? I will give you a hint it happened in 2004.
I am not taking anything away from the Y but the 84-Y team would never be ranked #1 in this post-BCS era with their strength of schedule. So don't pound your chests over '84 while downplaying 2004.
FYI zoobie: I was comparing the BCS monopoly as the reason why a non-BCS team will ever get a shot at the title and you come back with basketball? Please stick to comparing apples to apples.
And as far as Miami and OK pre and post-BCS national titles go... correct me if I am wrong but are they not part of the BCS conferences?
Can you zoobies name the first and only team in history to break the original BCS-monopoly? I will give you a hint it happened in 2004.
I am not taking anything away from the Y but the 84-Y team would never be ranked #1 in this post-BCS era with their strength of schedule. So don't pound your chests over '84 while downplaying 2004.
Dale Gribble | 8:43 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
re: OH OH PICK ME | 8:34 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Good call!
BYU where history is subjectively spun; The U where history is made.
Good call!
BYU where history is subjectively spun; The U where history is made.
Anonymous | 8:50 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
re:Magna Ute
I guess that eliminates all of the whining about Austin Collies comments about how bYU won the game this year.
I guess that eliminates all of the whining about Austin Collies comments about how bYU won the game this year.
Re: On Your Mind 1:19 pm | 9:24 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Right...the rest of the country accepts BYU's championship in 1984.
BYU's championship in 1984
1. Was because all other teams had lost at least one game
2. IS the reason we have the BCS today
3. Wasn't a national championship game because Michigan (6-5) would not have been national champs if they had won...which they almost did
BYU's national championship has a BIG ASTERISK to go along with it. It was no national championship game.
BYU's championship in 1984
1. Was because all other teams had lost at least one game
2. IS the reason we have the BCS today
3. Wasn't a national championship game because Michigan (6-5) would not have been national champs if they had won...which they almost did
BYU's national championship has a BIG ASTERISK to go along with it. It was no national championship game.
Re: Magna Ute 5:27pm | 9:36 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
That's very funny. I don't understand why we don't have tons of
BYU jokes on this board. BYU is a target rich environment and this week is open
season on BYU.
Let's GO UTES!!!
Let's GO UTES!!!
BYU has never... | 9:42 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Here's something BYU has NEVER done on OR off the field...
BYU has never done anything that would provide revenue to another school (reference Utah 2004 BCS team and BYU taking their share in the charity line).
In fact, BYU has never done ANYTHING for ANYBODY...period.
BYU has never done anything that would provide revenue to another school (reference Utah 2004 BCS team and BYU taking their share in the charity line).
In fact, BYU has never done ANYTHING for ANYBODY...period.
Re: Anonymous 10:45 am | 9:54 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
BYU fans tell you what they've done? Yep, and they reach back to 1984 and
pull an asterisk game out of the bag to do it.
I suppose the inference of your post is that BYU doesn't talk about what they are going to do. Well, I would argue that your own coach does enough of that for the entire "cougar nation." Remember the "Quest for Perfection" campaign? Also, this board is full of BYU fans predicting what is going to happen on Saturday.
Oops, BYU rules only apply to others. I had forgotten and I apologize. My bad.
I suppose the inference of your post is that BYU doesn't talk about what they are going to do. Well, I would argue that your own coach does enough of that for the entire "cougar nation." Remember the "Quest for Perfection" campaign? Also, this board is full of BYU fans predicting what is going to happen on Saturday.
Oops, BYU rules only apply to others. I had forgotten and I apologize. My bad.
Thought you'd like to know | 10:11 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Here's my prediction, BYU by 5 on a last minute score because some Utah guy
forgot to guard Harline or Collie, if the utes win it they will go BCs and get
TROUNCED Utah won a barely ranked Pitt team last time BYU took the championship,
if BYU wins were heading Las Vegas or BCS which i hope we don't because we
will get TROUNCED, Utah's only hope would be to play Oregon State, but OSU
would get into the rose bowl, its impossible for a none BCS team to get into the
Rose Bowl because its Pac ten champion Vs. Big Ten champion. So i guess the
Yewts could hope to play Cincinnati or Maryland, but i wouldn't get your
hopes up because theres still a chance of winning. PS. I've heard a lot of
Utah fans saying how bad we're going to be embarrassed when the Utes run
over the Cougs but if that happens it was expected so if the Cougs run over the
Utes then they will be super embarrassed.
Anonymous | 10:31 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
BYU has never..
sorry to say it, but the only reason Utah is in a conference that has any respect is because BYU gained national recognition. Where was UTAH all those years BYU dominated the conference?
sorry to say it, but the only reason Utah is in a conference that has any respect is because BYU gained national recognition. Where was UTAH all those years BYU dominated the conference?
Anonymous | 10:36 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
On your mind..
Yes congratulation on being the first to break the BSC.. but don't forget the schools that paid the price to get you there.. When does a bowl tell a school they wont be going to the game before the season is even over.. Answer.. the first year a school was trying to break into the BCS.. who was that school? BYU. In today system.. the BCS isn't playing the mind games it did back then.. if it was UTAH would not be going to a BCS and it wouldn't have gone in 2004..
so remember those who made your success possible.
Yes congratulation on being the first to break the BSC.. but don't forget the schools that paid the price to get you there.. When does a bowl tell a school they wont be going to the game before the season is even over.. Answer.. the first year a school was trying to break into the BCS.. who was that school? BYU. In today system.. the BCS isn't playing the mind games it did back then.. if it was UTAH would not be going to a BCS and it wouldn't have gone in 2004..
so remember those who made your success possible.
Mr. BYU | 10:43 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Hey Boise State 8:23: Not all BYU fans spew venom towards Boise State. But I
want to remind you that one of the losses to BSU by BYU could have been won by a
mediocre BYU team if it were not for a missed FG that was usually automatic for
that kicker. The other loss to BSU was by another mediocre BYU team.
As for the B Ball. Boise barely pulled off a victory on a very bad night for BYU. If BYU played them 10 times that year BYU would have won 7.
I will agree that Boise is a solid program, but don't go thinking they are clearly better than BYU!
As for the B Ball. Boise barely pulled off a victory on a very bad night for BYU. If BYU played them 10 times that year BYU would have won 7.
I will agree that Boise is a solid program, but don't go thinking they are clearly better than BYU!
Where were we??? | 10:58 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
BYU fan post:
"sorry to say it, but the only reason Utah is in a conference that has any respect is because BYU gained national recognition. Where was UTAH all those years BYU dominated the conference?"
We were carrying your doormat of a basketball program.
"sorry to say it, but the only reason Utah is in a conference that has any respect is because BYU gained national recognition. Where was UTAH all those years BYU dominated the conference?"
We were carrying your doormat of a basketball program.
Anonymous | 11:10 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Where were we..
"Carrying the basketball program" I will give you that one.. thanks for agreeing with me on the football.
"Carrying the basketball program" I will give you that one.. thanks for agreeing with me on the football.
Final Rankings say it all | 11:12 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Utah fans are simply jealous that the final ranking of Utah's best team of
all time barely surpassed the final ranking of BYU's second highest ranked
team.
What's even sadder is that Utah fans have bought, hook line and sinker, the BCS line that the computers provide of fair assessment of the strength of each team.
Any ranking system that sees no difference between a one-point win and a 50-point blowout is inherently flawed. Utah fans would see what a farce the BCS ranking system is if they weren't so blinded by their attempts to prove that a BCS invite is superior to a national championship.
Just ask USC how fair the BCS ranking system was when they finished the regular season ranked first in the AP and Coaches polls, but were denied a spot in the BCS "championship" game.
The AP voters, not bound contractually to award the championship to one of the teams that the computers selected, chose instead to award their national championship to the team they thought most deserving, USC.
A BCS bid will never be equal, much less better, than a national championship.
Someday, if they ever win one, Utah fans will understand that.
What's even sadder is that Utah fans have bought, hook line and sinker, the BCS line that the computers provide of fair assessment of the strength of each team.
Any ranking system that sees no difference between a one-point win and a 50-point blowout is inherently flawed. Utah fans would see what a farce the BCS ranking system is if they weren't so blinded by their attempts to prove that a BCS invite is superior to a national championship.
Just ask USC how fair the BCS ranking system was when they finished the regular season ranked first in the AP and Coaches polls, but were denied a spot in the BCS "championship" game.
The AP voters, not bound contractually to award the championship to one of the teams that the computers selected, chose instead to award their national championship to the team they thought most deserving, USC.
A BCS bid will never be equal, much less better, than a national championship.
Someday, if they ever win one, Utah fans will understand that.
Okie | 11:18 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
I think everyone is forgetting how BYU looks at Bowl games. They consider them
a reward for having a good season. I don't think they really care which
one. When my son was considering BYU that was the theme, we just want to reward
our players, staff and their families with a bowl. Sure they would like to be
in the BCS, but if not, go play somewhere you can have some "fun in the
sun". If you pick up some bucks even better.
So win or lose against Utah, BYU will be in a bowl somewhere and that is an accomplishment in it self. Many teams would like to go to "any bowl" on any year, unlike the Y that goes pretty much every year.
Good luck to both teams, and enjoy whichever bowl your playing in. We will enjoy watching you. Thanks for a great season.
So win or lose against Utah, BYU will be in a bowl somewhere and that is an accomplishment in it self. Many teams would like to go to "any bowl" on any year, unlike the Y that goes pretty much every year.
Good luck to both teams, and enjoy whichever bowl your playing in. We will enjoy watching you. Thanks for a great season.
RE:OH OH PICK ME | 8:34 p.m. | 12:37 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
LOL. That's a good one. How's that working out for your two boys?
Smith...was that his name? I hear he plays end, guard and tackle now.
Sit's on the end of the bench, guards the water bottle, tackles anybody who
tries to take it.
Bogut is a real rip snorter too, huh? I've been watching for your two #1 boys in the Pro-Bowl and All Star games. Did I miss something???
Bogut is a real rip snorter too, huh? I've been watching for your two #1 boys in the Pro-Bowl and All Star games. Did I miss something???
RE: First rankings say it all | 4:38 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
"Utah fans are simply jealous"
Jealous of BYU? Don't make me throw up! BCS is a joke. So you are saying it is harder to win a title if people pick up over a computer (i.e 84)... well I'm saying the 84 team which beat no ranked team would never be in the title game under the BCS system.
Jealous of BYU? Don't make me throw up! BCS is a joke. So you are saying it is harder to win a title if people pick up over a computer (i.e 84)... well I'm saying the 84 team which beat no ranked team would never be in the title game under the BCS system.
To: Championships this Decade | 7:44 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
The Cougs have four, 2001, 2006, 2007, and 2008. So what's your point?
KARRL | 8:04 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
all you ute fans watch out. Us cougars have been reading our scripts and fasting
for this game. We don't need that bcs money. We have our own bcs. its
called tithing snitches!!! I can't wait for another 4th and 21 to happen
again you ute fans. We've kept our cussing in check this season, so it will
be an easy victory
Anonymous | 8:05 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
I WOULDN'T CHEER FOR UTAH IN THIS GAME IF IT MEANT THAT I PERSONALLY WOULD
GET $650,000. GET REAL!
GO COUGARS
GO COUGARS
Cali Coug | 8:11 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
4th and 18 baby
Paco | 8:46 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
Aaron | 3:16 a.m. Nov. 20, 2008
How's the Ute basketball team? How many times has Utah beat Byu in the past 2 years?
This is about football, not hip hop, lame basketball, NOBODY CARES
Thank you come again.
How's the Ute basketball team? How many times has Utah beat Byu in the past 2 years?
This is about football, not hip hop, lame basketball, NOBODY CARES
Thank you come again.
Tarheel Ute - KARRL-Troll Alert | 9:47 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
Troll: KARRL must be a troll, of the worst sort. No BYU fan would be such and
idiot the have written such a disgraceful comment. I hope KARRL is not a Ute
fan either.
All in fun but that's a little much.
All in fun but that's a little much.
re: KARRL | 10:37 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
Even "the mailman" was more eloquent than you were with that post. I
can tell from your complete lack of mental effort that you probably are a High
School Student (at East High or somewhere deep in Ute fair-weather territory).
Don't disgrace the U with comments like those.
BYU vs. utah on BYU TV!!!! | 11:44 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
I just got off the phone with dish network. I lIVE IN AZ so this may be
different for us but... They told me that due to the insane amount of complaints
that they are going to broadcast the BYU vs. Utah game for us on BYU TV.
That is because we cannot get it here any other way and BYU is awesome. It will be on Channel 9403 but they haven't determined what time it will air yet. I hope live but they said that it will show up on the guide tomorrow around noon. So there is hope for some of us, to still see this game. (The reality is that we wouldn't even get to see the highlights on espn otherwise
Go BYU, Go Dish Network. Go BYU TV!!!!
That is because we cannot get it here any other way and BYU is awesome. It will be on Channel 9403 but they haven't determined what time it will air yet. I hope live but they said that it will show up on the guide tomorrow around noon. So there is hope for some of us, to still see this game. (The reality is that we wouldn't even get to see the highlights on espn otherwise
Go BYU, Go Dish Network. Go BYU TV!!!!
The Mailman | 12:49 p.m. Nov. 21, 2008
Here's for all you wondering what Utah have did over the years that BYU
have not did:
1. Been shut out by a hapless UNLV team.
2. Tried an onside kick when ahead of an opponent by more than 40 points late in the third quarter.
3. Tried to recover said onside kick before it traveled the required 10 yards.
4. Resorted to a gimmick of having everyone wear black. (wooooo, scary)
5. Drop 9 men into pass coverage on the final play of a game, yet somehow, inexplicably, leave the other team's top receiver uncovered.
6. Use all that SEC-quality speed on defense to forget the cardinal rule of letting the other team's best receiver get behind you on 4th-and-18.
7. Have your coach give a one-armed salute when he wins his first game in your stadium.
8. Have your fans get Tazered at a real stadium after being pre-conditioned by Rice-Eccles Security to rush the field after every mediocre victory.
9. Claim to invent cold fusion.
10. Allow your QB to play in a bowl game after he was accused of treating a women in a bar like his center.
Plenty more, but word limit is up!
1. Been shut out by a hapless UNLV team.
2. Tried an onside kick when ahead of an opponent by more than 40 points late in the third quarter.
3. Tried to recover said onside kick before it traveled the required 10 yards.
4. Resorted to a gimmick of having everyone wear black. (wooooo, scary)
5. Drop 9 men into pass coverage on the final play of a game, yet somehow, inexplicably, leave the other team's top receiver uncovered.
6. Use all that SEC-quality speed on defense to forget the cardinal rule of letting the other team's best receiver get behind you on 4th-and-18.
7. Have your coach give a one-armed salute when he wins his first game in your stadium.
8. Have your fans get Tazered at a real stadium after being pre-conditioned by Rice-Eccles Security to rush the field after every mediocre victory.
9. Claim to invent cold fusion.
10. Allow your QB to play in a bowl game after he was accused of treating a women in a bar like his center.
Plenty more, but word limit is up!
stephen77 | 12:59 p.m. Nov. 21, 2008
the bcs is full of it anyway. to even think of taking two big ten teams is
stupid. the bt shouldnt beat your mother. let get rid of the bcs, and ve a real
champ like they do in the lower div.
The List Goes On ... | 1:33 p.m. Nov. 21, 2008
Great job, Mailman. Too bad you ran out of room, I'm sure you would have
also brought up these other things Utah have did that BYU have not did:
Played in the Fiesta Bowl. (Congrats on that! It's the one legitimate thing you can hang your helmets on.)
Played in the Armed Forces Bowl.
Played in the Emerald Bowl.
Played in the Poinsettia Bowl.
And here's hoping you add one more to the list after BYU beats you Saturday and jumps Boise State into the BCS ... play in the Las Vegas Bowl AS A LEAGUE CHAMPION (or in this case co-champion).
I wish you all the luck on that -- truly I do.
Played in the Fiesta Bowl. (Congrats on that! It's the one legitimate thing you can hang your helmets on.)
Played in the Armed Forces Bowl.
Played in the Emerald Bowl.
Played in the Poinsettia Bowl.
And here's hoping you add one more to the list after BYU beats you Saturday and jumps Boise State into the BCS ... play in the Las Vegas Bowl AS A LEAGUE CHAMPION (or in this case co-champion).
I wish you all the luck on that -- truly I do.
ute1 | 1:55 p.m. Nov. 21, 2008
utah=12-0
byu's quest for perfection is down the drain
utah 24
byu 16
byu's quest for perfection is down the drain
utah 24
byu 16
Poinsettia Bowl rep | 7:14 p.m. Nov. 21, 2008
Hey, Coach Whittingham, just wanted you to know that I will be on hand tomorrow
to personally extend our invitation for your return visit to our bowl.
We're looking forward to hosting you again.
Luckily we pick ahead of the Armed Forces Bowl.
We're looking forward to hosting you again.
Luckily we pick ahead of the Armed Forces Bowl.
Dale Gribble | 8:01 p.m. Nov. 21, 2008
re: RE:OH OH PICK ME | 8:34 p.m. | 12:37 a.m. Nov. 21, 2008
And Ty Detmer was a scrub too. Go figure!?
And Ty Detmer was a scrub too. Go figure!?
SEC rules beehive drools | 11:04 p.m. Nov. 21, 2008
re: re: re: re: Re: On Your Mind | 7:14 p.m. Nov. 20, 2008
Earth to re: re: Re: On Your Mind:
>>Anybody else notice how Urban basically said he was no longer in favor of a playoff system that would allow non-=BCS teams like Utah in?
Yeah, you Ute sheep should be really proud of Urban and Bernie Machen. They've really got your backs.<<
Realisticly, you had to know Urban's tenure on the hill would be short. I doubt Ute fans give 2 hoots about Meyer's change of heart.
Does Crowton still have the Y's best interest at heart? I'd bet its still troubling to the fans of TDS to see Crowton win a NC so soon after being canned still by the Y.
If Bronco's goal is to get the best LDS athletes how did he not get Andrew Hatch to transfer from the original Harvard to the Harvard of the west I mean BYU. Instead, he ends up in Baton Rogue.
Earth to re: re: Re: On Your Mind:
>>Anybody else notice how Urban basically said he was no longer in favor of a playoff system that would allow non-=BCS teams like Utah in?
Yeah, you Ute sheep should be really proud of Urban and Bernie Machen. They've really got your backs.<<
Realisticly, you had to know Urban's tenure on the hill would be short. I doubt Ute fans give 2 hoots about Meyer's change of heart.
Does Crowton still have the Y's best interest at heart? I'd bet its still troubling to the fans of TDS to see Crowton win a NC so soon after being canned still by the Y.
If Bronco's goal is to get the best LDS athletes how did he not get Andrew Hatch to transfer from the original Harvard to the Harvard of the west I mean BYU. Instead, he ends up in Baton Rogue.
SEC Investigation | 12:53 a.m. Nov. 22, 2008
Actually, BYU fans got a big kick out of seeing Crowton get over on Urban last
year. Funny how how a coach we fired could outsmart the Golden Boy Meyer last
year.
Besides, BYU showed Crowton what's what when they trounced Oregon.
BYU fans hold no ill will toward Crowton. He just couldn't get the job done here as the head coach. But he's a great offensive coordinator.
Besides, BYU showed Crowton what's what when they trounced Oregon.
BYU fans hold no ill will toward Crowton. He just couldn't get the job done here as the head coach. But he's a great offensive coordinator.
Deadface | 9:36 a.m. Nov. 23, 2008
As a BIG TEN fan, I'd take a 10-2 record, and go off to Vegas or San Diego
for Christmas.
BYU has shown on several occasions since getting whooped by TCU, that they do not have the defensive speed that is required to keep up with the Utes or TCU.
Instead of going for perfection, go schedule some games with the Big Ten or Big 12, and see how you fare against them. I would be paying money to see the Y go to Iowa or Wisconsin. How about the Y going to play Oklahoma, Texas, Ok. State, Texas Tech or Missouri?
BYU has shown on several occasions since getting whooped by TCU, that they do not have the defensive speed that is required to keep up with the Utes or TCU.
Instead of going for perfection, go schedule some games with the Big Ten or Big 12, and see how you fare against them. I would be paying money to see the Y go to Iowa or Wisconsin. How about the Y going to play Oklahoma, Texas, Ok. State, Texas Tech or Missouri?
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"You are correct, under BCS rules, the Y would have played in the championship game in 84... and would have been beaten like a rug. (Think Hawaii v. Georgia last year.)"
Nice comment, Einstein. Back away from the Red Kool-Aid and sip a dose of reality.
The only other two teams vying for the title at the end of 1984 were Oklahoma and Washington. Washington beat Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl. (Ergo, Oklahoma is out of the discussion.)
Early the next year, BYU beat Washington, how did you describe it, oh, yeah, "like a rug" like 31-3 or something like that. I suppose the Cougs did look a little overmatched. Another 10 points on their lead and they could have tried an onside kick.
Now, I know that was the next year, so there's no way of knowing what would have happened at the end of the year before. But to insinuate that BYU would have been beaten like Hawaii was -- well, that's just idiotic.
Using your same logic, any non-BCS team playing a BCS team should get drilled in a bowl. Geez, your own school proved otherwise.
Get a clue.