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Settlement talks begin over FLDS trust
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If I was a FLDS, there is no way I would agree to run the trust with ex-FLDS members. That would just drag the battle on.
Here is the solution, pay the ex-members the value of their work and property and give the rest back to the FLDS.
The trust belongs to the FLDS. Turn the whole thing over to the church and let the new FLDS board have control.
Ex-members getting anything or having any say is about as logical as giving ex-Catholics their money back and inviting them to run the Vatican.
If there are outstanding FLDS debts the FLDS members can settle the mess.......give the MEMBERS control of their property back.
Remember that the FLDS church is a recent organization (sometime in the early 90's). While current FLDS members claim that their church goes back to the days of 1942, when the Trust was created, that position is simply not true. The FLDS church evolved from one of the many factions that spun off from the earlier fundamentalist movement. They are the largest single group, and they are certainly the most visible. But they are not the only one.
The 2005 restatement defines the beneficiary class broadly, as well it should. There is no justice in giving the FLDS church all of the trust assets and the ability to, willy nilly, throw members out of their homes.
Church membership is based on adherance to church principles - it is not guaranteed just because you are born to it - like citizenship for instance. The UEP was set up to care for FAITHFUL FLDS members. That is the legal wording; and the judge, fiduciary and attorney generals office changed it, without ANY input from ANY faithful FLDS member - constitutionally violating their religious rights.
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This is exactly right. But the state has taken the opposite position, that FLDS apostates have more rights than present members. And the actions of Wisan suggest that the real interest of the state is not the beneficiaries, either past or present, but is to loot and dissipate the trust until there is nothing left. Look what he has done already with the approval of the judge, selling off land to pay his and his attorney�s inflated salaries, then buying up that land himself, thus doubly enriching himself. Would this be allowed if the trust were Catholic or mainstream Mormon?
So dont blame the state for Warrens multiple failings. The FLDS trusted him and found that was a big mistake.
So now the state has to reboot it and make it right for all who contribute, and protect current members from future insane acts by a future insane prophet.
This mess sounds like a three way circus.People who had no control over the trust, just want to live their lives in piece, while there are money grubbers who want anything done to get money for any cause.
This article is right, no one will get what they watn. Simple solution, let flds keep their land through the trust, with someone who cares running the trust. What ever debt there is, have the government pay it off, since the US goverment is paying off everyone elses debts. After the debts are paid, the government needs to put the trust under some sort of protection, so that it can't go broke or have millions of people wanting money because their lives were ruined. I have seen this before, people battling over land and money in courts. Tons of legal fees are ran up, then don't get paid because there is no solution.
"What ever debt there is, have the government pay it off...After the debts are paid, the government needs to put the trust under some sort of protection, so that it can't go broke."
And then the financial fairy godmother will wave her magic wand and free property and money will rain down from heaven but only land in the hands of FLDS members currently in good standing with the prophet.
so it's ok with you that parents willing to pimp out their little girls should get some of the trust, but parents that pushed back and wouldn't do things that are blatantly wrong should lose everything they worked for? Great idea.... lol
I say give it all to the ex-members that were smart enough to get out, and nothing to the current members. Anyone stupid enough to obey Warren Jeffs (and think he's some sort of prophet, as if being a prophet was a hand-me-down job) deserves nothing.
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