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Gay-rights activists call for LDS help

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This appears to be an interesting tactic, to claim support that isn't supported by facts that can be substantiated.

No fear, if lawmakers are supporting the measures, they will be known when they vote.

"This is going to take time..." These people have no clue about eternal principles, do they?

�Now is not the time to sit back and be quiet anymore�.

Here here! Those of us who support Prop 8 and supporting traditional marriage, let�s also not sit back and be quiet! If those who are out to destroy traditional marriage are going to prepare for battle, the vast majority of Americans who support traditional marriage need to do the same.

We have been told that the day would come where society will call evil good and good evil. It is time for us to stand up and defend good and make it known that we will not stand for evil to be called good!

"Now is not the time to sit back and be quiet anymore...Now is the time to speak up for what you believe in."

Would Mr./Ms. Redstone mind if I did the same, AGAINST gay marriage? Or would my house and place of worship be vandalized next, my name and contributions published on the internet so I can receive hate mail and boycotts?

Don't be surprised if the LDS Church doesn't voice its support on these bills. While it may not oppose them, helping them pass would look an awful lot like endorsing the homosexual union.

This publicity stunt is not about ending discrimination but forcing societal validation for their way of life. Gay couples already have the ability to grant hospitalization rights to their partner through existing laws.

Their strategy is to pass seemingly harmless laws that will give them legal precedent so that once enough laws are in place, they can file a lawsuit against the constitutionality of the gay-marriage ban by claiming that they already have all of the rights and benefits associated with marriage, and therefore, their relationship should be recognized the same as marriage by government and society.

Senator Scott McCoy who leads the gay rights legislative agenda in the State Legislature is no dummy. He knows exactly what he's doing.

What makes me uncofortable is the thought of Prop 8 passing...and having my church sued and adoptions messed up etc. because gay activists want to have their way. It happened in MA. Don't try to say it won't happen in CA if it would have failed.

I get sick of hearing how civil rights have been violated. What a croc. There are NO civil rights violations here because being gay is a CHOICE. If you choose to do something that is wrong, you shouldn't be awarded additional rights just because you don't want to change.

When are the gay and lesbian community going to ever get it? Please quit trying to cram your views down our throats. I couldn't care less about political correctness! I'm tired of this! In my eyes, your "alternative lifestyle" is not acceptable and nothing you say or do will ever change my beliefs on the subject. And in so doing, you will never find inner peace! All the forced acceptance you could ever receive, won't clear your conscience.

Why do they want the support of the LDS church? I thought their whole basis of lashing out at the Church--the protests and all the "secret" persecution was to declare that the LDS church should stay out of societal issues because of "separation of church and state."

I wonder if we'll hear anything this time around. Will the plea be different when listening to parents talk of their unprotected children?
These are basic rights - basic Human rights. I can't imagine, as a parent, raising a child while the State you live in treats them as second class citizens.

I don't trust these gay activist people. They are pretty slick at pulling the wool over our eyes. We agree to give them basic rights (which they already have) and next thing you know, they're trying to tell us that 2+2 =5, and if we tell them it doesn't add up...they protest and sue everybody.

Why do people think that Gay marriage will destroy the union of marriage. More than 50 persent of marriages fail and end in divorce.

It is time for everyone to get off of their moral high horse and look at the Consitution of the United States. The right to Life, Liberty and the Persuit of Happines, regardless of religion or belief.

It is your right to not agree with Gay marriage, but not your right to deny them their persuit of happines just because you dont agree with it. They are not harming any individuals by getting married.

I think the LDS church or any church in general should stay OUT of this issue of marriage!! This is the law and a society issue. I'm sick of this religion debate over marriage!! Remember that it is in the name of religion that people today hate Americans and killed many in the past. Come on... Grow up people and start to take care of your own business. So many people are concern about what others are doing or how they live their life that they forget to do the most important principle in this life which is to live it!! You don't like gays getting marriage don't marry one. Stop forcing other to do as you want or believe is right!! If you are perfect please throw the first stone, but someone we all know taught me otherwise. Is that simple... and by the way I'm NOT gay!!

Its about time we start calling what it realy is! Deviant Behavior. And not accept two wrongs as a justification for a right. We as a people must stand up for the future of our country and world. The idea that two be people can fornicate as long as it's consensual, is ludicress, and dangerous. Just look around and see if you can find any one famiy thats not impacted by imoral behavior.(and yes it is Deviant Behavior). The idea that civil rights are being denied is a false premise, and is a dangerous prescind, as is abortion on demand,and the impact on so many lives. Homosexuality is not an excuse for hate but, When ever a small segment of socity tries to change the perception of an obvious wrong thats the injustice! So to all you out there that are concerned for our country and people, beware of the messange! A behavior is not an instinct or is it genetic. No one is perfect but we can strive to be better. Be brave and don't give up.

I don't think the Church will respond to this request. Wouldn't that be shooting themselves in the foot? Openly supporting rights is like supporting the gay lifestyle, and I don't think THAT's going to happen.
That being said, the whole anti Prop 8 protest thing is just ridiculous. I've done my research (believe me) and the only difference in rights in CA is that gay people might have to pay some money to set up a legal will for their partner, whereas in a marriage it's often automatic that the spouse will inherit. The Federal Government however is a different story. They won't allow gays to file taxes jointly therefore they miss out on tax benefits. But that's the Feds.
In the meantime, if you think that (I quote) "50 persent of marriages fail" anyways you must not think of marriage that seriously anyways, so what's the big deal. Can't you have a ceremony anyways? (without the legalities)
I believe in marriage between a MAN and a WOMAN, and that is MY right. I DON'T agree with people threatening and scaring others about their rights--that's called tyranny--the minority trying to rule over the majority. Think about THAT!

Hey mike thompson, instead of grandstanding have you tried calling the LDS Church on the phone? That would be the modern thing to do. Before you call, figure out if you want a seperation of church and state. One day you do and the next day you don't. It sounds like you movement is suffering from a little bit of political schizophrenia.

Interesting comments have been made, including, "Now is the time to speak up for what you believe in" and "This is the law and a society issue." So which is it? Should we speak up for what we believe in or stay out of a law and society issue? Aren't they one and the same? I believe that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God. In this democratic society, all have a right to vote as they believe and to speak up for what they believe.

Just because I don't want two men calling their relationship marriage doesn't mean I am throwing the first stone. This is getting rediculous! Just because I'm not willing to change my definition of something doen't make me hateful, judgemental or a bigot. I can definetely say alot more
"stones" have been thrown by the gay community.

Comfortable says: "There are NO civil rights violations here because being gay is a CHOICE." "Comfortable" might want to check his facts with medical and scientific organizations such as The American Psychiatric Association, The American Psychological Association or a host of others. Having spent almost 20 years in "corrective" analysis in the days where being gay was seen as an illness and finally having come to accept myself as God made me and getting on with life after so many years of struggle, I can tell you that nobody would make such a "choice." Being led to believe that one can make such a choice or pray away being gay has been the road to many suicides, depressed and dysfunctional people, to say nothing of being unable to find the happiness a relationship can bring you. I can speak for that also, having a wonderful partner now and being happier and more creative and alive than any time in my life. We both wonder why it took us so long in life to find each other. But the answer lies in the kind of disinformation "Comfortable" is pushing.

Trying to take religion out marriage is like trying to take elected officials out of government. Religious beliefs have always been a part of marriage. It was God who instituted marriage in the beginning.