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Hundreds take to S.L. streets to protest, support Prop. 8 ban on gay marriage
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Richard G. | 4:04 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
The Mormon church has stepped waaaaayyy over the line by actively spurring its
members to convert religious belief into civil law.
Yes, Mormons have the right to vote and express their opinion, but that doesn't mean what they do with that right is the right thing. In this case, they have abused their rights to strip fellow human beings of human rights.
In my book, that is a hate crime.
The Mormon church will reap what it has sowed, namely, hatred.
Yes, Mormons have the right to vote and express their opinion, but that doesn't mean what they do with that right is the right thing. In this case, they have abused their rights to strip fellow human beings of human rights.
In my book, that is a hate crime.
The Mormon church will reap what it has sowed, namely, hatred.
Pitiful | 4:09 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Can't win in the ballot box, then go to the streets claiming the other side
is discriminatory. Pretty sad. Go ahead and protest and you'll see the
sleeping giant of conservatism arise. Yes, liberals carry the day currently in
the House, Senate and White House, but guaranteed if a true conservative comes
forward in 2012, with the past 4 years having ridiculous lawsuits against
constitutionally passed ammendments, or if courts continue to rule without
legislation (see Connecticut), the sleeping giant of conservatism will arise to
claim power once again. Nothing upsets the populace more than courts
overturning legislation, and petty protests denying freedom of speech for those
who disagree with you. The only ones spewing hatred right now are the
protestors in favor of gay marriage against religion. Nothing in the Mormon or
Catholic stance tolerated hatred for the other side, contrary to those
protesting them now.
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Henry Drummond | 4:11 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
It appears that the Church's prominent role in defeating marriage rights
for homosexuals is backfiring. I don't think I have ever seen the Gay
Rights movement more united and the Church has set itself up as the uniting
force.
In the end the Mormons will cause everything they have been trying to avoid. They have sown the wind, and are reaping the whirlwind.
In the end the Mormons will cause everything they have been trying to avoid. They have sown the wind, and are reaping the whirlwind.
Calm Down | 4:12 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
If pro-gay marriage supporters truly feel their cause is just and reasonable,
they should stop the protests and create a proposition to support their
position. Then spend the next year or two defending and promoting the position.
Let the people vote again. This was not the last election where such decisions
can be made. Let the democratic process function. Mob rule is not the answer.
nostradomis | 4:19 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Gettysburg Address:.....government of the people, by the people, for the people,
shall not perish from the earth. Democracy itself defined by President Lincoln,
democracy in California has spoken Prop 8, deal with it.
porky | 4:20 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Unless these marchers also take their cause up to the Cathedral of the Madeline,
then they too are just as bigoted as they claim LDS are.
too bad they don't realize their attacks on Utah is hurting their cause more than helping it.
too bad they don't realize their attacks on Utah is hurting their cause more than helping it.
ANNOYING! | 4:21 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
This really has gotten past the point of ANNOYING!
Not only are you closing major streets down, but the commuter's on these streets are ANNOYED with all of you! (even those who voted no on 8), AND the fact that this is "after-the-fact."
The voice of the people spoke LOUD AND CLEAR in ALL 3 STATES! Give it a rest. Mask's are off and everyone really see's who you are. And it's not pretty. It's ANNOYING! Just like it would be if I were to stand outside the front of the white house with my McCain sign throwing a 3-year old temper tantrum, because Obama is now the president.
A N N O Y I N G!
Not only are you closing major streets down, but the commuter's on these streets are ANNOYED with all of you! (even those who voted no on 8), AND the fact that this is "after-the-fact."
The voice of the people spoke LOUD AND CLEAR in ALL 3 STATES! Give it a rest. Mask's are off and everyone really see's who you are. And it's not pretty. It's ANNOYING! Just like it would be if I were to stand outside the front of the white house with my McCain sign throwing a 3-year old temper tantrum, because Obama is now the president.
A N N O Y I N G!
New Yorker | 4:21 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
They are right. A sleeping giant is being awakened. That is the 98% heterosexual
community. We are seeing what bigots some of these glbt really are. Keep pushing
and you'll get much more than you want. Be happy with civil unions and
continue to play house. Fortunately, reproduction will continue to keep your
numbers at 2%. You have ruined the word gay and the sign of the rainbow. There
was all of 75 protesters here in NYC out of 8 million people. Now that is
gigantic!
john | 4:25 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Let the gays get married and be miserable like the rest of us.
Yay! | 4:25 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Go gays! Gay marriage will be a reality. If not today then tomorrow or in 10
years!
Snippy | 4:30 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Don�t H8 democracy.
Democracy | 4:33 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Sandra Rodrigues, like many Americans do not understand our government. Many
people argue the point that the state Supreme Court should have listened to the
"will of the people" when it made its decision allowing gay marriage
to be legal.
One thing this proves is that much of the citizenry is ill informed about the purpose of the judicial system. One of the reasons it was made a separate branch was to specifically insulate it from the whims of the electorate. It is not, and never has been, the job of justices to base their decisions upon what a majority of the people want. It is their job to protect the minority from the will of the majority when the majority favors abrogating the constitutional rights of the minority.
Everyone is free to disagree with the arguments that their decisions are based upon - but, please don't try to make the point that they should be paying attention to how the people vote on an issue.
One thing this proves is that much of the citizenry is ill informed about the purpose of the judicial system. One of the reasons it was made a separate branch was to specifically insulate it from the whims of the electorate. It is not, and never has been, the job of justices to base their decisions upon what a majority of the people want. It is their job to protect the minority from the will of the majority when the majority favors abrogating the constitutional rights of the minority.
Everyone is free to disagree with the arguments that their decisions are based upon - but, please don't try to make the point that they should be paying attention to how the people vote on an issue.
B. Heath | 4:33 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
It's so ironic that this Rodriguez woman would ask that people respect
democracy and the will of the voters. Are civil rights subject to the whim of
the voting public? Could this same public theoretically vote to take away
rights from other groups, reinstate segregation and slavery? NO! Civil rights
do not exist at the pleasure of a voting majority. They are inherent to all
people and immune to prejudice and ignorance. I don't think a lot of
people understand what it means to have your very identity brought before the
public as a ballot proposition, how insulting and dehumanizing it is to be
publicly legislated against as a person. These same people will sit and wonder
why we are lashing out in frustration and sadness at being relegated to a
second class status. All I can say is, this is going to get a lot worse and, if
the civil rights struggles of the 1960's are any indication, we are in for
a lot of social upheaval as gay Americans stand up and say: "No more! We
deserve the same rights that you enjoy and we will fight to the death to protect
them!"
SanDiegoD | 4:34 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
"They are persecuting our church and other people in California, but they
need to get a life and honor democracy," said Sandra Rodrigues, of
Cottonwood Heights.
Majority is not always correct - Amendments 13 & 15, Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education, Civil Rights Act of 1964, Loving vs. Virginia - US history is filled with a steady progression of minority civil rights being gained despite the bigoted views of the majority.
You came into a state that is not yours, and poured millions of dollars into stripping the civil rights away from a minority group on a ballot issue that was not in your state and therefore was none of your business. Who exactly needs to get a life, here?
Majority is not always correct - Amendments 13 & 15, Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education, Civil Rights Act of 1964, Loving vs. Virginia - US history is filled with a steady progression of minority civil rights being gained despite the bigoted views of the majority.
You came into a state that is not yours, and poured millions of dollars into stripping the civil rights away from a minority group on a ballot issue that was not in your state and therefore was none of your business. Who exactly needs to get a life, here?
Harry Kuheim | 4:36 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
I see the Gay community only respects a vote in a Democratic election that goes
their way.Just as Obama supporters are crowing about how wonderful democracy is
when and only when their guy wins.Heaven forbid that McCain would of won the
election,this would have been another miscarrage of Democracy.
Jeremy Cruz | 4:38 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Why are LGBT's focusing completely on the LDS Church? The Church State
Council of the Seventh-day Adventist Church (in Westlake Village, CA) also
backed the proposition 8 proposal.
All of this demonstrating looks anti-Mormon and not pro-LGBT. They are singling out a single minority to express there discouragement against. Sound even slightly familiar?
All of this demonstrating looks anti-Mormon and not pro-LGBT. They are singling out a single minority to express there discouragement against. Sound even slightly familiar?
Kathy | 4:39 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
I am totally disgusted by the behavior of the GLBT by singling out the Mormon
Churches. They are hurting their cause by doing this. The vote should count and
the people have spoken. The GLBT think that they can walk over everyone else to
get their way. What will be next? I have seen some very hateful behavior by them
and they call everyone else a bigot.
Yawn | 4:41 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Wa Wa. I hope all you people can find something constructive to do. I
don't think you'll be able to keep up the protests forever. Like was
said before, get it on the ballot again in the next election. Maybe you'll
win. And luckily, Mormons will continue to fight it no matter what because God
never changes and we don't either. The United States will likely continue
down the same path it has been, destroying itself from inside. It's been
prophesied; it's not news to us. But it is still our responsibility to
fight against it. And in the end, you'll see who's right.
Sarah | 4:42 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
NEW YORKER: AMEN AMEN AMEN
Gettysburg? | 4:42 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Interesting choice of address. You should have picked a time and place where the
president wasn't speaking in the context of protecting the rights of an
oppressed minority against the will of half the country's population.
State-sanctioned bigotry is never right, no matter how many people approve of
it. Most of those who support it now will pretend like they didn't when
mainstream culture finally turns in favor of life and liberty and justice for
all.
Re: Richard G | 4:43 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Hatred? It seems like everywhere I looked, it's the gay and lesbian
community who is showing hatred here. They are loud and boisterous and trying
to shove their lifestyle in people's faces. It's not a political
issue, it is a moral issue and the religious community has every right to
express it's view and doing it in a civilize and peaceful way.
Scott | 4:43 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Mormons have not stepped over the line, they have DRAWN the line. There is no
hatred being spewed, just a declaration of what is not right or good for
society. Yes selfish people will do whatever they want, "calling evil
good, and good, evil" but it will never be the right thing to do. It is
wrong and will always be wrong. Until God says otherwise.
There is a larger agenda ... | 4:44 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
I used to think the majority of gay marriage supporters were just trying to get
some form of basic recognition - and not looking to shove it down others
throats. However, if that were the case, it makes me wonder why a civil union
would not be sufficient?
Still, if one looks at the recent legal attacks on organizations affiliated with religious institutions in Americans by gay activists leveraging their newly-established rights as gay married couples (eg Catholic orphanages or even the Boy Scouts), it's clear that the gay activist lobby groups like LAMBDA and HRC definitely have a larger agenda in mind to hurt or change churches to the point they either go away (eg get their IRS tax-exempt status stripped) or have them change their fundamental values to accommodate gay clergy or laity.
Still, if one looks at the recent legal attacks on organizations affiliated with religious institutions in Americans by gay activists leveraging their newly-established rights as gay married couples (eg Catholic orphanages or even the Boy Scouts), it's clear that the gay activist lobby groups like LAMBDA and HRC definitely have a larger agenda in mind to hurt or change churches to the point they either go away (eg get their IRS tax-exempt status stripped) or have them change their fundamental values to accommodate gay clergy or laity.
You will have to kill us tyrants | 4:45 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
B. Heath,
"It's so ironic that this Rodriguez woman would ask that people respect democracy and the will of the voters. Are civil rights subject to the whim of the voting public?"
Marriage isn't a civil right. You can lie all you want but the right to vote unlike marriage is our civil right.
"All I can say is, this is going to get a lot worse and, if the civil rights struggles of the 1960's are any indication, we are in for a lot of social upheaval as gay Americans stand up and say: "No more. We deserve the same rights that you enjoy and we will fight to the death to protect them!"
And we will fight to the death to protect our right to make the law. Do not threaten us, or attempt to intimidate us because you can have our dead bodies but not our obedience. You have the same rights as us and we have never discriminated against you and those who agree with you are tyrants who want to force the majority to change the law that any gay person can benefit from because you think you are our masters.
"It's so ironic that this Rodriguez woman would ask that people respect democracy and the will of the voters. Are civil rights subject to the whim of the voting public?"
Marriage isn't a civil right. You can lie all you want but the right to vote unlike marriage is our civil right.
"All I can say is, this is going to get a lot worse and, if the civil rights struggles of the 1960's are any indication, we are in for a lot of social upheaval as gay Americans stand up and say: "No more. We deserve the same rights that you enjoy and we will fight to the death to protect them!"
And we will fight to the death to protect our right to make the law. Do not threaten us, or attempt to intimidate us because you can have our dead bodies but not our obedience. You have the same rights as us and we have never discriminated against you and those who agree with you are tyrants who want to force the majority to change the law that any gay person can benefit from because you think you are our masters.
Kelly | 4:47 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
No one should have to get a ballot passed in order to KEEP their rights or to
win their rights. Just imagine if it had been up to a popular vote when slavery
was abolished or women won the right to vote..what is that about. The majority
should NEVER get to vote away the rights of the minority. Keep pushing your hate
and it will backfire on you. Keep taking away rights and your rights will be
next. Wake up and smell the future. The Mormon Church put themselves in this
battle, so be it. Oh and as a final note, I am totally disgusted by the behavior
of people that have nothing better to do than to try to take away or keep away
others rights. If the church keeps messing around in states rights, their rights
will be the next to go....peace.
Mike | 4:47 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
This is simply amazing... these protests aren't being organized by the
major gay organizations - they are being put together by people who are outraged
that a religious organization would dare put their dogma into a state
constitution. We have separation of church and state in this country - and
people are waking up to the fact of "who's rights are next?"
This whole proposition 8 thing is going to backfire and do for gay marriage what
years of lobbying could never do. It will galvanize ALL AMERICANS to realize
that it is wrong to discriminate. This is the first time that minority rights
have been voted away by a majority - and people are slowing waking up to the
injustice of that. Doesn't matter if you are gay or straight, married or
not... people intuitively know it is WRONG. The bigots will lose, and they know
it. Equality will prevail!
francis kelly | 4:47 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
honosectually is now a constitutional right? give me a break
Cat | 4:47 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Interesting.
First California decides that, yes, not allowing Gays the civil right to marry is unconstitutional. Then people and churches got mad because they didn't have a say in the decision to whether or not Gays should be allowed to marry and they commence on creating a Proposition to have it defined because they deemed it an affront to the church...even though the "claim" was that it was because it should have gone through a democratic vote.
So after this close election, people decided for Prop 8 (and from what I've seen people voted for this for il-informed reasons...yes they were il-informed) and Gay Activists are rallying to make the nation pay attention to this insult.
I believe that there are some things that people should not vote on, like this. I feel that California had every correct intention to protect the basic civil rights of their citizens when they did this and the people crying foul should have just accepted it.
Ask yourselves why they didn't just accept this decision as a form of protecting citizens' rights.
First California decides that, yes, not allowing Gays the civil right to marry is unconstitutional. Then people and churches got mad because they didn't have a say in the decision to whether or not Gays should be allowed to marry and they commence on creating a Proposition to have it defined because they deemed it an affront to the church...even though the "claim" was that it was because it should have gone through a democratic vote.
So after this close election, people decided for Prop 8 (and from what I've seen people voted for this for il-informed reasons...yes they were il-informed) and Gay Activists are rallying to make the nation pay attention to this insult.
I believe that there are some things that people should not vote on, like this. I feel that California had every correct intention to protect the basic civil rights of their citizens when they did this and the people crying foul should have just accepted it.
Ask yourselves why they didn't just accept this decision as a form of protecting citizens' rights.
Angela | 4:47 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
In simple terms this country was founded on Freedom and the Pursuit of
Happiness. Live and Let Live
LDS CORPORATION | 4:49 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Equality will win! Gay people will have the right to marry. We're only
talking about how long we have to wait. Let's have homosexuals and the
Mormons come to a settlement which should make everyone happy - Let's set a
minimum age for consent and let's say the parties have to be human beings,
as long as the parties meet those two minimum requirements they can get married
- heck, let's even say they can marry as many as they want - who cares
(except the religious zealots and "traditonal thinkers")
John | 4:49 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Why did the Morman Church spend so much money trying to pass Prop. 8? Who
gains? Gay marriage does nothing to threaten heterosexual marriage. Polygamy
does much more to threaten it. Polygamy has been a part of the Morman Church
for a long time as has having under-age girls marry. Talk about threatening
traditional marriage!
Plus it is interesting that the Christian right has, for the most part, attacked homosexuality on every front. What is it, exactly, that they are afraid of? On the list of things to worry about, I'd think a gay couple as neighbors is pretty far down the list.
The anti-homosexual fervor has much more to do with the powerlessness of it's advocates than it does any threat from gay people.
Plus it is interesting that the Christian right has, for the most part, attacked homosexuality on every front. What is it, exactly, that they are afraid of? On the list of things to worry about, I'd think a gay couple as neighbors is pretty far down the list.
The anti-homosexual fervor has much more to do with the powerlessness of it's advocates than it does any threat from gay people.
Tenderheart | 4:50 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
While I disagree that calling a same-sex union a "marriage" has
anything to do with civil rights, I still suggest that those who believe it does
might take a hint from Dr. Martin Luther King about non-violence. Please re-read
some of his speeches and upgrade your behavior.
Meanwhile, we have already had the word "gay" stolen so that little children can no longer sing the "Kookaburra" song (among others) and women named Gay are embarrassed in public. Please don't now steal the word "marriage" by trying to make it mean something else.
Yes, it does steal something from the real thing when counterfeits can be called by the same name.
Meanwhile, we have already had the word "gay" stolen so that little children can no longer sing the "Kookaburra" song (among others) and women named Gay are embarrassed in public. Please don't now steal the word "marriage" by trying to make it mean something else.
Yes, it does steal something from the real thing when counterfeits can be called by the same name.
Tyrants are always annoying | 4:49 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
ANNOYING!,
"Not only are you closing major streets down, but the commuter's on these streets are ANNOYED with all of you! (even those who voted no on 8), AND the fact that this is "after-the-fact."
Do you think these voters care about the voters who are trying to get to work but can't because they are exercising their right to assemble. How many people must be inconvenienced so that they can protest the right of the majority to make the law?
"The voice of the people spoke LOUD AND CLEAR in ALL 3 STATES! Give it a rest. Mask's are off and everyone really see's who you are. And it's not pretty. It's ANNOYING! Just like it would be if I were to stand outside the front of the white house with my McCain sign throwing a 3-year old temper tantrum, because Obama is now the president.
A N N O Y I N G!"
You are right. The people chose Obama as President and I voted for him as well. I wouldn't protest him since he is my President but those who support same sex marriage don't understand that the people have spoken. They are tyrants. Nothing more!
"Not only are you closing major streets down, but the commuter's on these streets are ANNOYED with all of you! (even those who voted no on 8), AND the fact that this is "after-the-fact."
Do you think these voters care about the voters who are trying to get to work but can't because they are exercising their right to assemble. How many people must be inconvenienced so that they can protest the right of the majority to make the law?
"The voice of the people spoke LOUD AND CLEAR in ALL 3 STATES! Give it a rest. Mask's are off and everyone really see's who you are. And it's not pretty. It's ANNOYING! Just like it would be if I were to stand outside the front of the white house with my McCain sign throwing a 3-year old temper tantrum, because Obama is now the president.
A N N O Y I N G!"
You are right. The people chose Obama as President and I voted for him as well. I wouldn't protest him since he is my President but those who support same sex marriage don't understand that the people have spoken. They are tyrants. Nothing more!
Expat | 4:51 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
New Yorker
Too bad. Were gonna keep pushing. Your threats don't scare us. We survived Republicans blocking AIDS funding, and we'll survive whatever you people throw at us. You have a choice America, more of the protests or FULL civil rights for Gays. What you WONT get is continued discrimination against Gays and quiet Gays.
While we'd like to have tolerance, civility, acceptance, respect, and our civil rights, if we have to jettison the first four to get our civil rights we will. Besides, we never got any tolerance or civility from the Pro H8 crowd. Voting to destroy someones marriage is hateful. Period. By the way, I'd like to see Gay civil unions laws in Utah before the Mormons say another word about this not being Mormons hating Gays.
Sorry about ruining the word Gay for you. People such as yourself have ruined the word Christian for millions of us. So I guess we're square on that one huh.
You can keep your supposed tolerance, civility, acceptance and respect. We'll take our civil rights.
Too bad. Were gonna keep pushing. Your threats don't scare us. We survived Republicans blocking AIDS funding, and we'll survive whatever you people throw at us. You have a choice America, more of the protests or FULL civil rights for Gays. What you WONT get is continued discrimination against Gays and quiet Gays.
While we'd like to have tolerance, civility, acceptance, respect, and our civil rights, if we have to jettison the first four to get our civil rights we will. Besides, we never got any tolerance or civility from the Pro H8 crowd. Voting to destroy someones marriage is hateful. Period. By the way, I'd like to see Gay civil unions laws in Utah before the Mormons say another word about this not being Mormons hating Gays.
Sorry about ruining the word Gay for you. People such as yourself have ruined the word Christian for millions of us. So I guess we're square on that one huh.
You can keep your supposed tolerance, civility, acceptance and respect. We'll take our civil rights.
Dominique | 4:51 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
For those of us who were actually there, this is a very poorly written report of
what took place. Tell what we talked about. Don't just pull out
sensationalistic quotes from the middle of speeches.
Were you even there?
Were you even there?
How ironic???? | 4:51 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Mormons have tried to have multiple wives for eons and now they've
bankrolled to keep a class of citizens from having even one???? You
coulnd't make this up, really!!
tony | 4:53 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Gays in California have been rebuked by the voters again and again and even have
a Constitutional Amendment banning gay marriage which the gays want to disobey.
That is insurrection and treasonous in itself. Gays that are anarchist must be
shut down. Mormons, Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Catholics.... what, do
liberals hate everyone who Does Not Bow To Your Demands?
Get over it. YOU LOST!!! TWICE!!! Face the facts. Marriage is not a civil right. It is a religious ceremony. If you want to have sex, go ahead.
"GBLT�s are never satisfied. Their civil rights are not being discriminated against. Don't you dare compare yourselves to "African American blacks", "Hispanics", "Native Americans". Those are ethnic groups. You aren't a minority-face it. You can have all the rights with a "civil union". THE MAIN STREAM seems to WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU OR YOUR BEHAVIOR.
YOU CAN PROTEST ALL YOU WANT, YOU CAN PROTEST AT ALL THE CHURCHES, YOU CAN PROTEST AT MORMON CHURCHES ALL OVER THE NATION. I JUST LOVE IT BECAUSE U ARE AM EMBARASSMENT & WILL TURN THE NATION AGAINST YOU!!!!!
Get over it. YOU LOST!!! TWICE!!! Face the facts. Marriage is not a civil right. It is a religious ceremony. If you want to have sex, go ahead.
"GBLT�s are never satisfied. Their civil rights are not being discriminated against. Don't you dare compare yourselves to "African American blacks", "Hispanics", "Native Americans". Those are ethnic groups. You aren't a minority-face it. You can have all the rights with a "civil union". THE MAIN STREAM seems to WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU OR YOUR BEHAVIOR.
YOU CAN PROTEST ALL YOU WANT, YOU CAN PROTEST AT ALL THE CHURCHES, YOU CAN PROTEST AT MORMON CHURCHES ALL OVER THE NATION. I JUST LOVE IT BECAUSE U ARE AM EMBARASSMENT & WILL TURN THE NATION AGAINST YOU!!!!!
I like wine | 4:53 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
What you do in your own bedroom is pretty much a private affair. When YOU bring
it out in public, it becomes public. Gays, lesbians, etc. have to understand
that they are demanding we support and embrace their lifestyles. Homosexuality
is something I object to. I won't abuse a homosexual, but, I will not
support their lifestyle.
Dave | 4:53 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
The GLBT needs to learn the art of "sportsmanship." If Prop 8 would
have passed I guarantee that Mormons would not be vandalizing the GLBT
buildings, protesting in their cities, or sending messages of hate to their
leaders. The state of California has spoken; the majority of them prefer Prop 8.
God bless America.
CO Coug | 4:56 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Somebody's protesting and mad at the Mormon Church? Whatever shall we do?
Yawn.......nothing new, just different topic. Protest all you want, it wont
change anything.
Funny how no other churches were singled out, they only chose the LDS faith because they knew that we wouldn't do anything in retaliation, whereas another church might come out swinging.
Don't stress fellow members, the principles of the Church will not change, nor will the Brethren bow down to threats and intimidation.
Funny how no other churches were singled out, they only chose the LDS faith because they knew that we wouldn't do anything in retaliation, whereas another church might come out swinging.
Don't stress fellow members, the principles of the Church will not change, nor will the Brethren bow down to threats and intimidation.
Stenar | 4:56 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
There were thousands of people protesting today, not just hundreds.
Ho Hum | 4:56 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
The prince of the world cometh, and hath nothing in me. It doesn't matter
if you demonstrate against us. We still love you, and we still believe you are
wrong.
Carlos | 4:57 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
If by 51/49 we can take the right of people away, maybe we can go with Prop 9
and re establish slavery....
Anonymous | 5:00 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
I'm an atheist.I would not ,however, try to dissuade anyone from their
beliefs.
Kudos to the Mormons for backing their beliefs,and not changing them for the cause of the moment,as apposed to a lot of other so called religions .
Kudos to the Mormons for backing their beliefs,and not changing them for the cause of the moment,as apposed to a lot of other so called religions .
Stenar | 5:01 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
America is not a simple democracy. America is a republic. This means the
minority should be protected from the tyranny of the majority.
Give me a break Utah ok? | 5:02 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
All you people have to do, is dress up Mitt Romney in a dress, turn him lose in
the streets there, the handful of the Utah gay community will see him, and, all
die laughing at him, you bury them at the county landfill, problem solved. Why
is it so hard for you to think up these thing's also?. It works. Than push
for Mitt Romney & Sarah Palin for the White House in 2012.
Robert Oh | 5:04 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
Mormons, thank you. You have been the catalyst to help focus our cause to move
forward. You have been the motivation for thousands both Gay and Straight to
find their voices.
As they said today at the rally... "we'll look back with the next generation, years from today and say - you know, I was there in Salt Lake at the time when it started. Salt Lake City, Really, this IS the place!"
Mormons, thank you again.
As they said today at the rally... "we'll look back with the next generation, years from today and say - you know, I was there in Salt Lake at the time when it started. Salt Lake City, Really, this IS the place!"
Mormons, thank you again.
Disgusted | 5:06 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
I agree with Anonymous. Why shouldn't we be able to vote on marriage
between men and women. For all of you who are in straight marriages, just
imagine if one day your marriage was not viewed as legitimate. How would that
make you feel? Of course you would fight back.
Chachi | 5:07 p.m. Nov. 15, 2008
So let's see...this is a political issue, so churches should stay out. Oh,
and it's a moral issue, and about fundamental rights! Pick your argument,
gay rights people.
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